Hanburger nominated by Seniors Committee for 2011 HOF class
by piratedan7 on Aug 25, 2010 7:23 PM EDT
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PrintAt long last it's happened. As was alluded to by Peter King from his column over the HOF lovefest earlier this year, it appears that the movement not only has legs, its a movement all its own:
Granted, Chris still has to get 80% of the votes, but I can't see where there would be an immense amount of pushback from his selection out of the Seniors Committee. Here's hoping that Chris will be the next Redskin to enter the confines of Canton.
Once upon a time, I had this card in my collection
and for you guys who are still old school:
http://www.profootballhof.com/photos/chris-hanburger/2010/8/25/
Gotta love those old spear helmets.
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Joe Jacoby
He’s arguably the best Tackle of the 1980’s. I can honestly defend that statement to anyone willing to challenge it. He, with the help of the hogs, led the Redskins to the four superbowls and won three.
easy tiger
He’s arguably the best Tackle of the 1980’s.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Its sad because
I’m 24 and have no connection to any of these guys really. Looks like DGreen is really the only HOFamer from my childhood.
The question is who will be the next Skins HOFamer from the present. McNabb doesn’t count, unless he takes us to a SB, and by the way how sick would it be to go to the SB in Dallas and have the end zone painted with the Redskins logo.
at this point I am not sure we have any HOFers
with doing some major projecting or potentializing, Orapko and Williams certainly have the potential, but it is waaaay to early for that kind of talk. Portis and/or Moss would have to go out in a blaze to even be considered (4000+yds, 25+tds and a SB MVP over the next three years might do it)….I would love to believe that Fletch could get in, I believe he is the opitome of what a football player should be, and deserves many more accolades than he has received.
not discounting Samuels at all,
he is just not on the list, and not on our current roster. The hogs will always get more attention……Three superbowl trophy’s with three different QB’s in one era is the Hogs resume, considering we were not a defensive team (a la Bears, Ravens….our D was damn good but we could score a lot of points as well) that is an amazing accomplishment, unmatched.
You're going to make Ken cry
He’s adamant about Portis being in the HoF.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
good god.
He’s adamant about Portis being in the HoF.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I'll IM him and get him to respond...
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see it....
even if he excels again everyone is going to say it’s all Shanny and not Portis. I don’t dislike Portis, but I do have some issues with him. I definitely want him to be successful for the good of the team, but he is not the back that I am going to be happy about surpassing some of Riggo’s records this year.
Too many too young folks.
Pat Fischer was the greatest DB in Redskins history (and one of the best in league history) prior to Darryl Green.
Sad that so few have voted for him… Joe Jacoby is a great player, but Fischer should go way before Joe. And maybe Jerry Smith, too.
Of course, I’d be happy for all of them to go….
They probably don't want Fischer in...
Solely b/c they’re afraid of what his induction speech would be.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 26, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
But they let Riggo in...?
I know Pat was an animal of a player, but…..
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Not meaning to argue
but IMHO Ken Houston was the best DB we have ever had. Pat Fischer was great tho as was Joe Jacoby & Larry Brown. All great Redskins
not gonna argue that
But Ken is already in (and he’s deserving of the honor as well obviously).
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
a few thoughts on the poll
to help the young ones get acquainted with the Redskins of the past…
Len Hauss – Center – was the anchor for the OL that allowed Sonny to find the open Charlie Taylor, Bobby Mitchell and Jerry Smith. To be honest, the ‘Skins didn’t have much of a running game during those years until Larry Brown showed up and Lombardi put some emphasis on the running game back in 69.
Jerry Smith – quite possibly the best pass catching TE of that era. He may never get the call due to his rumored sexual orientation. No one questioned his production on the field.
Larry Brown – look at his number and look at Floyd Little’s numbers and tell me who had the better career. One of the few beefs I had with George Allen was on how he used Larry knowing his running style. Larry Brown ran with the football with a complete disregard for his own safety. John Facenda once identified him as a sure fire Hall of Famer, and yet…..
Dave Butz – the man mountain. You didn’t run on Dave Butz. It couldn’t be done.
Jim Lachey – a standout LT from Oakland, who was acquired and performed at the pro Bowl level for us. His career was shortened by injury, but while he was on th field, he was one of the best, plain and simple.
Joe Jacoby – I don’t even need to say anything
Pat Fischer – the original Little Ball of Hate. He was one of the most driven ballplayers ever. Not incredibly fast, or tall, or big, or gifted, just gritty and smart and flat out mean. His battles with Harold Charmichael of the Eagles are epic as this 5’7" DB would be in Charmichael’s jock and head all game. Pat didn’t seem to care about size and took every pass in his direction as a personal affront against his manhood.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Aug 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Yea great job, a lot of people forget about Skins history pre-Hogs and its nice to get a look into the past…
by Parks Smith on Aug 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Back to Pat...
ST was great (and would have been a HOFer is his career hadn’t been so tragically short). And even the young folks remember how he made some star Wideouts eyes get wide when he lined up against them. Think ST on steroids when you think of Pat Fischer’s game. If a wideout had a good game against Pat, he didn’t dare discuss it after the game. And that was a rare thing indeed. ST reminded me of Pat Fischer in terms of the fear and presence that other wideouts had of him.
And yes, his HOF speech would be… interesting.
And as for Jerry Smith… I thought it was widely known at the time that he batted for the other team, so to speak, when he got off the field… but he was without a doubt a HOFer as a TE (on the field… no knownledge, nor desire, to know anything off the field). No one would need to worry about what he would say of course, since he passed away of AIDS back in 1986. But his last LEAGUE record for a TE wasn’t broken until somethink like 1994, IIRC. He still holds a number of team records as a TE.
I’d probably go with Big Dave Butz as my #3 in order, followed by Joe Jacoby. What’s sad is that as I write this, 68 people went with Joe (worthy, but not most worth) while Pat, Jerry, and Dave have but 13 votes among them. Pat and Jerry played before Gibbs I. But Big Dave ANCHORED the DLine for all those years… in the one position you’d think we’d be most nostalgic about getting a great player in, and in the memory of the younger folks…. sheesh!
Pat and Dave in the HOF
would be a huge celebration in my house, they both mean a lot to me sentimentally, even though their personalities are so different. Pat so “little” but so vicious, Dave HUGE, but a gentle, kind human being. Both, in there way, were great influences to me growing up. Pat, because I was a ball player, “too small, too slow etc.” my dad learnt me all about Pat. Dave was a hero of mine and I got to meet him for the first time as a child on Halloween. We made trip to my grandparents and I didn’t know why I was there, and the Dave Butz showed up…dressed as the Hulk… I am still not sure how he fit in the house….and he was such the gentle giant….I met many of the great Redskins as I was growing up, Dave was amazing, always giving back.
If Chris Berman got in
the honor just isn’t as big a deal as it used to be
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