Redskins Park Updates: Malcolm Kelly to IR; Portis in Full Practices
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
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PrintI'll update this thread with the official cuts, which should be around 4pm. We can make this an open thread for all the action today.
- John Keim has reported Lendy Holmes has been cut. Also cut are Edwin Williams, Hall Davis, and LS James Dearth
- Malcolm Kelly to the IR (Shanahan likes his work ethic). This means the Redskins only have to cut 4 players today.
- Portis had a full practice today but will not play versus AZ
- Rex will start against Cardinals (for a very short time)
- Selvish Capers with 3rd team as Left Guard
- Ryan Torain will start against Cardinals
- Willie Parker did not practice Monday, but will play versus Cards
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Via Rich Campbell..
Shanahan: Not putting Kelly on the Active/PUP list before training camp is a regret. He let Kelly practice b/c MK said he could.
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is it a regret because had he put him on PUP he could have played him when he got better?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
It's a regret...
If he put him on PUP b4 training camp…MK would have sat all camp…then we would have activated him. Since he then got hurt, we could put him on reserve PUP which means he has 6 weeks to heal then we can decide to activate or cut…like what the Pats did w/ Wes Welker.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
so, since we didn't put him on reserve PUP
we essentially give him a year to heal and decide whether to keep or cut, as opposed to only giving him 6 weeks?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
If he can't heal in a year..
.. he is done, and not just as a Redskin.
Recovering wide receiver Wes Welker was placed on the active/physically unable to perform list by the Patriots on Tuesday.
Welker, whose recovery from February surgery to repair a torn left ACL has been on schedule, can come off the list at any time.
Yep
That was the active/PUP list. It looks like he is good to go for my fantasy team the regular season though.
Also...
I’m doing a phone interview with Terrence Austin this afternoon…if you have any questions you want me to ask…comment below this.
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Question
How do you or the coaches envision your role in the offense?
by worldwidewes on Aug 31, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has he been
bulking up more to handle a possibly increased role in the passing game?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Questions:
Does he feel like he has had ample opportunities thus far to showcase his skills? Can we expect to see a bit more of him in the Cardinals game?
I honestly don’t remember too many standout moments for him from the previous 3 games. I wish the WR’s who have a reserved roster spot would sit this one out so we can see more of the guys fighting to make the final cut.
I honestly don’t remember too many standout moments for him from the previous 3 games.
Are you sure you were watching the games?
yea
he actually made more noise as a receiver than a return man if I recall correctly
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
yea...he showed some YAC skills on a couple plays.
I def plan on asking why he never took a single PR or KR to the house in college…he had almost 200 total touches in ST.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
He is slow and not explosive
Pretty Simple. I guess he hasn’t shown much ability to get deep as a WR in camp/practice either. He’s basically a poor mans Randle El. Still kinda like him though he’s shifty and a decent route runner. Like Banks better though.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 31, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup..
I’ve just been blinded by Anthony Armstrong. He’s been there on almost every special teams tackle and he’s been sure-handed as a WR. I’m not saying Austin hasn’t made some plays, but he just hasn’t made the same impression on me.
Did he have a couple of nice catches in the Jets game down the seam from Beck? Or am I thinking of someone else? Clearly my man-crush for Armstrong has affected my vision.
Talk about drinking the Kool Aid
I’ve just been blinded by Anthony Armstrong
I’m right there with you, I drafted Armstrong (albeit with my last pick) in my fantasy league
Time will tell my friend
You and my mom battled it out for last place last year, so you’ve got nowhere to go but up..
Changed my whole strategy
my roster last year was basically Washington Redskins Fantasy version.
Admit it, you have roster envy.
Mine
Aaron Rodgers
Vince Young
Ryan Grant
CJ Spiller
Clinton Portis
Ronnie Brown
Roddy White
Eddie Royal
Michael Crabtree
Bernard Berrian
Jermichael Finley
Jermaine Gresham
Dan Carpenter
Green Bay Packers D/ST
Cincinnati Bengals D/ST
That seems right for a 12 team league
QB in the first round, Grant in the 2nd. WRs are pretty weak.
portis & brown are falling like crazy in all drafts (rightfully so)
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Isn't that the most common type of league?
QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Sure, but the two types of leagues are by far the two most common
I judge your commish to be not-weird.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
haha CarverM can back me up
He’s a strange commissioner, but I will retract holding the lack of flex slot against him. He is one of our best friends, we accept him..
Mine
Matt Ryan
Kevin Kolb
Randy Moss
Greg Jennings
Mike Williams
DeAngelo Williams
Jahvid Best
Arian Foster
Montario Hardesty
Owen Daniels
Pierre Garcon
Legedu Naanee
Anthony Armstrong
Robbie Gould K
Patriots D/ST
Good team. Balanced. I think Ryan and/or Kolb we be good fantasy QBs this year
WRs are strong. Jahvid Best could be a good RB2
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I got Matt Ryan and Kevin Kolb in the 9th and 10th rounds
respectively. Went really late on TE, Kicker, and D/ST too. I have a feeling Arian Foster is going to blow up, as is Mike Williams
If Torrain has a good showing against the Cards
what are the chances that one of the two other backs (Johnson and Parker) are gone?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Agreed
Parker just doesn’t have it anymore
by worldwidewes on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You think we keep Keiland
on PS, or just let him go. I really would like him to get on the 53 but I don’t see Shanny going into the season with Portis and 2 new guys.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I think he's been the second best RB so far this preseason
I think we keep 4 RB’s anyways. I think it will be CP, LJ and Williams.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Keiland makes the team I'm predicting.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Really hope we don't drop him
He’s no Portis, but he found extra yards on some plays where Parker would likely just get stuffed. I imagine the final RB roster will be Portis, LJ, and Torain, with Williams on PS.
I think Keiland is a keeper
He can play tailback and fullback (a la Mike Anderson). I think the coaching staff is high on him.
I don't think so.
I think you keep him for now and use him for trade bait. There are a couple teams out there that are getting pretty thin at RB (Denver, Houston) and might be willing to part with a conditional late round pick for someone like Parker who would take minimal work to get working on the field. Put Williams on the practice squad for now, go into the Dallas game Portis and Johnson/Torain, don’t even activate Parker on the gameday list, and give it a week or two and see if something comes up.
Trade bait?
Seriously? Why pay him a roster bonus just to keep him around in case someone else wants him? Who would give up a pick when they could easily go find a 6th or 7th round talent on a practice squad somewhere?
by TerroristFistJab on Aug 31, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is way more likely Williams gets plucked from PS
than Parker gets traded for anything.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 31, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed...
the NFL isn’t like most other sports – veteran contracts (those without significant bonuses in a salary-capped season, that is) are so easy to flush that it is silly to entertain keeping a player on the 54 man (which we stretched to the limit last year, remember?) unless you see him providing value on your team. Parker was signed to provide depth through the pre-season. He has done that much. Now he needs to pack his bags and hit the FA trail.
by TerroristFistJab on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Marko Mitchell just got cut my Minn
can we get a bring back MM to replace MK motion going?
Minnesota most of not thought much of Mitchell, especially given their WR situation or he could be a casualty of Farve being a diva and bringing in walker.
it's sad how one man can have a team by the balls like he does
if they really liked MM though, they could have found a way to keep him.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Yeah...
sure glad we don’t have a gu… Oh. Nevermind.
/stillhatesFavre
by TerroristFistJab on Aug 31, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much a wrap for him
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
not at all surprising given the depth at Safety..da
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was surprised no one had him this morning, no joke
I know a couple of people including myself said that last week.
are we waiting on one more?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
yes
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Via @Russellmania09
Hearing the #Redskins coaching staff really likes CB Ramzee Robinson and he is in a battle with Byron Westbrook for that final CB Spot.
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That mean Tryon isn't in their plans?
DH, CR, PB, and KB seem to be locks.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 31, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Last cut!
via washington redskins blog
Hall davis last cut tuesday :] arrived yesterday and released that quick
by BurgundyNGoldKillinIT on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
ahh
sorry!yeah i was a little suprised by it but i guess shanahan dint see that much potential for him.
i really hope they keep 6 WR
1.Moss
2.Thomas
3.Armstrong
4.Williams
5.Banks primarily for KR’s
6Austin,i see potential in the guy and coming out of ucla as the all time yards record holder isnt for nothing,guy can defintly put in work and catch in traffic which is a plus!
by BurgundyNGoldKillinIT on Aug 31, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Why?
I’m guessing you’ve never seen him play and know absolutely nothing about him, like the rest of us. I’ll take the draft pick..
But...
But didn’t we give a draft pick for Davis? I know we got a draft pick for Morris… Won’t they just cancel each other out if they end up being in the same round?
We traded a conditional pick/Morris for a conditional pick/Davis
I don’t get your “But”, if they do cancel each other out then who cares? Why does it matter if its pick for pick, or morris for davis, or morris for pick?
Does anyone know what the terms of the conditional picks are?
I feel like we shouldn’t give the rams a pick at all, especially considering he was on our team for maybe 12 hours.
"You're fucking out!"
Perhaps we won't have to give them a pick
maybe the “condition” was based on whether or not he makes our roster.
That’s what I was expecting, I guess we shouldn’t get our hopes up on getting anything for Morris either.
Chalk that one up as a loss
"You're fucking out!"
What about the practice squad as a condition? Contracts are given before the draft. From Shanahan's
perspective something near half of the draft picks making it is a success.
by Jefferson1935 on Aug 31, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Capers
seems to be getting tried out at every position except the one he excelled at in college (RT). They must be pretty confident in Heyer as a backup RT.
I was thinking the same thing, don’t understand why he wouldn’t be at least given a shot at RT though. It seems to me that with the injury questions of Brown and Heyer’s performances the past couple seasons they would at least see what they had in him at his college position…
But then again, what the hell do I know.
"You're fucking out!"
Damn
I had Hall Davis as the starting OLB too….
Cuts
So the first five departures (from those on board last week) were Dearth, Holmes,
E Williams, Morris and Kelly. But 22 cuts left to go.
Hard not to think that this latest hamstring injury could've been somewhat induced.
“Hey Malcolm, run a few routes. You’re hamstring feel more sore, ya, you’re right, we’d better put you on the IR to make this decision a lot easier”
Several reportes have eluded to something musterious about the injury
Not sure if that means they are exagerating it or if that means he’s been more seriously hurt than we know.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 31, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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