Washington Redskins Training Camp In Progress
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Haynesworth #1****First on the docket is news from Jay Glazer that Albert Haynesworth did NOT pass his conditioning tests today. According to Glazer, Haynesworth passed the 1st part but not the 2nd part. This story will be monitored closely, but as of right now it appears that the Haynesworth Show is already full of drama and intrigue and we are merely hours into this thing.
****Can we all kind of discuss what is less surprising: Haynesworth failing his physical or Malcolm Kelly missing the beginning of camp with a hamstring injury? How is Kelly going to convince Shanahan to trust him if he can't be on the field? So frustrating...
Haynesworth UPDATE****Jason Reid is reporting that Haynesworth did in fact pass his conditioning (as reported below by CaptChaos). My understanding is that there is a lot of confusion over the scores he received in both the swimsuit competition and the evening gown competition.
2:00 PM****Looks like the consensus is FAIL.
2:30 PM****In what is becoming more dramatic by the minute, it is now being reported that Haynesworth had to drop a deuce and it caused him to fail his test. I would otherwise not pass on this speculation, but the Haynesworth Saga would be incomplete without a log in the bowl. In fact, if true, it would be among the least offensive parts of the Haynesworth Saga.
**As reported by John Clayton on ESPNews, "Haynesworth failed to run a third 100-yard sprint in a satisfactory time. Coach Mike Shanahan felt he had too much rest between his runs and asked for a third. When Haynesworth told Shanahan he never ran 3 such sprints during his best Pro Bowl seasons Shanahan told Haynesworth he must not have ever been in shape."
***Oakland Raiders sign Rolando McClain. My prediction: Pro Bowl in his rookie year.
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Ehh
I say under. If he really did “kill” the conditioning test, I don’t see that from a guy around 340-350. I see that from a 320-330 guy.
Jason Reid
of Redskins insider fame reported via his twitter that Haynesworth “killed” the conditioning test.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
well damn...
Jay Glazer just took a hit in the credibility department
by Ken Meringolo on Jul 29, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
ESPN just reported that he apparently did great on his conditioning test.
Jay Glazer
I’m not the biggest fan of his.
NFL “insider
” rankings:
1) Adam Schefter. Far & away the best. Stuff is usually dead on and first with the news. Actually I don’t think the rest of the insiders are that great. It pained me to see him go to BSpn though.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Comment post fail
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive assumed all along these 2 wouldn't be contributors
Sucks, but lets move on without them.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 29, 2010 1:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
MK is disappointing
He is really looking at being on the edge now. We’ve got plenty of 4th and 5th receivers. If MK doesn’t step up into the 3rd spot, he could be squeezed out.
MK
How ironic – he hurt it at D-Mac’s sessions.
Wondering if AH’s physical was the standard, or if they were possibly a little more strict with him?
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I don't believe this report: 300 yards is unreal, 100 yards is more than Cody's test.
“Albert Haynesworth’s inability to run a third 300-yard sprint in a satisfactory time in the eyes of Mike Shanahan prevented him from practicing with the Redskins Thursday. Haynesworth had to pass a conditioning test Thursday and he entered the day planning to do two sprints. According to a source, Shanahan felt Haynesworth had too much rest time between his runs and asked for a third.
Haynesworth failed the third sprint. A source said Haynesworth told Shanahan he never ran three such sprints during his best Pro Bowl seasons. NFC East blog”
by Jefferson1935 on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm thats a little excessive....
not sure if it is still as hot up there as it has been but telling a 330 lb man to sprint 1/2 a mile in 100 degree heat just to see if he is in shape to practice?
The Mike Wise Show was reporting that the coaches were in a meeting so it is unclear if AH passed or not
ESPN says fail
Reports on ESPN are that Haynesworth failed.
Kelli Johnson @ CSN confirms fail as well
She says if AH had just worked out with the team over the off-season, the test wouldn’t have been required
Please,
For once can the irrational Redskins fans (98% of the people on here) not acted surprised over this?
I really hope they are not just giving him an impossible test
Whats with the conflicting reports whats the score here
2 say he killed it – jason reid and ESPN
3 say failed – Kelli, ESPN (De Ocho?) and Glazer
I really really hope they’re not trying to “put him in his place” for not being here if he is infact in great shape… That could really screw up the locker room,
Good Point
I don’t think Shanny wouldn’t sabotage his own team for the sake of payback though.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
clarification from the post
Haynesworth did so well in the first phase that one team source said he “killed it.” But Haynesworth apparently needed a lavatory break midway through the second part and was unable to complete the test after returning and starting from the beginning.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
He will be fine
Sips kool-aid, adds vodka.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
so what happens now?
do we know when he can retake? Does he have to leave camp? Did anybody advise him not to have “Thickburgers” for breakfast this morning?
I'd rather he fail the test on the 1st try
than shit on the field. Can you imagine how many days of camp we’d miss if they had to clean that up?
by CarverM on Jul 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why is nothing
easy or straightforward with this guy? Does he have one foot in another dimension or something?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
not gonna be able to make it next week
I’m trying to get things in order so I can hit up a few of these games this year. maybe even a preseason game
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I've already given away my tick
to the Bills pre-season game. Well, actually sold it for full value! My ticket buddies all contributed to let one guy’s friend from Buffalo take his family to the game. I’m happy with the cash.
If I hear of any tickets floating around I’ll let you know.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
please do
I loved where I sat for the game I went to last year, but those prices will kill me sooner or later
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I'm in the upper deck
near the railing looking out into space this year. I’ve been given ticks on the 50ydline in the bowl several times over the past few years. Maybe you get lucky.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I have a pair in 444 for Buffalo
Was asking $20 a piece.
by ReggieBullits on Jul 29, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Waahhhh
This really isn’t that big of a deal.
What else is going on in Camp?
Practice is supposed to be this afternoon...
so as of yet there realy is not much else to talk about.
Carlos Rogers signed his tender and is in the fold.
Trent Williams is unsigned (only Redskin unsigned).
Jeff George is not anywhere to be found.
by Ken Meringolo on Jul 29, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there anyway
the Redskins can charge him a fee for everytime he fails the test? Maybe that will motivate him to get it done.
This guy must shit bowling bowls.
Too tired after using the bathroom? Color me impressed.
by ReggieBullits on Jul 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha
But I think what happened is he had to start part 2 over again, so he ended up trying to do approx 1 1/2 the exertion required to finish. This may all blow over tomorrow when it is a lot cooler and less humid.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Also
I bet he’ll try take care of that constitutional in the morning before practice…
According to profootballtalk
Several Redskins players say he’s obviously in better shape. I really really hope Shanny isn’t trying to make an example of him out of spite.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
"in better shape than last year" is completely relative
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Yea
It is completely possible/likely that he went from terribly out of shape and a ridiculously fat to just mostly out of shape and really fat.
I hate to bring him up b/c usually anything he reports in regards to the Redskins is totally false, but Florio wrote that there was no way Shanahan was going to let Albert pass the 2nd test, just to make an example of him.
I’m pretty sure AH is fit enough can perform and will practice within the next few days.
I don't believe him
There is usually time limits to these conditioning tests, so Albert would of had to start the second part of it over again with the clock at zero since I don’t think you can call timeout in the middle of a conditioning test.
If he really is out of shape, sitting him on the sidelines as he watches everyone else practice isn’t going to help him get in shape.
I’m just ready to get him out and practicing. Albert is a gamer, he can sit indian style on the dline and still be out best offensive lineman.
I think when its week one on sunday night and he sees gurode across from him he’ll be ready to peform and perform at a very high level. Hopefully there won’t be any situations where he has to sprint 900 yards.
I think we have an opportunity with this D-line where we can continually rotate Albert, Carriker, Daniels, Holliday, Golston, Makke, and whoever else, hell even run out Orakpo and Carter on the d-line at times. This will really keep the offense on their toes and QBs will constantly have to recognize where the pass rush is coming from.
Anyone surprised?
I have no doubt that if he ran a marathon in 2 hours flat that Shannahan would have found something to fail him for. It’s got less to do with fitness and everything to do with power.
And to be honest I have no problem with it at all. He’s proven to be a huge ‘me’ guy and a distractor. Put him in his place and see if he’s willing to suck it up and play for the team. Because at the end of the day if he’s just coming in here for a paycheck and doesn’t play hard you’re better off putting someone less talented in there that wants to be on the field.
And if he gets his feelings hurt than good. He’s been bullying his way through the league for too long. Give him an inch and he takes a mile. So you take two inches from him and reestablish the boundaries.
by It's Always Sunny in DC on Jul 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Sometimes it takes tough love
and a lot of wind sprints to get it across to everybody that team is first. Even if he is unsuccessful with AH, it will not be to the team’s overall detriment but AH’s.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
+1000
and he never ran 3 sprints in a row? that’s terrible! $100 million? watch me run 20 sprints in a row!
Malcolm Kelly is running around in practice fine right now
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hip Hip Hooray!
That will last about an hour…well, hope not and he’s fine.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
for that sake of the Kool-Aid team MK
keep your shit together!!!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Hol' Up!
Snyder expressed excitement when asked about the changes at FedEx Field, saying the video boards are “enormous” and “not only in HD but 3-D capable as well.” He said the team would soon introduce some features to enhance the tailgating experience at the stadium.
We get our cheerleaders in 3D now?!?!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
3D capable? Isn’t being IN THE STADIUM a 3D experience? Can’t you look at the field and see the game in 3D? why would I want to see the scoreboard in 3D?
I wonder how much he would charge for 3D glasses? 39.95? Wouldn’t surprise me. What would surprise me is if people actually purchased the things.
I thought the whole reason you went to the games was to see it in 3D
arent 3D screens at the venue a bit redundant.
And with the glasses, you would ahve to choose whether to watch the play or the screen for the whole game, no??
Pommylee
WOAH ..... Galloway is listed as our WR2
Wow. so much for everyone’s kool aid on this site about how DT and MK are going to breakout this year.
My doublestuffed oreos fell on the floor of my mom's basement. Save me swagman!
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jul 29, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions
eh 1st day of training camp
If this was the last day I might be worried but training camp is used to push younger players anyway. Until we see the young guys live in preseason it doesn’t mean much.
well it means that they have not impressed thus far.,...
maybe DT will win back the WR2 spot, maybe not, but the word is he has not gotten off on the right foot with the new management.
My doublestuffed oreos fell on the floor of my mom's basement. Save me swagman!
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jul 29, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
DT and MK
It’s early, but those two guys are a soap opera in themselves. They’re just lucky everybody is watching Haynesworth and not them.
Ch 4 NBC, Dan and Lindsay
Showed Shanahan pretty much down-playing AH’s failing test. Shanahan went out of his way to be upbeat, and said, unlike yesterday, that AH was definitely on the team. Also clarified that he would keep taking the test until he passed it, and the reason was to build up his cardiovascular strength – for his own good. The test was apparently two sprints, which AH passed, but took too long between runs (bathroom), so they made him take it again – a third run – and that one was too slow. But all in all, no big deal, no question about his playing or his state of mind. Some fans shouted encouragement to him, and he apparently smiled back. All friendly. Apparently most of the team was supportive (according to Dan and Lindsay), with any earlier negative comments forgotten.
It's amazing to have an NFL coach coaching our NFL team.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Kemoeatu
Anybody see him out there? Would be a little disappointing If he’s not 100%. Only first day, of course, but they’ve been saying all along that he’d be OK by Training Camp.
OK Shanahan we get it, you want to prove you are the man
But leaking to friendly journos conversations like
“I never did 3 such sprints in my pro-bowl years”
“Then you must never have been in shape”
Is wrong for 2 reasons.
1. How are you going to win Haynesworth back to trusting you and committing to the team if you are cutting him off at the knees in the press every 5 minutes. Yeah ur buddies in the Press Corp who hate Big Al will give you glowing write ups, but whats more important, Production from one of the most dominant D-Line players in the game, or favourable press… I know which will give us more wins, and its not John Clayton
2. 3 100 metre sprints for a 300lb DT, how is that helpful, when is Haynesworth ever going to run 100 metres on this field, short power work is what determines if he is in shape (and yes I get for us normally proportioned ppl 100 yards is power work, but I would like to see anyone on this site Bench Press what Haynesworth can)
I really dont like where this is going, and two other ppl who will be hating this are B-Rak and Carter them two know how much Haynesworth contributed to their numbers last year
Pommylee
Do not be confused, this is all about AH
The test was 2 sprints, not 3. AH took an extended bathroom break after the first sprint, (to find the oxygen and cart, like last year?) which required him to perform the test from the beginning. He ran the first sprint and walked the second. This does not sound like an unreasonable conditioning test.
agree
2 sprints and I’m sure they aren’t expecting sub 10 seconds times either.
from what I understand the test is two sets of 3×100 yard shuttle runs. In HS we would close every practice with at least 10 120 yard sprints. We would get a 10 second break between sprints and by the end everyone would be completely exhausted. If he has to sprint, I’d say it is a pretty tough test.
AH and Shanahan
(Pommylee) I’m all for AH and don’t think he should be punished, but I got the impression that Shanahan was not being vindictive. He did make him take the test but explained it as making sure AH was in condition to practice (cardiovascular, etc), since he had missed the OTAs. Also, that he expected him to pass it pretty soon (anywhere from one day to a week or two). Shouldn’t be hard because he basically passed it already. In short, a little jacking around to establish that he is the boss, but nothing too bad, and Albert seemed to understand. And Mike spoke positively throughout the interview. So I sort of think, from what I saw, that Shanahan is handling it right so far. As I mentioned before, Mike being a little tough might help Haslett become more of a friend, mentor and protector, much like AH’s coach in Tennessee. All this is based on snippets of information. By the way, Phillip Daniels did comment that it was a pretty hard test, especially in the heat. Phillip, a team leader who had been one of the more outspoken players, seemed “cool” (friendly) with Albert. Anyway, I feel fairly positive on events so far, but that’s just me – an optimist.
Punishment, prevention, or provocation?
This was sure an interesting move on Shany’s part. Obviously it is an act to single AH out and flex a bit of control over him.
The question I have is will there be grounds for the league or union to take action in this matter. If he was indeed singled out over spite this could get uglier. Can others on the team of similar size perform comparable test if given it?
I don’t believe Shany’s statement about it simply being a matter to determine if he can perform at a level others who were at camp already have proven. If they were doing a cardio stress test it would have been conducted totally different.
If the showing of authority can end here and they can meet in the middle (NT to be exact) to get training it’s ok. As Pommylee pointed out tho the situation doesn’t need to be inflamed further. I think it’s important the coach show who’s boss to an extent. The problem is if you show yourself to be a liar and vindictive SOB you lose more than you gain.
They say some people never go crazy.... what a boring life that must be!!
Shanny's rep
is that he is the boss, bar none. To show anything different to AH would undermine the entire Team.
I’m also pretty sure that Haslett prepped AH on what was going to happen and why. AH reportedly was smiling about it at one point was the word I got.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Definitely
Like Safado said above…..the test wasn’t as bad as it’s being portrayed to be. Two 100 yard sprints with little rest in between and plenty of leniency on the times. Not unreasonable for a professional athlete….330+ or not. Suck it up and get it done fatboy!
Trent Williams has been signed
The Redskins.com Training Camp report says he is out on the field, ready to practice and that he is signed. No idea what the contract is though.
Contract Value
Six Year, 60 Million. 36.75 million guaranteed. Wow. Just wow.
Okung will get
about 10% less. $55 million; $34 million guaranteed.
by Jefferson1935 on Jul 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Okung still hasnt signed
one of the last holdouts, maybe we did pick the right guy after all
Pommylee
Hanyesworth failed his 2nd conditioning test
Rick Maese of the Washington Post reported that in to ESPN.
Then maybe he is out of condition...?
I wonder of Heyer or Williams could pass the same test?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
This is hilarious. And GOOD:
Shanahan acknowledged that Haynesworth, who the Redskins say dropped about 35 pounds in the offseason, is the only player who faced the test. “That’s exactly right,” Shanahan said. “And that’s part of being in the offseason program. You don’t have to take the test. But there’s a certain percentage of workouts that you had to be here. And if you’re in that percent, you didn’t have to go through the conditioning test because we knew you’re in good shape.”
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Surprising he failed the test today - it was cooler
I wonder if failing the test means he’s out of shape? He may be OK on weight and strength, but not endurance, and even on that, he might be like all the other big linemen (Daniels did say it was a “tough test”). Shanny ought to let him play pretty soon, though – a little jacking around is OK, but he ought to use some common sense (after all, he cooked up the test and passing grade). Keeping him out of practice for chickensh*t stuff makes no sense. For one thing, he needs the practice to learn the system. It is irritating that Albert can’t do a couple of 100 yd sprints, if that is indeed what the test is.
I just read on WaPo that the test is virtually impossible for big guys
Some players said no other DL would be able to do it. Shanahan is just punishing AH, for better and/or worse.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I heard the same
I actually heard it was 3 of the 300yd shuttle runs. Shanahan is just punishing AH at this point. It’s just a matter of when Shanahan lays off, or Albert Haynesworth pulls out a miracle. I’ve heard that Haynesworth is in obviously better shape, even after failing these. I think it’s for worse, because it really seemed like Haynesworth say the error in his ways, and now this might piss him off a little.
by BigOLinemen on Jul 30, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think both guys are doing what was within their right
And in all likelihood, AH will play for us just fine this year.
If AH is pissed off by what Shanahan is doing to him, he either (A) shouldn’t have played those games or (B) isn’t as smart as I think he is.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Kelly and Thomas...
failed a similar test their rookie season
Shanahan - point made, but
it’s time to lay off.
I'm guessing
the "He will be fine" threads will be be cut in half today…
Opens the AH excuse book:
Bowel Movement (check), The weather wasn’t great (check), Blame the new head coach (check), I don’t fit into the new defensive scheme (check), I want to be traded excuse (check), My contract sucks (check), I really did lose 35 pounds (check), It’s only day 2 of training camp, I will be fine (check)
Why would anyone invest in a player who carries the nickname “Two Plays” is beyond me
Don't lay off...
You sign a contract for $100 million.
You take almost half of the value of a 7 year contract in the first 18 months.
You stay at home during training/teaching sessions of a new coach.
You embarrass the new coach and test his resoluteness.
Then you want to shape up, be a part of the team, and text coaches a few days before Training Camp?
No.
You will be punished. You will run…then run somemore…then run even more until you throw up.
Thanks for playing…

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