Most Underpaid and Overpaid Redskins by 2010 Salary
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT
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Yep, these are the type of articles I'm left with until training camp gets closer. I pulled up the always fascinating Redskins salary cap sheet, which lists bonuses, cap space, everything you could imagine with the Redskins. It hasn't been updated for a few months, but still holds heavy weight. I decided to base these rankings solely on this year's salary and not signing bonuses since that money is long gone, so let's value them for what their weekly paychecks reflect. It should be noted that I had to leave players like McNabb out since they don't have deals or the details are unknown.
Most Valuable 2010 Contracts:
Brian Orakpo: $395K (Got a $12.1m 21.1m bonus last year). Contract ends in 2014 where he'll only be making $1.283mm a year then). By far the best contract on the team, which highlights the value of drafting over free agency.
Jammal Brown: $3.619mm (Steal for a Pro-Bowl Tackle). Brown came to the Redskins via trade after signing his RFA tender with the Saints.
Devin Thomas/Fred Davis: $470K. Both will make $555K next year and will become RFAs.
Least Valuable:
Since everyone's salaries are so low from signing bonuses and the Redskins cleaned house from so many bad contracts, there's almost none left.
Clinton Portis: $7.191mm Slated to make $8.5mm in 2012 and 2013, which is when the contract ends. I still think we should have cut Clinton. I love him, but after this season, I'm thinking that $17mil is as good as gone.
Haynesworth: $3.6mm. No matter how you look at it the Haynesworth contract is down-right awful. He's slated to make $3.6mm this year, which he could get anywhere, so there's no real incentive to work hard for the 3-4. Vonnie Holliday said he was against the 3-4 when he first went to Miami, but after learning it, he wouldn't want to do anything else.
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I don’t consider Jamaal Brown a pro bowl left tackle. He was – but he isn’t anymore
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He just turned 29 which is still pretty young.
And he was out with a sports hernia, which McNabb had and he obviously was able to return to pro-bowl form from. It’s highly unlikely Brown would make a Pro-bowl again since he’s on the right side now, but getting a Tackle of that high quality for $3mil is a deal imo.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right
Especially considering the contracts Chad Clifton and Barry Sims ended up getting, age factor, and injury history. Chris Samuels
gave a run down on his injury history a day or so ago and it was not pretty not even considering his neck, i.e., no cartilage in one knee.
by Jefferson1935 on Jul 22, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Kevin
even if he isn’t pro-bowl we were in desperate need and he wasn’t a bad deal. If we get 2 years out of him which buys us some time to bring more youth to the line in the draft then he’ll be well worth it in my opinion.
by SkinsOsTerps on Jul 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He may not be a pro bowl left tackle
But he probably is a pro bowl right tackle. The guy instantly becomes one of the best right tackles in the game. Regardless of coming off of injury.
by BigOLinemen on Jul 22, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Clinton Portis was guaranteed this year's salary
So cutting him or not, he was getting paid. Which is another big reason we kept him.
No contracts are guaranteed...
You can cut a player any year (before a certain date) and owe them nothing.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand the general rules
But I remember hearing about a clause in Portis’ contract that guaranteed him this years salary.
Since I hate not linking to a source
I’ll do one worse better and link to PFT.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/09/portis-contract-virtually-ensures-his-return-in-2010/
didn't realize that...another great contract.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
That is precisely what Snyders strategy of annual renegotiation cap shennanigans gets us
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Jul 22, 2010 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gets us what?
We have to keep our star running back?
(a year and a half removed from a league MVP season)
Whether he's a star is irrelevant.
If you think CP is worth $7M this year and whatever his future guarantees are, I have a bridge to sell you.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Jul 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That sounds incredibly rare and is probably worth a fortune
How much and which ocean?
1.5 acres of ocean front...
…on the Pacific.
The lot is on the Northwest corner of Kansas.
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But don`t try and sell us last years o-line...
Capable of destroying bridges.
Amazing how drafting talent creates great value
And big ticket FAs end up over priced.
Hmmm
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by smutsboy1 on Jul 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Orakpo didn't really get a 21 million dollar bonus right?
That’s got to be a typo. Not even he earned that.
that is a typo in the XLS....it's $12.1 mil
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
correction: typo on me, not the xls...
hopefully the joke in the paycheck image will make up for it.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Question.
How many unproductive, out of shape, mama’s boys does it take to leach 17 million dollars from the redskins?
Answer: one.
Two minor points
You said AH $3.6, “which he could get anywhere”. So forgetting the past, looking only at this year’s pay, wouldn’t he be fairly paid? In fact, that’s one of the reasons some thought he could be traded – his salary was relatively low. Also, on the Skins roster, W. Parker’s salary is listed as about $3.5 million. If that’s true, wouldn’t that be pretty steep for him?
wouldn’t he be fairly paid?
Yes, if he ever did what coaches asked, but there’s nothing he’s done so far to say he’ll a.) play or b.) show up in shape.
He lost 30 lbs, great. But people just subtracted his listed weight from the season. Who knows what his starting weight was when he began workouts.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin - I wasn't thinking about his behavior problems.
We’ve beaten that horse to death. You’re absolutely right that the answer on AH is conditional – a lot of ifs. I was just assuming, for this discussion, that he would play well, as he can play. And with those assumptions, his actual salary doesn’t look too high – of course because he got huge bonuses already (as did Orakpo and many others). Say if he has a great year, tears up everyone – will the $3.6 million be exorbitant? Would another team sign him right now for $3.6 million? Or say Orakpo goes out and robs a bank and goes to jail – would he still be a bargain? I can’t see the future too well. As I scan the roster list of pay, it seems odd – a whole lot of seemingly low salaries for top players. I think it’s because bonuses and incentives are not included. Parker’s “salary” (if that’s what it is) sticks out like a sore thumb. The salary structure seems to be very complicated, very much determined by the situation at the time of the contract. By the way, Steinberg (?) of the Post commented on some salaries, and pointed out that Albert was the highest paid player in DC, but many others in various sports – including some NFL linemen – had more lucrative contracts than Haynesworth. He struck when the fire was hot.
From what I'm hearing about Willie Parker, that $3.6mil is justified.
We’ll see if that translates in training camp. He’s one of my (completely unjustified) predictions that impresses everyone.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jul 22, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree....
Hopefully “Fast” Willie Parker makes a comeback and produces this year. I’m looking forward to our group of RB’s.
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Parker
Well, good – first I heard that on HH. Everybody else seems to figure it will be CP and LJ. But the coaches wouldn’t be keeping him if they didn’t think he could contribute. By the way, one of the times I was most shocked at Vinny was when the team took Fred Davis (who I figured we didn’t need) and passed up Philip Merling, a promising DE. If we had taken him, he could have replaced Philip Daniels when he went down, and they would not have taken Jason Taylor. But now, Merling is in big trouble – maybe jail type trouble. So that makes Fred look like the best choice back then. Who’d thunk?
I'm glad to hear
that Fast Willie is in the mix. This proves to be a great example of how real competition for roster spots improves everyone and everything. Then comes the tough part where you have to start making cuts….
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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