Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Jon Jones, Rashad Evans Reignite Rivalry

Snide Debate: How will the Carries Among the Redskins RBs be Split?

Washington Examiner columnist Rick Snider's first Redskins story was in 1983 and his work can be found at the WashingtonExaminer.com and WarpathConfidential.com.

Last week Rick and I debated how much of a role Joey Galloway will play in the regular season - this week we debate the RBs.

Topic: Say the team rushes for 1,800 yards this year, how does the yardage divide up?

The Redskins currently have signed to their roster: Portis, LJ, Willie Parker, Ryan Torain, Maurice Greer, and Keiland Williams.

Kevin: I was pretty sure the Redskins would only pick the top 2 of these 3 geriatrics, but now I might be changing my tune. From reports I've seen, both Willie and Larry are playing real hard at minicamp, and they want that #1 spot. Clinton I am really worried about. When a guy has dizziness for over a month, you can't just go into the season with him, LJ, and a speedster. Clinton technically hasn't been cleared to participate in contact drills yet - only minicamps, so they need all three. It's rather likely that one of these 3 can't make it through pre-season without getting hurt. Keeping all three leads to special teams gaps. To answer your question, I see Portis with 600 yards, Larry Johnson with 750, Willie Parker with 250, and former Broncos 5th round pick out of AZ State, Ryan Torain, with the rest. Torain has NFL experience and Shanhan likes him:

Star-divide

"He's one of the most gifted running backs I've been around for a long time. He is very similar to Terrell Davis when he came in," Shanahan said Aug. 6, 2008, the day Torain was carted off the practice field." 

Torain ran an unimpressive 4.6 at the combine, but has a great first move, so that makes him a great RB for between the tackles. After just re-reading my paragraph, and the brittleness of the 2010 RB situation, it's time to have my 8:30am pint of whiskey.

Rick: I still think Clinton is the big dog, but on this team that might only be 900 yards. I like depth, but not one for balance. Have one main runner and the others be role players. If there aren't injuries, Clinton should gain 1050 yards. Larry Johnson will get 400, Willie Parker 280. Ryan Torain is a keeper given his history with Shanahan. I'm just not sure what his role will be. Given injuries and the right side of the line a little shaky, and let's not forget that left tackle is a rookie, the running game may not be as good as the Redskins would like. That means more passing, especially if the right side falters.    

Kevin: OK, so now I'm going to battle you a bit. You just named 4 RBs, none of whom can play special teams, yet are all on the roster. So does that mean Josh Bidwell and Graham Gano are the mid-field blockers on kickoffs? And they still need a speedster. Most teams carry 3 RBs and we're looking at 5. How do you fix this? 

Rick: I think the roster spot will come off the defensive line or tight ends. They could use the H-block as the blocking tight end and just keep Chris Cooley and Fred Davis instead of three. With a 3-4 defense they might cut loose one more, though the scheme will be a 4-3 at times, too. You can't cut a linebacker in the 3-4 system and those guys play teams anyway. Sure can't go one less in the secondary. In a real jam, they could go for two quarterbacks and have one on the practice squad.    

I don't know how they can take any from the DL. Phillip Daniels just had microsurgery on his knee and almost all of the DL in camp did not play in the NFL last year. It is a bit worrisome in depth should one go down. It's going to be a tough decision for Shanahan, but obviously training camp will be very telling of everyone's health. Carrying two QBs is a good option because let's be real, if McNabb goes down...the season is lost anyway. Portis, LJ, and Torain is my final answer. Thanks again to Rick Snider...see you again next week.

Comment 14 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

here;s an idea for a trade.....

AH and Portis to Minn, in a blockbuster…..they would both be a huge asset aver there with Williams hurting, and Chester gone……Portis can throw a block for AP and make them even meaner…..my main concern is hat we face them later and might be fighting them for te Wild Card, Favre caught the tiger by the tail last year, do you really believe he can have that kind if TD/INT ratio again?….we are rebuilding tight……Prtis/AH could have huge seasons for the Vikes…..but give us they deseve, Ootagwe, and a 1st and a 3rd for the two of ’em

by MagicHat on May 12, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Otagwe. as in the Ram's safety?

I’m not sure I’m reading your last sentence correctly.

by CarverM on May 12, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, he's a Ram

he is refusing to sign his tender though and had success under Haslett. I’m certainly keeping a close eye on him.

Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 12, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And as such

I don’t understand how he fits in MagicHat’s proposed trade with Minny.

by CarverM on May 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My understanding is that if OJ doesn't sign his tender by next month

He becomes a Free agent unless the Rams match his Franchise Contract from last year. He’s not worth trading for if he will become a FA in a month IMO.

by BayAreaBullet on May 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wouldn't put much thought into it

This seems like another case of drunken commenting.

by mdm1185 on May 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the question is not how the backs will split the carries

the question is how the team is going to split the duty of carrying all the pensioners back to the team bus after games when one of the myriad ailments that strike over the hill RB’s hit them.

And then the question is are we back to Rd 8 last year after Betts went down and Rock got hurt where our feature back is a practice squader no one has ever heard of.

So much was awful last year its easy to lost track of the individual details, and the RB thing was a big detail that the Shanahallen era has either ignored of forgotten,.

OLD BACKS = TROUBLE

saying all that and being a complete hypocrite I hope we sign Westbrook, at the start of last year he was still seen as the Eagles best player by many ppl, if he is over the concussions (a big IF) he could be a valuable reciever out of the backfield for us, especially if Kelly does not take a stop forward and we lack receiving depth but there is another factor.

With our lack of depth in the secondary maybe having his brother around and seeing how hard he works will give our Westbrook the confidence and the motivation to elevate his game and become a crucial part of our Defense.

Pommylee

by Pommylee on May 12, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

+100

I am not excited by this RB corps but maybe the plan is to draft a starting RB next year.

by aFan4Life on May 13, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting point from Boswell

that bringing in all these RB’s to training camp is really meant as a way to send a msg to Portis that he is not the chosen one anymore

Pommylee

by Pommylee on May 14, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I see that

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 14, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed...

just LJ was one thing, bringing in WP as well made it obvious.

by MagicHat on May 14, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

great columnist Bos

i know its fashionable to criticise locl sports comunists but in DC ur lucky to hae Bos and thanks to the web i get to share him too

Pommylee

by Pommylee on May 14, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Media Requests please email hogshaven@gmail.com

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Arnold-schwarzenegger-kindergarten-cop_small
Trading Up Is Not The Solution. Here's why.
Super_47_small
I Ran Into Jim Haslett and We Talked QB Draft, Manning, Trading Up
Images_small
SB Nation 2012 NFL Mock Draft

Recent FanPosts

Small
Offseason Position Primers: Defensive Backs
Small
Offseason Position Primers: Defensive Line
Small
Offseason Position Primers: Offensive Line
Small
WR is the key....
Redskins2_small
WR’s the Redskins Should Consider in 2012 Draft
298012_1597734759305_1714091948_855549_1285303626_nedited_small
Would RG3 Pull a ELI/ELWAY
Small
Whats so good about Tannehill?
Small
Who will we be pursuing this FA 2012?
Small
I'm Torn...
Small
Manning to Texans

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Superbowl_small Kevin Ewoldt

Riggins_small Ken Meringolo

Editors

Fb_small Parks Smith

Chalkboard_football-opt403x300o00s403x300_small UkRedskin

Washington_redskins_helmet_small Redskins News

Authors

Badshirt2__2__small fatpickle

Paterno_tribute_small Tiller56

Small Steve Shoup

Defaukt_small HTTR4LIFE

Hh_small Ronnie Adkins