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The Thursday Line - Santana Claus On The "Naughty" List?

I find it extraordinarily intriguing that the American public as well as the media seem generally outraged when steroids and performance-enhancing substances are sniffed in baseball, but when it comes to the NFL, a much more ho-hum note is struck. Don't get me wrong, there will be plenty of discussion and debate on the issue of Santana Moss and performance-enhancing drugs over the next few months. (Memo to Wizards: Sorry Mr. Leonsis...you had a few hours in the spotlight but even the #1 overall draft pick is not going to move this one off the front page.)

I am not suggesting that the use of steroids and performance-enhancers is okay, or even that people should not be punished. I am merely suggesting that it doesn't seem to matter as much in football that these guys are doing it. It would even seem that the general consensus is that A LOT of guys are doing it in the NFL. Either way, that is not necessarily the flavor of today's Line. Maybe the after-taste...but not the main flavor.

Over/Under---Amount of games Santana Moss is suspended: 0.5
I am essentially asking you if you think he is going to be suspended. Is there a positive test? Is there a confession out of Moss? The absence of these things make it hard to place a player in the doghouse...unless your name is Roger Goodell. I will take the Over because Goodell uses the Wyatt Earp playbook. He won't back down from the issue and he is not afraid to get into a skirmish. After all, he is the law. We learned from the Ben Roethlisberger suspension that a player does not have to be charged with anything to get reprimanded by the league. If there is any legitimate smoke here, expect Roger to come out firing.

Over/Under---Players in the league you think use Performance-Enhancers: 50%
This number seems rather high, and I feel compelled to take the Under, but I find it insulting when insiders suggest that the number is closer to 10%. Let's just get it out there: do we think more than half of the players in today's NFL use some form of performing enhancing substance? I think the right number is closer to 50%, and I feel like if it is over 50%, it is considerably over.

Over/Under---Chances a wide receiver from the Redskins makes the Pro Bowl in 2010: 33%

Star-divide

This one has a lot of variables, I think. Is Devin Thomas going to break out as I have screamed at every opportunity? Is Santana Moss going to have enough stats to get in? Will Donovan McNabb add the kind of exponential value necessary to send one of our guys to Hawaii (is it back to Hawaii this year?) I'll take the Under.

Over/Under---Chances a tight end from the Redskins makes the Pro Bowl in 2010: 50%
Now you're talking. After Chris Cooley went down last season, how many times did we hear telecasters talk about Fred Davis' "Pro Bowl potential?" Cooley has the juice to get there...he has already proven he can hang with Witten at the top of the NFC. Will Davis and Cooley cannibalize each other's stats? Will our wide receivers be good enough to open up routes for our tight ends? I'm taking the Over here. I think tight end is our strength and I think the Shanahans play to that strength all season. If you like the Over here, give me a name. I am going to do the dumb thing and say Fred Davis. Sorry Fred...I probably just jinxed you.

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I'm not sure if i'm reading this correctly

but i will take the under on the 33% chance a skins receiver makes the probowl, does that mean that i still get 2/3rds of my HH-Bucks back if one does? and double up if one doesn’t? I don’t think there are percent chances on over/under
I would also like to wager all my starwars action figures on the over for Sanatana being suspended… EXCEPT BOBA FETT!!!! No matter how sure I am, I never risk the Fett man…

by skinsfan28 on May 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

We make our own rules for HH Over/Under!

Which Boba Fett action figure? Empire Strikes Back or Attack of the Clones when he was a kid? (Kevin has a whole collection of action figures of kid versions of adult characters: Anakin Skywalker as a kid, Young Indiana Jones, and all the Muppet Babies.)

by Ken Meringolo on May 20, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she promised because she was weireded out...

Your life-size replica of Betty White in a Catholic school girl costume has haunted her dreams for quite some time

by Ken Meringolo on May 20, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

well played the both of you.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on May 20, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

considering the current state of affairs.....

“Cooley has the juice to get there” might not have been the most appropriate statement you ever made ha. ha

by MagicHat on May 20, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Over

Under
Under
Under- tough one but Cooley’s coming off an injury, but still like balls coming his way. No pun of course : D

Semper Fi Do or Die

by Jeremiah_24 on May 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Bigger issue in baseball because their testing is in name only, and it's the few superstars that are involved.

It’s relatively recent for them to even do any testing at all. If the issue involved Brees, Manning, or Chris Johnson this would be just as big a story.

by KenPat on May 20, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

No comment

1) I’m withholding judgment until something other than ‘sources’ is out there.
2) Under – I think less than 5% regularly use anything as a performance enhancer, though I wouldn’t be surprised if something close to about 30% of folks use something to help them get over an injury. There might be something in those people being ‘regular’ users since almost every starter has some sort of injury minor or not.
3) Under – I think McNabb will spread it around and our TEs / RBs will be getting a good share of passes themselves.
4) Over

by KenPat on May 20, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrell Owens!!

With Santana starring a suspension in the eye, the Skins will not have a WR on the team competant enough to be a true number 1

Terrell Owens enters the picture.

Lets do it!!

by Elaw6 on May 20, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't no whether to laugh,

cry, or wet my pants after reading your post.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on May 20, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice "Add-on"

LOL

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on May 20, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

This is a really busy time of year for us, so I’ve not been able to post much. But I try to squeeze in a few jabs now and then. :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on May 20, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The days of TO being a WR1 are long gone.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 20, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

but when it comes to the NFL, a much more ho-hum note is struck.

Sadly I thought this was changing. Following the Cushings incident, I genuinely thought that most sports fans (if not the AP voters) were becoming much more outraged by PED cheating.

Personally, I wouldn’t mind if Moss went down with the “Cushing Ship of PED Outrage” if it actually led to something in the new CB that is more than just a weak 4 game suspension. As it is, though, there is no incentive to not use HGH and other hard to catch PEDs, because you obviously keep your job, keep your trophies and get a one month vacation.

by superjuan on May 20, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

HGH

I haven’t followed the drug wars, but I’ve read recently that HGH does not enhance performance, and is mostly used in small amounts to treat injuries. It may be banned because it covers up other drugs that do enhance performance. But that shouldn’t be a problem in the case of a doctor clearly and only treating an injury.

by Donnio1234 on May 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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