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Quick Observations: Redskins Run up the Bills

First and foremost, I have to give some props to Stephon Heyer, who started as RT for the injured Jammal Brown. I focused on the former Terrapin hard throughout the first half of the Bills game and he held his own against third year LB, Chris Ellis, on several plays. On Keiland Williams' 2-yard TD, he pushed Ellis back and followed through. Hicks and Kory Lichtensteiger also had good pushes. Fred Davis got pushed backwards some, but ended up holding his own.

Anthony Armstrong had a great first half as well. He looked taller than his listed 5'11 height, but he was making blocks down field and of course pulled in that 4 yard TD pass from McNabb.

I also noticed that Chris Cooley lined up as the left tight end on multiple plays. The players have been saying it all training camp, but Kyle Shanahan is going to exploit a lot of mismatches moving guys around. 

There's a lot to like at the box score besides the points. The Redskins were 12-19 in 3rd down efficiency, 4-4 in red zone efficiency, 36:21 in time of possession, and had 0 turnovers. Pretty amazing for a 1st pre-season game with a new regime. Two of those Rex Grossman passes should have been picked off, so we'll see how he fares against the Ravens and then the Jets and those top-tier backs.

Lendy Holmes led all players with 7 tackles (5 solo), 1 pass defended, and 1 INT. Tryon had a decent 4 tackles (3 solo) with 2 passes defended. 

Josh Bidwell eased my punting fears averaging 42.7 yards on his 6 punts and landing 3 inside the 20. 

Star-divide

Lastly, I have to talk about Joe Theismann as a TV analyst. Here are two of his quotes that drove me nuts:

"Reed Doughty on defense reminds me of Rex Grossman on offense."

Say what? That makes no sense and if I was Reed Doughty I think I'd be upset. Then, on a first replay of a stuffed run Theismann was quick to praise Haynesworth:

"Watch Haynesworth on this play!!! (replay comes)...oh..he got caught up. But that allowed Perry Ellis to come in...I mean Perry Riley."

Nice. Up next is the always tough Ravens...

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Fun and irrelevant fact:

I played left tackle against Chris Ellis in high school.

by CarverM on Aug 17, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

nice

the real test is still this weekend though

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Too bad Sergio Kindle fell down the stairs—that would be a nice story as well as good practice for our OL.

by CarverM on Aug 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did he sign your lunchbox?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

but he did a pretty good job of eating my lunch.

by CarverM on Aug 17, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Presumably did

not resemble Lassie, either…? :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 17, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha I missed this part before I posted

Yeah, I remember a bootleg where I turned around and he just crushed me. He was a monster, big #49.. We played against Jerod Mayo too..

by DoWork on Aug 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was last week already.

Get over it.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 17, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha whoops...

I was in a band once called Lunchbox from Hell (screwed that post up, but good)

by MagicHat on Aug 17, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lunchbox

or it didn’t happen

Bored and broke.

by ThaRak on Aug 17, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Perry Riley hit was awesome.

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I think my game ball might go to Josh Bidwell

he was booming them

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Some of my observations:

(watched the game again last night)
- Santana Moss was lining up in the slot on a lot of plays.
- They really liked moving the TEs from one side to the other, getting coverage reads and setting mismatches. They even ran to the weak side once or twice after moving the TE.
- Austin’s route-running and quick catching (really nice slant) put him above the other two small rookies.
- Banks’ return, while pretty, was terrible coverage by the Bills. His speed is obvious, but he needs to show some receiving to make it on the 53.
- That opening kickoff was a line drive. I don’t see many kickoffs like that, and I’m sure Thomas wasn’t expecting it either.
-

Two of those Rex Grossman passes should could have been picked off
That TD to Davis was a risky throw, but he put it in the perfect spot.
- Torain runs really upright. Something looks kind of slow-motion about him. Williams too.

by SSBlitz on Aug 17, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

nice observations....

I missed the game, I should have TiVo’d it but I thought I would be watching (was actually hoping to be there until about 36 hours before gametime.

by MagicHat on Aug 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It should have been picked off

that throw to Davis was all kinds of silly. The ONLY reason it didn’t get picked off was the Bills’ CB misjudged it. That had Pick-6 written all over it.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some notes from camp today

- Haynesworth sat out with heat exhaustion…towerl over head. To reporters: “Ask the coach. I have no comment.”
- Portis got banged up on a hit (wrist) but returned and was joking.
- After 5 straight false starts, Shanny called a team huddle and laid into them for 5 minutes about concentration.
- SI’s Peter King is at Redskins Park today, so his post should be coming shortly

Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

shoot me.
- SI’s Peter King is at Redskins Park today, so his post should be coming shortly

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 17, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just awesome
After 5 straight false starts, Shanny called a team huddle and laid into them for 5 minutes about concentration

5 minute tirade vs 30 second “stay medium” I love it!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 17, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Be prepared to watch the Cleveland Steamers rip them to shreds. Fuck Baltimore.

by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't they lose both their CBs for the year already?

Dawan Landry & Ed Reed are very good (when healthy)

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 17, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

key part is when healthy

Reed’s out for the first 6 regular season games isn’t he?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, is he?

Personally I’d say the Ravens are hit by injuries in the secondary, not “they don’t have good DBs”

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're saying the six weeks was just a guess by some media person

but he is hurting right now, and no one has a clue as to when he’ll be back.

Link

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear about Heyer

Stephon Heyer is a guy who had a hell of a 1st year when he was replacing Jon Jansen with injuries. He had a bit of a rough streak with Zorn, but he really seems like a good player at the core. I think he’d be better inside at guard, but I definitely know he should make it in the NFL.

by BigOLinemen on Aug 17, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

There were a couple plays where Williams was just beating on his defender.

Ball was gone and he’s still giving blows to the head. Beautiful.

by SSBlitz on Aug 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the kind of stuff that

happens when you have competition for roster spots. Everyone goes nasty, full bore all the time to prove that they are the guy that deserves to start in this league.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 17, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you see Trent cut block a blitzer???

I think I saw him pickup an LB or S blitz on the Armstrong TD. Did you see that in the replay? He puts a helmet on the guys thigh as he tries to go outside of him?

by liger99 on Aug 17, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think that was on the McNabb TD throw

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 17, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. When I heard the Reed/Rex comment from Joe…I was like “What the heck was that?” Still would like to know just how he came to that conclusion and what in the world would make him think of that in the first place.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Aug 17, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Theisman

Theisman: “One of the thing a coach looks for in a quarterback is the ability to complete passes.”

Where does he come up with these gems? Who would have thought…? Seriously people, the guy is so annoying I turned the sound way down on my TV. I would have turned the sound off if I had had the player’s number memorized. Can he say anything of substance?
Who is the guy running the camera that kept focusing on Theisman and his mindless showboating and chattering when real football was in progress. Several times, I shouted in irritation. Somebody tell me we won’t have to put up with him and his pointless interviews all season.

by Crazyhorse1 on Aug 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

John Madden

“Ya See what the offense is trying to do here, is get first downs and move the ball towards the end-zone and score a touchdown! Thats how you win the game!”

Thanks John!

by skinsfan28 on Aug 18, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

He said lots of stuff of substance

but he also had a lot of gaffes.

Most other color guys say nothing worth anything.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 18, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theismann - give him a break

Joe talks too much, and is not the best analyst (I personally think Aikman and Collingsworth are far better), but he knows a lot and gives some valuable insight into what’s going on. The announcers and anaIysts have a tough job, and often do it very well. They have to watch the play and describe details immediately, without benefit of replay, then hope the replay shows what they think the saw (I couldn’t do it). And anybody who talks a lot without a script is going to make mistakes. His “complete passes…” statement sounds ludicrous, and is obvious, but he possibly was thinking of the various skills (arm strength, accuracy, vision and spotting open receivers, quick release) that make for a good passer, which is itself just one part of being a QB.
On the interview – it was a scoop – with the owner – probably worth full screen in the first pre-season game (although Dan didn’t say anything exciting). By the way, I was a little surprised at how big Joe is (6’3"?), especially compared to Dan Snyder (5’8"?). I used to consider him sort of small, but that was clearly wrong (unless there was some kind of illusion due to parallax).

by Donnio1234 on Aug 17, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously,

are you a defense attorney in your other life?
On Theismann’s size, if my memory serves me well, JT was about 6’0, 200lbs.

by MagicHat on Aug 18, 2010 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I always wanted to be one

but never got up the energy to go to law school. I guess I like Theismann more than most do, but recognize that he’s not the best color guy around. He has said a few things that had me scratching my head, but I just don’t worry about them. He does know a lot, and did some good analysis. Like he pointed out little route running blunders by Wade and DT – Wade could have cut inside to open space where the QB could have seen him, and DT could have cut his route four steps earlier and been open. Both were things an experienced QB might see.

by Donnio1234 on Aug 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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