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Daily Slop: Jarmon on the Bubble; Redskins Could Get High Conditional Pick if Move Haynesworth

Redskins could get back a conditional 2nd/3rd round pick if they move Haynesworth [Redskins Gab]
If this is the case, it's an easy decision. Get rid of him. We need the picks. And you know he's going to be hurt multiple games anyway.

Brian Westbrook will announce his decision on Monday [EaglesGab]
Brian of course lives in Waldorf, MD. From rumors I've heard, he was picking the Redskins. Of course the Broncos just lost their top 2 RBs to injury for at least the rest of the pre-season, so I'd imagine it's going to be DEN.

Kareem Moore poised to break out this year [Skins Blog]
I remember last year, Kareem had an amazing camp and was all around the ball. Another year under his belt - especially with the 1st team...expect some big hits and plays from this kid.

Either Jarmon or Holliday are losing their job [CSN]
Devestating blow if Jarmon is cut and the Redskins essentially gave away their 3rd pick from this draft. The lingering ACL injury might be his downfall.

Andy Reid Banning Fan Attire = An Eagles Team with Issues [CurlyR]

McNabb on playbook: "It's a growing process. We know that everything isn't going to be where we need to be for Dallas, but that's why we play the preseason, to kick the rust off a little bit and kind of get our timing and chemistry where we need to be." [BuffaloNews]
In short, expect some mistakes tonight.

Rabach: "Artis Hicks is a really smart football player" [WaPost]
That's great, but Artis is getting PUSHED BACK in camp. Keep an eye on Hicks tonight.

Redskins players talk about being older than Kyle Shanahan [Bog]
Dockery of course was his teammate at Texas...and still calls him "Kyle."

Star-divide

Cowboys start off 2010 where they left off in 2009. Red Zone blues. [nfl.com]

Football Putsiders predicts Cowboys won't win 8 games [SportsDay]
And they predicted this before last night. They also predicted Shanahan would be fired in 3 years, but they make some valid points on this case. NOT ADDRESSING THE OLINE.

Bears RB Harvge Unga put on IR [espn]
He was their supplemental draft pick this year.

Jamarcus Russell failed drug test right after 2007 draft [espn]
For codeine...the purple drank. In a E60 interview, he blames the Raiders and Tom Cable for not helping him. What an ass...he's a grown man.

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2nd/3rd

“Could” and “Will” are not the same thing. And dont you think they would’ve already shipped him if this was available….OR they actually want to keep him, despite your desire for him to be gone. We are a better team with him hurt or not. And if they do get him into better cardio shape, he’ll play more and likely better.

by TheOverLordMarshl on Aug 13, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to keep Haynesworth.

He is the type of DL that can take over a game. I don’t see any of our other linemen doing that at this point. Haynesworth will be fine.

by CarverM on Aug 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sapp made some excellent points with that game film

Haynesworth is only effective when the team runs right at him…otherwise, he doesn’t hustle, run, get any push or play the fakes otherwise. Granted, that was 1 game, but it was a MNF game, and that week 1 Giants game, where he did well, all those stuffs were right at him. That’s huge, but now teams no just to run away from him.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 13, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes playing defense a bit easier

when you know that everything from guard to guard is pretty much taken care of, no?

by CarverM on Aug 13, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, I’d love for #92 to be a part of this team, just nothing has shown me he is. Hopefully I’m wrong. Certainly Haslett is 15x the ball buster Zorn and Blache ever would be and maybe can get it out of him. Showing up to camp out of shape is usually the pre-cursor to injuries.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 13, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wish we hadn’t fucked up the Gregg Williams situation. such a beast defensive coordinator

a life: it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come -Lester Freamon

by eastcoastatlas on Aug 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's hilarious about Dock & Kyle

And I feel good about Moore. It would be huge if he comes through in the coverage safety role.

Plus it’s always nice when a late round pick turns into a starter

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I understand the Raiders have a nice little defense,

but they don’t have an Orakpo. Romo was sacked 3 times last night?

Orakpo might have 3 sacks opening night.

by CarverM on Aug 13, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

If Moore, Hall and Rogers

can match up to the Alphabet-led backfield the Raiders have, I’m expecting a Sackfest Game 1 with our DLine, LBs and Landry all putting pressure on Romo. This could be a huge defensive struggle of a game unless D-Mac, our RBs and WRs have a breakout package in store.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Romo was sacked 3 times last night

It’s always nice to hear about Homo getting sacked.

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think homosexuals would appreciate being compared to Tony Romo.

Bored and broke.

by ThaRak on Aug 13, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor has it

that they are in a complete tizzy over this post. Furiously re-decorating and moving furniture around as we speak…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not even sure

How you’d fight someone that only knows how to slap. I’m guessing one good punch in the face should do it…

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that was

Disrespectful to compare another human being to Tony Oh-no.

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He certainly has the potential to do so

by Guru506 on Aug 14, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will be seriously disappointed

if Jarmon doesn’t make the squad. It sounds like he kinda got jerked around with the weight thing and that could have cost us a 3rd round pick this year. Uhhgg.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

As I said on another post

I understand that Shanahan doesn’t have any loyalty to any of the players that were here before he was, but I seriously hope he isn’t being too impatient and doesn’t let go of a young promising player(s). Even worse, if that player ends up making huge contributions for another team.

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

cosign

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 13, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the flip side

Not having those “emotional bonds” can help make better, perhaps more realistic football decisions. So it’s not all bad. I think if Jarmon doesn’t make it, it will because of injury; not lack of talent. Maybe he goes IR until things settle out…?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but

I’m concerned about Jarmon potentially being cut because he has potential and because I’ve seen good things out of him when he played. It’s never an emotional thing for me and players, either they can help this team win or they can’t, if they can’t, get rid of them, but if they can they should be held onto. And I feel Jarmon is one of those players that can help us win, if not, I think he’s a player that could help another team win.

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree to all

I was just commenting on the “loyalty” aspect of your previous post.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also agree

I just don’t want Shanahan to end up making a decision that he (and us fans) will end up regretting.

by bigrm18 on Aug 13, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 13, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent

I’m leaving now!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I should be there around 6 or 630

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 13, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lied

but am leaving soon. Will see you there.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jarmon, Haynesworth

Totally agree on Jarmon – don’t cut him; he’s probably still reacting to the weight loss and gain. I think the idea of losing AH this year in return for a second (or third!) round pick is just out and out crazy. The defense is substantially better when he is in there. Without him the D-line is not very good. Among other things, no solid NT, Jarmon struggling, Holliday just OK, and the DE position somewhat dependent on Philip Daniels, who is terrific, but getting old and thus injury prone. I’d only trade AH for somebody of equal value this year. Besides, there may not even be a season in 2011. Of course, the whole question turns on just how good you think Haynesworth is. So there will be disagreements.

by Donnio1234 on Aug 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

at this point, albert has been paid and is cheap. he definitely lost weight. cant trade him now. but i would focus on getting the guy in shape. even if he gives plays one out of four plays, he is worth 3mm for the year!

by les boulez bomber on Aug 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

The Jarmon/Holliday link is wrong.

I found the right article on CSN under defense review.

And just my 2 cents- I think it is very possible we keep both those guys. Kind of like the DThomas and MKelly 3rd string listings- I think this could just be Shanahan putting pressure on the young guys to perform better and step it up by realizing that there are no guarantees.

by preppiejack on Aug 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody remember

what the name of the big church is over by the stadium?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 13, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

yea

Jericho is the one walking distance.
St. Joseph’s is the one right outside the beltway.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 13, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

I don’t use either. there’s an apartment complex or something on the way there that’s a helluva lot closer and cheaper that I used last time.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Aug 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's called.....

FEDEX FIELD…….duh!!!!!!!!

by shvd98z24 on Aug 15, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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