An Insanely Early Prediction for the 2011 NFL Draft
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 25, 2010 9:29 AM EDT
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Good times for D.C. fans. Strasburg is pitching like the second coming of Walter Johnson, the Wizards just landed the next Allen Iverson (sans weed and off-court problems), the Capitals are enjoying their individual awards while they lick their wounds, and the Redskins are becoming a respectable franchise again. So, having said that...who's going to be the next 1st round draft pick in the Burgundy and Gold?
NFLMocks.com recently posted their results last week, the first 2011 stab I've seen. A few interesting things. Joe has the Redskins selecting 20th after a 10-6 season. I thought that was a comical prediction, but after the Jammal Brown trade, I definitely won't rule it out.
So, with the 20th pick in the 2011 draft, the Washington Redskins select...
Bruce Carter- OLB- UNC
The Redskins need to continue to add pieces to their new 3-4 defensive scheme.
Not a bad guess. Andre Carter is already a questionable fix there, and Lorenzo Alexander, Jeremy Jarmon, and Chris Wilson continue to adjust to that position after being a DE prior.
Sadly, one of the Redskins 2011 team needs potentially could be WR next season (if the other 2 red shirts don't step up). Vinny flare up again! Let's not go there, though.
Who would you want the Redskins to select with that 20th pick? Mike Pouncey, the standout Center from Florida, certainly stands out on that list.
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Anything o-line would be the cat's meow for me
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Anything else and they're
smoking the catnip again.
PS – at least you didn’t go with the bee’s knees again. Another dose of Pineapple Express? :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
we also need a young qb eventually.
by RobtheRedskin on Jun 25, 2010 9:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
COLT BRENNAN COLT BRENNAN
COLT BRENNAN COLT BRENNAN
I just wanted to get it out of the way early.
Serious business.
Vinny Cerrato must run this website
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php
That should tip you off to what position they have the Redskins drafting.
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wait
before I read it, I’m going to guess wide receiver
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Only if we give away 2 draft picks
to pick up one slot in the draft to get him.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Walter’s a dope. I had a discussion with him over email based on his draft grades that I was going to post on BGN – He thought the Eagles were dumb to pass on Vladimir Ducasse with their late second round pick, instead of trading out of that position. OK, fine – No problem. I politely explained that the Eagles parlayed that pick (55th overall), into a 3 (Daniel Te’o Nesheim), (2) 4’s (Mike Kafka and Clay Harbor), (2) 5’s (Ricky Sapp and Riley Cooper), and a 5 in 2011. And I think that he sort of knew that there was really little argument against that kind of a haul for a late 2, but he still continued to persist that he’d rather “Have one superstar over 5 scrubs” in an extremely dicky way, as if Vladimir Ducasse is some sort of Anthony Munoz clone. When his argument completely broke down, he went right to trying to get under my skin by attacking the Eagles and how they were beaten badly by Dallas last year, haven’t ever won a Super Bowl, etc etc, which is basically what some of weaker commenters do, much less the owner of highly trafficked football website. He very much came off as an amateur, which was kind of surprising because his website gets an assload of hits.
Anyway, I had this whole writeup finished about our back and forth (the Q&A was to be posted as is with “to” and “from” and all the other email stuff included). Part one was the email chain itself (which was pretty funny), part two was my after-commentary, with the main premise being that it’s virtually impossible to cover all 32 teams these days and not look like an idiot, because there’s no way in hell your knowledge of each team can even remotely compete with someone following just a handful of teams, simply because you can’t possibly see them all play. I mean… do the math… 32 teams, 16 games per season… Who can possibly watch (and remember) all those games? In my opinion, you don’t know jack about a team unless you’ve seen them play… a lot. Personally, I feel like I really know two teams and would feel 100% comfortable writing about them and not getting it wrong – The Eagles and the Cowboys, the two teams that I watched the entire season. After that, I could hold my own with the Giants and Redskins (both of whom I stopped following/watching at certain point last year), and then there’s a major dropoff after that.
Not to be a conceded douche, but I felt that it was one of my best, entertaining works, and I absolutely smoked him in that debate. And then… I realized… Eff him. I’m not sending people to this A-hole’s site. And I deleted it.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
man
Yea, the drafts are so hard to predict as it is, especially with all the draft day trades that screw up the order. How can he not just admit his prediction changed based on that?? Good to know, I won’t push his site anymore either then.
The SBN site, Mocking the Draft,…that editor Dan Kadar is a super nice dude. Always returns emails right away. I haven’t gone back to see how accurate his grades and predictions have turned out yet though, but he always has good stuff.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 25, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, big fan of his work. I met the Colts’ writer at the NYC meetup, who also contributes for Mocking the Draft, and he was joking about Dan and how he sits in front of his TV 8 hours per day watching college film.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I use to write for mocking the draft
Jon Dove, www.nflmocks.com
ah, you're too big for us now?!
ha.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, not at all fellas
Jon Dove, www.nflmocks.com
The defensive linemen in the mock draft
were not getting picked early. The mock was also dated 5/25 so it was before the Brown trade which has a good chance of improving the Skins’ win-loss record. Pick 13 presumes about an 8-8 record, the same position as when Orakpo was selected. McNabb’s career win-loss record is closer to 10 wins than 9, but Walter probably factored that in. That is not saying the Skins would not go with a wide receiver sometime in the 2011 draft. Running back is a more predictable pick, but a lot depends on how well 2010 roster’s performance pans out.
by Jefferson1935 on Jun 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We're still in all OL all the time mode until I notify Allenahan of any new plans.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
+2
how about a guard or center?
If we draft in the top 12 (likely), I would like to see us trade down…we’re down 2 picks again
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Jun 25, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Pouncy
We still can get better at Guard and that is our biggest need. But otherwise I see us picking up the Best Player Available, whether its DLine, OLine, Running Back, Linebacker or Wide reciever (depending on how our recievers perform this year).
We are old enough across the board
that we may actually have to go with the BPA draft strategy. So sorry….
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
There is going to be a couple good free safetys and a lot of great WRs.
I would like to take one of them, assuming Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly do not become elite.
The Shanahan era is going to bring the Redskins back to Glory! Great QB and an actual O-line.
2011 Draft Picks
1st Rd – Demarco Murray RB Oklahoma
2nd Rd – Stephen Wiznewski G/C PSU
3rd Rd – Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse
4th Rd – Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma
or
1st Rd – Marvin Austin DT UNC
2nd Rd – Pat Devlin QB Deleware
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Unless he's Adrian Peterson Jr, I think it's wasteful to take a RB in the first round.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Yeah, your right
Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Jonathan Stewart, Rashad Mendenhall, Felix Jones, MJD, Steven Jackson, Joseph Addai, and Ronnie Brown were all “wasteful” picks.
No need to improve our running game with youth. Lets just keep signing over-the-hill guys.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Ray Rice was a second rounder
just sayin
The Shanahan era is going to bring the Redskins back to Glory! Great QB and an actual O-line.
when we have fewer desperate youth needs (OL OL OL OL), we can do it
Most of the teams you listed were in much better shape at the time than we are now. In fact, all of them were except maybe the Rams and we see how far SJax with a bad OL has gotten them.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
When you look at the success you get out of first round guys and later round guys at any position..
It makes a lot of sense to wait on RBs. Thats a good list of guys you named but there are plenty of RBs picked late producing especially compared to the lower success of picks of other positions
Can we get Vincent Jackson?
He will sit out. Here is a chance to dump Malcolm and a pick for a stud…..
We'd have to send over a high draft pick I think
I’m done with high picks and WRs..especially until the OL and DL are stable.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 25, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HEY
The caps def. Aren’t licking there wounds right considering tonite is the NHL draft, 1st round
by washfan29 on Jun 25, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I kind of agree with it
Obviously it’s way too early, but the SB Nation site Mocking the Draft is getting ready to put out their early edition, so it will be interesting to see what they say.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Love da skins
New to the site I love da skins don’t really care about next yrs draft we could win it all and have da last pick let’s just be excited for the season and beat everyone on the menu f@&k the draft skins will win it all that’s how I feel when people ask me what you think your skins record would be I always say 16-0 I not gonna say any team can beat da skins in my opinion so let’s just watch and see and act like we love da skins.So f@&k vinny f@&k zorn f@&k AH and all the haters that call thereself skins fans and are so critical of your so-called team sounds like certain people don’t like da skins unless there winning but we have new everything be excited stop crying and trying to be a GM or a draft guru the hell with the draft we will stomp any team with who we have now GO SKINS. HTTR and if you don’t love da skins stay off the site I thought this was for skins fans no haters or partime skins fans.
by Daddyssanchez on Jun 28, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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