Fat Albert Missing 3rd Straight Practice with Dehydration
by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 9:54 AM EDT
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PrintWhat a way to spend the last day of training camp - on the sidelines. Haynesworth for the 3rd day in a row won't practice because of "dehydration." I went to MayoClinic.com to get the medical treatment for dehydration:
You can usually reverse mild to moderate dehydration by increasing your intake of fluids, but severe dehydration needs immediate medical treatment. The safest approach is prevention of dehydration. Monitor your fluid loss during hot weather, illness or exercise, and drink enough liquids to replace what you lose.
That last line is what gets me. Haynesworth has sat out practices before even attempting them. How does one get dehydrated when they exert zero energy? To Haynesworth's defense, maybe he is doing weight room work, but that can't be a reason for dehydration since it's air-conditioned and there are water fountains everywhere. I mean, not even 5 minutes on the practice field?
Perhaps Haynesworth is a nut for yard work. After a grueling practice of film study, he puts 3 hours into yard work each day...with one of those old school, blade-only, push mowers. I can picture him now: towel on head, on one-knee, trying to scoop and bag grass.
What's so hard about giving this guy an IV bag? Rock-stars have to be 30 times more dehydrated than football players. They're on stages with fire and are hydrating with bourbon and cocaine, yet they go out the next day no problem!
OK, ok, he's 340 pounds. I get it. Fat guys are more prone to this. But really? You don't think something stinks in all this mess? Perhaps the knee is acting up again. I can't imagine how Zorn would be handling all this, but Shanahan is doing the right thing just down-playing. I'll hold judgement until the Ravens game but dehydration from standing on the side of a field for 3 days with a top-notch training staff at his disposal doesn't add up.
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I heard Haslett has a phone book
I guess this is the Kindergarten version for #92.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Let it be
if they’re not worried about it, I won’t trip off it.
It’s getting tiring trying to be pissed at him. He’s here, he’s gonna play. Let’s do it
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
by Rekka on Aug 19, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I've had enough
But if he preforms on Sunday I’ll let it go, if he doesn’t…..
by Jedi Mind Kicks on Aug 19, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin next time before you write crap like this we should take you to Redskins Park in a 350 lb sumo suit in 300% humidity in August and have you follow around Big Al and see whose pee is more yellow at the end of the day.
I actually ran the 2 70-yard shuttles in a sumo suit with Ken and Mike Prada of SBN
We didn’t post it b/c he passed the test the next day and the joke was tired anyway. It was blistering hot and we actually passed the test. The suit wasn’t 300 pounds but my mobility was definitely restricted.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
2 70 yard shuttles?
The typical conditioning test, which I’m pretty sure that Al did, was 6×25 yard shuttles (down and back makes 300 yards), rest for a period of time and then do it again. Not sure what you did in the suit, but it wasn’t the conditioning test.
sorry..i misspoke there
We did the 25 yard shuttles over 70 seconds. It was the same test.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hello Mrs. Haynesworth!
Glad you could make it to the site to check up on your boy.
Seriously, are you dating him, pas? The dude has jerked the team around the entire offseason, missed every voluntary camp AND the mandatory ones and you’re saying he’s done all he’s been asked to do? Then the protracted fitness test (sure looked like he was trying to weasel out), the sore knee (again, appearance of weaseling) and now dehydration (weaselicious). He took the money, and he’s not busting his hump for it. That alone should be enough to earn at least a frown and shake of the head from every ’Skins fan.
In short, Kev and Ken do a hell of a job here, and AH missing practice (again) appears (again) to be (again) evidence of his poor work ethic. If you don’t like that, call Al tomorrow and try to motivate him, but there’s no need to attack HH for reporting what many, many fans are feeling.
Did anyone say his job was easy?
No. His job is hard. That doesn’t mean he has an excuse to half-ass it.
And make no mistake, he has been half-assing it for a long time. The conditioning test wasn’t that hard, but it took him forever to pass because he was half-assing it. And missing multiple consecutive days because of dehydration is as ridiculous as it sounds. If he’s severely dehydrated, he needs to be in a hospital on an IV. If he’s not, he needs to drink more water and get on the damn field.
I think it’s becoming popular here at HH to talk about how overblown the AH coverage is, and bash the AH-bashing. But the fact is that our highest paid player, and a player who could be a key part of our defense and a leader, has put out almost zero effort and has spent almost no time on the practice field with his teammates.
Bored and broke.
Have to say
I’m far more concerned about Silverback doing 90 mph in a 55. That’s pretty piss poor judgment. I’d hate to see a promising young LT get stupid with money and success. Shanny will take care of Haynesworth just like he’s been doing.
fat fuck
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by eastcoastatlas on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
twitter update from a few secs ago after practice ended....
Albert Haynesworth still out on the practice field working with D-line coach Jacob Burney.
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As a former combat medic that served in Iraq...
I can tell you dehydration is no joke, nor is it as simple to counter as the mayo clinic suggests. When you sweat you lose vital nutrients like sodium and potassium which when lost in high enough amounts can cause organs to be severely damaged or fail altogether. An IV will help replenish fluids and nutrients, however it is not an instant cure, and usual treatment after an IV consists of several days of rest and plenty of water and juices. Most likely this is the case with Albert, the training staff is probably taking a well advisable preventative approach. So this is probably a non issue.
Every time you lose you die a little; not all of your organs, a portion of you; maybe just your liver. ~~ George Allen
by rictorcreed on Aug 19, 2010 12:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You are most likely right....
But the fag that tries to write for this site has some sick obsession with getting Haynesworth off the team.
by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want him off the team
I just want him to do something….anything. 8 months of nothing and he’s still going strong.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love for him to something
Just not at the risk of injury or worse for practice, I’m betting he’ll play against the ravens. I’m wondering if he might be taking weight loss supplements in his quest to play end. It could explain the sudden dehydration, just hope of he is, he’s checking the list of banned substances.
Every time you lose you die a little; not all of your organs, a portion of you; maybe just your liver. ~~ George Allen
by rictorcreed on Aug 19, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd love for him to do something
Just not at the risk of injury or worse for practice, I’m betting he’ll play against the ravens. I’m wondering if he might be taking weight loss supplements in his quest to play end. It could explain the sudden dehydration, just hope of he is, he’s checking the list of banned substances.
Every time you lose you die a little; not all of your organs, a portion of you; maybe just your liver. ~~ George Allen
by rictorcreed on Aug 19, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's an interesting thought
and yes, he’d better check if he is. After all, it was a weight loss supplement that landed Jarmon in the supplemental draft. Not to mention the Williams’ and all the StarCaps bullcrap.
I don’t know what your bitching about or expecting to see out of him. He’s a DT, he’s not flashy and he’s not going to put up huge #‘s. In just 12 games last year he had his third most sacks ever and fourth most tackles. You knew he was injury prone coming into DC, so its not like we should be surprised that he’s injured. O and he deflected more passes last year than any other year of his career.
The media make him out to be the worst Redskins ever and you just buying into that. Who cares that he hasn’t practiced in a few days? Plenty of others have not that may be even more vital to the squad (Brown), but they get no coverage. And absolutely none of us are at practice and a medical expert on whats going on with Albert.
All I care about is that he’s ready to go on 9/12. Until then, leave him alone!
I don’t know what your bitching about or expecting to see out of him.
Participation. It’s that simple. Ma’ake is bigger than him and coming off an Achilles injury and he’s out there playing…practically every day. He’s arguably in worse shape too.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Ma'ake is better than most think.
He’s started a lot of games in the NFL and has never been a part of a truly atrocious defense. He’s been on a lot of good ones, though.
I've seen several times where Ma'ake isn't practicing
because of heat exhaustion or other things. Even today I see that he’s out with a shoulder problem.
Albert Haynesworth still out on the practice field working with D-line coach Jacob Burney.
Thats not participation? I just don’t get why there is a disparaging post from you about Albert almost everyday. What else do you want him to do, its not like he’s sitting back in Tennessee eating twinkies, he came to camp on time and has done everything that he has been asked. Are you on the Redskins training squad or something and have some inside knowledge? Do you have a PhD I don’t know about?
He came to camp in time and performed on a high level last Friday night and then went on to say all the right things in his post game presser? So you’re not content with him doing what he is asked and advised by the coaching staff and trainers, and then performing on a high level during the game and performing admirably after?
What do you want from him for real, to shit gold bricks? You can’t compare his situation to Ma’ake b/c one there two totally seperate human beings with two seperate bodies and medical history, and two you have no knowledge to base your assumptions about who is in shape and who is out of shape.
how about act like a team leader and show up all offseason like the rest of the guys making 1/100th his salary
or how about show up on time or at all for a mandatory mini-camp, or be in shape enough to pass a fitness exam when he does none of the above. Fat Al makes this team better, but he brought all this negative press on himself… and there’s nothing else to talk about so why not have a little fun with the guy that made us squirm all offseason.
Yea but we knew that we getting this kind of player when we signed him, its who he is, he’s never going to come to voluntary camps. So whats the point of beating a dead horse on a player that has a checkered past with not the best practice/work ethic but performs on a high level on game day.
Once again did he look in shape on Friday night?
no he didn't look in shape friday
If he was in shape he would be destroying second stringers and getting pressure every down, if he was in shape then he is the best defensive linemen in the league and guess what that means he should consistantly destroy second and third string o-line men on the buffalo bills… so Once again NO he doesn’t look in shape to me.
and don’t give me the we knew who we were getting, we knew what we were paying for the best d-linemen in the game, what we got wasn’t the same thing. We have 100 million reasons to be hard on the guy regardless of his past, he promised to come in and make the skins better and he didn’t even come in to MANDATORY CAMP
Wow...totally uncalled for.
Every time you lose you die a little; not all of your organs, a portion of you; maybe just your liver. ~~ George Allen
by rictorcreed on Aug 19, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+2
And especially so, because fags and bitches hate the truth.
by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 19, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rictorcreed - Right -
Kevin reports, adding to our knowledge. So what if a little attitude shows through? It doesn’t bother me and probably not Albert or Shanahan. Your comment about supplements is a little worrisome – I hope Albert isn’t doing anything drastic to lose weight. He should concentrate on strength and stamina now. Maybe he doesn’t like being called “Fat Albert”. By the way, about him playing end: it seemed like a no brainer to me, but now, looking at the solid, deep talent at DE and relative weakness at NT (pretty much dependent on Kemoeatu, who isn’t looking that good), it could be that he will be forced to play NT quite a bit, unless and until Haslett starts relying less and less on a conventional 3-4, and more on multiple sets, including a lot of the 4-3.
AGREED
It’s one thing to keep beating the dead horse issue of Albert skipping OTAs but quite another to dismiss out of hand the training staff’s recommendations.
If he decides to play, AH can really help this team. I’m pulling for the guy.
(On the other hand, if I were Malcom Kelly, I’m not sure I’d make any long term commitments in the D.C. area. After reading his driving record I guess we know why he has this lingering hamstring problem….he has a LEAD FOOT. He also seems to have a complete disregard for the law….)
by Tee L on Aug 19, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think
you’re confusing Fred Davis with Malcolm Kelly
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
NOPE
According to court records, Kelly did not show up for that date, which involved three misdemeanor traffic charges in Fairfax County.
When asked, Shanahan would not say whether Kelly’s absence from practice Thursday was linked to the outstanding charges.
Cited for erratic lane change in Herndon on July 7, Kelly faced a $200 fine that was past due, according to court records. He also was cited for not having a driver’s license during that same traffic stop.
Kelly also had to answer to a charge from a previous traffic stop. In April, he was cited for failing to obey a highway sign. He didn’t show up for a May 13 hearing on that charge. During that same stop, he was cited for driving with a suspended or revoked license, which was settled nolle prosequi, which means charges will not be pursued at this time.
Kelly’s driving record in Northern Virginia is far from stellar. In the past 18 months alone, he’s been cited twice for failure to obey highway signs, twice for speeding and once for driving with a tinted or smoked windshield, according to Loudon County records.
I guess
I lumped them all in together (Davis and kelly).
For some reason, i completely glanced over the fact that the charges were for different people.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
NO WORRIES....
Easy mistake to make….no worries….difference SEEMS to be that Davis & WIlliams are able to work. If I were their age and could afford their cars, I’d rack up tickets, too, I guess…..but Kelly has shown NOTHING but potential….and a propensity to skip court dates. You or I do that and we get LOCKED UP!
Man who cried wolf
If I actually believed he was dehydrated I’m be sympathetic. But it’s Haynesworth, he’s just got a bad case of laziness.
by Jedi Mind Kicks on Aug 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tee L - Albert gives 150% when he plays - all out
What’s that about Malcolm’s driving record? Being a bit of a speeder doesn’t mean he has complete disregard for the law. It means he’s a young man.
SPEEDING, NO...FAILURE TO APPEAR? YES
He now has FTA’d TWICE!
The next time he appears
he may disappear for a while.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
AH Dehydration
It appears Shanahan understands the situation. His tough stance earlier lets him be cool now.
Ken and I were just IM'ing and he brought up an interesting point..
What if Shanny is sitting Albert b/c a trade is imminent? Sitting players like this to avoid injury is a norm. Far-fetched perhaps.
Granted…I don’t know why #92 bothers me so much…probably b/c all his teammates squashed all the summer-long crap from the major media (PFT, ESPN, etc) that if he came to camp in shape all is good. Well, he didn’t, and still isn’t…so that’s what fires me up. None of the players have publicly defended him the last 2 weeks I’ve heard…so, to me it’s like a duck on water….everything appears normal above the surface, but under the scene….the legs are flapping a mile a minute.
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How do you know what kind of shape he’s in? He looked like he was in pretty good shape Friday night during the GAME!
And great post by the way, two totally irresponsible rumors have been started now A) that he’s being traded and B) he’s on weight loss supplements…
I didn't start any rumors...
I never mentioned supplements and I simply said in a comment that Ken mentioned it as a possibility…which I then followed up with as ‘far-fetched.’
Haynesworth played ~10 plays if I’m not mistaken. Yes, I’m coming down hard on him, but we should…he gave up on this team (asking for a trade after he accepted the fat check w/ the agreement he’s w/ this team), skipping ALL workouts, and then his dopey TN trainer saying he’s in the best shape of his life right before camp. I’m entitled to my opinion that this guy is a fraud. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it….but it doesn’t take a doctor to realize Haynesworth isn’t all there.
If I’m wrong, I will of course post a story praising his stats. I’ve been hard on Heyer all summer and he looked very solid on Saturday, and I gave him props.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I’m coming down hard on him
I’ll hold judgement until the Ravens game
Your judgement is far gone there is no coming back… If you were holding your judgement until the Ravens game then their may have been a blurb on how Haynesworth missed practice b/c of perceived dehydration and headaches, and not mention cheeseburgers and go after him. You don’t think the NFL trainers aren’t taking headaches and head injuries very seriously these days?
He might not play on Saturday I'm hearing
And I do take heat injuries seriously. The Korey Stringer death still rings true and is still as sad today as it was almost 10 years ago. My criticism was that Al couldn’t even participate in first drills at 8am when it’s still relatively cool out.
I don’t get why Shanny wouldn’t come out and say it if that was the case. We’d all give him a pass for sure and we can avoid all this. The first day on this streak they said it was a sickness and Shanny wasn’t sure what exactly was up. I have not passed judgement on Al…as many people said here, if LBs are blowing by him for sacks consistently week 1, then I’ll make my public apology….it’ll just suck if this goes on all-season…which it sounds like it will…if he even ever plays.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the "fact" that he is to be traded
the reason he seems so happy/content? – at least be AH standards? I don’t like the way this is going…damn! Just when I thought things were smoothing out and we would have a force on D this year. Of course, we do tend to overthink these things a bit, oui?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
All this AH stuff....
I’d love to get more info on how the WR corps is doing – who is stepping up, looking good, etc., O-line updates, basically anything useful in getting my hopes all stirred up that Lombardi’s hunk of metal finds a new home at FedEx. AH will be AH. Either he performs when the season starts, or Shanny finds a suitable replacement and Haslett builds around the adjustment. Dehydration issues in August do happen.
by gopens44 on Aug 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I have a post coming out tonight for the 5 winners from camp
It’s a keg of Kool-aid.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Whew, there's a lot of hate on this one today...
I think Haynesworth set himself up for the shit-storm that follows him around day by day. Of course it’s a non-story when Kemo misses practice — we’re looking at apples and oranges here — It would be a non-story when Haynesworth didn’t practice IF he had been at the manditory mini camps and IF he had passed his conditioning test right away.
I personally like all the updates because I don’t get much news on the practices and what not out here (I live in cowdung country -Nooooo, seriously though, it’s terrible…)
Anyway I have been enjoying the Kool-aid a lot here lately so I’m looking forward to the 5 winners post!
HTTR!
From Redskin's.com camp report this morning
— 11:05 a.m. ET
Haynesworth Still On the Field
The majority of players have either gone into the locker room or hosted media sessions after practice.
A few, such as Graham Gano and Reed Doughty, are signing autographs.
And then there’s Albert Haynesworth, working on the far field with defensive line coach Jacob Burney. This has become a familiar site at training camp.
I guess they only get to sign autographs
when noone else is out. Not exactly the point I was getting at.
He's going to be hungry
the ’Girls better make sure their helmets are strapped on tight.
by CarverM on Aug 19, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AH - in shape?
Some here keep saying Albert is not in shape, despite the weight loss. They took the whole test flap as proof that he wasn’t in football shape. Effectively saying it was a good test, if you passed it you were in shape, if not, you weren’t. Well, he not only passed it, he aced it – 66 and 70 seconds, vs a required 70 and 73 seconds. So if you believe the test, he must be OK. Actually, I don’t think the test was that important. I don’t really know what shape he’s in, but I’d guess it’s good enough to play. I don’t know what’s going on with the dehydration. As one poster mentioned above, taking two or three days to recover from a case of dehydration isn’t that unusual, especially when it comes to violent physical activity in the heat. So it’s a mystery, and unfortunate if he misses a game, but I’m content to let Shanahan handle it.
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