The Thursday Line - The Washington Redskins Go Big With Their Running Back Committee
I told Kevin yesterday that I had done my kicking and screaming on the Brian Westbrook possibility and I was finished with it. I am not prepared to discover the silver lining just quite yet though (too early in the morning for that for even me.)
But if Brian Westbrook comes to D.C., the committee we will have in the backfield could rival some of the better committees we have seen in recent years or even farther back. Congress will have nothing on this group. Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, Willie Parker and Brian Westbrook...yikes. At the rate we went through running backs last season, coupled with the rate at which the above listed gentlemen get injured, it stands to reason we would hit the bye week with a Quinton Ganther type again, but it could be fun to watch however brief it lasts. I should note that when it comes to running backs, I don't get into arguments about durability. They all get hurt. They all miss time. The exceptions to the rule make no sense, like when Curtis Martin led the league in rushing in 2004 at the ripe old age of 31, or when 1st round picks with all the potential in the world get hurt before making any kind of mark whatsoever. Ki-Jana Carter hurt his knee on the third carry of his first preseason game. So I am beyond debating the health and injury issues of running backs. If these Four Horsemen (I will work on that one) begin the season on our roster, I am prepared to believe we have as good a chance at making it through the season with at least one still standing as we do with any other four running backs. But there are other things we can debate about this crew--and let's mix it up a little. (After all, I left out the running backs last week leaving this whole conversation for today.)
Over/Under: Receiving Yards for Clinton Portis---400
Clinton has not gone over 400 yards receiving in a season ever in his career. The closest he came was in 2007, when he got 389 yards. So the Under screams at all of us. I hate screamers. I will take the over. It isn't just that McNabb throws it to the running back more. It is that he throws the ball more period. Sure, the running game in Washington will be more robust than the ones he had to lean on in Philly under Andy Reid. But the balls that come Clinton's way this season will be less of the checkdown variety and more of the designed play variety. I expect this to result in more yards after the catch for CP in 2010. He only needs to average roughly 30 yards receiving over the course of 13 games to get to the Over here.
Over/Under: Rushing Yards for Willie Parker---400
I have no idea where to set this number in order to get people to take the Over (zero?) I am taking the Under because even if he is productive, he will be buried on the depth chart. He will need to break some long runs to even have a chance here if you ask me. Unlike others, I do believe he makes this team. But I don't believe he makes a huge impact. However, I think he makes a bigger contribution than say...T.J. Duckett. Any takers on that bet?
Over/Under Punt Returns for Brian Westbrook---.5
Now we're talking! This has stupid written all over it. But keep in mind we are talking about the Redskins return game...we should be so lucky to graduate to the stupid level. You are basically betting on there being one situation this season where we need it bad and Shanahan looks down the bench and sees he has one of the best returners in the game with what is most likely a very clean jersey. I will take the Over here because I think that if you can get past the age, concussions, absurdity, and lack of reasoning here, it makes perfect sense. The Redskins punt return game has been historically mediocre over the last decade or more, but we have captured lightning in a bottle from time to time. Santana has come in and pinch hit a home run. And wasn't that Eric Metcalf that stood up off his couch and returned one for a touchdown for Marty back in 2001? (It was.)
Over/Under: Touchdowns for Larry Johnson---10
This was a tough one to land on too...I can see him getting a lot of carries inside the 10-yard line in 2010. I took the safe bet with Clinton earlier so I am going all-in on the Over here. First of all, I think Larry Johnson is a lock to make this team. Secondly, I think his role will be clearly defined early in the season, when we will be to afford such delineations. With Clinton as the "starter", LJ will be used to spell him and will most likely come in on short-yardage and goal-line situations (no, Mike Shanahan has not called me yet to confirm this.) I remember a certain Gerald Riggs that served a similar role as a backup to Earnest Byner. Riggs tallied 11 rushing touchdowns in 1991 for Joe Gibbs. Larry Johnson could find himself in these waters in 2010. Given McNabb's propensity to throw it in the red zone, I think LJ will have to take at least a couple to the house from outside the 20, but it says here he is more than capable of doing so.
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1 – I need to see what the RBs the Texans had did receiving-wise before I bite on this one. Makes more sense to look at that than what DM did for Andy Reid. I’ll go with under because DM will pitch to Brian out of habit before he hits CP.
2 – Willie P is not going to make the team. So I’m hedging with the under here.
3 – Over – only if Shanny gets a concussion will Brian return a kick. I can’t remember the last time he did it for Philly – so its really an under, in case you are confused.
4 – Over – for real this time. LJ looks to be the best back we have even though Shanny says CP is starting. Agree with LJ in on short yardage, but don’t forget our new TE/FB finding the end zone/1st down marker with his hands and athleticism.
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1- Under- While he will see more passes come his way, I’m thinking he’s gonna make his mark on the ground.
2- Under- If we do get Westbrook, Fast Willie is gone. There would be too many RBs on the team that don’t play ST.
3- Under- Along with the fact that it would be supremely stupid to put him out there during teams, the time in which everyone on the opposing team is looking to lay the wood to anyone and everyone in front of them, I actually believe that this staff is looking at other guys on the squad to see what they have in the return game. Unlike he who shall not be named.
4- Over- Even though I’m thinking under. And not because I don’t think he can do it, we have two redzone threats in our TE’s, a QB who’s not afraid/allowed to throw the deep ball so I’m not expecting as many trips to the RZ because of scoring from farther out. LJ does look to be a good goal line back.
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Portis provides better pass protection...
I will say under but hope like hell that both Johnson and Portis return to the form that we can count on to open the passing game. I don`t think Parker makes the team and even though Westbrook fits the system I would be surprised at him signing with the Skins. I do see Cooly having a steller year if McNab can stay off the disabled list.
not gonna wager
but it is good to see that there will be proven competition at this position for the first time in nearly 5 years.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
unfortunately, none of these guys will be in the league in 5 years.
Or even maybe 5 games.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 3, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well to be honest
that’s about the league equivalent of the tenure of head coaches too. As long as the contracts that we have with them don’t extend that long I’m not too concerned as there are always guys coming out each draft, its just that the team rarely selects any.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
These guys outside of Portis were proven years(note the plural) ago
At this time last year Betts was closer to a 1,000 yard season than LJ is now. I think we are jumping the gun on the “competition” aspect. But then again we are Skins fans so we value name recognition over anything else.
by BayAreaBullet on Jun 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
lots of ciches, little substace
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by Skins Fan '77 on Jun 6, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think their will be a suprise player to make the team at RB or definitely emerge during the season
1. Under – to many other receivers and TEs and even RBs that Portis will have that many yards receiving. If he has over 400 yards I’d expect things to be not going well.
2. Under – I’m going on the point of him not making the team. If he makes it then I may change to over.
3. Under – Why would Westbrook return any kicks at all for the Redskins?
4. Over – but just over. This is the reason I think Johnson will make the team, for these type of situations.
Haha...he SHOULDN'T return any punts
But it’s a funny league…
by Ken Meringolo on Jun 3, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is...
I’d take Westbrook and his dizzy head and busted knees over Randle El any day.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 3, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Under on all
1. Under – Portis doesn’t have great hands and Andy Reid’s pass happy offense isn’t coming with McNabb.
2. Under – I don’t see him making the team, but if he does I’d give him 200-300 with a very limited role.
3. Under – Punt retruns at this point of his career? Well, Westbrook’s career is over, so if he does make the team I fully expect him to get a season ending injury or nagging injuries. This guy is falling apart and I feel like he should just hang it up.
4. Under – Trying to put my hate for this guy aside, I feel like he will be our number two back and definitely will see his fair share of goal line situations but I don’t see him getting double digit TD’s, but he will be over 5.
by travisjh86 on Jun 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
1) Under – He has never done it before.
2)Under – I think he gets cut.
3)Under – there are better options and I am still hoping Crayton gets released and we sign him(2 returns for a td last year I believe)
4)Under- Last year LJ averaged 2.5 ypc between the tackles. The only RB in the league worse running between the tackles was Willy at 2.4(Portis also had 2.5).
I dont agree with the one on Willie Parker
Not saying he will get more, I’m saying if and when Westbrook accepts the offer, Parker will be gone. In fact I think the Interest in Westbrook is because Parker doesnt have the explosiveness they hoped he would have.

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