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Daily Slop: Sapp Rips Haynesworth (Again); Cowher Defends Shanahan; Beck Will Play

Redskins notebook, 08/24/10 | Washington Examiner
John Beck has hit a plateau but will see time. He is not practice squad eligible, but Bartel is. Dennis Morris is still suffering from a knee injury and looks lost as ever at TE.

Cowher: Shanahan on right side of Haynesworth feud - NFL - Sporting News
"Mike is doing what he needs to do and handling it real well," Cowher said Tuesday. "As a new coach there, he has to take the rest of his players into consideration."

Warren Sapp Sounds Off on Albert Haynesworth again -- NFL FanHouse
"Well, the check isn't going to change. And that's the whole key to this situation. He doesn't care how many plays he plays. The plays that I'm watching he's just jumping to one side ripping. I mean, he has no awareness of where the ball is. He doesn't care. So if we're talking about evaluation of his play compared to the check that he's getting, he knows what it is. 'I get eight plays and a big check, that's not bad.' It's wrong, though."

D.C. Sports Bog - LaRon Landry is enormous
Click for the picture. Ken told me he already ordered this shirt to wear at the Dallas tailgate. 

Redskins Insider - Joey Galloway watches, Anthony Armstrong catches
"I wanted to get some of the guys that I really haven't been able to evaluate, some of the younger guys and see how they do in game situations. I think I know how Joey has handled himself for a lot of years, playing in games."

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D.C. Sports Bog - LaRon Landry's fake leg injury
With all the craziness after Saturday's scrimmage (Haynesworth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), I forgot to mention my favorite in-game moment: LaRon Landry's fake injury...

High ankle sprain sidelines Seattle Seahawks rookie LT Russell Okung - ESPN
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll says sixth-overall draft pick Russell Okung has a high right ankle sprain, putting the key position of left tackle in flux for Seattle heading into the regular season. Could be out months.

Jimmy Clausen told toe pain will linger during season - ESPN
Carolina Panthers backup quarterback Jimmy Clausen returned to practice Tuesday after missing a day with a sore right big toe, an ailment the former Notre Dame star expects to linger throughout his rookie season. Another point for Vinny!!!!!!!

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How lucky for Landry to

be on Clinton Portis’ gift list. Lovely, little number there. Picked it up while in Brazil, no doubt.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 25, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like a customized T-shirt

from a youth leadership camp. Brazilian tailors, of course.

by CarverM on Aug 25, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brazillian youth labor camp?

Sounds scary.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 25, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did the redskins trade for Josh Beck?

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 25, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

We traded a cornerback who was inconsequential

and Kyle Shanahan has reportedly liked John Beck since he came out of BYU

by DoWork on Aug 25, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a lot better than Bartel and has a lot more experience

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was a cut player for a cut player

and I expect Beck to be right back on the unemployment line shortly

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that based on us keeping 2 QBs or 3? Because I think that scenario has changed.

Was Beck ever in the unemployment line? He signed with Cameron like a day after he left Miami.

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't

but he was about to be if Bal traded him for someone we were going to cut.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Baltimore was just desperate for any kind of body at CB. I’m sure he would of been cut b/c of Bulger and they are not going to cut Smith.

But I would guess we would keep 3 QBs now and have one as the designated emergency player. Now do yall think that will be Beck or Bartel? Does Bartel make more sense due to the fact he can be on the practice squad?

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

First of all

What is Warren Sapp doing stealing Sean Taylor’s quote? He could at least acknowledge that another man said it before him.
Secondly, I don’t agree with him on Darelle Revis. While Revis will have to accept that he probably won’t get paid as much as he wants, he still deserves a lot more money than he’s getting. He’s the best DB in the game but only gets paid like a nickel CB. His situation is nothing like Haynesworth’s. Haynesworth already is the highest paid D lineman in history, and he’s not earning his dollar. Revis has earned his payday from the Jets already.

by kseandoyle on Aug 25, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Laron Landry

Laron looks like he wants to rip the head off of somebody in that picture.

LANDRY SMASH!!!

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Late addition...I hope Landry takes out Coles
“I’m very thankful to Dan Snyder for building my home down in Jacksonville,” said Coles, referring to a 25,000-square foot mansion, according to Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com. “That’s about it.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/25/ex-redskins-love-dan-snyder/

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

shrug.

Coles isn’t wrong for feeling that way.

It’s what players do: come here, get paid, leave town.

It’s Danny’s fault, not his.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just mad he couldn’t spend his money at the Tallahasee Dillards any more.

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why has Galloway been handed a roster spit again

A couple beat guys have said he hasn’t shown much during camp and were wondering why he wasn’t getting any preseason burn. Looks like he is being handed a spot based on name recognition. If a guy who has only caught 20 balls the last 2 seasons combined doesn’t have to prove himself than who does?

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 25, 2010 11:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't know

Its strange, I’d rather see a youth movement at WR.

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't get

why people aren’t a lot more pissed off about this

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 25, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

pissed off?

Of course we’re pissed off, for 10 years it’s been saying one thing and doing the other. But everybody seems to think that Shanahan and Alan will turn it around. I’m not so sure about either.
Examples: Alan states "we are going to get younger" what happens? We get older
Shanahan states "there will be competition at all positions" what happens? Williams gets handed the left tackle spot, McNabb gets handed the QB spot, I saw absolutely no competition for the three interior line jobs, running back has all but been handed to Portis, and Galloway seemed to be the designated number two wide receiver ever since he signed.
Our supposed "run first, West Coast offense" seems to be becoming about as pass happy as the Eagles.
Call me negative Nelly, but for me it’s "same sh1t, different season"
oh, and did I mention that we still haven’t addressed our biggest weaknesses OL and DL, and our run blocking really looks like crap?

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Joey is just on the roster

to be dropped the moment a player of interest gets dropped by some other team, preferably an OLineman.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Because like most old school coaches, Shanahan prefers veterans and has an aversion to rebuilding/developing youth at the expense of talent now.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joey's not guaranteed a roster spot

Shanahan knows his skills, so that means he has a bar to measure the rest against.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 25, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he doesn't know his skills, thats the point

Galloway hasn’t shown those skills in 2 years. Portis had a 1,500 yard season 2 years ago. Why should he have to prove himeslf and earn a spot then? or Willie Parker?, or Wade? When you have sucked for 2 consecuitve seasons, got cut midseason by a vet team trying to win now(They replaced him with Saim Aiken a special teamer) last year how are you any more proven than a guy like Banks? I mean Kelly and DT have both out produced Galloway the last 2 years. Does that mean Shanny doesn’t have to see them? It’s tough to see that quote and see it as anything other than a free pass for a guy 2 years removed from NFL relevance. If Galloway was killing it in Camp it would be one thing but apparently he’s just been a guy and hasn’t shown any ability to get deep. But 3 years ago he was good so let’s bring him in and hand him a spot. Maybe get Teddy Bruschi out of retirement, call Warren Sapp, Orlando Pace? What kind of message does it send the team? Some of whom are actually competing for their spots while being much closer to NFL success than Galloway.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's the point

We know how much Galloway sucks…so let all these kids play and see who emerges. If no one, than Galloway.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Galloway is being held out and then eventually cut?

I mean based on the last 2 years he clearly does not deserve to be on an NFL roster yet Shanny is talking about " I think I know how Joey has handled himself for a lot of years, playing in games." I’ll take your word for it I guess but it doesn’t seem to jibe with Shanny’s comments and I know Keim and atleast one other beat guy don’t understand it either. For my money he is no more proven than Armstrong or Banks.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

We’ll see how it all plays out though.

by VA_Skin on Aug 25, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping that's what ends up happening

But honestly, if Galloway does end up getting cut, I’d be highly surprised, and elated, at the same time.

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that fucker keeps getting hurt!

in other news, can anyone tell me how to update the roster for Madden ’11 on ps3?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 25, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then instead of Galloway getting hurt

your Xbox gets hurt.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Xbox sucks.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 25, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Xbox is fine. They just have as severe dying problem - which I had no desire to deal with.

New ones are supposedly better, but the numbers aren’t out yet.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 26, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

One's made by Sony the other Microsoft. Nuff said

Also Blu-Ray FTW.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 26, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Play an online match

If your roster is old it’ll auto download a new one.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 25, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thank you

worked perfectly.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 26, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

While the Team is keeping Galloway on the roster for 3 or 4 months,

they could have had a younger player in training, i.e., learning the offensive or defensive scheme that will be used in the regular season. Any player the Redskins pickup after the heavy roster reductions in September will not be able to absorb the play book as quickly.

by Jefferson1935 on Aug 25, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont understand...

“Any player the Redskins pickup after the heavy roster reductions in September will not be able to absorb the play book as quickly.”

Joey being on this team can’t affecting the players that will be cut in september because those players are currently on a NFL roster.

If there is a better player out there then the skins will sign him for the right price and replace joey.

by Ratek on Aug 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's there as motivation

You young turks want the spot, prove to me that you’re better than the old man on the mountain. If they sulk and complain, then you don’t want them anyway. If the accept the challenge and improve their skills and practice habits to show that they are indeed better, well then, lesson learned.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Aug 25, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't follow though

That’s handing him a spot without him having to earn it. He’s far enough removed from NFL success that no one should be proving they are better than him. He needs to prove he belongs on the roster. The “If the accept the challenge and improve their skills and practice habits to show that they are indeed better, well then, lesson learned” argument only makes sense if you credit Galloway with deserving to be on a roster which is a gift and not based on anything. People blame Portis for resting on his laurels last year coming off a probowl season. How is this not 10 times worse? Word from Keim and other beat writers is that Galloway has not been showing anything in camp or practice to indicate that any other reciever has to improve to be better. I think it’s a horrible precedent to have the “everyone must prove themselves through competition” policy only apply to certain players. I’d be pissed as hell if I was CP and actually having to compete and Joey just rides name recognition.

by BayAreaBullet on Aug 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm only going to say this one time

Laron Landry is on steroids (as are many, many professional athletes).

by kseandoyle on Aug 25, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh come-fucking-on!

While I refuse to point to specific players and allege that they are, in fact, using PEDs (be it steroids or HGH), I can say that if anybody thinks that the NFL is not worse than MLB, you should have your head examined.

It amazed me the degree to which people took an interest in PEDs in baseball to the complete and total exclusion of the NFL, the American sport that pioneered steroid culture in the 1970s.

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 25, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There
I’m only going to say allege this one time

Should be more acceptable…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 25, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not

It’s actually possible to be dedicated enough to train hard and look the way Landry does. Landry said he works out everyday (at his own home gym, or at Redskins park) in an interview so I don’t necessarily believe he’s taking steroids. Who knows? Maybe he is. But just because someone looks all jacked up doesn’t automatically guarantee that they’re on steroids.

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That must be his secret

I know that nothing gets me more pumped than hearing a slow jam from Luther Vandross.

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That’s what Coach Winters said about Lattimer. We all know how that turned out.

by The Mess on Aug 25, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice...

I wouldn’t worry about him till I hear reports of him he’s head-butting cars or something!

by ATXSkinfan on Aug 25, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm waiting to hear

If I don’t hear anything about smashed car windows at Redskins Park, I’ll know we don’t have anything to worry about.

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys,

the NCAA has a testing program for this sort of thing so I suggest we let them handle it. Besides, it´s not that hard to put 35 pounds of muscle on over the summer IF you hit the gym real hard.

by CarverM on Aug 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is incredibly hard...

35 lbs of muscle? In a Summer (3 mos)? Seriously? That’s insane, like, impossible growth. A calorie intake in the 4-5 thousand range would be required to even maintain that much growth, not to mention the fact that at that point you’re not even guaranteed you’ll be purely fueling protein synthesis, not to mention the fact that with that much of a calorie increase, there is going to be a decent amount of increase in fat mass as well…

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 25, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down

See: The Program

If you ever played football I find it hard to believe you aren’t already familiar with this. Hopefully you just forgot that quote.

by CarverM on Aug 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Never saw it, but...

I should’ve know. Respectfully withdrawn…

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 25, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not True

I tripled my strength last summer (albeit I was a little out of shape) it took three months of hard work and soreness. I adjusted my diet to lose weight and it worked out pretty well, the body is a very wonderful thing. I’m not surprised he’s that strong because he’s a professional athlete, thus he’s been working out probably half his life.

by TerpsAllTheWay on Aug 25, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um..

Strength is not muscle mass. Strength can improve dramatically, especially in the undertrained (or the person who hasn’t trained for an extended period of time) for a variety of reasons, but gaining 35lbs of hard skeletal muscle is nay impossible in 12 weeks. Naturally, without enhancements, that is.

To your point about him being a pro athlete so it isn’t unreasonable for him to experience large gains = opposite. The better conditioned an athlete, the harder it is to improve dramatically. At some point, your body finds it difficult to get much bigger, especially for athletes that are also spending a ton of time doing cardiovascular work, essentially cannibalizing their gains in muscle mass.

by TerroristFistJab on Aug 25, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are you getting these numbers from?

12 weeks, 35 lbs?

Landry was like 210 at the combine and he’s like 220 now?

by Parks Smith on Aug 25, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's referencing my quote above

from The Program, which he hadn’t seen.

by CarverM on Aug 25, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about Latimer coach

He was a special teams guy last year, and he’s put on 35 pounds of muscle and an attitude to go with it

by DoWork on Aug 25, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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