Haynesworth's Latest Statement Is More Verbal Garbage; Vows to Attend Training Camp
Well, Haynesworth continues to blow smoke. Here's his latest statement, first reported by Rick Maese, with my justified rippings.
"Despite my current differences with the Redskins, I have always planned to attend training camp and honor my contract."
The only reason you planned to attend training camp was to guarantee the Redskins couldn't get back that $21m bonus. There is nothing honorable about that.
I am continuing to prepare for the season individually and will report on time, in shape and ready to play football.
"Continuing to prepare" insinuates that you were preparing in the past. Skipping every single OTA and minicamp is not preparation. Shanahan has not spoke with you since March, you have not one clue what the new playbook looks like, and you lied to your teammates. Is that the preparation you mean? The only thing you are continuing is the distraction for a team re-building.
Any issues I have with the club I will discuss privately and therefore do not plan to make any further public comments
Nothing is private with you. Your word is not worth anything and your actions prove that. I desperately wanted you as part of this defense, but until I hear fom Phillip Daniels and London Fletcher that you are a part of this team, you are anything but.
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This post was originally a FanShot, so I'm copy/pasting the 1 comment there onto here
RobtheRedskin : If Haynesworth shows up and plays ball, and plays well like we all know that he is capable of, then I don’t think I will be complaining.
I know he is selfish (to put it nicely), and it seems that he doesn’t care one bit about this team, but if no other team wants him, and we refuse to release him after paying him, then I won’t mind that much if he plays for us and contributes to the defense in a big way.
Is he changing his tune every month? Yes. Is he reliable? Of course not. But if he does play some snaps for us and helps out the defense, even for a game or two, then I won’t be upset.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah and I knew this girl once....
she lied to me, cheated on me, and stole my money…..but she was a good lay every now and then, so I was thinking about giving her another chance…..how do you see that scenario playing out?
pro football players are not the marrying type
A football team is a loose coalition of loose cannons, not a long-term relationship. If Haynesworth gets some sacks and the Redskins win, he will shut up until he opens his mouth again. Who knows, maybe they’ll feature him at end a bit.
That’s all wishful thinking, though. He’s a better trade chip if (1) he shuts his mouth, and (2) he at least pretends to be a good citizen at training camp.
I don’t mean to give the man too much credit. He blew it for us and for himself when he stayed out of mini-camps.
by sofutomygaha on Jun 23, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
THE QUALITY OF MERCY....
…is not strain’d,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
So, Albert has done his taking….and if he come into camp on time and in shape and proceeds to start wreaking havoc on opposing O-lines, I am MORE THAN PREPARED to forgive and forget….
Let’s face it, after a 4-12 year, I’ll take all the blessings we can get!
Is this an option?
With all this talk about what to do with Haynesworth, I was wondering if this was an option:
Keep him on the roster. Yes, he’ll burn up a roster spot, but it’s worth it. Fine him for every possible thing we can. Never let him touch a professional football field again. He can suit up every Sunday and watch from the sideline. Give him a locker outside and away from everyone else in the locker room…no rules against that, right? You want to abuse the sport by being a money grubbing waste, then you can watch. Obviously playing football isnt the most important thing, so you’ll earn your paychecks on the sideline. Six more years of watching and his career is essentially over.
Not 6 years - only 3 more years.
“League sources told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen that a $29 million “poison pill” in the fifth year of Haynesworth’s contract effectively makes it a four-year deal worth $48 million. The Redskins would owe Haynesworth a lump sum of $29 million in salary and bonuses in 2013, the fifth year of the deal. It is unlikely the team will pay the full commitment of $100 million over seven years unless the contract is re-negotiated. Haynesworth will receive $41 million in guaranteed money."
Unless the bonuses are tied to playing time and other triggers…..
by Duncan Hines on Jun 23, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
if that was all, I could deal with it......
I have no problem with loose cannons, my second favorite team growing up was the Oakland Raiders….they asked QB Ken Stabler what his pregame breakfast was, on national TV….two slim jims and a six pack….. huge Jack Tatum fan, even read his book (They Call Me Assassin)….these guys were loose cannons, Hacksaw Reynolds….also described as “characters” but when it came to team they left it all on the field. I don’t see this in AH. Yes its a bitch when your private life and your job is so so intertwined….and probably not fair….but this not news, and he was well aware when he signed on the dotted line. ….If you come WORK FOR US for seven years we are willing to give you ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS!!!….say it out loud……one hundred million dollars……..I have posted a lot of things here coming from many different directions and I very rarely swear but F**K that fat F**kin mother f**ker…… don’t want it, don’t need it…..I hope someday I am advocating for the homeless and see his ass in the soup line and I could the man/woman in charge that he is not welcome in this facility.
Screw Haynesworth, but...
Don’t release him. I don’t understand that move. If he wants to fuck with us, we can fuck right back and ruin his career by giving him a permanent spot on the sideline. OR we can get something back in a trade. Anything but releasing him.
agree
Releasing him gives him the money and the opportunity to play somewhere else. That is a terrible idea. I say let him come in and rot for a year or so. His cap hit is 9 mil over the next two years, right? I’d pay him to sit there and ruin his career. He’ll never work after that. And he won’t even have all of that money, once he is paying child support to the stripper, paying the bank their loan, and paying the dude he jacked up on the road.
This is a bad guy and he should not be coddled. He is just a bad dude.
Albert's statement - terrific
I think his statement is tremendously encouraging. I have said before that the best case scenario would be for him to roll into camp in shape and wanting to play, as if nothing had happened. He now says that’s the case. I understand Kevin’s point about missing the training camp, not knowing the playbook, etc. but I would think that he could pick it up in camp and pre-season. Maybe some work, but do-able with help – his role is probably pretty basic in most cases. The whole defense could be “rocket science”, but not AH’s role in the defense. Tiller and some of the ex-linemen on HH may have a better grasp of what he and Haslett face.
Everybody seems to want to punish him, and that’s understandable because he has acted like a selfish idiot, but we gain nothing by fighting with him. The idea is to win – and (I think) the Skins are a dramatically better team if Albert is in there playing great. I wonder about the other players, but I would think that they’d be happy if he is “really” back. They understand holdouts, business, etc, and he only missed two days of mandatory sessions (maybe he had a reason, like another lawsuit). Bottom line – if he’s in shape and wanting to play, he’s our best player, one of the greatest in the league, and a huge asset.
the thing is....
If he quit on us now, why wouldn’t he do it during the season when it matters most? All he has to do is hold his hamstring and say he needs to sit.
The distraction isn’t worth it. I can’t imagine he’s in the same share or better than last year…which means the media will have a field day on this = MAJOR DISTRACTION
Tough call…until the players back him, I’m not either.
Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 23, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I can agree with a bit of what Donnio is saying
If he is truly committed to the team and comes into training camp ready (and willing) to play, I can agree that as a 3-4 DE (or NT), learning the system would be very easy for him. Either way, his responsibility is pretty much to just attack his guy (or a gap, depending on the system) and attract two or more guys so the LBs are free. I think what he is afraid of is not having the ability to rush at all in this system, and really, if he has a play he can make, it is easy enough for him to make it. As a NT in the 3-4 (if he plays it), they do not try to get triple teamed, but their enormous size and strength require them to, in most cases, be double teamed (triple teamed for all-pros, like Haynesworth could be), but if he breaks through the triple team, he’d be there to make the play. DE would be similar, except he would likely only be double teamed.
Still, his commitment is to the team is the question. If he is committed, I would welcome him back. It is just difficult to tell. I think his commitment is really from the criticism, but if that motivates him, maybe that’s good enough?
Definitely wait and see deal.
BigO -
Interesting insight – thanks. We pretty well have to wait and see. As Kevin and others note,a lot depends on how the other players, especially London Fletcher and Philip Daniels, receive him, and that probably partly depends on Albert himself – whether he really is in shape, works hard, and most importantly, shows that he wants to be a Redskin. If he comes in with a winning attitude, it’s hard to believe that the players wouldn’t welcome him back. He seems to suggest that he is going to talk to Haslett, Shanahan, Allen or Snyder, which is good. The statement also sounded reasonable, so I wonder if he isn’t a little surprised and chastened by the overwhelmingly negative reaction to his behavior, getting him to realize that he is endangering his whole career and life. Also, his many legal troubles may make him realize that he could use some friends. He is so unpredictable (and dense) that I wouldn’t bet a large amount of money on him, but as a fan, I am encouraged by his statement.
Another question would be what has changed?
Assuming his statement is genuine (which is a long shot at best), what would make anyone think that he wants to play nose tackle now? He has said repeatedly that he doesn’t want to play there and won’t. Why would we, or any of his teammates believe that he has changed his tune here? Because he seems like such a bad dude (car wreck ruined a man’s life, knocked up a stripper and refused child support, stiffed a bank on a loan, and the things we don’t even know about), I can’t even imagine what he has cooked up for the season, but I think the bad hammy is probably the most likely.
By the way, does anyone else hate AH simply because now I am siding with a bank? The banks are the enemies and I am already fully convinced that the bank is right and AH is wrong. Damn him!
AH's troubles
I’m not his lawyer, but there are certainly two sides to all of your instances. He had an accident and is being sued. The impasse is probably about the size of the settlement – how many millions. His lawyer told him to shut up because conceding guilt could cost too much. Albert himself might be very generous, but when the lawyers get involved, you can’t be nice. The stripper set him up and he may not be the father anyway. He has said he would take responsibility if he’s the father. The loan may have been one he co-signed for a crooked or dumb friend, not knowing that he was liable (it made no sense to borrow at that time for himself). We really need the details to get any idea as to who might be at fault. Banks are not always right or reasonable. On all of these, AH could be more the victim than the bad guy. The press and you guys just jump to the conclusion that Haynesworth is always wrong, when in fact, with his money and reputation and gullibility, he is usually a target
I am trying Domino....
can’t get there…..and I am generally not overly critical or judgemental…..that kool-aid stll has a rancid taste for me
I don't know...
If AH shows up to training camp in shape and ready to play, I could be convinced to forget all the offseason BS about him. We all know he’s going to catch hell from his teammates when he finally gets back on the field. And rightly so, but and the end of the day, he’s still capable of being a game-changing DT.
This offseason has shown that he is not very smart (to put it VERY lightly), but there has to be a point where he figures out that he’s ruining his career and that his actions effect far more than just him. His ego-induced bitching and hold-out along with the fact that he has the largest contract for anyone in his position in the NFL could have long term negative effects for players negotiating contracts across the league!
If he manages to pull that big head out of that big fat A** and play some football, I bet all this hoopla will be disregarded as offseason media hype. And hell, I hope he does just that… but at this point, I’m not holding my breath.
AH's pay
As several people have mentioned, his real contract is probably about $48 million, and the Skins may have used the guaranteed feature to offset some heavy backloading – money he’ll never get. It’s not obvious that the Skins got screwed. Salaries are going up all the time, and I would guess that several guys have gotten bigger contracts recently. Whatever, who cares? It’s not my money, or yours – it’s Dan’s and the Skins’ – and they aren’t complaining. As a fan, I want to win, and to do that, we need good players. We are far more likely to win games if Albert is his usual nasty, intimidating, dominant self.
I feel like this is getting personal with him. i agree- he’s a rotten apple. can we just ignore him and let me know when he either starts or gets traded?
by les boulez bomber on Jun 23, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with Kevin
I say let him try to come into camp and play nice, but until I see London Fletcher, Phillip Daniels, and the rest of the guys say it’s alright, then it ain’t alright.
Willing to bet
That he is out early in training camp injured and spends most of the season riding the pine with said injury… Real or not… He is just not going to put his heart into his job…
Why release him and give into his demands?
He already screwed Washington over with that ridiculous contract he received. Either make him pay most of it back, then release him or force him to play or ride the bench.
I would never trade him or release him.
-Packer Fan
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Too bad teams don't vet FA like they do draft picks.
If they did no way AH would have got that type of money.
Teams go crazy in the free agent market
Players are automatically over-valued, teams out bid each other to ridiculous levels, and you almost never get good value on big name FAs
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I must be getting through to you Smuts
and you almost never get good value on big name FAs
….almost…. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
MAKE HIM SET HIS ENTIRE CONTRACT
Unless he pays the money back tell him he will set on the bench the entire length of his contract or pay the 21 million back and we will let him out of his contract and tell him to take his pick either your carrear is over or pay the money back personally i say make him set and ruin his carrear like the way he stole the money .
Why bench him?
You’re giving him a roster spot and a salary. Put him in at NT, DE, WR, wherever you want. Who cares if he doesn’t want to do it, he’s under contract. If he refuses, he loses ALOT of money. Simple as that.
Serious business.
long term view
If Shanahan and Allen are really going to establish a real team attitude then in the long run they need to send Al on his way because he’s been a distraction every year. The last thing a new coach (or manager in any environment) should do is undermine his own credibility by caving in to a selfish player. Now is the time for Allen and Shanahan to show that the team is going to be run their way.
AH reminds me of a tugboat
with a huge propeller and no rudder. He just hasn’t figured out that just because you think of something, it doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. Or, if someone tells you something, the only manly thing to do is just the opposite. Too bad Gibbs couldn’t pull a turnaround on this guy like he did ST21RIP.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
U guys talk 2 him
There are some smart fb people posting here!!
In my humble opinion I now believe that Overall it is in OUR best interest to keep him so long as he does not dismantle…His potential contributions are frightening!! The Skins are Basically a Good D team.They WILL BE BETTER THIS YEAR…Possibily Big Time Better
I am now wondering just how this new system (3-4 ) was explained to him..and by who?
There are communications problems here…FIXABLE ONES…ah needs to read some of your posts
MUST he be the N ?
Is anyone else better suited ? is there any variations that allow him to freelance?
ah needs to read some of your posts….in think that he would then become encouraged to be part of this new beginning
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