"I can't really speak on [behalf of] Albert. We have moved on as a team. If he shows up he has to prove to us he is back for the organization and not all about him...He would have to leave the BS at the door...Negativity around positive and optimistic people won't work. He will need to work hard and prove himself by showing that he's trustworthy and reliable in the scheme and as a teammate....The chemistry is always a starting point first and foremost. However, he needed to be here to learn the scheme. There is a lot of communication involved which requires many repetitions in plays. That's how you develop trust in each other. So he's missing out on everything." - Andre Carter
Interview via thehogs.net
Andre also talked about how the fans will treat Albert at training camp, which is a VERY interesting question. Who boos at camp?? (although we did boo the Redskins after the 9-7 home win versus the Rams)
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OK....I am off the fence....
I want this guy to stay right were he is……I haven’t read the full interview yet, but I love this quote. Well said Andre!!
Carter has always been a class act
It always drives me nuts that people gave Haynesworth credit for Carter’s 11 sacks last year, as if that was the only difference between ’08 and ’09. He was unhappy with 4 sacks in ’08 and busted his ass all offseason, getting in better shape and refining his technique, and the results followed.
Maybe the recent post about Haynesworth’s (negligible) effect on the pass rush will help him get the credit he deserves. The idea of releasing him or giving him away cheap after a Pro Bowl-caliber season is crazy. 3-4, 4-3, 5-2, whatever, he’s earned at least a chance to prove himself here.
Bored and broke.
Who boos at camp??
I fashion myself as an expert on booing (being an Eagles fan and all), and I would say that’s this is no-brainer, absolutely 100%, must-boo situation. If you don’t boo the living bejesus out of Haynesworth, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Not booing him would be the equivalent of a mother finding crack in her kid’s sock drawer, and then making him mac and cheese.
I’ll even take it a step further… Every other player on that team wants you to boo the crap out of him.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Oh, I full-heartedly agree he deserves to get booed
I just can’t remember a time anyone has been booed in training camp before. Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton probably have.
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Andre is a smart guy, and his comments are sad and sobering to us guys who really want Albert to come out and play as usual. We need him, but if Carter is right, he won’t help.
I have never met Andre Carter...
and could not see his face or hear his voice in this interview. I don’t find his comments to be sad or sobering at all (in fact I toast him for his comments) He is right, WE DON"T NEED HIM. Yes he is a beast,a nd yes it would be lovely to have someone with his physical capabilities anchoring our D-line, but we don’t need him. All eyes are on him because he signed a $100,000,000 contract (I know that number is skewed, but that is how it is played out in the media) so all eyes are on him to see if he lives up to this ridiculously lucrative deal. Guess what, HE CAN’T!!! It looks like we will be playing quite a bit of 3-4 defense this year, the interior linemen (NT or any DL for that matter) is not the place where we need “star” quality players to succeed, its all about blitzes and disguising coverages. We have great athletes at the LB position. Is it a damn shame? of course it is. I am not raving mad anymore, but I do believe his negative contribution to the team outweighs the positive.
Carter
In interviews he seems like a terrific guy – smart, dedicated, notoriously hard working. One of my favorites. He was thought to be one of the guys who would be hurt by the 3-4 because he is too small to be a DE in the 3-4 (but terrific in the 4-3), and did not like playing LB in it when he was in SF. His name was bandied about as trade bait. But he is supposed to have adapted to it very well. Let’s hope.
from what I know
which admittedly isn’t much, this 3-4 scheme will be much different than the one he ran in SF. The good news is that all the positives you mentioned (smart, dedicated, hard-working) can go a long way to compensate for not being the “ideal size” for the position.
Sad and sobering
I only meant “sad and sobering” because Carter’s remarks probably reflected the attitude of a number of key people on the team – and that could make it very hard for Albert to ever come back and contribute (he would get defensive, sulk, not learn the new system, etc). So, he effectively wouldn’t play – and I think that would be a great loss. If Albert had been able to force a move back to the 4-3, Carter himself would probably be happy (everybody says he is not a good 3-4 linebacker). It seems to me the team ought to forgive and forget, and welcome him back. Andre’s comment about learning the system are very important, but I would hope AH could learn the system by the regular season.
HH posted the April interview with AH, in which he seemed very positive or at least “accepting” about the 3-4. The change in attitude is amazing, and I just wondered what the heck happened to change him. Several recent articles, especially from Jason Cole, said that Mike Shanahan took the hard line on NT, laying down the law, reversing Haslett’s more accommodating description of AH’s role, very possibly irritating AH and making him think that somebody was lying to him. Cole’s article in Yahoo Sports today repeats AH’s side of things, and mentioned that the idea that Shanahan was the one who changed and took a hard line (“you will play NT”) came from the “Haynesworth camp” (actually, I didn’t know he had a “camp”). Whatever, it seems to me that, if we want to win, the guys ought to kiss and make up – help AH get up to speed, etc. And I think any booing would be, at a minimum, counterproductive. One of the writers ranked the various D-lines. They had us #9, presumably with AH, but likely to drop because this writer thought AH wouldn’t play. In other words, it’s highly likely that we’re a lot better with him than without him (regardless of the happy talk coming from Haslett and others). By the way, if it was Shanahan’s hard line that caused the trouble, it would seem to be easy to fix – just let AH play DT (in the 4-3) and DE (in the 3-4), not NT. As somebody above mentioned, we don’t need stars in the 3-4 D-line, and Kemoeatu ought to be fine.
Wait...because someone in the MEDIA says that's what happened, that's definitely what happened?
Sorry, I’m not buying it. Cole is a hack. I read both his articles, and he seems to be hell bent on defending Fatsworth. The media skews a lot of things, and I don’t know what to believe. I’m sure as hell not going to believe AH (he’s lost all my respect) and I’m VERY hesistant to believe Cole. I want to know what the other “recent articles” are, and where they’re from. Please, enlighten me with links.
He deserves to get booed. What he did was asinine. Fans should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want. He screwed us and the Redskins. I show up for my job, and trust me, I’m not getting paid many millions of dollars, so I don’t like the way Haynesworth’s puny mind works. In this economy, do you really enjoy seeing some greedy football player like him act the way he did? Taking the money and running (I use the term running loosely…I doubt AH can run very fast)? When I think about it, I have every right to boo AH…I’m through with giving him the benefit of the doubt.
/rant
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
by DCO'sfan on Jul 1, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i back this post 100%. I’m gonna hold out on my baretnding and hardwood flooring jobs for more money and better use of my assets.
Wait - Media
Fair enough. I really dislike and distrust the media, too, and don’t know much about Cole, except maybe that he is taking a different tack on AH than most sportswriters. He was answering some really tough questions on economic issues relating to some holdouts, and the answers were really well written and thoughtful. But as you said, I don’t know what to believe. I can’t remember other articles (except I thought at least one painted the same picture), so I may have been reading between the lines of various quotes. Also, the clear fact that AH changed his tune dramatically between April and June – seeming very willing in April, terrified in June. So – why? What happened? It must have been something from Shanahan, because I think Mike was the last coach that talked to him, and the only one that could have taken a hard line on playing NT. The Haslett-Shanahan disconnect (on playing NT) could easily be what set him off. By the way, on the holdout – he held out for awhile over principle, not money like most do. Cole was talking about three other holdouts in his article – some having been offered huge contracts. So why the angst? His contract was big, but not ridiculous compared to many others. It’ll probably end up in the $50-60 million range,and be surpassed in just a year or two. His agent drove a hard bargain, and Snyder giving so much guaranteed money was a mistake, but Dan is not the only sucker in the league – NFL and especially baseball owners are really feckless. And it’s his money, and he’s not complaining, and he may have learned a brutal lesson (if he is indeed putting Allen on a tight budget). By the way, I never liked Albert staying away, and think he’s both immature and not too bright, but not a bad guy. The media (and they are rotten) always interpret his troubles in the worst possible way (until Cole came along).
where do you think snyder gets all his money....
7 dollar beers and rediculous club level seating, $35 parking passes…..
His contract was pretty big
And it’s turned out to be a horrible mistake. The point is that we took a stupid chance on a problem player and this what we get: same old drama from Redskins park. The new organization wants to start a new chapter — more disciplined and more focused — and Haynesworth is in his own little world, thinking my way or the highway. I just don’t feel like empathizing with him. Maybe I’m not being fair to Cole (I’ve never liked him before, but come to think of it I don’t respect most Yahoo writers), but he seems awfully biased. It almost felt like he was ignoring all of AH’s problems — both legal and professional — and all of his verbal diarrhea. And what were we left with? A hack sportswriter dictating what may have happened. Even if Shanahan told him he had to play NT…well, think about it like your job. If your boss told you that he/she was doing something different with a project you were working on with a team (sorry if this analogy doesn’t apply to you specifically, but play along) — would you sit at home because you didn’t like the course of action your boss was taking? And what if the rest of the team accepted what the boss did, and you were the only one who didn’t? But WAIT, there’s more! What if you found out that you could somehow get your money without coming back to work on the project, but if the boss fired you because of your little protest, there would be no ramifications? Looking at it from that end, it looks like a pretty sweet deal, right? But the point is, if that happened, you would probably never get a very good job again.
But AH is a dominant DT in a 4-3 system. Yes, he’s got a lot of baggage, but that doesn’t mean some dumb team won’t take him on. We did it! It doesn’t seem fair that some fat, lazy dumbass can get paid millions of dollars and not even show up for his job. It makes me very, very bitter.
Another note: I think Albert IS a bad guy. Take his legal problems: not even apologizing to a guy he paralyzed for life? Knocking up a stripper (that may not be true, but I’m not so sure it isn’t)? There are others I think I’m blanking on, but AH isn’t innocent outside of Redskins park. He’s not just immature and stupid, he’s pretty immoral.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Nothing to do with Haynesworth...
but I think it’s really encouraging that almost all the players are in line with the organization here. You almost never see that happen, it’s usually at least a more even divide on backing the player. The attitude seems to be like “we’re working hard and building something special, and if you’re not here you’re not here”. Which is awesome.
Bored and broke.
I would probably boo him
unless London Fletcher told me not to…I never cross the Fletch man….
by Jornek on Jul 2, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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