Tiller's Dollars and Cents: Redskins Five Roster Cuts
by Tiller56 on Aug 29, 2010 9:44 AM EDT
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PrintTuesday, August 31st looms large in the eyes of many roster hope-fulls around the NFL. Coaches need to trim their roster size by 5. The Redskins have some interesting decisions to make come this Tuesday. We are pretty heavy in numbers at wide receiver, running back and corner. I don't expect these cuts to be the worst of the worst, rather, guys who may have a good chance of catching on with another team before the season starts.
1.) Joey Galloway - Yes he has played good, and yes he still has a little left in the tank, but where we are at right now, the Redskins need to start developing young talent. Galloway was brought in to help mentor our young receivers, and he has done just that. Anthony Armstrong, Terrence Austin, and Brandon Banks have all had good camps, and shown significant improvement throughout the preseason. Galloway can no longer be asked to play special teams at this point in his career, so his value there is diminished. It would be a class move for the Redskins to release him early, so he has time to catch on with another club if he intends to keep playing.
2.) Willie Parker - Clinton Portis is our starter. By all accounts, Larry Johnson appears to be our number one backup. Torain and Williams add some much needed youth to our rotation, and can play special teams. Parker hasn't exactly lit it up in training camp, or any preseason game. Much like the situation with Galloway, the Redskins should release him early, so he has the opportunity to catch on with another team.
3.) Dennis Morris - Up to this point, Morris has not been able to learn the playbook, nor has he shown the ability to catch and block. So, I ask you this, what does he have going for him? Nothing. It's time to move on without him. If you come in unprepared, and show no improvement along the way, you do not deserve a spot on the roster. Period.
4.) Byron Westbrook - Westbrook's time has come and past. Barnes, Buc and Tryon have all played better than him. He does not really seem to fit into our return game either. Some team may take a chance on him as a special teamer, but I just don't see him being a quality NFL corner. Nothing to see here folks.
5.) Ramzee Robinson - Has anyone heard anything about Robinson? I sure haven't. He may have some value to another team as a nickle/dime corner, or maybe even a return specialist, but the Redskins seem to have these spots already filled. No room on the boat here.
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A young guy like Hodge may be given the extra week of work, and that one extra preseason game
to see if he would be a candidate for the practice squad.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
yeah
that’s the only toughie… I think bartel will get cut and beck will stay -
but you need bartel for the 4th preseason game
FWIW
I don’t believe Galloway will be released; it’s just wishful thinking on my part.
If there were a chance he gets released, I do believe it would happen early, as for my reasone stated in my post. Again, just wishful thinking.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Early cuts
I’d give Hodge a chance in the Arizona game. Better to cut vets who might get picked up elsewhere. They didn’t even play the guy in NY. He might be a gamer, unlike certain second round choices we’ve known. Some of the O-linemen are dead men walking according to John Keim, too.
Glad you mentioned Barnes as a non-cut
he has slowly impressed me, not as any sort of star player but I feel like I have seen him involved in plays more and more in the right kind of way. Maybe it’s just my Terp bias (the hit on Jahvid Best will always be classic) but I feel like he could eventually be a contributing player on this team.
My two sleepers already got cut: Michael Greco (FS) and Andrew Tyshovnytsky (OT)
Physically both of these guys were very athletic. They would have shown up good at the combines.
I showed my five cuts on 8/27 in the Daily Slop. Nothing has changed my mind since.
“1. Howard Green (NT) 2. Rob Jackson (OLB) 3. Will Montgomery (RG) 4. Clint Oldenburg (RT) 5. Lendy Holmes
The Team will probably keep the guys that will make the practice squad on the September 4 cuts.”
As I expected teams started doing the cuts shortly after their 3rd preseason games. The Colts, Jets, Chiefs, Eagles, and Falcons are likely to be down to 75 players – http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Why is Kelly not on anyone's list?
The dude is done squat all in two and a half years, and he can’t even practice or play in a preseason game. Why not cut him now? He’s just taking a roster spot from somebody who can play or practice.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
Well what recievers in camp have done anything the last 2 years?
Moss and Wade are the only 2 who have done anything. He caught as many balls as Thomas last year and has def. out performed Galloway, Armstrong, Roydell, Hodges etc over that time. Banks and Austin are unproven rookies. I get your point but it’s not like anyone else on the roster has done more than “squat all” in the last 2 years outside of Wade and Moss.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If he were to get cut it would be after this week
He’s set to play against Arizona.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Aug 29, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say there is no way they cut Kelly before this last preseason game
he’s supposed to go full bore at practice today. now if he retweaks it in practice today maybe they cut him, but is there anyway to put him on IR if he tweeks it again?
Be patient
one more pre-season game and he’s toast.
by DudleyDoright on Aug 30, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
DON'T FORGET THE RHINO-VIRUS
Yet another of the late, lamented Vincinezo Cerrato’s draft picks in on the chopping block. Chad Reinhart will almost certainly be axed. If it doesn’t happen this week, it will happen next week.
In fact, I’d expect A LOT OF CUTS. Certainly more than 22. I suspect Allen is scanning the rosters of every (good) team in the league now looking for players who couldn’t quite catch on with, say, the Packers, Vikings, Colts, Texans, etc.
Doesn't fit Allen's cup of tea. I don't think we should.
He’s a very high risk, low reward player according to multiple sources after his time with Cleveland he never caught on. It’s mainly attributed to the injury he attained all those years ago, he hasn’t been the same player and lost some burst which affects separation i.e. route running, speed, etc. Cincinnati has a good WR corps and I don’t think they would cut him for any arbitrary reason.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Aug 29, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
We’ve signed guys like Galloway, Furrey, and Wade at receiver, why not take a chance on Bryant? He’s 29 years old (9 years younger than Galloway) and coming off a year in which he had 40 catches for 600 yards for 4 TD’s which is much better than anything we signed at receiver this offseason. Also keep in mind he was doing that with Tampa who was AWFUL and didn’t really have a qb till Freeman stepped in who was just beginning his rookie campaiDid gn. Year before that he snagged 83 catches for 1300 yards with 7 TDs, definitely bring him in. If he doesn’t work out release him, no harm no foul. I know he’s not 100 percent healthy but why not take a chace on him, seems like we’ve done it with everyone else. Id be happy with an 85 % healthy Bryant over a 100% healthy Galloway. Shouldn’t Bruce Allen be familiar with him from his time in Tampa? Id feel a little bit better if our receiving corps looked like Moss, Thomas, Bryant as our top 3 rather than Galloway in the top 3. Fill the remaining spots deciding between Banks, Austin, MK12, Galloway, Wade, Armstrong and Williams. Preferrably Armstrong, Banks, and Malcolm with Austin on the practice squad.
He's hurt
Even he admits he can’t cut at full speed due to the bum knee. Why would we want him?
by DudleyDoright on Aug 30, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
cuts
Maybe Montgomery, Oldenburg, Morris, Westbrook, Jackson. John Keim had some good things to say about Green (I think), and I read generally good things about Robinson and Holmes. Doesn’t make much difference to guys who aren’t going to get picked up by another team, except a week’s pay.
I don't see how Robinson makes this team
I imagine we keep 5 CB’s:
Hall
Rogers
Barnes
Tryon
Buc
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Robinson has made WAY more plays this preseason than Tryon
I think Tryon is on the outside looking in at the moment
Robinson?
Ramzee Robinson?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Yeah
When I’ve watched, he has been making tackles. Didn’t he force a turnover one week?
And from the other side, I haven’t heard much of Tryon at all.
BUF – Justin Tryon – Tackles: 4 Solo:3 Ast:1 2 Passes Defended
Ramzee Robinson – Tackles:1 Solo:1
BAL – Justin Tryon – Tackeles:1 Solo:1
Ramzee Robinson: 0
Tryon even has him beat in the regular season despite starting a year later.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
See, I keep hearing conflicting stuff on Tyron
One day I hear he is impressing, next day I hear he is doing poorly. Sometimes I hear that Tyron is at least the 4th CB, other times I hear he is a likely cut.
by BigOLinemen on Aug 29, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well okay.....here's my counter
1) Galloway stays – you don’t cut guys who are performing on the field, plain and simple. He’s getting open, shows that he still has downfield speed and is running good routes. he stays until someone, anyone shows that they could do better.
who gets nailed instead?
Malcom Kelly – this isn’t the NBA where you can project to something and sit on the bench. If you can’t get on the field, you aren’t helping the team. Shanny is a stone cold coach, you give me performance or else.
2) Willie Parker – you keep RB’s around until you NEED to cut them, especially since it appears to be the most injury prone position.
Who goes instead? I would nominate …
Justin Tryon – hasn’t made an impact on teams or on the field imho but as always ymmv.
3) Dennis Morris – I’m in complete agreement with you on him. Other guys appear to want it more.
4) Byron Westbrook – I disagree with you here, he’s a solid teams performer and I found him to be less crispy than Tryon in coverage. Does it mean he makes the final roster, unknown, but he’s more of a contributor currently than Justin is.
In his place? Derrion Scott – he’s not a bad guy, it’s just that we have at least five other guys just like him.
5) Ramzee Robinson – he hasn’t done anything to standout, in many ways, that’s a good thing as a corner, means that you’re not seeing his number on his back chasing after a receiver that has burned him.
instead, I would propose… James Dearth. At this point, if our current LS (Sundberg) hasn’t screwed the pooch because of the competition, then it’s time to move on. If there’s a need, Dearth or Albright should only be a phone call away.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
It wont happen
just trying to be an optimist
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
kelly's gone
why keep kelly he has been hurt since he has been here you are just going to get more of that all year. I don’t know why you mention Thomas he is going to have a solid year. I predict westbrook makes it also.
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