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Looks Like Someone's Got a Sixpack of the Mondays

1) Let me be very clear: I have no sympathy for Albert Haynesworth, and short of a miracle, that will not change. However, Shanahan needs to be a little careful because at some point he could turn Haynesworth into a sympathetic figure. I simply don't know how that could happen anytime soon, but I did hear at least a few calls on the radio this weekend that were actually sympathetic to AH (one was a female caller). Personally, I can't get enough of Shanahan putting Haynesworth in his place. I also don't think Shanny cares at all if anyone feels sorry for Albert. My main concern is if guys in the locker room would ever turn on Shanahan as a result of this. Does it matter? Shanahan has a history of holding his ground, and to be fair, that is something we need in this franchise. What I find laughable today is that Haynesworth continues to talk up his own personal trainer and workout regimen. I mean, he may have lost a few pounds, but come on...he did not report to training camp in great shape. Is he that dumb?

2) Trent Williams got a real taste of the NFL against Terrell Suggs on Saturday night. I spent some time watching that matchup and while Suggs did not beat him 100% of the time, it at least appeared to me that T-Sizzle had his way with the rookie. On 3rd and 1 in the 1st quarter, Suggs bull-rushed Williams 5 yards behind the scrimmage. Larry Johnson was unable to get the first down on the ground. Suggs is one of the best in the business and he was clearly enjoying his assignment. I had the opportunity to watch the Baltimore broadcast of the game and they did a sideline interview with Suggs and McGahee late in the game. Suffice to say, Suggs was feeling his oats. He had the body language and attitude of a guy who was still waiting for someone to step up and give him a challenge before the night is over.

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3) If both the Redskins and Fred Davis are going to be serious about Sleepy's role on special teams, we could be in a for a real treat this season. Now, there is nothing to suggest that Davis won't play teams for the foreseeable future. Whenever Fred is on the field, he is likely to be one of, if not the most, athletic dudes out there. He made a great tackle on punt coverage on one play where I was watching only him. We know that Davis is good enough at tight end to play that position, but with Cooley healthy and quickly becoming a favorite of McNabb, special teams could be a place where Fred Davis dominates for the Redskins. I am looking forward to seeing him run down the field on September 12th and demolishing poor Cowgirls players all night long.

4) John Harbaugh told a Baltimore sideline reporter that the Redskins knew the fake punt was coming. It was very well blocked by the Baltimore punt team and they just about put the ball in the end zone. I wonder if we really "knew" it was coming? After the play was over, the whole stadium kind of shouted, "Zorn!" the way Jerry Seinfeld used to angrily say the word, "Newman!" I will say this for Harbaugh: I 100% believe he will make that same call in the regular season, and just as in this meaningless scrimmage, it will be the difference in the game.

5) I was engaging in a very fun debate with a Ravens fan for much of the 1st half. After agreeing that we both wanted this game to be magically tranported to the middle of November when things are on the line, he expressed a lot of doubt on whether or not McNabb was going to help us at all. On the spot, I called McNabb one of the best 3rd down quarterbacks in the business. As if on cue, McNabb hit Santana Moss deep down the field on a 3rd down play. The pass was accurate but the ball was jarred loose when a Ravens safety put a pretty good lick on Moss. There is a certain sense of confidence I have on 3rd down that I did not have last season. McNabb is going to keep drives alive using his experience and savvy all year long. THAT is going to be fun.

6) Zack Bolno, former Redskins PR man, was abruptly fired this weekend. Zack was great at his job and did his best to accommodate schmucks like Kevin and I. That is even more impressive given how well-respected Zack is in the sports media community. Good luck, Zack. We have no doubt you will be gainfully employed very soon.

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I"m having that same

feeling about 3rd and long. Unfortunately, I’m having the same feeling I had last year about 3rd and short. Why are we the only team in the NFL that cannot run to the left for 1 yd?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 23, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Trent vs Suggs

I thought the same thing but Trent actually played well against Suggs accept for 2-3 plays…unfortunately, 1 of those plays was on 3rd down and that’s what sticks.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the others is when McNabb took a big hit from Suggs coming around the edge, my co-worker said it looked like Trent gave up becuase it looked as if he assumed McNabb had stepped up in the pocket. I don’t remember the play though. I need to get tivo or dvr

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recall that play as well

It looked like Trent thought McNabb was farther forward in the pocket and he just let his man come around behind. It did seem as though Trent gave up on the play, presumably because McNabb was “safe”. He’s never safe Trent, not until the whistle is blown!

by willster on Aug 23, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trent

Said it himself that he thought McNabb had stepped up or released the ball already.

With 9:41 remaining in the half, Williams was beaten on the edge by Suggs, who sacked quarterback Donovan McNabb for a four-yard loss.
“I felt like I had him at good depth I just I thought the quarterback had already released the ball or stepped up,” Williams said. “So I just got to keep playing to the whistle but I felt like I had him blocked.”

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Trent Williams probably did as well against Suggs as 90% of LTs in the league could do. Suggs is just that good. He is going to beat LTs all year. I give Trent Williams a B on this one. He could have done a little bit better, but as a rookie against Suggs, that was a pretty decent effort. The bull rush on the run play shows me that Trent Williams does need to get a little stronger but that will come with time.

by Kurtstack on Aug 23, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOPS!

“Zack was great at his job and did his best to accommodate schmucks like Kevin and I. "

That’s Kevin and ME. (Ya wouldn’t say “…did his best to accomadate a schmuck like I” so “me” is the proper pronoun.)

Just sayin’……

by Tee L on Aug 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a tough place to be a grammar Nazi

Look yourself in the mirror and decide if you really want to put in the time necessary to patrol this blog for incorrect grammar and spelling before you volunteer for that job.

by CarverM on Aug 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

KINDA RESENT....

Not too fond of the word “Nazi”……problem is….kids read this as well as adults….so good grammar would be a plus…..just sayin’

by Tee L on Aug 23, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kids

Grammar just isn’t going to happen around here, LOL.

by Kurtstack on Aug 23, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Kurt, you forgot this was supposed to be an educational blog to teach kids about grammar, mathematics and such…

Tee L how do you criticize grammar then come out with a sentence using "kinda, sayin’, and improper punctuation.

I’ll join Tee L’s quest for proper grammar if he can get washingtonwin to write a post using any sort of punctuation mark, until then simmer down Grammar Gestapo. We’z gonna be talkin however we be feelin likez…

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

excessive use of "...." and "just sayin'"

doesn’t exactly scream proper grammar. And you certainly have your work cut out if you’re going to correct grammar in a blog…..just sayin’

by DoWork on Aug 23, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

exactly

Blogs aren’t for teaching proper spelling and grammar: they are for mugging proper spelling and grammar in a back alley and beating the crap out of it and leaving it to die in a puddle of its own vital fluids.

by willster on Aug 23, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wondered

what I was doing here…? Now I know! :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 23, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I’m just ferocious. I want his heart! I want to eat his children! Praise be to Allah!

I love Mike Tyson…

Were you all trying to do that?

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You tell him Kevin

You be writing good all de time.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I even be readin thez post reel good

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

You forgot the period at the end. Other than that, perfikt english.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said I be readin reel good, not been writin reel good yet.

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I was hoping my line would trigger more Simpsons quotes..ah well.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 23, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

D'oh!

That’s the best I got…

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

LAWDY, MISS SCARLET.....

Didn’t mean to create a tempest in a teapot…but when “I” is used in pace of “me” it’s like fingernails on a blackboard.

As to “just sayin’”…..what can I say?

by Tee L on Aug 23, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

but when "I" is used in pace of "me" it’s like fingernails on a blackboard

Are i and me in a race or something

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got ripped up pretty hard for calling out some grammar, I'll give you that

I say just sayin’ all the time. But it’s not on the heels of an English lesson. Just let the bad grammar roll man, it’s the nature of the beast

by DoWork on Aug 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Kevin, you been using the spellz check, right?

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't you mean
Ya wouldn’t say

YOU wouldn’t say?

Contractions are not used in proper writing either, if you want to be a real stickler.

by CarverM on Aug 23, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Lord
The Jets and Revis are $40 million apart in negotiations. He says the Jets are offering $122 million over 10 years, and that Revis wants $162 million over 10 years.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Reports-on-Revis-Wants-162-million-will-sign-?urn=nfl-264542

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 23, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Somebody needs to seriously enlighten him

He’s not satisfied with making $12.2 million a year? How greed can you be? Sigh…

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, that's true

I can’t fathom how anybody would be able to clothe and feed their family while making a penny less than $12.2 million a year. I know I wouldn’t be able to… The Jets should be ashamed of themselves for being so cheap.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

How greedy can you be?

I certainly don’t want to get on Tee L’s bad side.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Greedy? It's called real life.

Make all the money you can. It’s not like he’s putting people out of work by making that money.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a fine line..

He’s on the greedy side in my opinion. He was under contract to play football. Now he’s refusing to play football under his contract because he believes he’s worth more. Which, realistically, he is. However, there has to be a happy medium. They’re re-upping his contract substantially but he’s still holding out and hurtins his team over what most people see as excessive money. He’s doing it for pride and wanting to be paid more than Nnamdi Alphabet, poor form in my opinion

by DoWork on Aug 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

I’d want to make all the money I could while in the NFL as well. But, at some point, it gets to be a little ridiculous. He’s pretty much saying that making $12.2 million a year isn’t enough for him, and by my standards, that’s just being greedy.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are assigning ego explanations for his behavior

I think it’s simply a matter of him trying to get every dollar he can. I have no problem with it whatsoever.

These guys kill themselves (sometimes literally) for this game, they should get every dollar they can.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure anyone that refers to themselves as Revis Island has a pretty big ego.

by Parks Smith on Aug 23, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think he is trying to get every dollar he can, but regardless, when someone turns down $122 million, they’re being greedy. I don’t care what that person does for a living, $12.2 million a year should be way more than enough for any human being and their family to live off of. Plus, anyone that turns down a $122 million contract and demands a $162 million contract instead, sounds as if they have a pretty big ego in my opinion.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he doesn't have an ego, b/c he clearly does

But it’s not at all clear to me that he wants more money b/c of ego and not simply b/c he wants every dollar he can get out of his employer, just like the rest of us. If you or I could hold out for a massive raise, knowing that at worst we go work for another company, we’d all do it too.

$12.2 million a year should be way more than enough for any human being and their family to live off of

Not really a relevant metric when it comes to negotiating your value within an organization.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not really seeing your point

Are you saying most of us wouldn’t be happy with 12.2 million a year? Because I certainly would. That is a massive raise. No man who plays a game for a living is worth more than that, nobody how dangerous the game is. How about the people doing jobs that actually benefit the world? Do you think they would actually complain about getting 12.2 mil a year? I don’t think so.

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by DCO'sfan on Aug 23, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

whether it is 122 million or 162 million…it is a smoke screen. i remember when the jets were talking about offering a 100 million contract. they are filled with performance bonuses that are unlikely to be met.

both sides are focusing on the guaranteed portion of the contract. does anyone know where they are on that? that is what matters.

by les boulez bomber on Aug 23, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

People should be paid what they're worth. What they can get in negotiations.

That’s how capitalism works.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you or I could hold out for a massive raise… we’d all do it too.

I guess my main point is that he’s already getting a massive raise with the $122 million contract, but that massive raise isn’t good enough for him evidentially, and he needs (in his opinion) an even more massive raise. I completely agree with getting all of the money you can, while you can. But at what point do you become greedy?

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you put someone else out of work. Or steal. You know, something immoral.

But driving a hard bargain is not greedy or immoral.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll just have to agree to disagree

I define greed as wanting and/or going after more than what you truly need or require.

by bigrm18 on Aug 24, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you greedy?

Could you live on less than what you’re making now?

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's a very nebulous and difficult standard to judge by.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 25, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I greedy?

Yes, I can be at times. I think we all are or have been somewhat greedy at some point, but not to the extent that I am fairly being offered millions of dollars yet am still unsatisfied. I think Revis is taking his greed to another level.

Would I be able to live on less than what I’m making now?

It depends on how much less of course, but I’m living comfortably so to speak as of right now. I pretty much make just enough money to live the way I feel I need to live. I’m not poor, nor am I struggling, but I certainly am not rich. I do know that Revis is making much more money than I am and could certainly live on less than he’s making right now.

Based on this definition of “greedy”

excessively or inordinately desirous of wealth, profit, etc.

I’d have to say that Revis is being excessively desirous of wealth. And by my standards, Revis (and his agent of course) is being greedy at this point. If that’s not how you feel then I completely understand.

by bigrm18 on Aug 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is not putting people out of work. he is taking from the pie that feeds 52 others lol

by les boulez bomber on Aug 23, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

He also has to feed his agent. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 24, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with him?

That’s a ridiculous amount of money. Money is status and I think Revis thinks too highly of himself rather than the team. He wants a to have a bigger contract than Asomugha and to him that signifies he’s the best DB in the league. Honestly, there are people out there who need it more than he does.

by TerpsAllTheWay on Aug 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. That's not how capitalism works. And I don't say that as a diehard capitalist.
Honestly, there are people out there who need it more than he does.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no capitalism when a union is involved, the owners collude, and a salary cap exist. do not kid yourself on that one =)

by les boulez bomber on Aug 23, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I right that he's not likely to ever collect most

of the out-year money (assuming it’s not guaranteed)? They could give him $50 million the last (10th) year – anything he wants, and he’d never see it. Anybody know if that’s correct?

by Donnio1234 on Aug 23, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes…and that is how the contract ballooned from a 100 million contract to a 122 million contract to now a 162 million contract. the guarantee portion is the majority of the value. the timing of the payments and realistic performance bonuses are other considerations. but like many would be, they want to KNOW what they will be paid if they are going to roid up, shrivel their peckers, and play hurt for the team.

by les boulez bomber on Aug 23, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

It would be so much better if writers simply told us what the guaranteed portions were. That’s the only part that matters.

But lower numbers don’t get as many clicks.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know why Balno got fired....

Seems there was a bit of blowback from the Hall of Fame induction… Balno somehow let two clowns harass Joe Gibbs (they even somehow came to the party with him). Dan Snyder said that he’s not going to let folks harass Joe.

At least, that’s the rumor going around.

by BillWard on Aug 23, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Just what I was thinking...

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 23, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Oh man…we are going to get so many people fired.

by Ken Meringolo on Aug 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

I saw a picture of the two clowns posing with Gibbs. Gibbs looked pretty uncomfortable standing next to the both of them. I say we setup a search party to find those two ass wipes.

by bigrm18 on Aug 23, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tar and Feather time!

And I bet Bolno will join in helping get the oil boiling.

by BillWard on Aug 23, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suggs might have beat up on Williams, but if you look at it in a completely irrelevant (but fun) way, Okung is hurt for the next 4 weeks.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Aug 23, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I was scared by Williams' performance

Then i remembered it’s his 2nd time ever seeing NFL speed, at one of the hardest positions to play.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 23, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol…great post…and he didnt he hold out and was the last to sign?

by les boulez bomber on Aug 23, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first team run defense.

If you subtract out the 51 yards on the trick special teams play, the first teams run defense was OK. Excluding the ST run, the Ravens had 94 yards on 28 carries or about 4 yards per carry for the whole game.

by Jefferson1935 on Aug 23, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

this remind me

of when shanny took over denver we had a num 1 wr named antothy miller and him and shanny bumped heads shanny got rid of him went to the cowboys never played well again i say cut haystwouth or trade him to minn for a 5 round pick jimmy kennedy

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by j-man on Aug 24, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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