Snide Debate: What To Do With Malcolm Kelly? IR or Cut?
Washington Examiner columnist Rick Snider's first Redskins story was in 1983 and his work can be found at theWashingtonExaminer.com and TheRickSniderReport.com.
Assuming Kelly's hamstring set back his him out for an extended time...what do you do with him? IR or Cut?
Rick Snider: I'd put Kelly on IR. What do you have to lose? You've already paid the money and keep his rights. Who knows, he may still prove something. Give it one more year.
Well, the Redskins put Colt Brennan (another Zornerrato pick) on IR after a minor injury and that didn't work out. I just don't see the point on putting him on IR. Even when healthy last year, Kelly did nothing to impress. He lost his starting job to Devin Thomas and even towards the end of the season, when 2009 was lost and Kelly saw ample time, he still failed to excel. Any WR who you're waiting to break out should have at least shown flashes. Maybe that WR hasn't put it all together consistently, but they've made a play. Kelly has failed to do that ONCE. There was the play in San Diego last year but he got caught from behind in what reminded me of a little league player running sideways looking back over both shoulders. I might be biased since he's a Cerrato pick, but it's time to move on.
Rick Snider: The Redskins have no decent young receivers so keeping Kelly around one more year won't hurt because tall receivers with good hands are scarce. He was showing signs of improvement last year so maybe one more season will grow him into a keeper. If Kelly's hurt against next summer (or whenever the NFL resumes) or is a dud then cut him then. But the worst thing would be for Kelly to blossom elsewhere. That's the last thing the Redskins need.
You must be Vinny Cerrato's new racquetball buddy I've been hearing so much about. I'm not totally opposed to keeping Kelly, it's just that he had major injuries coming out of college. You come across as the kid that put his hand on the hot stove multiple times. As you said, the Redskins don't have much youth or speed...given Kelly's current health and speed (wen 100%)...he has neither anyway. Why pay him through the season and next for at best an average WR?
Rick Snider: Since Kelly's hurt you're already looking at an injury settlement until healthy, which is probably at least 4 weeks so go ahead and buy the remaining 12 to keep him off the market. This is a pure insurance move. It keeps Kelly away from competitors and buys one more look. You're not paying Kelly for 2011 because he can be cut then. Not to defend Vinny, but Kelly was a worthwhile second-round pick. The mistake was the Redskins already took Devin Thomas so they should have looked for another position instead of Kelly.
It was reported all the Redskins scouts said not to draft Kelly because of his knee problems, but Cerrato did it anyway. Not sure how that warrants a worthwhile 2nd round pick.
Rick Snider: They were blinded by his potential - a big receiver with great hands that could own the red zone. In theory, it wasn't a bad idea, but the wrong guy. The Redskins often ignored warning signs like injuries and off-field problems with past draft pick and free agent signings and it regularly burned them. But back to Kelly, you're already in for a penny so go for the whole dollar and put him on IR.
I guess this falls into one of those categories: "I could care less what they do with him." The thing is, even when he was healthy this week, he stated he learned how to run where it wouldn't hurt. Does that sound like a WR that can heal quickly?
Putting him on IR makes sense, but this is one of those movies where the ending is predictable. Perhaps he can get healthy enough next year to warrant a late 2012 draft pick. It had to be disappointing for a WR with a minor injury to go on the shelf for the whole season. Perhaps he would be opposed to it...we'll find out soon enough.
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Smart thing to do is to put him on IR
But that doesn’t mean I want to see him on the Redskins roster in 2011. A team needs players it can rely on, I don’t see how any sane fan or a member of the Redskins front office can say Kelly is reliable. All I hear about is his potential, in 2 1/2 years we have seen what? One play? Three plays at most?
It’s not a gamble to put him on IR and hope for some kind of miracle to happen in 2011, but it’s not much of a risk to cut him now, because I doubt any team in the league would pick him up.
so the short story is, yeah, who cares?
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
Put him on IR
Givien the skins luck if we do gut him he will get healthy and become dominant. I think we should put him on IR just to keep him off the market. If hes a dud then yeah give him his walking papers next year. The best thing I think that can happen for us is that he gets healthy enough and we trade him for a late 2012 draft pick next year.
I say we keep him and cut marko mitchell!
oh wait that already happened… that move makes very little sense to me, why not let him compete, he did pretty well competing in last years amature hour preseason…
Consider who was passing to him...
I vote IR. I’m taking into consideration that not many WRs got much of a shot to show anything with last year’s offensive line and QB. Too often the WRs didn’t even get a chance to run their routes before Cambell was on the ground. I’d like to see what the WRs can do with a better QB and a better OL.
I voted IR...
but I am seriously waffling on that, we can’t be concerned about what he “might” do for another team, Worst case scenario, he gets healthy, wins a starting spot for next year, and gets injured in game 2, then we are royally screwed, too injury prone, too inconsistent….time to let him go.
I can not wait until this needle dick nigger Kevin stops breathing. What a whinney punk bitch!
by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 31, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What a fucking glorious day that will be!
by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 31, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
This loser's a TROLL
Ban him. Douchebag.
by worldwidewes on Aug 31, 2010 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
when have i ever whined once?
All you do is complain…if anyone is the chick it’s you.
Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess God heard LJP left
And decided to give us the gift of another, “wonderful” user.
I miss LJP and his crazy conspiracy theories.
by BigOLinemen on Aug 31, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I like to joke him though
LJP was hardly an attacking troll either.
by BigOLinemen on Aug 31, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
why even engage Kevin?
I generally don’t mind the comments. (although the first sentence of that bothers me a bit for two reasons) often I find them entertaining, “cumdumpster” cracked me up and I have been waiting an opportunity to use it in real life, I try my best to be polite here. No need to defend yourself here, I would imagine you have the support of the vast majority of the people on this board….I think we know who the “punk bitch” in this conversation is.
Is this guy serious?
Fairly new on here so I don’t know if this person is a sarcastic individual or what. I’ve read some of his comments and I’m not quite sure how he hasn’t been banned yet. Especially when you drop the “N” bomb.
he's been banned multiple times for the N word...
he knows the trick to circumvent the ban w/ new accounts.
Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 31, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep up the good work Kevin
I vote we just ignore him, he doesn’t need to be here if he doesn’t like the writing, or apparently just holds a grudge against the author. This is the only place I come for Skins news and it keeps me well informed. So ignore him man, don’t even dignify him with a response.
Wow, talk about a guy who needs to get a life
Don’t like what you read here? Then fuck off, it’s pretty simple. Thanks for all the hard work you put in Kevin. The real readers appreciate it even if the trolls don’t.
Kevin ban this idiot
& keep banning him every time he pops up with a different s/n. There is no way that you should be taking this kind of shit. You guys do a great job on this site & you should demand the respect that comes with it.
Great....
Now I will have that scene from Waterboy where he imagines the QB giving the cadence as “NEEDLEDICK NEEDLEDICK NEEDLEDICK” stuck in my head all day… good work….
what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
cut mk
hes had enough time and has done nothing, cant stay healthy, can get on the field, time to go
The only debate here
Is whether or not he will have any value in the future as a potential trade. If so, than IR is the answer, but I can’t see too many teams lining up to trade a draft pick for someone who has his injury history and no meaningful game time in what, 3 years? to measure his potential. He may wind up in a camp next year, but with a WR’s with equal talent coming from college, why would any team take a risk with his baggage, even for a 7th round pick.
what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You've invested in him
Let’s not make a hasty move like Cincinnati made the other day. You really have nothing to lose by placing him on IR.
by worldwidewes on Aug 31, 2010 1:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cut
I definitely wanted him to be the next Andre Johnson but the fact that he cant stay, I mean get, on the field is so frustrating. IMO he’s had enough time to prove his worth and he’s failed. Pulled hammy’s were a constant problem with this team, but I havent heard of one other player with a hammy problem so far this season with the new strength and conditioning staff here.
Cut Him
he’ll never stay healthy enough to realize whatever potential the coaches see in him. at best, he’ll be a talented but completely unreliable receiver
Does it even matter?
MK will not produce on the field for us because he is constantly injury plagued. I don’t really care what we do with him: IR or cut.
Has he ever been healthy?
It seems like Kelly has always been injured, even when he was drafted. I wondered if the lackadaisical Zorn era contributed to his poor conditioning. It’s a shame the guy got injured at McNabb’s hell week. Being on IR this year will be the best chance he has to get healthy and stay there. If we really have nothing to gain or lose between IR and cutting him, IR is probably the best move. I’m just glad he won’t be in the discussions regarding the 53 man roster. If a player like Armstrong was ousted in favor of MK, I would have been pissed.
yeah I don't really care either
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
The problem with some skins fans ...
… is the deperation people feel for Thomas and MK to magically get better. More people need the attitude that they better shine or the don’t deserve to play for the skins. Do we need them to step up? Yes, we obviously need help at the WR spot, but they should be fighting to make the team, not the team/fans fighting for them to do their best job. CUT MK, Shanahan said himself the worst thing people do is hold on to guys because they drafted them.
It's been confirmed
He’s going on the IR
by worldwidewes on Aug 31, 2010 1:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Everyone knew he had to redshirt his rookie year
Vinnie just didn’t have the balls to draft him and sit him. He was healthy last year. Next year we need WR’s again anyways. We already paid him money for this year might as well put him on IR and see if he can compete next year. What does it hurt?
Kellie
never hurt in college now in the pros, hurt all the time. get rid of dead weight.

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