Daily Slop: Devin Thomas is 3rd string for a Reason; Larry Johnson is a Horrible DJ

by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 8:55 AM EDT in Daily Slop

Devin Thomas is 3rd string because he's having trouble getting separation...whether he's facing DeAngelo Hall or Ramzee Robinson. His Special Teams skills is what saving his roster spot [fredericksburg.com]

Orakpo regarding the 3-4: "There's no SS or FS...it's really just left and right." Espn980 radio

Adam Schefter does a bang-up job writing his post-card from Redskins camp.
Shanahan has brought in a lot of ex-Broncos to help teach the crash course: Terrell Davis, Steve Beuerlein, Steve Atwater, Michael Pittman....Shanahan calls Trent Williams "a total stud." [espn]

In nickel packages, expect Carlos Rogers to play the slot and Phillip Buchanon the CB [Insider]

Malcolm Kelly likely won't play Friday vs Bills [Insider]...nor will Haynesworth [Insider]

Larry Johnson is a horrible DJ...cleared out the dancefloor at club [dcfab]

I always love me some Cleveland bashing. Braylon Edwards sounds off: "There’s nothing going on in Cleveland," Edwards said. "There’s no real estate. There’s no social life, no social networking. All the people who have something going on leave Cleveland..." [nfl.com]

The Hogs still hate the Cowboys [Bog]

Carlos Rogers and some Wizards bowl for for Haiti [dcfab]

Brandon Jacobs might lose starting job to Bradshaw. Is there anyone out there that thinks that Brandon would sit there and be a good teammate if that happened? [nfl.com]

Colts' John Gill found drunk in a ditch "desheveled and soiled." Good times. [yahoo.com]

Fedex Field exterior gets some upgrades as well [Skins Blog]

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Not surprised to hear that from Orakpo. The blurring of FS/SS roles has been a trend in the NFL for a while now.

Love that Shanahan is bringing the mentors in. Hate that he’s bringing in serial woman & child abuser Michael Pittman. That guy should be in jail for the rest of this life.

Braylon Edwards needs to keep his mouth shut and learn how to earn his paycheck. What a flash in the plan.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions

Was I wrong?

Having posted on this site about AH and his getting the better of Shanny I am posting for you guys to tell me if I got it all wrong and that Shanny won the battle or was it a draw with both sides proving their point?.

by G Fan in England on Aug 10, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions

I don't think its that cut and dried...

Shanny showed his authority and AH was the first to blink if you want to look at it in those terms. AH took the summer off, showed up for work late and unprepared, he did what he wanted to do, and now he is going to work much harder in camp…the fact that he is now playing second team NT says a lot.

by MagicHat on Aug 10, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Thanks guys

If AH wants to play football (as per Skinsfan28) it will be interesting to follow the next stage of camp to see if AH sticks at NT or plays some DE and spends time with the first team.

by G Fan in England on Aug 10, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions

I am sure he will see action at NT, DE and DT in 4-3 and nickel packages

by MagicHat on Aug 10, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions

Haslett has a 2-5 package as well which AH is featured in.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

The 2-5

sounds like the mythical 5-2 the Giants were going to use last season.

Injuries prevented it’s use and given Kiwi is getting some snaps as LB we may be close to playing the type of formation this season.

The Giants used the 2-5 to beat the Bills in the SB – they had LT play as a stand up DE whilst the 4 other LB played a shallow zone to deal with the Andre Reed crossing pattern. On the Bills opening drive they went three and out despite Reed catching all three passes!

by G Fan in England on Aug 10, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions

I think Shanahan won

but by him winning they both kind of won, he forced Haynesworth to want to be a part of this team again. football players (even insanly rich lazy ones) have a desire to compete, they don’t wanna be out there watching from the side lines.

So I say it’s a draw because they both benefit by having Al on the field, however they did it Shanny’s way so he did sort of win.

by skinsfan28 on Aug 10, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Albert was able

to come out of this without egg on his face because he was putting in the time everyday to at least learn the system. And the fact that this ended before the preseason was good for all involved too.

I think, tho, that this was a huge victory for Shanny. Look at all the diva players holding out and bitching right now. Haynesworth is the only one that was forced to go through a week and a half of public mockery for not being able to pass a conditioning test and now having to practice with the 2’s.

Big props to Bruce Allen, also, for working out the contract stuff at the beginning of the year. AH really has nothing to complain about with his contract, unlike Reivis and the others.

by Boo. on Aug 11, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Disappointing to hear that about DT

I wish something would change for these guys, I think this is the last year I can keep supporting him. He was “my guy” from that draft so I keep giving him the benefit of the doubt and coming up with excuses for him but damn he’s not making it easy.

by Jornek on Aug 10, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions

The Curse of Vinny...some updates from camp this morning

Devin is dropping everything in practice today….incl one in the chest.

Heyer is playing 1st RT with Jammal Brown still nursing hip soreness.

RB Ryan Torain runs up the middle, nowhere to go. He breaks loose to the outside and races into the end zone for an easy score.

Willie Parker with TD catch from slot vs dime look from McNabb

Kevin Barnes picks off Rex Grossman. If Barnes can hone his special teams play, he’ll make a big impact this season.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions

I've tried supporting

Thomas and Kelly with all of my might, but the both of them are making it difficult to defend them any longer. I hope the both of them earn a roster spot, and eventually move ahead of Galloway and Williams, but if they don’t have it, they just don’t have it.

I don’t want to get too ahead of myself, but I’m getting pretty worried about Brown’s injury. There’s time left, but still…

I’m excited to hear any and everything about Torain impressing in camp. If Portis can regain some of his former pro-bowl self, more power to him, but eventually we’ll have to get younger at the RB position (as well as almost every other position on this team).

by bigrm18 on Aug 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

WIDEOUTS ON THE WAY OUT

Amen, bigrm! It’s looking more and more like both Thomas & Kelly just can’t cut it. Kelly can’t even get healthy (let alone stay that way) and for all Thomas’ alleged speed, apparently he can’t get away from defenders.
(Here’s a scary thought: maybe Zorn was right about those two.)
Anyway, suddenly bringing in Galloway and Williams doesn’t sound so far fetched. Haven’t heard much about Anthony Armstrong so far in camp….supposedly he looked good in OTAs but he’s rarely mentioned these days.

by Tee L on Aug 10, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Maybe Thomas' lost a little speed with his weight gain this offseason?

Usually I subscribe to the idea that a bigger motor doesn’t slow the car down in regards to weight gain, but what gives? He was supposed to be blazing fast right? Maybe his frame just can’t carry the extra weight.

by CarverM on Aug 10, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Sounds like John Beck has already passed Bartel on depth chart…looking good so far.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Good to hear

The fact that Kyle Shanahan is high on Beck makes me wonder if he has QB-of-the-future potential

Bored and broke.

by ThaRak on Aug 11, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Torain

Shanahan is the type of coach who has started RBs who are 3rd on the depth chart before in Denver. He doesn’t care what the name on the back of your jersey says, he starts the most productive back. His depth charts are notoriously misleading. That’s why in fantasy football I never drafted a back out of Denver, because Shanahan would end up starting an undrafted free agent instead of your “supposed” stud running back that you drafted in the 2nd round of your fantasy draft. Torain could be in on a lot more downs this year if he continues to catch Shanahan’s eye in practice and particularly in the upcoming pre-season games. Even Willie Parker at #4 on the depth chart could get a lot of playing time come regular season. Shanahan loves to have fresh legs out there. If a RB is half a step slow he’ll put in another guy, and so on. The top 3 backs will probably share carries throughout the season as Shanny plays the healthiest freshest legs he’s got.

by Kurtstack on Aug 10, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions

Trent Williams

It’s great to hear that about Trent Williams. Could it be we are actually upgrading LT position this year from Chris Samuels to Trent Williams? I’d love to have a top tier LT for the foreseeable future.

by Kurtstack on Aug 10, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

agree

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions

Oh wow...

Skins are running some wildcat today with Brandon Banks. Defense wasn’t fooled tho.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions

Wow - we're going to actually have a team that's caught up to this century's offensive innovations? amazing

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions

I read somewhere that we would be mimicking other teams offenses

to show our defense how to handle them, so i wouldn’t read too much into this… it’s not like we’re practicing the alluring double fake field goal

by skinsfan28 on Aug 10, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions

In that interview with Orakpo, he said:

The Redskins are going to show pretty much nothing of our playbook all pre-season. Dallas is in for a hail storm.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Nice...

Can’t wait for the heavens to open up on da girls.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Aug 10, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions

duh

Skins are running the wildact b/c the Bills do it…

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Nick Sundberg botched 2 more FG snaps...

Gano missed both as a result. Kid is a rookie, but I thought the future is now. Rookie longsnappers don’t seem to exemplify that.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions

I've not seen the logic in cutting the Red Snapper

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

I heard Red Snapper

wanted to retire, but I can’t confirm it with any evidence.

by Jornek on Aug 10, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions

I read that he was still waiting for a phone call

not sure what the current situation is.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions

I heard

he was still pissed at John Madden.

"You're fucking out!"

by travisjh86 on Aug 10, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Agree with you on that one

Albright was just as good as any other longsnapper in the league. I can only assume that Shanny wanted to bring in his own player? But regardless, I just don’t understand it.

by bigrm18 on Aug 10, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions

pretty sure I heard Albright had back surgery this off-season

not sure what his condition is.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Who thinks Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas will get cut?

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 10, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions

I can't see Devin getting cut

Malcolm for sure I can see it…what’s the point of holding a roster spot for a guy that’s got nagging injuries and has never had a single flash of game-film greatness? Hopefully he can get healthy this weekend with some days off and return to some pre-season action.

Shanahan confirmed Jammal Brown and Kelly will not play Friday.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions

I predict MK gets cut and Thomas is kept

Thomas still has potential and showed flashes last year.

MK, much to my dismay, is injured and hasn’t shown anything.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Aug 10, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah Thomas did pretty good last season.

by wizardsfan1 on Aug 10, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Thomas will be #1 KR friday night

Philip Buchanon the PR.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Aug 10, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions

MK had a Flash...

Granted it was a brief Flash, but he did well in the Chargers game last year and ended up going like 5 for 105 or something, and one of those was a bomb for (I think) 70 or 80 yards. I still hope he and DT can make something happen this year… Of Course, I have been drunk on Kool-Aid since early June.

by ATXSkinfan on Aug 10, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions