Redskins Training Camp: Haynesworth is Regressing
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 4, 2010 11:37 PM EDT
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PrintSo yesterday was as hectic as I can remember. The Snyder interview being posted, The Days of our Haynesworth drama, and John Madden, Roger Goodell and Wale - all at Redskins Park. Here's a full summary:
Roger Goodell confirmed his office has discussed Dr. Galea with Santana Moss. Moss, when asked about such meeting, politely replied: "That ain't nothing I care to discuss."Long snapper Nick Sundberg had two straight low snaps and Kicker Graham Gano missed both FGs. The LS situation merits watching. [@Rich_Campbell]
Anyone have Ethan Albright's cell number in hand? Back to #92, if we can't talk sense into Albert, can the Commish?
Goodell talked to Haynesworth today. "Haynesworth understands. He wants to get out on that field." [@Smoke_Signals ]
Why would Haynesworth care what Goodell has to say? Dude just received $21 million and is doing the LITERAL bare minimum to keep it. So how did Goodell's talk go with the players? I'm going to go head and predict it now....Haynesworth will never see a regular season snap for the Redskins again. You know what happens to players that are out of shape? They get hurt...REAL FAST.
No matter what Albert said to the fans - have had several people familiar w/situation tell me that the knee is not getting better & will......be a persistant problem without rest or perhaps more. Problem is he's not getting any rest so swelling/irritation still there [@Russellmania09]
Mike Sellers: "Put it like this, when we left that meeting; we were not happy". [@Russellmania09]
Eesh. The NFLPA has already told the players to prepare for a lockout. That's a bad sign, but as John Madden said today, "Let's focus on 2010 football." Speaking of, how's Rex looking?
Three straight deep attempts by Rex Grossman. Three bad misses. Footwork was awful on third effort. All were overthrown. [@HomerMcFanboy]
Awesome! Start bubble-wrapping McNabb now. Heyer actually saw action with the 1st team since Jammal Brown was side-lined (resting) from a hip strain. Ugh...2009 nightmares coming back. Heyer got worked over in case you were wondering. Jammal will be fine though. What about our OL draft picks?
Selvish Capers looked OK in one-on-one. He's got a foundation coaches can work with. [@Rich_Campbell]
I like it! Our 3 year backups can't hold their own, but a 7th round rookie who was once a Tight End can. Sounds like we finally have some brains in the scouting department.
Running backs??
Redskins FB Mike Sellers says Keiland Williams is the RB that has impressed him, saying he is a "brickhouse" [@Russellmania09]
Nice. Keiland is that speedster out of LSU.
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Good things being said about some of the youth on our team, a refreshing and welcome change from years past.
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by rictorcreed on Aug 5, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
WTTF?
my apologies I was saying that the skins are out to win a super bowl. They need AH. So this is not good news at all.
From an Eagles fan
I’m not shocked that AH is acting this way. Rember when he stomped on the head of Andre Gurode? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nlEA8BUTQ
He’s a piece of shit HOWEVER, I can tell you from personal experience that when you watch a guy get unjustly (Mike needs to learn when enough is enough) punshed it makes you sympathy for this person. Under long term you can even learn to dislike the person / people that are putting this person down. What I’m trying to say is Mike Shanahan is not handeling this situation correctly. Like it or not AH is a huge part of the Redskins team anyone who’s team runs a 3-4 will tell you that the NT is where you live and die. The worst thing that could happen to the Redskins is AH getting traded / cut.
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 5, 2010 4:02 AM EDT reply actions
Enough is enough?
Let’s say Shanahan decided to lighten up and not make him pass the conditioning test. How is he supposed to practice on a knee that’s supposedly hurting as much as it is?
the worst thing? I think not
AH just isn’t going to play NT to the best of his ability and this has been well known for quite some time. Trading him wouldn’t be so bad except nobody wants his price tag. Cutting him would be stupid. I don’t know why they didn’t draft a real NT this year but there’s always next year. All this is just another reason why this switch to the 3-4 is likely to be real ugly until we get more 3-4 personnel, especially a true NT.
this whole trend of every damn team switching to “the 3-4” pisses me off. it’s the same damn thing as the 4-3 but you essentially float out a DE to be a hybrid LB/DE. guess what? teams who play 4-3 also have to often float out a DE to maintain coverage. so much ado about such a small change, everybody acting like it matters.
not to mention, any team lining up in a single defense more than 50% of the time just doesn’t happen. why do i feel like the only person in the world calling this out?
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Aug 5, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
God forbid that a pro football player be required to complete a drill in a certain amount of time
It’s not like he’s been given an impossible job. He has just barely missed passing a few times already. And his knee MRI came back negative, which isn’t to say that it doesn’t hurt, but it shows that it’s nothing serious. He needs to pass a very reasonable test. He hasn’t even attempted it in days. I don’t think very many people are feeling sympathetic.
And I’m pretty sick of hearing about how badly we need him. What we NEED is a team composed of players who are willing to work and sacrifice to win. It blows my mind that even after the experience of the last last 10 years, we still talk about Haynesworth as if he’s the ‘missing piece’ on this defense.
Bored and broke.
I knew it was going to be a problem...
And I said it on ES that this long snapper thing could be a huge problem for us…we are replacing a LS vet with a 2nd year player that never long snapped in a real NFL game…it has disaster written all over it. Go ahead and laugh like the LS position is not a important one, but 1 bad snap can easily change the outcome of the game.
I don't know why people keep referring to K Williams as a speedster
he ran a 4.6 at the combine/and or pro day.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Given K Williams number of starts at LSU in 3 years
he was not the primary ball carrier in college. “He played in 47 career games at LSU, with three starts. He rushed for 1,699 yards and 17 touchdowns on 299 carries (5.7 average), and caught 28 passes for 273 yards (9.8 average) and two touchdowns.” Yet his stats did not look that bad when he played. The ankle injury he suffered in November may have slowed him down. Perhaps he has recovered some speed since his pro day. It is another wait and see situation.
“He suffered a broken ankle against Ole Miss on November 14 to bring a premature end to a disappointing season (although he was averaging 5.3 ypc at the time of his injury).Williams is an explosive back who can also excel at returning kicks, but he needs to improve at running between the tackles. He has the size (6’0 and 221 pounds) to be successful in that capacity, but he has been unable to get the job done on a consistent basis (just like he does when he runs around the ends or catches passes out of the backfield). Williams can run in the 4.4s in the 40-yard-dash and his speed and change of direction ability make him a terror in the open field.” http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1748
by Jefferson1935 on Aug 5, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
5.3 ypc is chump change in college, especially with a monster LSU o-line
a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon
by eastcoastatlas on Aug 5, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
What drives you to the prediction about Haynesworth?
The fact of the matter is that NO ONE knows what is going on with AH. If he was going to be traded then it would of been done already. How does anyone know that Shanahan may be taking a week or so to get AH in shape by his standards. AH is still going over technique with Haslett and Burney, as well as learning the defense. He hasn’t said or done one thing wrong since arriving at Redskins Park. They said yesterday that it the TRAINERS decision to keep him out of the test and many people have said that it may be impossible for AH to pass the test because he is such a massive human. But keep watching ESPN and their reports on AH everyday, have you noticed they don’t even have a beat reporter for the Skins or any one in DC? This is a less of an issue in local news and true football reporting.
I'm worried about that knee
not getting any rest
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
The longer this goes on the more the blame is going to go transferred to Shanahan. He’s knee is flared up because he was sprinting 600 yards something that he will never have to do on the field.
AH should be rested until Monday and then be reevaluated. There is no doubt in my mind that he’ll be ready to go Week 1.
I think Kevin has a valid point.....
while I am not necessarily backing the prediction 100%, I certainly see where he is coming from. This is not an unreasonable test to see where he is physically. He is not just “sprinting 600 yards”, it is a shuttle, with a significant break in the middle. Perfectly reasonable for a player who’s major knock (ok one of many) is going for two plays and huffing and puffing his way off the field. The time he was alloted might be a little tight, but if he was in football shape he should have been able to complete it without blowing out his knee. As for as Shanny backlash, if there is any it is unwarranted. Again this was not an unreasonable test and it is not Shanny holding him out at this point, it is the trainer. I believe that he will suit and play and I also believe he will miss games due to injury.
Oh please
The longer this goes on the more the blame is going to go transferred to Shanahan
You wanted discipline, structure and to hold player saccountable for their actions, well now you have yourself a real football coach in Washington. When a player takes it upon himself to train privately/without the rest of the team, he better report to camp in shape. Guys who played for the University of Miami always go back and train there and report to camp in shape ready to go, see ray lewis, ed reed, e. james just to name a few. So when a player ie. AH reports to camp and fails, you better believe he will be singled out.
correction- his knee flared up because he reported to camp out of football shape and his fat ass put too much strain on the knee. mike golic passed the test and he clearly weighs 300+ lbs, is 47 and hadnt played in 17 years. and looking at him, it is clear he is not working out. he paced himself and jogged it, making wide circles for turns. barely made it. AH has either no heart or did not want to pass or is in crappy shape. running a treadmill is not real life either!!!
he doesnt like to practice. that much is obvious from last year. i think you will see him most most if not all of camp and shanahan will draw the line during practices for the regular season. i am not even sure that is not a bad strategy. otherwise, he will be hurt when you need him.
by les boulez bomber on Aug 6, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Haynesworth's knee problem is nothing new.
Shanahan was able to review 2009 team records of his practices missed and the reasons why. I does not seem like Shanahan has problems finding out information.
by Jefferson1935 on Aug 6, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
His knee is getting plenty of rest. He hasn’t even attempted the test in 3 days…
Just got word he's going in for a MRI
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
they have him running on a treadmill
everyday for conditioning. That’s not what I would call rest
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
by Rekka on Aug 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don't think distance has anything to do with it?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I'm basing it on everything the players said this summer
“If he comes in shape, he can cram and learn the playbook”
Haynesworth simply isn’t a part of this Redskins team right now. There’s no way he’ll be ready to play or know his assignments. The first game of the pre-season is this weekend.
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What players? Of course they are going to say that b/c they’ve been there all summer. But AH is at camp and attending meetings he’ll have the playbook down, its not like he’s a QB and he has over a month.
Haynesworth simply isn’t a part of this Redskins team right now.
Really? I’ve seen him in Redskins gear, working with Redskins coaches and observing Redskins practice. No matter what Henson says….
Henson hasn't said one word to us about this...
I brought it up with Vonnie Holliday at the NFLPA headquarters. He said he’d have to cram…a lot. All summer long London Fletcher, Cooley, Daniels, all the leaders said things would be fine if he showed up in shape. Clearly not the case…I got reemed for saying (before O’Halloran) Kelly might not make this team…it’s not that hard to imagine a situation where Haynesworth’s knee keeps him off the field.
I have seen nothing from coaches or the players that suggest Albert is progressing on or off the field.
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I’m just saying I haven’t heard much about AH from anyone players or coaches, he’s not being discussed except on ESPNs manufactured news show aka SportsCenter
The players are being quiet as to not add more drama
If Daniels or Fletcher comes out and says everything is fine, then my prediction (which is solely just that) would be off….but I just can’t see them defending Haynesworth right now as if he’s close to being ready. If it wasn’t a problem, they would say so.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
haha when have we ever worried about a botch snap or an overthrown ball by the back up in training camp, isnt that why they have camp?
+1
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
totally agree
I hated it when they banned Twitter last year, but now wish they would ban it again. Reading reports is much easier.
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Man...who kicked your dog?
Seriosuly…yesterday was a bad practice. Of all the updates, good or bad, these were the ones worth noting. Beat writers twitter accounts are the best way to get info…and I have to credit them.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering that every morning when you wake up and spew negativity. Did you hear the COMMISIONER OF THE NFL was at camp yesterday or that Snyder is talking about building an indoor practice facility yesterday or the vets got the day off.
I appreciate what you do and the time you put in here but the reason I come to HH is to basically gather all my Skins news at one place, that used to happen here with the Daily Slop, it had a lot of news and had some funny things also. I think Japers Rink does a great job of this every morning.
fair enough
I was on holiday most of last week and i have gotten no sleep with the Dexter and Snyder interviews this week..the Slop will be returning tomorrow now that things have calmed down…I mean, we’ve really been fighting our guts out.
Having been a season ticket holder most of this decade, pessimism comes w/ the territory, but I no doubt know this team can compete – and I take a hard stance when outsiders try to bash what we’re building. I keep my concerns within the Hogs Haven family.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Kevin!
We need to get you some Kool-Aid… Stat!
or some Snyder-aid...loads of that going around.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 5, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
this is not the droid you are looking for......
just loosen the screws in the AC vent in the restroom by the bar, I’ll be there….now what did I do with those damn blueprints??!!
by MagicHat on Aug 5, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 5, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had way too much Kool-Aid to stomach all of this negativity
Still haven’t heard anything about Dennis Morris? Is he even in camp?
by CarverM on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i have that post coming out later today
To answer your question…he was blocking from the H-Back spot in limited plays.
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Can’t comment on that but Graham Gano did miss the toilet when peeing this morning at camp and everything else has gone completely awful.
haha bad hold…
Gano Impressing
Kicker Graham Gano had another good morning. According to his Twitter page, Gano went 10-of-11 Wednesday and is 31-of-33 in training camp.
Danny Smith said Gano isn’t like a rookie because he kicked the final four games for the Redskins last year and was a part of their offseason program.
"I think he’s going to be a good player," Smith said. "I know him a little bit in game situations. He’s a great, young prospect."
On special teams, Smith has an assistant for the first time in his NFL career. Richard Hightower spent the previous three years in Houston.
"Richard is a big help; he’s an excellent assistant," Smith said. "He has great knowledge of the game. It’s another set of eyes, somebody to bounce things off of. It was me and three chairs making the decision. I’m teaching what we do and how we do it, and he’s picking it up."
Really? Gano has only missed two kicks at camp and thats what is reported here? Couldn’t mention he has made his 31 other kicks?
If I read the same article this came from
I think they were trying to point out how much Sundberg(sp?) sucked
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Someone should really tell Capers
that the “invisible box” is a rookie hazing thing, and he can come out now.
We need more toilet paper, I'm taking my talents to South Beach.
by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 5, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Does Haynesworth even like football?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
Shocking that when you give guys $10M's, most tend to lose their motivation
Good work Danny.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Can we play a caption game with the Selvish Capers picture?
‘Capers practices the THRILLER dance in anticapation of beating the Lions’
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I guess
all the “Haynesworth will be fine” threads will now turn into “I blame Shanahan for all of this”
Many of the photos are of
Albert Haynesworth in action. In one he is driving a sled. The biggest problem with Haynesworth is that he is not interacting with his teammates on the practice field, i.e., going through plays.
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