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Poll: Who Is the Worst Redskin of All Time?

With it being a slow time for news, I thought it'd be fun to ping the community on who's the worst Redskin player of all time. I don't mean worst signing.

Worst on-field performance.

Given the better state of the Redskins, I'm praying feeling that this will be the last time we have to conduct a poll of this nature...but fun none the less. We've killed the bad signings to death, so let's focus on some stats. Thinking back through history, a lot of QBs and WR's come to mind, including Norm Snead, Michael Westbrook, Jeff George, and Tim Hasselbeck. We cover all the stats after the jump, so please give a look over before voting. I also cover the players you think should be on there (like Deion), and I explain why they're not. 

All the candidates/stats/bios after the jump "

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Norm Snead
:  It' a good thing they didn't keep sack records in the early 60's because Norm would have been a leader. These QB rating numbers are god awful. If Jason Campbell could muster an 86.4 QB rating with the Redskins OLine last year, I really question what Norm was doing in the pocket. Snead only won 9 games in his threee years with the Redskins, and that bad pace continued through his entire career. (He only had 1 winning season in his 16 years in the league). OUCH.

After hearing stories of the woeful 60's, and looking at his career stats, I'm really leaning towards Norm.

Year

Age

Tm

G

GS

QBrec

Cmp

Att

Cmp%

Yds

TD

Int

Y/A

AY/A

Y/C

Y/G

Rate

1961

22

WAS

14

14

1-12-1

172

375

45.9

2337

11

22

6.2

4.2

13.6

166.9

51.6

1962*

23

WAS

14

14

5-7-2

184

354

52.0

2926

22

22

8.3

6.7

15.9

209.0

74.7

1963*

24

WAS

14

14

3-11-0

175

363

48.2

3043

13

27

8.4

5.8

17.4

217.4

58.1

 

Michael Westbrook: Broken wrist, knee, hamstring injuries...ego. Never a dull moment with Michael. Only year they made the playoffs in his career was his breakout year. Of course there was the infamous melt down where he pummeled Stephen Davis at practice.

Career

Season

Team

Receiving

Rushing

Fumbles

G

GS

Rec

Yds

Avg

Lng

TD

Att

Yds

Avg

Lng

TD

FUM

Lost

2002

CIN

9

4

8

94

11.8

26T

2

1

1

1.0

1

0

--

--

2001

WAS

16

16

57

664

11.6

76T

4

2

8

4.0

8

0

--

--

2000

WAS

2

2

9

103

11.4

21

0

--

--

--

--

--

--

--

1999

WAS

16

16

65

1,191

18.3

65T

9

7

35

5.0

12

0

3

1

1998

WAS

11

10

44

736

16.7

75T

6

1

11

11.0

11

0

--

--

1997

WAS

13

9

34

559

16.4

40T

3

3

-11

-3.7

7

0

--

--

1996

WAS

11

6

34

505

14.9

45

1

2

2

1.0

2

0

--

--

1995

WAS

11

9

34

522

15.4

45

1

6

114

19.0

58T

1

--

--

TOTAL

285

4,374

15.3

76

26

22

160

7.3

58

1

3

1

 

Tim Hasselbeck:  In 2004, he never saw action. In 2003, he played in 7 games (starting in 5) and threw for 7 INTs and 5 TDs. He had a 63.6 QB rating with a 53.7 completion % (95/177). He also fumbled the ball three times, two which were lost.

Brandon LloydBrandon has to be up there. He got into Gibbs' doghouse early with his attitude and poor work ethic. His 2007 season was cut short after breaking his collar bone in practice.

Receiving

Year

Age

Tm

G

GS

Rec

Yds

Y/R

TD

Lng

R/G

Y/G

YScm

Fmb

AV

2006

25

WAS

15

12

23

365

15.9

0

52

1.5

24.3

365

1

3

2007

26

WAS

8

1

2

14

7.0

0

9

0.3

1.8

14

0

0

 

Jeff George played in only 8 games his two years as a Redskin. In 2001, he played in 2 games in which he threw for 3 INTs and 0 TDs with a QB Rating of 34.6 going 34-42 in passes (54.8%) and fumbling two times. George started 0-2 (with helped of missed FGs in both games) and was replaced by Tony Banks, who lost the next 3 games then amazingly won 5 in a row.

Season

Team

Passing

Rushing

Fumbles

G

GS

Comp

Att

Pct

Yds

Avg

TD

Int

Sck

SckY

Rate

Att

Yds

Avg

TD

FUM

Lost

2001

Washington Redskins

2

2

23

42

54.8

168

4.0

0

3

6

38

34.6

4

0

0.0

0

2

1

2000

Washington Redskins

6

5

113

194

58.2

1,389

7.2

7

6

12

94

79.6

7

24

3.4

0

3

1

Deion Sanders: He's an easy guy to target since he was a Cowboy, but he did muster 4 INTs in his single season with the Redskins (2000). The most he ever had in Dallas in any season was 5 and for his career 7. With the Redskins, Deion had 41 tackles, 1 FF, and recovered 2. He was a bit disappointing in the punt returns, returning 25 for an average of 7.4 yards and 0 TDs...pretty much his career low. So, since his numbers were par for his career, he didn't make the poll.

Update1: Adam Archuleta:  I didn't include Adam since he was more of a bad signing than a bad player. He played well on Special Teams, had an INT, and played the run well. He got killed in coverage and was benched. I didn't think he warranted to be on the list with players that sucked for multiple years.

Update2: Heath Shuler: I had him in my notes and missed copy and pasting him in. Heath was a disaster in biblical proportions. Galaxy proportions. The Kwame Brown of Football.

Year

Tm

G

GS

QBrec

Cmp

Att

Cmp%

Yds

TD

Int

Lng

Y/G

Rate

Sk

1994

WAS

11

8

1-7-0

120

265

45.3

1658

10

12

81

150.7

59.6

12

1995

WAS

7

5

3-2-0

66

125

52.8

745

3

7

44

106.4

55.6

13

1996

WAS

1

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

0.0

0

>>>> Dishonorable Mentions: Durant Brooks, Danny Wuerffel (who went 2-2 with a 70.9 QB Rating), Taylor Jacobs, Trung Canidate, Shar Pourdanesh (the only Iranian NFL player to this day). 

Poll
Who was the worst Redskin player of all-time?
Heath Shuler
306 votes
Norm Snead
34 votes
Jeff George
132 votes
Michael Westbrook
55 votes
Brandon Lloyd
223 votes
Other (I'll explain in the comments)
37 votes

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had to go Westbrook on this one.....

His is the only jersey I have left (not even really a jersey, one of those adidas deals with the iron-on numbers) and I think that we are in the neighborhood of 0-9 when I have worn the jersey on game day…..on a side note/update on my first drunken post, I think I am leaning towards the Rap jersey, although seriously considering looking for a Carlos Rogers, you don’t see that one everyday and I don’t mind throwing a little love/support his way. I just wish I could be more confident that he will be around for a while.

by MagicHat on Jun 8, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Max Zendejas

That guy was a poor replacement for Mark Moseley. What a disgrace.

by BAFGA on Jun 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Really?

JC was average to the max, but a helluva lot better than George, Ramsey, Shuler and Ferrote.

Norm Snead’s numbers (TD/INT ratio) remind me of Rexxy’s. Fans must have absolutely cringed every time he went back to pass.

I’m going with Westbrook because he was supposed to be a total stud and turned out to be a total turd. Plus, not only did he kill me as a Redskins fan, but I have to live with the memory of he and his CU mates beating U-M on an absolutely insane Hail Mary play on a pass from Kordell Stewart of all players. So he double shat on me.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jun 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

JC is 10x the QB Heath Shuler, Wuerful or Shane Matthews ever was

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Had to go with Lloyd on this one but Westbrook was a very close second

When you factor in everything it’s hard not to vote for Lloyd. Westbrook on the other hand had decent to good stats for a few years however, he was such an ass, I think he’s a very close 2nd. I hated that guy and still do for what he did to Stephen Davis. Rumor has it mommy didn’t give him enough attention when he was growing up so he acted like a jerkoff his whole life. He definitely gets the lifetime achievement for the biggest NFL jerkoff ever award.

by skinsymets on Jun 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Archuletta should have been on here

So should Wuerfful and Shane Matthews.

Westbrook was a massive bust for the franchise, but he did play for a while and got playing time, which is more than most of these other losers can say.

I think Tim Hasselbeck should be exempt b/c he was really a back up.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

HEATH SHULER.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Danny Wuerful

But I wouldn’t put Westbrook, Shane Mathews or JC on a list of the worst Redskins. JC wasn’t great, but not bad, either. I would think Shuler and Archuleta should have been on the list.

by Donnio1234 on Jun 8, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I voted for Mark Rypien.

I know he won a Super Bowl, but the only reason he completed any passes was that his receivers were awesome. He would throw high and in, Art Monk twists his body to get it and would almost get killed in the process. He throws deep to Gary Clark and he has to stop and adjust his route to get the ball. Everything he threw was too high and I felt the Redskins won so many games that year in spite of Mark Rypien not because of Mark Rypien. Every team has busts and every team has players that never reached their full potential. The real crime is when a player is lauded as a great quarterback and isn’t even an average quarterback. I think this makes him worse because of the credit he is undeservedly given.

by DavidE on Jun 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce Smith

I’d like to suggest Bruce Smith. Don’t let the sack totals fool you (he had 29 in four years). He single handedly rendered the Redskins rushing defense ineffective his final year because he would line up near the sidelines in order to get a better line on the quarterback in his silly pursuit of the sack record. They were 25th in the league in defense that year, and all we got for his stay was the opportunity to purchase a commemorative “Sack King” coin and higher ticket prices.

by DCLance on Jun 8, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Has to Be Shuler

For all of those voting for Brandon Lloyd – at what point was Lloyd expected to carry the franchise? He was a number 2/3 receiver. Who cares if he stunk? Heath Shuler was drafted third overall with the only reward for the Skins worst season ever. He was going to be the next Troy Aikman and Norv was going to groom him. Our first signal that he was going to be utterly attrocious was his inconceivably low (until Vince Young came along) score on the wonderlic. Then he graced the field proudly wearing that beautiful number 5 that Jeff G. would one day sport…and he shit the bed like no other quarterback in histrory. You guys think JC looked lost? Go back and watch Shuler games. He was a disgrace. So the Skins suffered their worst season ever, got a number 3 pick out of it, and then drafted a guy who Gus Freaking Frerotte beat out. Brandon Lloyd? Really? Is the recency effect that strong?

I also considered the man drafted to be Heath’s Michael Irvin – Michael Westbrook. But here’s the thing – Westbrook had some decent seasons and he stuck around for a while. 1999 was a great year, plus he has the greatest set of punches in Redksins history for wailing away on Stephen Davis during training camp.

The rest of the guys sucked and Jeff G. was a complete dick, but none of them copare to Shuler in terms of sheer terribleness. I’ll give Kevin the benefit of the doubt on Snead because that’s well before my time. But if you toss out the old 60s Skins who all sucked — Shuler is hands down without question the worst Skin of the last 40 years.

Brandon Lloyd? Who cares about Brandon Lloyd?

by jayisthemac on Jun 8, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree...gotta take the positional / depth expectations into consideration

Otherwise, there are plenty of Redskins who’ve been on rosters, but never even played a game who are clearly ‘worse’.

Lloyd might have been penciled as the #2 receiver at some point, but he was demoted to the #3 and so stats should be against either of those. He also at least was consistent in his time with the 49ers (though never since), so I’m guessing some scheme issues are partly to blame.

by KenPat on Jun 8, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're probably right about shuler > worst than > Lloyd

i guess the best arg i can think of for lloyd is that he literally did not take the field for what, like a season or something? Still, you’re right, that pales in comparison to the offensiveness of shuler’s impact

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jun 8, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heath Shuler

He was a holdout, which really hurt him. Never made up the lost time. Smart guy, and a better congressman than QB.

by Donnio1234 on Jun 8, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andre Johnson

First round pick in 1996 Draft and never played a game for us… only played 3 games in his entire career (all in his third and final year in the league for the Lions)

Hail to the Redskins!

by b_fizzle on Jun 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

very true

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst on-field performance

I guess you have to get on the field to meet the criteria…

Hail to the Redskins!

by b_fizzle on Jun 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

also what is getting missed here....

not “biggest disppointment” either….or biggest bust

by MagicHat on Jun 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Snyder

and I’m not kidding

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Jun 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaun Suisham?

I know he is only a kicker, but he has lost a number of games for us all on his own, missing field goals that college kickers sink regularly. Probably the polar opposite of clutch. Glad we got rid of Suisham.

by BigOLinemen on Jun 8, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

finally

surprised his name isn’t on the list. He is the polar opposite of Kobe, chokes under pressure. I can’t tell you how mad i was when he missed a 22 yard field goal to ice the game against New Orleans during their undefeated run.

by Nayeem JohnWall Chowdhury on Jun 8, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suisham!

i’m with the rest of the Suishamites

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jun 8, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea,

he was on the team when they went 0-5 to 5-5, but he also is IMO the only quarterback in Redskins history to hold onto the ball longer than Jason Campbell… which is pretty bad.

by preppiejack on Jun 10, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I seem to recall....

Joe Theismann being back there long enough to eat a ham sammich (pun intended)…but he had the OL to get away with it.

by MagicHat on Jun 10, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Banks was decent

He’s nowhere near the class of Shuler or Wuerffel.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 9, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEATH SHULER!!

This is a no brainer!!!….Not only is he the worst Redskin of all time but he is a top ten worst professional football player of all time!!!!

by JONAH 31 on Jun 9, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Heath Shuler

Wow – Heath winning another election!

by Donnio1234 on Jun 9, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jun 10, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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