Maybe Larry Johnson Hasn't Changed
by Tiller56 on Jul 18, 2010 8:02 AM EDT
Email
Print
Below is a recent article about Larry Johnson's court ordered community service. It appears that he only completed 9 of the 40 hours that he was ordered to do. Wait until you see the reason why he failed to complete these hours.
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/16/2088990/larry-johnson-gets-scolding-for.html
Maybe, the decision to sign Larry Johnson wasn't a good one at all. He could be a risk to add negative pub to our football team, and god knows, we already have enough of that.
70 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I just don't care......
If he provides us with a solid RB……that’s all I care about really. He hasn’t killed anyone…..and as long as he keeps his slurs to himself instead of at reporters in the locker room…..I just don’t care. Football is a gladiator sport. We ask these guys to be violent….willing to risk their own well being for our entertainment….and expect everyone of the separate individuals to just be able to turn that switch off. It’s not right! I am not a football fan for the politics……I am a football fan because it is one of the greatest violent sports of all time. Not everyone is mentally equipped to handle things in the same way. LJ has already had a history of things like this….it should have been taken into account then. What does his community service have to do with the on-the-field product? If you expect all these guys to be squeaky clean…..go watch figure skating. You think with Donte Stallworth, Mike Vick, Shaun Rogers, etc of the NFL…..LJ is bringing the team that much bad plublicity to negate a possible 1000 yard rusher from the team?
Figure Skating
Seem to forget Tonya Harding?
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
I'm with you
The game continues to get softer. If you want professional athletes to be examples for your kids, teach them that there are good examples and bad examples. The NFL shouldn’t be held responsible for raising kids anyways..
what a class act
he refused to play ball with kids , he actually has the oppertunity to make a difference in someones life , these were probally at risk kids who need mentoring , instead he wants to do art , get a coloring book you pansy , Larry seems to be all about Larry , If it had been anyone else other than a proffesional athlete refusing to do what a judge had ordered their asses would be in jail , it’s not about what is becoming the norm with these athletes , it’s about principle and I say if he can’t obide by what a judge rules , what makes anyone think he will obide by team rules ? I say sh!t can his sorry ass.
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
My first and last
thought concerning skinaholic’s comment, too.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Yeah Larry's an asshole
All those Thanksgiving dinners and turkeys.. And then he has the nerve to go and get $2500 worth of presents for kids for Christmas? Give the dude a break, he tried to teach the kids art, maybe LJ realizes not every kid is going to grow up to be a professional athlete and they should have other ambitions in life. Maybe the kids weren’t athletic, you ever played sports with unathletic kids? I have, and it sucks.
Or maybe he just saw an easy way out of fulfilling his legal responsibilities.
It was a PAL. Police Athletic League. Not Police Art League. He was assigned there because he has a background in athletics, not art. If he’s so keen on promoting art classes, which is a noble enough cause, he can do it in his free time, but to deny athletics to kids who participate in an athletic league just because the likelihood of their becoming a professional athlete is slim is a total cop-out. By the same token, what are their chances at becoming a professional artist?
Their proclivity toward sports is irrelevant. It’s about character development and keeping kids away from drugs and gangs and such.
DON'T PANIC.
I agree it's a cop-out
I coach wrestling both on the youth and highschool level and enjoy working with kids, i’d have happily played sports with the kids. I’m just saying he was trying to work with the kids, be it art or sports.. On the same token he should have just sucked it up and played sports with the kids.
But in terms of character development I’m not sure I’d send my kids to Uncle Larry’s house when I needed a babysitter..
Character development is the PAL’s stated goal, not Johnson’s (obviously). He was just supposed to show up for a week or so and toss a ball around.
Your point is made though… if the guy can’t be counted on to complete 40 legally required hours of service to the community doing what he loved to do, who is he to be assigned to help teach anyone about character?
DON'T PANIC.
I guess I'm just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt
A known side effect of the B&G Kool Aid..
hmm not familiar with it, is that near richmond?
I used to wrestle at Osbourn Park in Northern Va
It's on the Peninsula
Newport News/Hampton/Williamsburg area..
One of my teammates in college was from Osbourn Park, he would have graduated there in 04…
At least he didn't play fullback
and mow down about 30 kids while doing drills. I guess my expectations of LJ are just a tad lower than the average dude.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
yep, he's a jerk
which is typical of all of our types of celebrities – actors, athletes, politicians. Fame doesn’t screwy things to a persons mind.
The irony will be when he finally realizes he doesn’t have any mojo left. He’s reached the “no mojo” point but I don’t think it’s set in.
Its not his fault kids don't like art...
plus how would this “negative pub” effect the team performance on the field???
LJ
I don’t know what to make of that. Seems to suggest that he is just not a responsible person. And if he can’t be serious about community service, he probably will not be serious about football – he just won’t “pay the price” to be good. He could be a loser. There were reports that he looked good at the early OTAs, but I’d watch him closely, and any sign that he was goofing off or wasn’t the LJ of old, I’d dump him. Just not worth it.
Wish we never signed this woman-abuser to begin with
Wish the NFL and us fans took a harder line against it.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Woman Abuser
Woman user…its really difficult to say without specific facts. A woman once said about Mike Tyson,
" a date with Mike is an invitation to the lottery " Some women are Gold Diggers " some NOT ALL WOMEN.
In short if we dont know exacty what he did or did not do its tough to make a sound judgement.
However if the Judge ordered him to complete an assignment he should be held accountable for it.
Especially if he failed to request of the court an opportunity to use his Art skills instead of what was mandated. Many kids do like art .
sbredskinsnabb
by sbredskinsnabb on Jul 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can say...
Is that I do not know him but being in a place where you have to watch your back is probably a good place not to be. That goes for women and men. Chronic abuse is one thing and another deserved is another thing (provoked). If he stays out of major trouble I don`t see any problem with him. I have to admit that celebs are now getting just treatment these days since most of us can not afford high dollar attorney fees the Judge has to realize that is image is at stake to make the right decision. L.J. is probably not the thug everyone is making him out to be.
if you don't know him then you don't know if he is or isn't a thug
I also follow the Chiefs and this is far from the only problem they’ve had with LJ. From what I’ve seen in the world, where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
The reason people should be worried
about the character of the players they employ is Sheriff Goodell.
He is not playing around with these guys; if you get yourself into trouble at any point during the year he has no qualms with handing out suspensions like Tic Tacs. Going without a player for 2-3+ games can be devastating depending upon the player you lose.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
excellent point...
I am surprised this was the first mention on that. I started a response with this point earlier, but was also calling out Domino for a double standard after being the most staunch supporter here for keeping “he who will not be named in this thread”, and so ready to drop LJ…..just didn’t (and don’t!!!) want to spin this thread back down that road again so I cancelled it. We need a short yardage back…keep through TC, see how he does, Shanny has little tolerance for BS if he doesn’t have the drive to give 100% he will be gone.
LJ - double standard?
I could reverse it and accuse the judgemental ones (on the “un-named one”) of a double standard with LJ. I didn’t say they should dump LJ, just “watch him”. I doubt he’s a real criminal and I am not as harsh as some other posters (I lump him with guys who drink and get in fights and generally act dumb). My point is that he might – might – be going through some kind of mental crisis that could bear on his football playing. But I’d definitely give him a chance. Also note, he’s a more marginal player than the unnamed malefactor, and It appears that his behavior is a little more disturbing than the other. He did actually break a law and violated some societal norms, which could have gotten him jail time. The other un-named malefactor has not broken any laws (except maybe speeding).
That's why we have.....
Portis, Willie, and Torain still! I am sure if he gets too far out of line….he’s toast. Until then…..I just don’t care. I am not watching a game involving 300lb men smashing into each other at full speed thinking….“Hmmmmm……..that guy there is a real stand-up guy. I hope my son grows up to be just like him.” I am thinking hit hi harder. These guys used to not wear helmets….play drunk and high……shoot monster amount of steroids….and all the stuff they still do today. Do you honestly think your average player from the 40’s, 50s, 60s, 70, or even 80s was more stable than todays???? The press is out of control….so now you hear about everything. You didn’t get that back then. Get over it….and enjoy football. What if every single person who posts on the internet….even HH had their criminal record there for you to see? You think all of us are clean? Nobody here has exposed themselves in public….nobody here has taken drugs…..no one here has ever hit someone they shouldn’t have? We aren’t perfect….can’t expect them to. If you want your kids to have positive role models…..it is up to you to point them in the right direction!
P.S. The above post is not totally intended for Rekka…..just my rant!!!
Difference being fans posting on HH aren’t public figures earning millions of dollars with tens of thousands of impressionable kids looking up to them and watching them shun the rules as not applying to them and get away with it because, hey, it’s just football.
Ultimately, it’s the parents job to raise their children, but one cannot dismiss the influence athletic heroes have upon impressionable young minds. Most athletes know this, accept this, and behave accordingly for the decade or two that their professional career lasts… but some just never get it and don’t care about anyone but themselves.
Sure, the media gets a hold of things easier and spread it faster now than they ever used to, but for every athlete out there that gets into the news for the wrong reasons there are dozens that you never hear about. It’s not hard to keep your nose clean (literally and figuratively) and the fact that some athletes can’t and don’t is the whole point.
DON'T PANIC.
I think you guys are going away from what I'm saying
my personal feelings aside, speaking strictly as a fan, why would I want some idiot with a history of getting into trouble on my team when there’s a very good chance he could be suspended for weeks?
People may not care what that 300+ pound man does on his own team because you only care about the havoc he creates on the field, but I but you’d care if he wasn’t playing in the game against Dallas in week 16 that would decide whether or not the team got that Wildcard playoff spot.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Magic -
I was sort of thinking about things like Rekka mentioned in his post.
He hasn't been annointed the starter....
so am I willing to take a risk on my backup being out week 16? Yes! We still have Parker….and Torain knows Shanny’s offense. Either way…..we will still have a decent backup. My whole point is we put too much into athletes.
“elesias” said:
Difference being fans posting on HH aren’t public figures earning millions of dollars with tens of thousands of impressionable kids looking up to them and watching them shun the rules as not applying to them and get away with it because, hey, it’s just football.
Ultimately, it’s the parents job to raise their children, but one cannot dismiss the influence athletic heroes have upon impressionable young minds.
How bout the difference being….the people posting on HH are parents. It is our job to steer our children in the right direction. Why are these athletes getting shit on when it’s not their job to raise our kids. I have 3…..so if you want to tell me how to be a parent….try. It is ultimately the parents job to steer the kids in the right direction….not a damned football player….not a rap star…..not some movie star. If you sit back and allow your kids to be looking up to athletes as their inspiration…..you are as guilty as these athletes. Saying it’s an athletes responsibility to raise our kids because they make millions is simply a copout. It’s nobodies job but the parent. It’s the athletes fault….it’s the rap or metal musics fault….blah blah blah. All that is, is excuses for parents who let TV raise their kids. I take tremendous pride in how I raise my kids and I closely watch where their attention gravitates. Am I flawless? NO…….but I know I will never being passing the blame onto someone else who has never met me or my child for where I have fallen short!
I was talking more about
troubled athletes in general. not just LJ, but from everything I’ve heard there’s going to be a ’Back by committee approach and it takes a hit when one of your backs is suspended. add on to that, a potential problem is taking up a roster spot which we could use on another position.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I understand where you are coming from.....
I just don’t see anything that serious in this particular circumstance. I am not saying or condoning abuse either….I just think we put way too many expectations on athletes. I would hope the Skins protected themselves in his contract for a situation like that where he could be dumped and the hole filled. We could find a promising young guy and throw him on the practice squad.
Did you not read the 2nd paragraph that you block quoted from my post?
Of course it’s the parent’s responsibility, but if you think children aren’t influenced by things other then their parents than you’re sadly mistaken.
Saying it’s an athletes responsibility to raise our kids because they make millions is simply a copout.
Who said that?
I clearly said it’s the parent’s job, but athletic heroes have an influence. Just like Hannah Montana and their creepy uncle with the lazy eye and their friends at school. It’s our job as parents to not let them be unduly influenced by the bad influences, of which, by his actions, Larry Johnson is one.
DON'T PANIC.
Difference being fans posting on HH aren’t public figures earning millions of dollars with tens of thousands of impressionable kids looking up to them
is where you said that!
If “Hannah Montana” has that big of a negative influence on your child….you simply aren’t doing your job! That’s all I am saying. Do they have an influence….potentially….but a parent has every opportunity to intervene.
It’s our job as parents to not let them be unduly influenced by the bad influences, of which, by his actions, Larry Johnson is one.
That’s exactly what I am saying……..so what does that have to do with Larry Johnson playing football?
That’s not saying that it’s athlete’s jobs to raise our children and I’m not quite sure how you could even extrapolate that from that sentence, especially when I clarified it in the next paragraph.
what does that have to do with Larry Johnson playing football?
Nothing, but the discussion isn’t about him playing football, but about his character and your comparison to the behavior of the average HH poster.
DON'T PANIC.
I still don't think it's that far fetched.....
to say we aren’t that different. I know I for one, have hit someone I shouldn’t have (not a girl), skipped out on working when I shouldn’t have, and have called someone a derogatory name in a place where a lot of others have heard me. I know I am no saint…..but I think I am a pretty good guy. I just don’t hold others to a level that I myself, don’t continually maintain. Do I do those things now…..no….I have matured over time (arguable), but I am also older than LJ. These guys get millions when they are 21……yes….they are going to have issues. Get over it…..watch football…..because it’s football. That’s it….simple!
Dismissing it because it’s just football is what enables and even encourages some players to act as they do. If you don’t draw a line somewhere or hold them to the same standards you’d hold yourself to then you’re essentially promoting their behavior.
DON'T PANIC.
I am not saying to not hold them accountable....
but that their employers job. Not mine! Do I want to watch a cold blooded killer play? No! Do I care if he has a DUI like the guy that works in my office…..do I care if they got in trouble for public intoxication like my old roommate…..do I care if they got busted with an ounce of weed….like my same old roommate…..NO! They are just like us….they just get paid better!
I am not saying to not hold them accountable….
That is what you’re saying because you feel that it is:
their employers job.
No, it’s their own job. They’re grown men. They are responsible for their own actions, just like you or I would be.
They are just like us….they just get paid better!
Yes, and, again, they also bear the distinction of being looked up to and imitated by impressionable children.
They know they are in the spotlight and that anything they do will be blown out of proportion. You can argue about the fairness or unfairness of the media’s attention if you like, but that’s not the issue. They know what they’re getting into when they sign on the dotted line and cash that check, and guys like LJ just don’t care because they’re too self-absorbed.
There are countless athletes who want to make it to the pros. All I’m saying is that if some of the ones who do make it aren’t willing or able to do all of what their job requires, like maintaining a good public image, then let someone who can play instead.
DON'T PANIC.
There are countless athletes who want to make it to the pros. All I’m saying is that if some of the ones who do make it aren’t willing or able to do all of what their job requires, like maintaining a good public image, then let someone who can play instead.
They aren’t good enough….that’s why they aren’t pros
My comment about accountability…..is a general remark saying that it isn’t my job…or your job…to hold them accountable. It is their employers job. If they cross the line…it is up to the people whom lose and make money off these guys to make those choices. You think we are privy to everything like the teams are? If you want to hold them accountable….then just don’t watch…..that’s the only thing you can do!
They aren’t good enough….that’s why they aren’t pros
The difference between an almost-pro and a pro is pretty slight. There are only so many positions and it’s a misstatement to say that those not playing in the NFL aren’t because they’re not good enough. There are more than a few who probably are, but just didn’t get the right set of circumstances and so play in the CFL or Europe or wherever. Regardless, if losing a couple dozen or so bad apples to slight downgrades in athletic ability but upgrades in actually being a decent human being is the price, so be it.
Re: accountability – That’s the entire gist of my argument. We as fans and parents and, ultimately, as the people who pay their salaries by buying tickets and merchandise need to hold them accountable and not enable their behavior just because “they’re good players” or “hey, it’s just football and I just wanna watch 300lb guys ram into each other and not worry about that stuff”.
DON'T PANIC.
By the way....
I am not attacking you. It’s just my opinion and the way I see sports and the way I raise my kids to see sports and entertainment. I have always geared my kids to be fascinated in real life heroes and make it clear everything else is entertainment. I just hate hearing parents blame everything but themselves for their or their child’s shortcomings. I think it’s something you have to take seriously….and you are on duty all the time. Just my 2 cents. I already have my 2 designated arguing partners……so we are going to have to just agree to disagree. LOL!
We’re essentially already agreeing, but sticking on the level of influence outside forces have on children.
DON'T PANIC.
I think that most of us that are parents...
encourage our kids into playing sports, especially if we played ourselves…..and we watch, and they watch with us and they are kids, and there are some great role models out there. As a parent to a younger child, if/when you start to see the gravitation towards the bad role models (since they are the ones that get all the media attention) it is time to observe, communicate……bad attitude atheletes can be great ice breakers for the "OK this is why this is so wrong conversations)…the real problem is when the kids start getting scouted…then it gets tough to validate good decisions as a parent against the "show me the money mentality……AH is fortunate….I nominate LeBron as prick of the year so far.
If we are sticking to just athletes....
I agree. If we open it up…..I say BP are the pricks of the year.
You don't think.....
anyone has peed in public somewhere…..maybe an alley behind a bar…..the parking lot at FedEx? That’s illegal…..that’s public urination….and if someone sees your little weenie…..that’s indecent exposure. No chance any of the high class people of HH have ever done this!
Did this thread
just go to talking about peeing in public?
Man, you guys are really football deprived.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
I get your point - the wording was just a little funny
I mean, who hasn’t robbed a bank, committed a couple of ax murders, etc? Just kidding.
LJ
Let me know when LJ walks into a night club and shoots himself in the leg or worse yet somebody else. Sure he’s an idiot, but a lot of good football players are. His mouth is his worst enemy. He should just shut the hell up, but there are a lot of football players in the NFL who stick their foot in their mouths.
Frankly, I’m not concerned with the “public image” of the Redskins. I’m much more concerned with winning football games. The more important question about LJ is whether he has anything left in the tank as a football player. If not, then we cut him. It’s as simple as that. If he still has the talent to help us win football games he stays. Although I would have him on a short leash should he get charged with a more serious offense.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Hogs Haven
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
