Redskins Training Camp Day 5 Recap
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 2, 2010 12:20 PM EDT
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PrintShanahan made a comment after practice today that the first week of camp is "chaotic", so read into these updates as you want. I really could care less about Haynesworth because let's be honest, he's not making it through this season healthy. Haynesworth ran three 25-yard shuttles this morning before he had to stop due to knee irritations.
From what it looks like, Rex has a comfortable lead over Colt Brennan as the #2 QB, and in which case Shanny will only carry 2 QBs, which makes sense. Why use an extra roster spot on a below average QB?
Shanahan still confident Haynesworth will pass and get in "football shape." Noted how he posted good time on his first sprint last Thurs @RickMaese
Shanahan on whether this Haynesworth conditioning thing could eventually just be bagged: "Possibly." @Rich_Campbell
Shanahan very impressed by Portis and Rex so far. Says Larry & Willie came in great shape. @Russellmania09
Landry and Rogers blitzed from.different sides on an 11-on-11 third down play. It helped force an incompletion. @Rich_Campbell
Kevin Barnes pulls down Larry Johnson on a run to the left. Impressive tackle by Barnes on a big RB. @RedskinsDotCom
Grossman underthrows another deep ball, this one intercepted by Tryon. Grossman has had a good camp so far, but the arm strength isn't there @Rich_Campbell
Shanahan on if Portis can still break long runs; I sure hope so;if not he won't be our RB. @john_keim
Shanahan says Portis is weighing about 218 pounds. He's looked good. Portis said earlier he's pleased with line in front of him @RickMaese
OL coach Chris Foerster on the state of the unit: "It's a process." @Rich_Campbell
It's nice that we no longer have a QB controversy, so I guess we can make one for the RBs. So many of us, myself included, have said "Portis is done." It might just be possible that it was Gibbs' mistake to beef him up as a Riggins' type of RB, which failed further in Zorn's WCO and Cerrato's negligence to build the Oline. Just like we say for most of our players each year, "this is their last year to make or break."
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Grossman has never really had that strong of an arm. Always been decent but not great at those types of throws.
Good to hear that Landry is playing good as well. Same goes for Portis.
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And with the Beck trade, maybe we can ditch Rex for good (fingers crossed).
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by matthiasstephan on Aug 2, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Grossman was always known for having a big arm?
I’ll admit though, I didn’t really care about him in Chicago, but I remember his Madden rating had him as the strongest arm in the league. Just sayin…
Yeah Portis was never a good fit for Gibbs offense
But he and the OL were talented enough to make it work.
Portis was a prototypical one-cut runner with elite agility, vision, and power for his size.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
interesting comments about AH. glad to see shanahan is not welded to the idea that he has to pass and at some point just might consider it over. it kinda makes me continue to believe that this is not just about conditioning and wants to see AH at a certain comfort level with the defense before getting him out there. it also makes me wonder, if he cant run without pads and contact without pain, is it really a good idea to have him in full blown practice? he sounds like an injury waiting to happen. which is a shame…s t r e t c h !!!
by les boulez bomber on Aug 2, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not so worried about Portis'
Legs and motor. I’m more worried about his head, i hope they beefed up the padding in his helmet. Once a concussion case, always a concussion case.
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by rictorcreed on Aug 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Unfortunately while those help
Concussions are still very common.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
The doctor we spoke with at NFLPA
Said they’re close to having a helmet that will prevent these head injuries. 5 years away.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 2, 2010 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For the players' sake I hope they keep improving them.
But as Malcolm Gladwell wrote in his seminal article, risky play constantly evolves to the edge of safety. Meaning that if stronger helmets are made which reduce concussions, players are going to hit harder and take more risks. It’s an eternal cat and mouse game.
Also, to a certain extent, it’s not really possible to prevent concussions from high impact, all you can do is try to reduce the effect. Even if the helmet prevents your head from hitting the inside of the helmet, or softens the blow against someone’s knee or helmet, your brain still hits against the inside of your skull. There’s almost no physical way to prevent your brain moving around in your skull.
Safety improvements are welcome, but there are fundamental concussion dangers given how the sport is currently played. Dangers that no technology can fix.
Note: all of the opinion above is taken directly from Malcolm Gladwell’s article last year.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I liked that Gladwell article alot
And as someone who has racked up about 8 concussions himself I follow those stories closely.
by BayAreaBullet on Aug 2, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there a limit
To how hard a player can actually hit? I mean, these guys go full out 110% of the time (players not named T.O. or Randy Moss), so at some point the whole mass x acceleration formula has to level out and allow technology to exceed the predictable dangers. There may be a pure Gears of War Locust type monster player one day, but that would never be the norm.
AH
It’s good to hear Shanny might be flexible, and that he realizes that Albert did do pretty well on the test the first day. But AH shouldn’t practice for awhile anyway, with the knee. So for now, just be cool, try to get AH’s knee OK, try to pass the test or get close, then let him play. Meanwhile, study like crazy. Sort of “dial down” all the AH stuff. Meanwhile, my guy Colt looks like “toast”. Too bad, probably too many injuries wore him down.
Only 2 QB roster spots
Given D-Nab’s injury history and Rex’s suck history, and a patchwork in the works o-line that could still resemble an ongoing Oklahoma drill for the quarterbacks, it’s as if this team is doomed to carry 3 QB’s. I’d love to think that that extra spot can go towards keeping Torain on the roster or more depth on the D-line, but is that really possible or even smart?
This is actually a great post idea.
I’ll take it up as my weekly debate with the Redskins beat writer.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 3, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Depth Chart: Washington Redskins
http://www.kffl.com/nfldc.php/37/nfl is taking their shot at the Skins’ depth chart. They are already reflecting the acquisition of John Beck at QB. They are showing a backup for all positions except RG. I have seen Lichtensteiger at LG in second team drills, but they are showing Edwin Williams. Rob Jackson is seen as #2 at OLB but it looks like Alexander and Carter are the main competitors for that position. IMO, Rob Jackson is likely to be cut.
John Keim has more to say about his training camp observation in Studs and Duds.
“OG Chad Rinehart. The Rhino! Yes, he’s actually looked fairly solid the past two days. Nothing stands out so much as nothing bad is going on with him. I haven’t seen him screw up and that’s a good start. He’s showing decent footwork and is maintaining leverage. Saw him stop Jeremy Jarmon when the latter tried a bull rush. Also drove out Maake Kemoeatu on a zone block.”
On duds he had comments on Heyer, Robinson, and Capers as well.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Studs-and-Duds-8310-99859079.html?utm_source=feedburner+Redskins-Confidential&utm_medium=feed+Redskins+Confidential&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Redskins-Confidential+%28Redskins+Confidential%29%24%7Bdistribu&utm_content=%24%7BdistributionCha&utm_term=feed%24%7Bdistributi
by Jefferson1935 on Aug 3, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If Rhino stopped sucking that would be huge.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
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