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Several Redskins Starters Out for Friday's Game vs Jets

Donovan McNabb is out and Shanahan said he probably wouldn't be able to go if it was regular season game. His boot is off, but he watched from the sidelines in an ankle wrap.

Mike Sellers is out with a sprained knee, but should be fine after that.

Malcolm Kelly is definitely out and Jason Reid reported that this does NOT mean he'll be cut. He still has a chance to prove his worth.

Kareem Moore is out 4-6 weeks after knee scope. Reed Doughty will start at FS but Chris Horton is competing for the spot.

Well, we'll get a good look at what the (potentially) 2010 Redskins will look like with Rex Grossman going up against a Jets defense. Where'd I put my blind-fold?

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Wow

I guess we’re all about to get a good lesson is masochism this Friday.

Anybody going out to get hammered to watch this debacle?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s the preseason. the colts are like 4-16 the last 5 preseasons. i can’t believe everyone tries to put so much in this.

a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon

by eastcoastatlas on Aug 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd game

when your really revving up for the season, your starting QB is out for the next two weeks, and the backup is known more for turnovers than his pocket presence with an o-line that is still trying to gel going against one of the best defenses in the league that will neatly segue into the Cardinals, whose defense is depleted but not totally inept right into Dallas.

Of all preseason games, these games are the most important. Not for the wins, but for the chemistry of everybody on the offense, and the centerpiece of the whole thing is out.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My liver just started to cry...

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 24, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any word on the extent of Nabby’s injury?

by JimmyK on Aug 24, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Sprain...

He’ll be fine…but this means he’ll likely sit next week too, which means Malcolm Kelly will get 0 game-time action with Malcolm Kelly.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be fine…but this means he’ll likely sit next week too, which means Malcolm Kelly Donovan McNabb will get 0 game-time action with Malcolm Kelly.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i had that correct

Malcolm Kelly plays with himself when McNabb is in the game.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah...
Malcolm Kelly plays with himself

When reporting goes a little too far…

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like Max on Max from Conan.

by brettpedigo on Aug 25, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really need him back for Week 1.

by JimmyK on Aug 24, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You and everyone not rooting

For the Cowdungs need him back for week 1.

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no… I reeeeaaaally need him back for Week 1.

by JimmyK on Aug 24, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something like that

by JimmyK on Aug 24, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something like that? Or is it that?

Or you bet on the Redskins? Never bet on the Redskins…

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never bet against the Redskins either...

They always lose the game but fail to cover. Double kick in the nuts.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

New info on that, Kevin.

Seems I remember hearing information on 980 recently on the last ten games between the ‘girls and the Redskins. Apparently, they’ve gone 5 and 5 (which is news to me, perchance the stats were about home games at FedEx?). Also, the ’skins covered the spread 7 of the ten games. Interesting. Maybe bet on, not to win, but to cover?

by landuin on Aug 24, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll def be doing a gambling post...

Will keep that in mind as part of the research.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

 “Still sore,” coach Mike Shanahan said. “He’s walking on the treadmill. He won’t play in this game.”

If he’s walking on it he should be 100% by week 1…and I’m basing that on Freshman year biology, which I took 20 years ago and remember none of.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That changes everything
I’m basing that on Freshman year biology, which I took 20 years ago and remember none of.

Well I feel a whole lot better in that case. Thanks Kevin.

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Recent studies have shown that Malcom Kelly getting “game time action” with Malcom kelly is actually Malcolm Kelly jerking his…

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 24, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez
Shanahan said he probably wouldn’t be able to go if it was regular season game.

McNabb’s already injured this seriously?

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

he’s blowing smoke

a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon

by eastcoastatlas on Aug 24, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't think trading a 2nd rounder for him could get any worse.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Since playing 16 games in 2003, McNabb has played one full season. We should know this is going to happen.

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 24, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I agree

I’ve been harping on this with ya’ll since we got him.

I was just making the point that this situation could be worse.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we get to see Sexy Rexy for the majority of the game

it’s the shit nightmares are made of

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

give me the under

with 3 turnovers (2 INT and a fumble)

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Grossman playing against the Jets blitzing defense?

I think I’m gonna go with the under. I just have a hunch.

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe I shoulda put it at 42.5

think I still like the under. Ok….31.5.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, how about this...

What will be higher…his total # of turnovers or his QB rating?

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh...

I’ll hesitantly go with a higher QB rating. I think…

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can i just predict it now?

Todd Collins will have a big day his 1st pre-season game w/ Bears and Rex will have a disastrous one? Seems about right.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against the Jets?

Still wouldn’t hesitate with the under.

And should he complete a couple and get that “I’m Going Deep” look in his eye, I’ll up my TO number.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that a response to me?

we make a trade I personally think is a mistake, some people around here love it, and the dude might ALREADY be missing time.

save it.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its alright I’ve just still yet to hear a positive thing out of you in like 2 years. But hey its just the way you roll…

by Parks Smith on Aug 24, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I know your rebuttal to this, so its not necessary

by Parks Smith on Aug 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could have drafted him

and he could have gotten injured. Same thing, except we have a seasoned veteran instead of a rookie.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 24, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only Vinny Cerrato drafts rookies with injury risks as high as McNabb's

And a 2nd round pick would be making a fraction of the money McNabb will (assuming we ever resign him)

And we wouldn’t be spending all day every day building an offense around a rookie, like we have with McNabb. When McNabb doesn’t play, that’s a huge percentage of team practice that flies out the window. Not all of it, but a lot.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record

Which one of these 2nd Round picks would you have taken over Donovan McNabb?

1 STL Saffold, Rodger, OT, Indiana
2 MIN Cook, Chris, CB, Virginia
3 TB Price, Brian, DT, UCLA
4 KC McCluster, Dexter, RB, Mississippi
5 PHI Allen, Nate, FS, South Florida
6 CLE Ward, T.J., FS, Oregon
7 TB Benn, Arrelious, WR, Illinois
8 MIA Misi, Koa, DE, Utah
9 BUF Troup, Torell, DT, UCF
10 NE Gronkowski, Rob, TE, Arizona
11 BAL Kindle, Sergio, DE, Texas
12 OAK Houston, Lamarr, DT, Texas
13 DEN Beadles, Zane, OT, Utah
14 NYG Joseph, Linval, DT, East Carolina
15 ARI Washington, Daryl, LB, TCU
16 CAR Clausen, Jimmy, QB, Notre Dame
17 SF Mays, Taylor, FS, Southern Cal
18 KC Arenas, Javier, CB, Alabama
19 MIN Gerhart, Toby, RB, Stanford
20 PIT Worilds, Jason, DE, Virginia Tech
21 NE Cunningham, Jermaine, DE, Florida
22 CIN Dunlap, Carlos, DE, Florida
23 DAL Lee, Sean, LB, Penn State
24 GB Neal, Mike, DT, Purdue
25 BAL Cody, Terrence, DT, Alabama
26 HOU Tate, Ben, RB, Auburn
27 CLE Hardesty, Montario, RB, Tennessee
28 SEA Tate, Golden, WR, Notre Dame
29 NYJ Ducasse, Vlad, OT, Massachusetts
30 NE Spikes, Brandon, LB, Florida
31 IND Angerer, Pat, LB, Iowa
32 NO Brown, Charles, OT, Southern Cal

by VA_Skin on Aug 24, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's your point?

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd simply like to know

what player you feel we missed out on by trading that 2nd Round pick for McNabb. It could also be anyone from the 3rd round, since we didn’t pick there either. Who should we have drafted with our 2nd pick (instead of trading for McNabb)?

by VA_Skin on Aug 24, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't evaluate the McNabb trade on whether Player X turns out better

That’s hindsight and it doesn’t help.

You evaluate it on whether it’s better to add a 2nd rounder to the team, knowing you hit on X% of second rounders, or whether we’re better off with an extremely talented but injury prone 33 y.o. QB who will play at most 4 more years, probably more like 2-3 good ones.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimately

the only thing that matters is how these players, and by extension, the team turns out. That’s the measuring stick we’re all going to use to evaluate these moves. QB is the most important position in football. If McNabb plays here for the next 4 years, that just means we won’t have to reach for the next Clausen or Tebow or McCoy in 2011/2012. Instead, we can continue retooling the OL and other less critical positions.

by VA_Skin on Aug 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having McNabb doesn't mean we don't need to draft a QB

sooner rather than later.

Only a fool would count on 4 healthy years of McNabb

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sooner rather than later

A little vague, but based on some of your other posts I assume you’re not implying that we HAVE to necessarily draft a QB next year (provided McNabb signs an extension). With McNabb, we know we have a QB who can play at an elite level with adequate protection. That wasn’t a sure thing with JC.

by VA_Skin on Aug 25, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have taken

Nate Allen who was taken by the Eagles with the pick we gave up for DM. I also would have been happy with Jimmy Clausen or Terrance Cody. I think the trade for McNabb was the right move to make even tho I am a JC supporter but I can definitely understand smutsboy frustration

by ENsDad27 on Aug 24, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or any of the OL prospects

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or same thing

We have a rookie sitting on IR making one third the amount of the free-agent star sitting on IR. And don’t keep responding that Danny has the money, that money comes from us and when a chucklehead free agent sops a lot of it up, it leaves no money for depth. This has been the Redskins problem ever since Danny took over.

 (Insert Donnio apologist reply here)

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 24, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

your supposed to stick up for Danny

you always do when I blame him for the team’s crappy decade

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Aug 24, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah?

What if that 2nd rounded turns out to be the best player in the draft?

by CJHutch on Aug 25, 2010 1:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's highly unlikely

The first round was deep with talented players this year.

I'm back. YAY SUMMER!

by DCO'sfan on Aug 25, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

FULLBACK?

Anyone know who gets the start at FB this week ? i’m hoping to see more of Morris.

by jkitts84 on Aug 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

morris is listed at TE

it’s gonna be Young or the new guy

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even at TE...

I want to see Morris get some good playing time in…I like how this guy plays even though he hasnt been impressing in camp.

by jkitts84 on Aug 24, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably won't be this one though

with the starters playing most of the game I would think.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reports haven't been favorable for Morris

So you probably won’t see much of him. Unless the coaching staff decide to give him one last chance.

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

c'mon, yer kidding

I SWEAR I read somewhere that Morris was gonna be a beast, supplant Chris Cooley’s, return kicks, play linebacker, solve the energy crisis, fix the economy, and lead the successful habitation of Saturn.

by CJHutch on Aug 25, 2010 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And, apparently,

have LJP for dinner….

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 25, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now do you see

Where listening to LJP gets you?

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

former FB from UNC...

hes 38 so he should fit right in haha

by jkitts84 on Aug 24, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw that

put his ass on the D-Line!

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 24, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn’t work out this week we’re calling up Mack Strong and Alstott

by Parks Smith on Aug 24, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, Mack Strong. greatest name ever

a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon

by eastcoastatlas on Aug 24, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

played for charger, jags, and panthers

P.S. Go Heels!

by jkitts84 on Aug 24, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth....recent tweet from the beat
Donovan McNabb walking around with no wrap, no boot and his uniform pants for his Sunday Night Football shoot here at #Redskins Park.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll take it.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 24, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if, but when...

At least we answered the question. Hopefully its out of McNabb’s system now.

by RobtheRedskin on Aug 25, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Anybody consider that...

Shanny doesn’t want to give Dallas ANYTHING, so he is taking crazy caution with McNabb? HHe is a 6 time pro bowler and has worked really hard. Plat it up and surprise the crap out of the cowmuffs. Rex is going to look like total shit and maybe dumbass wade might take us lighter. Just a thought.

by brettpedigo on Aug 25, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

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