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Sal Paolantonio: McNabb Wanted to go to Minnesota All Along

Well, this is news I didn't want to hear, but makes sense. Sal Paolantonio, who is at Lehigh for the Eagles training camp, had this to say upon the Favre retirement news, which was passed on to me by SBN Eagles blogger:

McNabb wanted to go to Minnesota all along and I think that he won't sign a new deal in Washington so he can go to Vikings as a free agent next year.

Eh, we'll see. To me, this is like when you start dating a girl and then the hot chick that you've loved suddenly becomes single. I'm sure McNabb under his breath is saying, "Damn...that really sucks for me," but at the same time, he's been building relationships and a team here. It's clear players genuinely love Shanahan and the way things are run here. Time will tell...never a dull moment in the NFL. If McNabb doesn't get a deal done after Peyton Manning and Tom Brady's deals are done, then we'll know what his intentions are.

One thing is certain: If McNabb is a one and done and the Redskins lost 2 draft picks and a starting QB out of this gamble, it's going to be another long decade.

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Damn…

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 3, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I've checked all over ESPN...

And I can’t find any mention of this anywhere. Its not anywhere on the NFL section nor is it mentioned any where in the NFC East blog. Matt Mosely is such a cowgirl homer you know he couldn’t resist stirring the pot with information like this. I don’t think there is any truth to this at all, and I think if we hav a positive season with a team that has the look of building in a positive direction, Mcnabb will sign an extension. If this team ends up being worse than last season, which would mean we were not headed in the right direction, then it’s probably a safe bet Mcnabb would leave anyway. If I was a free agent and the team I was just traded to sucked and my contract was up, theres proably not a snowball’s chance in hell of me resigning there. I imagine this risk/reward scenario was weighed heavily by Shanny & co and they must have believed they have assemble enough pieces to atleast field a competitive team this year, or else why make this trade? If the team doesn’t lock Mcnabb up before this season plays itself out, our hopes of Mcnabb continuing to be our QB into the future hinges largely on the sucess of the o-line to protect him, and the defenses ability to protect a lead if given the chance. If not, we are screwed next year.

by CuseSkinsfan1 on Aug 3, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin not trying to be an ass but do you ever think this kind of post is kind of irresponsible. I watached the same report from SalPal and he said nothing about his opinion of mcnabb not signing after this year and going to the vikes. All he said was that McNabb would of like to have gone to Minnesota this past offseason b/c his old coach is there, which is pretty damn obvious. Wouldn’t you rather go to a Super Bowl contender rather than a 4-12 rebuilding squad?

by Parks Smith on Aug 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's out there

Might as well discuss it even if it is just to shoot it down if given my opinion.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t put much stock into this, ESPN reporting has become a joke. There is absolutely no accountability for bad reporting any more, everyone on ESPN just makes up rumors, look at the whole Lebron situation. They’ll probably hire Florio soon.

by Parks Smith on Aug 3, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Aug 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Furthermore

Why didn’t this philly moron report this in March when McNabb was traded instead of waiting until now. ESPN just thrives on stirring shit up.

If I see another reporter do the Fat Al windsprint test then I’m going to thrown up, I haven’t seen one reporter do it with adding 200 lbs to what they weigh already.

by Parks Smith on Aug 3, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

golic apparently came close. he weighs 300+ lbs and is 47

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not near 300 lbs according to his nutrisystem commericials that are on all the time

ESPN may have given Golic a bit of a break: He actually looked like he took a head start on the first run, and it was inconclusive whether he crossed the finish line in time. But Golic did pass according to the stopwatch being held by his radio co-host Mike Greenberg, and afterward he said he was unimpressed with Albert Haynesworth’s inability to pass the same test.

by Parks Smith on Aug 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to ESPN

He weighs 270 lbs. But he’s still 47 years old and hadn’t been working out all offseason (as Haynesworth was supposed to be doing). I’m annoyed at the whole conditioning test debacle at this point, but Haynesworth still should be able to pass it.

by bigrm18 on Aug 3, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

FRANCHISE TAG AND TRADE !!!

or trade him right now if he really want to go to Minnesota…we can probably get a 1st and 2nd for him right now…

by ATLredskin on Aug 3, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be totally retarded. You’d basically be throwing a season away and at the same time you wouldn’t be grooming a replacement. I don’t care what you get for McNabb right now but it would be a football and PR nightmare to trade him right now.

You could just franchise him next year and see where it goes, I’m sure Minn will have a QB by then, o wait they already have one that they have been grooming, Tavaris Jackson.

by Parks Smith on Aug 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is what I am talking about...

franchise him next season, but if he wants to go then i would pick up a much needed extra 1st round pick right now…

by ATLredskin on Aug 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christian Ponder, Jake Locker or Ryan Mallet.

by tuckwell on Aug 3, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of those three I’d take Mallet. With Ponder my second choice.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 3, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being an FSU fan

and thus your mortal enemy (lol kidding) I like Ponder best, but Mallet would be a great prospect. I’m not sold on Locker. I posted a look at all these guys in another fanpost a couple weeks back. Mallet could be Carson Palmer, or even possibly Dan Marino, IF you can protect him. He doesn’t make good reads under pressure and his accuracy suffers tremendously, so a strong o-line is a must for a guy like that. He has a higher possible ceiling than Ponder, but it’s nowhere near certain that he reaches his full potential. Ponder gives any team a shot to win any game, and while I think he’ll be freezing his ass off as the starting QB in Buffalo next year, he’d be a better choice to come in and start immediately.

This is all assuming we can’t get McNabb on a multi-year deal, franchise him and piss him off, then trade him elsewhere for a package of draft picks and possibly even players, then package some of those to move up and get a second pick in the first round to get both the RB and QB we need.

Actually, when you look at it like that, it might not be such a bad deal.

by tuckwell on Aug 4, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming there will be a Franchise Tag in the new CBA

I don’t think it will be necessary to use it. If he performs well this year he will be another year older at contract time and won’t get much more from anyone else. If the team is doing well, he stays here rather than go to another “rebuilder.”

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

tavaris jackson is worse than jason campbell. he is not their answer but i am sure there will be someone they sign next year

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

was just at daily norseman

they don’t have too much love for TJack either

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

With No CBA, there is no guarantee that Franchise Tags will exist next year...

We have no idea what the new Collective Bargaining Agreement will look like in the upcoming years. We have no idea for sure that there will be Franchise Tags as there are under the current CBA. If they will exist, we have no idea what sorts of rights or cost that will be to the team.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What. The. …….

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 3, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll take it with a grain of salt

but if it’s true, then daaaaaaamn

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 3, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Just because it was his first choice,

and you can’t blame him for wanting to go to a ready-made SB contender, doesn’t mean he hasn’t warmed up to his current situation. More Kool-aide, please!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

i’ll still be happy with mcnabb this year over the alternatives. next year will be interesting to say the least. a lot can happen in an nfl year but this is potentially another reason why snyder’s big free agent signings/trades backfire more often vs drafting and grooming talent from within.

by fat pete on Aug 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Where’d you find this Kevin?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 3, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason Brewer sent that nugget along in a mass SBN email chain re: Favre

he heard Sal Pal say it…and Sal Pal has been repeating it on the radio.

(note to others: Jason is the main editor of the Eagles SBN blog and is at Eagles camp now)

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 3, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would he even have considered Washington an option?

Everyone was floored when the trade went through within the division.
The likelihood of a divisional trade and having to play against his old team twice a year (once in front of their fans) would make the Vikings an obvious choice as #1.
The leadership role he’s already taken on, the young receivers’ eagerness to join Hell Week, and a smart coach with a plan to win are great reasons for McNabb to be happy and stay here.
Also, who is Sal Paolantonio? Absolutely zero cred.

by SSBlitz on Aug 3, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

It wasn't a secret

Minnesota was high on his choice list..Understandable
He did also have Washington on his list…I really believe that he is a Committed Redskin and that he intends to finish his career as a Redskin. I also think that he wouldnt hesitate to sign a contract with the Skins. He knows that this is a Career Opportunity and that there is untapped Talent on this TEAM . Go Skins

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is minnesota such a huge selling point. this is the exact same spot the jets were in with favre. one and done then to minnesota

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Aug 3, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selling point for QB's

Great defense anchored by two stud DT’s and Antoine Winfield at CB, and Adrian Petersen to hand the ball to on offense behind a very good OL.

I think McNabb is on board here, but over the past couple of years if you were an aging QB wanting one final shot at Super Bowl glory, Minnesota was the place to be.

by d_c_guy on Aug 4, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should have signed him long before favre retired. they should have locked him up once they got him. why trade for the guy and give up important picks if you want to wait and see..dum de dum dum

still, i am not overly concerned. that is a season away. id even be a little surprised if minn stood pat and went with what they have for the full season. its not easy to get to where they are right now. and that window does not last!

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, it’s not like “Brett Favre retirement” was written in on anybody’s calendar for August 3rd.

Negotiations take time.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 3, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

jimmy- we signed him in feb- lol he should have been locked up before the draft in april…you know, in case you cant sign him you can use that fourth pick on a franchise qb

they rolled the dice

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should have been locked up before the draft in april

Agents aren’t stupid. What’s in it for McNabb to sign a deal in April? Tom Brady is a free agent after this year. So is Peyton Manning. Those 2 QB’s are going to eventually going to sign enormous mega deals with their teams, I would think. Wouldn’t it be in McNabb’s best interest to wait and see what those guys get? Obviously, he won’t be paid like Manning or Brady, but it sets a bar. There are 2 sides to negotiations. It’s not as simple as saying “They should have signed him in April.”

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 3, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

McNabb’s waiting for the Manning and Brady deals to get done.

by SSBlitz on Aug 3, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He actually couldn’t sign an extension until June anyway because his contract was restructured last year

by Tromni on Aug 3, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that is good to know. based on reading about his practice throws, he should sign asap- lol! its a long season, i know

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you. he had reasons not to sign. but he also had reasons to sign including locking himself up while the iron is hottest and before the new cba kicks in. the cba is huge. look how it has affected basketball. and there is a real serious possibility of no season next year. the nfl gets tv revenues regardless, and they WILL use that to force the players hand. so then he could be signing a contract in 2012, when he is 35, not 33 with the risk that our line stinks and he put in a crappy season. at 33, he can sign a nice, front loaded 5 year contract. at 35…? it is a legitimate risk. i challenge you not to discount it. the owners are saying lockout. the union says it will cave when you read between the lines.

imho, both sides made a mistake not to get it signed.

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

A better attempt to what I was trying to say above. Nice work.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Redskins can pay him more than The Vikings can, plus Mike Shanahan >>>> Childress!!

by ImFROMdc88 on Aug 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

lol- overpaying has been such a great strategy for us

its a long way until next offseason. he seems to like it here. lets hope we rebuilt the line and he does not spend the season on his arse or injured

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

The Redskins problems over the years have come from overpaying for players and NOT getting results in return for the money they pay them. If you over pay for Mcnabb alittle, but he performs at an elite level than everything is fine.

by ImFROMdc88 on Aug 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not surprising

When you consider the talent of Minnesota’s team, especially compared to our team a few months ago. But I’ve heard McNabb say that he wants to stay here for more than one year on different occasions, so I’ll take this with a grain of salt. But I’ll also remember this report just in case…

by bigrm18 on Aug 3, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

question ?

i know this is off topic but has anyone heard anything about Jammal Brown ? Is he working with the 1st team ? If so how is he holding up ? sorry just seems Redskins.com takes forever to post updates from camp , and not much coverage going on here either , Thanks

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Aug 3, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

cool

thanks Kevin

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Aug 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

When they are showing video clips on TV

look for #69 Jammal Brown on the right side, usually next to Hicks. Other OL to look for are 61 Rabach, Casey; 58 Cook, Erik; 63 Montgomery, Will; 50 Williams, Edwin; 66 Dockery, Derrick; 78 Lichtensteiger, Kory; 75 Hicks, Artis; 77 Rinehart, Chad; 60 Capers, Selvish; 74 Heyer, Stephon; 68 Oldenburg, Clint; 73 Robinson, William; and 72 Williams, Trent.

by Jefferson1935 on Aug 3, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I live in Harrisonburg and all the news here wants to talk about is Haynesworth , over and over and over , I’m talking every damn nite , opening lines from the sportscaster , more drama on Haynesworth at skins training camp , If I were standing close to him I would slap him in the face with a piece of bolagna , and trust me , that shit hurts, hahahahaha !

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Aug 3, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

not me

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Aug 3, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did say

SLICE of bologna, didn’t you?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure did

had a guy at work throw a french fry at me with chili on it , and I told him that if another one came my way that he was going to get bolagna slapped , he said whats that? I replied that he would find out the hard way , needless to say he threw another , now picture this , the man was about 280lbs , red hair , red beard , ( his nickname was corndog , compliments of me) I took my extra sandwhich , pulled the bolagna off of it , which had mayo caked on one side ,walked up to him from the side and ssllappppp !!! I put all 190lbs of me behind it , an hit him square on the cheek , the roar from our other coworkers was priceless, that of a room full of stoned people at a Larry the Cable guy show , and that’s where the term bolagna slapped originated , Oh yeah it left one hell of a round red spot on his face lol , his exact words were ….. man that shit hurt

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Aug 3, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Priceless!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Rec’d.

I hope it’s true, cause it’s hilarious.

Is it football season yet?

by juperee on Aug 8, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

if mcnabb wins here…he is a lock for hof. if he wins in min as a last min free agent, not such a clear case

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

He's not in the HOF either way

and I don’t think people are going to make much of a distinction between whatever late-career teams he ends up on

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what people used to say about Kurt Warner...

Then he had success with the Cardinals after losing the starting jobs in St. Louis and New York. And that success with the Cardinals (at the time a project team) has all but sealed Kurt Warner as a Hall of Famer.

If McNabb replicates his previous success with a project team in the Redskins. He could easily go to the HOF.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warners pre-Cardinals success annihilates McNabb's

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

5 NFC Championships; 1 SB loss; 9 NFC East Crowns = sustained elite caliber play

Warner had maybe 3 great years with the Rams and went downhill fast. 1 SB win and two SB losses for his career if you include Arizona.

(I think I have the gist of my facts correct) :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

And the football media as a whole would disagree that there is as large of a disparity between the two’s initial careers as you are claiming. This is an article that came out during the NFC championship game 2 years ago about the importance of that game to their HOF likelihood:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80e29915&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

I agree that Warner’s pre-Cardinal success (only because of the SB win) is better than McNabb’s pre-Skins, but they are definitely comparable which is my point. You said that there is no way McNabb could go to the HOF with any team. I think if he won a Super Bowl with the Skins, then he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and most people would agree.

Kurt Warner, pre-Cardinals:
40 Wins, 20 Losses
108 TD’s, 69 Int’s
2 MVP’s, 3 Pro Bowls
2 NFC title games, 2 SB’s (1 win)

Donovan McNabb, pre-Skins:
83 Wins, 45 Losses, 1 Tie
216 TD’s, 100 Int’s
6 Pro Bowls
5 NFC title games, 1 SB (0 wins)

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for looking up

the facts as opposed to my shaky recollection.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took me a little while. lol.

But the point I initially made is obvious. Both were elite QB’s. Neither was a lock for the HOF. But if Warner is the blueprint- then if McNabb replicates his success with a 4-12 team, then he will be a HOF’er. Warner even had a poor start with the Cardinals, but since he turned it around, everyone just remembers he did it big with more than one team. McNabb has that same opportunity.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warner's noticably ahead due to two MVPs and a SB win

And then to compare production:

McNabb w/Eagles averaged per 16 games:
23.2 TD; 10.8 INT; 3550 yds; 59% comp
Warner w/STL+NYG averaged per 16 games: 27 TD; 17.2 INT: 4125 yds; 65% comp

IMO Warner’s numbers are much better, and in the eyes of voters they’ll love Warner’s two MVPs and SB win, none of which McNabb have.

And the football media as a whole would disagree

lol

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIR , Mr.Smutsboy1

You Sir , for what ever reason(s) JUST DISLIKE McNABB
There are those who say that had McNabb had better RB’s , his numbers would have been greater.

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I reread your posts and never manage to find an actual argument.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are just nit-picking, and missing the entirety of my actual point.

First you said:
 

Warners pre-Cardinals success annihilates McNabb’s

Then, after being confronted with the stats, you downgraded your stance to:
 

Warner’s noticably ahead

The truth is, both were excellent QB’s. Neither would be in the HOF on their initial success… for McNabb because he never won the SB, and for Warner because his career consisted of 3 years of production.

I was making the point that since Warner replicated the success with a rebuilding team (even w/o winning the SB), he is going to go to the HOF, and if McNabb could do the same (though it may take an actual win in the SB) with a different rebuilding team- THEN your statement:

He’s not in the HOF either way

is a ridiculous one.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ nitpicking.

Prior to Arizona, Warner would have been a long shot, but he would have been in the discussion. In fact I remember such discussions happening all over the place. You win two MVPs and a super bowl and you’re in the discussion, end of story.

McNabb right now is nowhere close. He’s had a number of good years, never a single one where he was ‘great’, and never came close to an MVP award.

He’s never been on Peyton or Brady’s level, and right or wrong, players get judged by voters against the peers from their era.

It would take multiple MVPs, a super bowl and/or multiple years of being clearly the best QB in the NFL for McNabb to even enter the discussion, let alone look like the strong candidate that Warner is now.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that we will have to agree to disagree...

I think that there are plenty of HOF’ers that had very long and prosperous careers while sustaining a high caliber of play yet still were never an MVP’s or won a Super Bowl.

McNabb has 6 Pro Bowls, was THE key player on an elite team for the past decade, and since you said he never had any big awards- he was the NFC Offensive Player of the Year in 2004 (basically one space away from the MVP since the winner is usually a Conference OPOTY).

Smutsboy1, you and I always seem to get in these in depth debates. It is always very entertaining. I’m done arguing this one though- I don’t think either of us are willing to budge, so I guess we have to agree to disagree.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we argue about that then?

lol

so I guess we have to agree to disagree.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

mcnabb has never had receivers and everyone knows it. lol

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, and Torry Holt all are legitimate playmakers to the likes of which McNabb never had. The one season they gave him a legit threat in Terrell Owens, they made the Super Bowl.

by preppiejack on Aug 3, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

does anyone dispute this?

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give him Westbrook

The two were an excellent 2-headed monster.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY

I don’t think Donovan McNabb is getting the credit for being one of the league’s best. To me, he’s in the same category as Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. I said when McNabb was benched, that would have never happened to Manning or Brady, but it happened to McNabb and I don’t think that’s right. You should never bench a guy like that. This guy has led his team to five NFC Championship Games without a real receiver — outside of T.O. for one year. They don’t have a real rushing attack. McNabb is a guy who wills his team to win. But for some reason, he never gets mentioned with those elite quarterbacks.
That came from a link given by you
I dont thik that he is quite in the same caliber with those two…but not too far behind,all things considered..Like having GR8 receivers..
We could use VJ but only for the Correct Price
Go Skins

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would add about a half dozen wins over the skins

where McNabb was the difference, either with his feet or throwing for late scores. He has been a pain in our @ZZ for way too long. How can any Skins fan ignore that?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Johnson's Defense and Westbrook scared me far more than McNabb ever did

People always forget to mention he had one of the best defenses in the league for several years. That more than anything got them to the NFC championship 5 times.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You are in a small minority.
To me, he’s in the same category as Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

If McNabb gets the same voters that voted in Warren Moon, he’s a lock.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 3, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

If within the next few years the Skins go to and win the sb he is N
go skins

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree. if mcnabb wins a superbowl with the redskins, he goes to the hof. his career numbers already support it. he just needs that last, elusive big win.

by les boulez bomber on Aug 3, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man if we traded two valuable picks for a one year rental

lord help me

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

We had to take the risk

I’m sure they were betting on keeping him for at least 2-3 years.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

With risk

There should be a “plan B”. If the Rexanator is plan B, oh. My. Goodness.

by gopens44 on Aug 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. We didn't.

Not even close.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

two valuable picks

and a starter

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Abusing children isn't funny

but I laughed

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 3, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure there will be spin, but

I’d like to hear D-Nab clear the comment up. Exactly why would he have wanted to play there? Was that before the line declined? Just really likes AP? If Sal-Pal is certain he said it, then there has to be follow up. I won’t worry until he actually confirms with caveats or denies with fury (or Furrey, if they are standing together)

by gopens44 on Aug 3, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

just like the T.O situation

Mike Green in regular season- Norris Canadiate. Mike Green in Playoffs- Nowhere to be found

by Lancers25 on Aug 3, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure

once Reid and D-Mac decided that a trade was best for the Eagles and McNabb, he was allowed to put together a wish list. He couldn’t just say I want to go to one particular team. Both MN and DC met his criteria, whatever they were. It says a lot about Reid and McNabb that they were able to come to this kind of agreement and then get the deal done with a division rival.. Pretty classy. But then again, McNabb may have brought a slab of bacon to the meeting. Reid would have agreed to anything, methinks…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles Fan Checking in

Donovan is not that fickle. I think the Skins are going to be really good. The things Shanahan is good at are the things the Skins struggled with last year. He will for once, not require Donovan to carry the team on his shoulders. But there will be times that the coach and Donovan will remind the league how difficult it is to tackle this QB. Donovan is one of the strongest QBs physically. Shanahan’s O-line system (Rules allowed cut blocking ala your HOGS!) and the fact he has 2 tackles now, shows what he plans to do with the Senior Tour running back by committee. The Skins will suddenly have a stout running game to go along with that stout defense that was better than the stats showed last year. Ask the Cowboys. What’s deep is that this is traditional Redskins football, all the stuff that made me want to puke in the 1980’s. Don won’t leave after a solid year in DC. I will be jealous of your success.

This Eagles Team has a suspicious unknown nature that usually is the characteristic of a loser. I hope I'm wrong! E A G L E S EAGLES!

by Lombardi and Broad on Aug 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

fresh kool-aid...

imported from Philly…..mmmmmmmm thats good stuff.

by MagicHat on Aug 3, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL! It is going to be fun watching this all unfold. I think you are safe. See you guys first Sunday

in October!

This Eagles Team has a suspicious unknown nature that usually is the characteristic of a loser. I hope I'm wrong! E A G L E S EAGLES!

by Lombardi and Broad on Aug 3, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better,+

D.Mac is worth what they payed for him..easily.
If he is protected ,this TEAM will be Vastly improved and will be on the way towards being even Better next year. At that time D. Mac is not going to Abandon the TEAM.
Go Skins

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully this is just nonsense

but if its true… and if Campbell starts to look good for Oak…. wow will we be the laughing stock.

by SkinsOsTerps on Aug 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch the double whammy

Hurts more than a slice of bologna to the face…I think.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously think I need to go to the store....

and buy some bologna, just so I can slap somebody with it.

by MagicHat on Aug 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah…….I don’t think Campbell is going to start to look good at anything football wise.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 3, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you are used to seeing

Jamarcus Russel and our own Rexxy play. He will look like a stud by comparison.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing to get worried about

McNabb is gonna get paid a buttload of Snyder money. He will be within the top 5 highest paid QB’s if I had to bet.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

A big help

I think would be to get a big, playmaking receiver for McNabb. If we (not saying trade for VJ) acquired a big name, through FA, trade, or the draft, it may be more tempting for him to stay. I doubt he already has this planned, because we don’t even know the process of this extension anyways, but it is alarming. Like I said, don’t bank either way though.

by BigOLinemen on Aug 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

D.Mac

I think that he’s receiving about 12 mil.this final year of his Contract

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard 13M

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really see how this changes much of anything.....

I don’t think anybody should be surprised that Minnesota was high on his “wish list” and even if Favre came (comes) back this year I think that it would be a safe bet that it actually would be the last, leaving the Minnesota job open next year anyway. Minnesota will struggle without Favre making the Vikings a lot less attractive next year than if farve stayed (stays)

by MagicHat on Aug 3, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It was, at best, just a wish list

Now he’s with the Skins and Shanahan – a great situation – he will forget Minnesota. His early thoughts, before any real possibilities emerged, are irrelevant. Favre was still there, too, as far as he knew.

by Donnio1234 on Aug 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait What!!!!

You mean to tell me that McNabb didn’t really want’ to come to Washington with all of that talent on the outside, mess of an offensive line and a crackpot of an owner? I’m shocked by all of this…

by Obey on Aug 3, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

shocked I tell you

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 4, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was news before he got traded

I rememeber the story clearly, Mcnabb wanted to go to Minnesota if he had his choice. Favre was apparently coming back and so he decided his next best option was Washington according to Mcnabb and Andy Reid.

So the media decides to recycle a story with some added news about him not signing because next year he’s going to sign with the Vikings. I now have zero respect for Sal Palantonio because he has decided to try and create something out of nothing and join the crisis center media.

WHO CARES! lets wait and see what Mcnabb does this year before we start talking about 2011. By these standards everyone should just kill themselves now because someday you’re all going to die and so why wait for that to get here because it might be painful thinking about until it gets here, SO just do it NOW!

The media makes almost everything out to be a crisis!This isn’t news just a bunch of bullshit to stir up work for the media.

Articles like this are at the height of irresponsibility and this is proof positive that terrible journalism is at an all time high. Calling this journalism is being very very gracious.

by skinsymets on Aug 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Washington fans

Oh! McNabb is going to leave! He doesn’t love us! McNabb wants a super bowl ring.How many Super Bowl trophies are sitting in the Vikings offices? 0. At least Washington can show McNabb a few in their display cases. How many Spur Bowl teams has The Vikings coach actually coached? And the Washington head coach?How much money will the Vikings pay McNabb? How much money will Snyder throw at McNabb. How far is Minnesota from Philadelphia where I assumes he lives vs. how far from Washington? And does Minnesota play Philadelphia twice a year? Believe it or not, the Redskins look like a pretty good team to me this year. If I were McNabb I wouldn’t be going anywhere. He has a team owner who would buy a Super Bowl if he could and a highly respected head coach and a team with a boatload of talent thanks to Cerrato. All this angst and inferiority complexes that I read is sad. Chillax. McNabb will be on the Redskins when he is 38 because McNabb knows he has a better chance of winning a ring here than he does in Minnesota.

by likethecow on Aug 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

"Boatload of talent thanks to Cerrato"

You’re the only guy on HH, other than me, that gives Cerrato any credit for anything. I think he built a team with a lot of talent, but with a couple of weak areas: O-line depth (even though he did try to fix it with Mike Williams and Jeremy Bridges), QB (where he deferred to Zorn) and wide receiver, where he hoped Thomas and Kelly would blossom. Then devatating injuries and lousy coaching (plus mediocre seasons from Campbell, Thomas and Kelly) ruined everything. Anyway, that’s the way I see a very disappointing season.

by Donnio1234 on Aug 3, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude your posts get dumber and dumber

Cerrato did not build a team with talent. He threw away draft picks whenever possible and failed to address the teams weaknesses even when they were apparent. Instead of putting together a core we traded draft picks for past-their-prime names who never contributed. When he had the opportunity to do some work on the O-line he drafted a bunch of pass catchers all of whom remain question marks at best. Blame Zorn if you want but he was much more the victim than Cerrato. He was brought in as offensive coordinator and got thrown into the HC position when it became clear that no coach worth a damn would coach for a team where Cerrato/Snyder controlled the front office and apparently had a major role in the schemes the team employed.

by SkinsOsTerps on Aug 3, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you have it

The glass half full or the glass half empty in a nuts hell.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 4, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on..
McNabb knows he has a better chance of winning a ring here than he does in Minnesota.

Please disregard the above post, it’s clear that this person skipped his PM medication

by Obey on Aug 3, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Washington has

a better chance of going to the super bowl this year than Minnesota. Thats a fact. Washington has an all pro caliber quarterback. No Farvre. That is Minnesota has.

by likethecow on Aug 3, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sure hope you are right. But in all honesty…I just don’t know about all of that. I hope you are right.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 3, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm

There isn’t one fact in your post…What good is our all pro caliber QB going to be if our wide outs can’t get open. Well Obey, they will hand the ball off to portis or one of the other 3 RB’s that we have. Well stupid, what is our all pro caliber QB going to do when teams stuff the box?

Also inform Vegas about your facts, they have Minnesota picked higher then the Redskins to win the Superbowl. But Obey Farve is retiring. It still won’t make a difference stupid, they will still be picked ahead of the Redskins.

by Obey on Aug 3, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

OL, WRs, RB, defense > QB

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 4, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skins - right, it's not journalism

It’s just a sleazy attempt to cause trouble. For one thing, how did he know what Donovan was thinking back then? He has to just be guessing, maybe based on a rumor or on an anonymous source. And what was going through D-Mac’s mind at various times in the past is irrelevant now. He seems happy here. If the situation is right, and he and the team do well, he’ll stay.

by Donnio1234 on Aug 3, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing has changed.

Farve wasn’t likely to play next year anyway, so nothing has changed. If McNabb really wants to go to Sota, he’ll do so. I wouldn’t discount the revenge factor though. There’s something to be said about being able to play the team that gave up on you twice a year. If he has a good experience here this year, I’m betting he’ll stick around.

by wavery on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

The Skins have a football history

Its in the Blood…they have been down , but they have kept Life.They are a sleeping FOOTBALL TEAM
Defense wins Championships..the Skins have NEVER LOST their Defensive Mindset…its lying in wait..Hopefully AH comes around and becomes a TEAM LEADER…..they will then surely intimidate some folks
Add a better O and Guess What
Go Skins

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNabb

McNabb will probably go to Minnesota but he might get tired of pushing his wheelchair there….after his first starts in burgundy and gold.

by poopo on Aug 3, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

McNabb

I hope McNabb is here for three more years.

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 4, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

HOF'ers

There is no arguing McNabb will start this season again with the “most accomplished quarterback playing without a Super Bowl Championship” label. However, this is not the NBA, because there are 10 other guys on the field. There is also a pretty impressive list of all-time greats that never won the big one, including Hall of Famers Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton and, last but not least, Sonny Jurgenson.
D.Mac is driven…in persuit of being a Redskins Champion

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 4, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

How Many

HOW MANY SB’s was Fran Tarkington associated with?

sbredskinsnabb

by sbredskinsnabb on Aug 4, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

is there anyways?

we can get dibs on Nick Montana? or DYLAN FAVRE? (even though Favre does not have an NFL Esque body… i think he will go to the Saints and be the next drew brees)

ponder is a beast, as well as luck, locker, and throw in my vote for the next mike vick BJ Daniels :)

by Kia.Area51 on Aug 4, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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