Brian Westbrook To Visit the Washington Redskins? I Guess Tiki Barber and Emmitt Smith Were Busy?
by Ken Meringolo on May 11, 2010 1:44 PM EDT
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Listen, I am all for promoting competition at every position. I can even recognize the value that a guy like Brian Westbrook could potentially provide a team with on 3rd downs. His resume is accomplished--he has proven himself in this league.
But do we have to bring in any more players that I have spent so many years wishing bad things upon? Fine, Donovan McNabb is an upgrade over Jason Campbell. I get it. I am getting comfortable with it. I am getting used to the idea that we have a potential Hall of Famer under center. The fact that he was an Eagle still chafes me. But I understand the nature of the NFL today and I am trying to be a grown-up here. Do Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen have to do everything in their power to discover the outer reaches of my new-found maturity?
Fine, I'll say it. I don't want Brian Westbrook. I could hide behind his concussions. I could hide behind his age. I could hide behind his lack of completing a full season in the NFL...EVER. But would that be fair to the literally tens of you out there who have grown to respect my opinion...have heaped your praise on me...have refrained from letter bombing my residence?
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I don't want any more Eagles. I am fine with Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, and Willie Parker. I want to see what Ryan Torain brings to the table. I want to see what Maurice Greer has in his tank. We have a saying around the Meringolo household for situations like this: "Let the St. Louis Rams deal with it." Or something like that.
I know that in these tough times, we need to open our hearts and minds to new ideas and foster an environment that allows for these new ideas to reshape our franchise. But this is still the NFL...not a Care Bears Christmas Movie. Inherent in our fanaticism for both the sport and our favorite team is the idea that there shall always be somebody to hate...despise...root against...whatever you want to call it. I do not want to root for Brian Westbrook. (For full disclosure, on top of everything else, he went to my rival high school. I went to Bishop McNamara and he went to DeMatha.)
So please...stop the insanity. We have enough aging running backs looking to prove their worth on the field. Is it that necessary to add another one? Is it that necessary to add another Eagle? Can we put a moratorium on adding any more players that spent their whole career tormenting us within our own division?
Oh yeah, and he has had a ton of concussions, is 30 years old and has never finished a full season in the NFL.
Image from 6 months ago: Philadelphia Eagles running back Brian Westbrook (36) walks off the field after being injured in the first quarter of the NFL football game against the Washington Redskins, Monday, Oct. 26, 2009 in Landover, Md. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
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Totally fine with it
We are basically dumpster diving hoping to find someone to turn back the clock. This just increases the odds that we find a viable veteran RB. Plus he complements our other backs well. Our current trio features 2 guys who need 20+ carries fo be effective and no guys who are reliable pass catchers. That trio does not complement each other at all. Westvrooks recieving ability at least brings a complement to the table. As long as we’re bringing in people years removed from being able to carry the load we might as well bring in a guy who brings an element we are sorely lacking.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No..
I am into the whole new change of scenery and direction for McNabb……Westbrook has a shorter future and less games left than Donnie V …..last thing we need is his old comfortable shoe to take away from him developing with the talent we have here….a bad move all the way around…….might only be interesting if he and Portis do the old school headbutt to get psyched up before the Dallas game and they both fall out in a concussion induced coma…..NO
Apparently they are bringing in Westbrook because McNabb has been lobbying the FO for him
Not sure how I feel about our QB being so involved in roster decisions.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda like our RB being involved in those kinda decisions, isn't it?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
well it seems destined to eventually backfire on him when his current teamates feel slighted by him advocating for other guys
He used to do that regularly in Philly and then have to mend fences with his teamates afterwards. I want him to be a team leader here and not fall into the same BS that hurt him in the Eagles locker room so much. So far it seemed like he was a completely different person than he was in Philly. This is far from encouraging.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't worry about it just yet
if he actually does make the team, then it’s time for the I told you so’s.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
????
Him openly advocating for other guys was the issue. Whether they make the team is irrelevant. Agreed it is too early to worry about it yet. It’s just a little worrisome in that he has a history of alienating teamates in that way.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What I meant was
the media said he was “openly advocating” to bring TO in here. That makes not one lick of sense, but people ran with the story anyways, and he said he didn’t.
I’m just saying wait to see if there’s actually something a little more concrete.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Ahhh
Good point. Still not convinced the TO rumor was total BS though. Will reserve judgment. I have no problem with him offering an opinion if asked just no lobbying the FO.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the Michael Vick advocation was definitely not BS
but he is being looked at with different bunch of eyes now….if he wants to advocate thats ok….and a little placating is ok…..if we take a look at him, and he performs in workouts in a way that everybody can see is valuable, and he fits the chemistry outside of Donnie V, instead creating a clique of two, then that should not effect Donnies status as our QB “leader”……and if I have not made myself clear, NO on BW!
on board with everything said Ken
don’t want him, AT ALL.
One more hit from D. Ware and god knows what will happen. Needs to stop this for his own health.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
LJ
Since you are asking this, apparently you are unaware of LJ’s excellent recieving skills out of the backfield. Add to that he is a powerful downhill runner who can get you the tough yards and rarely goes down on first contact, and he’s the perfect 3rd down back.
I think his “skills” have diminshed just like Portis and Parkers have, so I’m not very high on any of them. But my main problem with LJ is his ability to be a complete asshole. He is worse than CP in the “bad for your locker room” category. This guy has so many character issues it’s ridiculous, an entire fanbase doesn’t just start a petition to not let him break the chiefs rushing yards record for no reason.
Other than his lack of people skills (especially with women), he flat out sucks now. Look at his YPC (2.9 with the chiefs 4.4 with the bengals on limited carries). Look at how well jamaal charles did behind the same o-line where Johnson’s best game last year came against us (23 carries for 82 yards).
RBs
Clinton is a good pass receiver. Westbrook (30 and a history of serious injuries) would be competing with LJ and WP, with two, or even all three, getting cut. Don’t know who’s best among the three. I hope Torain or one of the newbies proves to be fast and explosive, and doesn’t fumble. What’s this about Fred Davis at RB? Doesn’t a FB have to block well? (I’m not judging, just observing).
Here's the thing about that...
I have spent hours watching tape of Clinton running pass patterns…
Replace “I have spent hours” with “I have seen”’
Replace “watching tape of Clinton running pass patterns” with “CP run routes during games”
CP runs mediocre routes but based on the athletic advantage he generally has on whomever tries to cover him, he is routinely open. Watch him in the open field…he is very hard to cover. I think he suffered from JC not being able get to his 3rd or 4th option, and I think the truth is that his hands are not his best attribute.
But I would love to see him get more receiving opportunities.
by Ken Meringolo on May 11, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The other thing I’ve noticed about Portis is that he legitimately likes to pass block, and that’s great, but occasionally it doesn’t do the Redskins any good. For example, if on a passing play in which it was blocked up nicely and Campbell had some time to throw, Portis would often stay in and look to hit a D Lineman that was already being blocked instead of leaking out into the flat as a safety valve for Campbell if nothing was open. You have to like a guy with that tough mentality, but it’s not always best for the situation.
With Westbrook, you have a guy that is also a great pass blocker, but will still get out into open space as an outlet when needed. Westbrook’s game in that regard is far better than Portis’.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
good obsevation on Portis pass protection....I have noticed that as well
but can hardly blame him, because JC got blasted so many times it is like sticking fingers in the dyke (not making that joke, not making that joke….ok)…..that might be just as well due to coaching and line play…….“stay back in protection for a 2 count and release”….well by the time 2 count was up JC was almost blameless….Peyton cammot get to 3 read in two seconds after the snap……he just knows before the ball is snapped that his 4th read on paper is about to be his first or second just by reading the defense.
I would prefer
That Clinton Portis was no longer on the team as opposed to him catching more passes. But that’s my opinion.
Yea, I can just envision Fred now jumping for 3rd downs two yards short
I agree with Donnio….a lot of these guys will be cut. CP, LJ, Torain is my guess…which is what Rick Snider and I debated and will be posted tomo.
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Part of the Problem is Larry Johnson and Westbrook were horrible blockers last year in Pass Pro
Parker was barely adequate as a blocker. CP was good.
I'm not saying I like it
but I’m surprised it has taken so long. The day he was released, it was practically a foregone conclusion in my mind that he would make a visit to our team.
If Brian Westbrook scored a TD against Dallas...
I’m sure Ken would change his tune.
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Again, why not?
Obviously, the concussion thing is an issue. A big one. But Westbrook is one of the top all-around backs in the game. And if it’s a true rotation out there, then none of our RB’s will be suffering from too much wear & tear throughout the course of the season. I say we apologize to Willie Parker for wasting his time, send him on his way, and welcome Westbrook to town.
Yea, he’s an ex-Eagle. But if grudges get in the way of making sound business decisions, then we’re not doing our job as an organization to find the best available talent to help the team win now.
But we have put some grudges aside already
I just don’t want to put them all aside. This isn’t international diplomacy. It’s the NFL. On one had, we were 4-12 last season so we can’t afford to be the choosiest team in the league. But on the other hand, grudges are a part of professional football…at least good professional football.
I think accepting McNabb shows some real growth on my part. I don’t want to grow any more this offseason.
by Ken Meringolo on May 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Brett Favre and Donovan McNabb
My friend is a true Minnesota Vikings fan who attends every game every season. He’s a true die hard fan. The minute they got Brett Favre I put him on suicide watch. It was tough for him to pull for Favre this year, and he told me that every win with Favre was bitter sweet. He said the only thing that could wash that bad taste out of his mouth would be for Brett Favre to win the Vikings a superbowl. I think I’m going to go through the same agony if McNabb can’t get us a ring. I don’t want to pull for this guy unless he returns the favor with the ultimate prize. Also, how painful will it be if he underperforms Campbell? Things could get really ugly.
my apolgies....not my usual manner of speaking.....
my point is still valid……it is not up to McNabb to bring us a ring, he is just a player on our team….yes he is our quarterback, and he also happens to have quarterbacked the hated Eagles for the last decade, but he is just a football player on our team, and he comes in at an important position in which many thought we needed and upgrade…..and I would be hard pressed to come up with a realistic scenario that would have upgraded our team any better at that position….it was late, I don’t know you and I have no business calling you a “fukking wanker”. I am too long in the tooth to be running around name calling complete strangers………BTW part of what got me started was that I misread your name in the first place, see below.
3 years ago I would have taken him over McNabb....
and thats when Portis was still beyond legitimate ……..he is a shell, I don’t but it….I would rather have Galloway make the team….I don’t think he has anything left…..maybe I wlll later, or someone go scout the Eagles board to see what they have to say……and that is a player they love, but I think he is done, too iittle too late
Picking up outcast free agents...
Is not the path to the superbowl. In effect, it takes away valuable playing time from the young guys who could one day get you to the big show. Yeah maybe you win a few more games. But how long will that last? Wash, rinse, repeat. Until we start building the nucleus of our team in the draft, I’m afraid we are destined for several more decades of mediocrity. Sorry, just don’t see the light with this AARP team we are putting together. I
you used "afraid" and "sorry" in one post....
do you want it to turn around……….half of you pricks don’t know what it means to be a fan
Your insults are excellent
and make convincing arguments.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
3 years ago, he was arguably the best running back in the league, and if he’s healthy, even now he’s far better than either Larry Johnson or Willie Parker.
I was in the minority on this over at BGN, but I wanted the Eagles to keep him this year. When we released him, he had one year left on his deal, albeit a ridiculously large amount of money, but with the uncapped season I wasn’t really all the concerned with Jeffrey Lurie (the Eagles owner) not being able to afford a 3rd yacht.
So if he can pass a physical, why not bring him in? He’s a great teammate, an incredibly smart player (see his cold-blooded kneeldown at the 1 against Dallas), and might immediately become your 2nd best wide receiver… again, if healthy. What’s the downside?
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
The kneeldown against the Cowgirls was amazing..I'll give you that
If we had not already brought in Willie and Larry, Westbrook MIGHT be more attractive, but I just do not want any more high-profile Redskin-killing Eagles on this team. Even if Brian gives us something that Willie and Larry do not…which is probably the case…I would still rather find a young buck with a lot less tread on the tires. We need a young running back WAY more than we need another 30-year old back. And if history has taught us anything, it is that Mike Shanahan is capable of finding a young back from out of nowhere.
I want Shanny to work his magic and unearth a nobody who can carry the rock for us…if we bring in Westbrook, that ain’t gonna happen.
by Ken Meringolo on May 11, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
How exactly do you expect that to happen?
The draft is over. He may be a magician, but he’s not a miracle worker. And Westbrook is better than any undrafted FA or 2nd/3rd stringer currently on an NFL roster.
I understand that playing with the Iggles’ sloppy seconds leaves a foul taste’s in our mouths…lemme let that one sink in for a minute…but we were 4-12 last year, and in the era of free agency, there is no such thing as loyalty anymore. Westbrook would provide an immediate upgrade, and a pass catching threat out of the backfield. Portis may be a good one also, but we don’t know that for sure. He never really had anything designed for him to catch passes, or the plays never really succeeded.
Portis/Westbrook/Johnson > no name undrafted 22 year olds.
Your point is well-taken except for one thing
there IS such thing as loyalty…in the fanbase.
If Westbrook ends up being a Redskin I will figure out a way to deal with it…I have figured out a way to shell out my hard-earned dough to go see the debacle live for the last decade. But I have no problem bitching about it now since I honestly don’t like Westbrook after having watched him destroy us all those years.
It would not be my preference to see him in burgundy and gold. If he were in his prime, it would likely be different, but he isn’t. He is one hit away from foregtting where his car is parked…forever.
As for the unheralded running back I speak of, I am looking to guys the Shanahan’s have already brought in. I did notice that the draft was over. Though it lasted so long I could not be sure.
by Ken Meringolo on May 11, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So Bruce Allen should run roster moves by the fans?
Or Bruce should ask the fans “Hey, is one Eagle too much to bring over?”
Ludicrous. KellRaw is right. Vinny left this team with no picks and holes all over the place. Bring in all the vets and see who rises…maybe none do.
Or, as i suggested, Have CP and Brian Westbroook head-butt each other and whoever’s standing gets to stay.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on May 11, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
hey I thought I said that....
…..or perhaps I said they both might be done….IDK…Ithink I was concerned abut trauma and team morale……no if someone went out that the team could rally around that would be different
You don't want Westbrook either
You said it too.
My emotions may separate me from being an effective GM, but I could give two s’s.
I am a fan. And the heart wants to hate who the heart wants to hate.
by Ken Meringolo on May 12, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
my "I thought I said that" was about the head butt thing
I think at some point I was more than clear about my feelings on Westbrook……..even tried to back it with non-partisan logic…….the guy was great player, of the three “used to be great” RBS we have on our team I would have loved to have BW on my team through his career, by far…….but today I feel he has the least amount left to put on the field …..he left it all on the field every time he went out to play and I believe he is done, absolutely no disrespect to him……he is one of the few Eagles/Cowboys/Giants that I give huge respect to as an enemy.
Yep...
I’ll agree with that, Westbrook’s probably done and I don’t want to find that out with him on the ’Skin’s roster. I also have respect for him as a football player, ’cause as much as I hated watching him do it, he was a Redskin killer.
by Scorin' Scalps on May 12, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Points Ken
As Kevin pointed out in a post Shanny has never produced a 1,000 yard back with guys with so much wear in their tires. The no name guys on our roster are probably more likely than one of the old guys to be our main rusher based on Shanny’s history.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The magic of the uncapped year is that we can have 4 guys like this in camp and even cut two without hurting ourselves financially.
I think Westbrook would bring something the other 3 don’t, which would have to be to his and our benefit in a competition.
But I share your dislike of adding more ex-rivals (and I went to Gonzaga, so my dislike for him goes way back for me just like it does for you)
well look at it this way
At least if he’s here, he’s not out there making our LB’s look like lawn furniture on play action passes.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
lol.......that I can agree with
but not so much last few times we played…..he used to kill us and I think thats why it sticks with us….different than Dono…..he never really worried me….he was always good but beatable, BW killed us…..one of the very few Eagles I watched play against us and wished he was on our team…..or at least on some other team, preferably in the AFC…..which is why I don’t mind the old timers coming in from the AFC, we have no personal connection….if WP’s career ends lamely here nobody cares…..watching debilitated BW play with us is not good for morale.
we have a platoon of older running backs
who says we need that kind of threat in our system…….we have 2 very good pass catching tight ends……line Davis in the slot with Cooley at TE….we have enough to create match-up problems…..just don’t think we are close to needing him.
That's assuming our current trio is worthy of being on a roster
I see it as simple probabilities. 4 washed up backs are more likely than 3 washed up backs to produce a solid starter. Plus if he is brought in it might mean of the current guys are sucking and gonna be cut. I think every single back on our roster is a major question mark so we might as well increase our chances.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you are assuming a bit when you say "washed up"
I don’t know if all 3 are going to make the team, I don’t think that Shanny is going to keep old gimps out of a sense of tradition, all three have shown talent, none have really been in this situation….go all out and you only have to do it 10 plays a game…if that…….if we run aggressively and average over 4 we can be a playoff team…..thats without 40+ runs solid running game….gimmme 5 yard here….throw the ball down the field, lets play some football!!!….I am so late picking her up
LJ hasn't been a 1,000 yard rusher since 2006
Parker hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season since 2007. They both were injured and replaced by guys who did vastly better than them with the same O-lines. I think classifying them as currently washed up is assuming nothing. To statethey arenot washed up would be an assumption as it contradicts available evidence.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry that came across a little pointed
But I mean at what point does a guy stop riding off name recognition? If you play like your washed up for 2-3 years doesn’t the onus start to be on you to prove your not washed up?
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to do a Daily Slop this morning....this is amazing...Romo on 'Biggest Loser'
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/index?id=5180141
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I would make alot of choking jokes
But considering he outplayed our QB in the playoffs last year I’ll hold off.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am just out of my mind?
I feel like we could just grab whoever is the odd man out in Buffalo. Lynch for all of his problems is still only 25. Fred Jackson came out of nowhere, but its not like he benefitted from an awesome system or something (he was good in BUFFALO’s offense, a talented unit that scored even less than the skins). Either one of those guys would seem to have more promise than BW.
by CapitalDominion on May 11, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
I'd be in favor of Jackson
Lynch…notsomuch. But all indications are the Bills are keeping all of their RB’s. I have yet to hear anything about anyone seriously being on the block.
Fred Jackson would be huge for us
Am I far off when in thinking he is kind of a prototypical Shanny back?
by Ken Meringolo on May 12, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
what if we
used portis, johnson, parker and westbrook all equally… 5-7 carries each per game and ride the hot hand if one or two are really excelling… that would be interesting
Portis and LJ are both guys who need 20+ carries to be effective
I think the whole “they’ll split the carries evenly” concept is a pipe dream. Portis and LJ are just not as effective in short bursts. They are grinders who wear down a defense. It reminds me of how Betts was a poor complement to Portis in short spurts but much better when replacing Portis and getting alot of carries.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah true i agree
definitely more of a pipe dream/ possible explanation for us signing another 30+ rb… though im not sure portis can handle 20+ carries a game in his prime yes him and lj did need those types of numbers to wear down the D… so what if portis and lj switch off in the first half and wear down the d and then westbrook and parker slash through the worn out d in the 2nd half? again im probably pipe dreaming but i just cant make sense of what we’re doin otherwise
It makes sense to me because none of those guys are guaranteed to even make it through a Training Camp with their injury histories
So hopefully 1-2 guys come out of that competition. Hopefully one of them can be the main back(if I had to bet it would be CP) another can complement the main guy and the third guy can be turned up from the undrafted guys or Torain. It’s also tough for me to see us having 3 RB’s active who can’t play ST.
by BayAreaBullet on May 11, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
A healthy WESTBROOK
a Mentally and Physically healthy Westbrook ( nothing less ) would be a monster addition
sbredskinsnabb
Enough is enough for Redskin Nation. I bought into the idea that Portis, Johnson, and Parker would some how form a triple threat, but come on Westbrook is overkill. The Redskins don’t need every 30 something running-back who might be available to find one to carry the ball. I have never liked Westbrook and his durability problems. Even during his best years he missed games because of his health. I agree NO, NO, NO,NO!!!!!
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS, FIGHT FOR OLD D.C.
(and it seems like they keep getting older)
Westbrook is by far
the best 3rd down back of the older RBs(if he was signed and IF he could stay healthy) on the ’Skins. I would rather see a combo of CP, Westbrook, and the third in the group coming from either LJ/Parker.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m starting to really get worried about what the ’Skins special teams is going to look like if all these older WRs and RBs make this team.
i voted for Westbrook
not b/c I think he’ll be any good, but more as a reflection on the crappiness of the other third down options.
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on May 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
also, Portis a distant last?
would anyone really prefer WP, LJ, or even Fred Davis to him as a third down option. Portis is a far better pass blocker to all 3, and a far better pass catcher than WP and LJ.
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on May 11, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I voted for Westbrook, too
The fact that he and Portis are wearing glasses now due to getting the sight knocked out of them notwithstanding, I am all for creating competition. I like having Willie Parker as our 4th string back. He beats LaBetts as our 2nd string back. I think. Let ‘em all compete and see what happens. Again, at least he’s not on someone else’s team burning our collective asses.
That said, I would’ve thought I was in the minority voting for Westbrook. Shows what I know.
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I don’t know how Dan Snyder can call himself a businessman. He spends all his money on deteriorating assets. Who gets the bill? The shareholders (us loyal fans). Oh well.
Breaking.....Skins in talks with free agent RB Curtis Martin
Also Marshall Faulk has reportedly been given a tryout in camp by Shanahan. No word yet one whether free agent Eric Dickerson will also be there.
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on May 11, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
skins asked me to upgrade my season tickets this year
“It will only cost you 650 more per seat” I was told. I guess that’s what it takes to pay all these aging running backs. Sorry, I will not upgrade my seats until they upgrade the product.
by Kurtstack on May 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Parker
I think the roster has Willie as making something like $3.5 million this year. I would think that would be some kind of a factor in deciding who to keep.
that's entirely incentive laden though
we owe him jack unless he makes the team and runs for a billion yards. CP is the only one guaranteed big dollars.
by KellRawLive on May 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker
I don’t know, but it’s listed as an actual salary, in a list that gives hard salaries, not potential salary with incentives. Certainly not guaranteed, though.
Unlike most
I am not enchanted by Allen and Shanny and don’t know why others are— especially after the off-season is considered. In a supposedly rebuilding year, they’ve dramatically increased the average age of out players and have added exactly one young guy of exceptional promise, which was hard not to do (since we had the no.4 pick.) Actually, they probably botched even that by passing on Okung in favor of Williams. Let me be clear:
I think that A and S are bad personnel guys, very bad. Their collection of journeymen, busts, and over-the-hill players is making us look silly. We’re going to be wearing bags on our heads before the season is over.
and, Sir Crazyhorse....
you can wear what ever you want on your head………don’t say “WE” ….if you want to wear a bag on your head go for it……speak for yourself, no-one else.
Amen to that
Crazyhorse…I am respectfully disagreeing with you here.
by Ken Meringolo on May 12, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And back at you! I can tolerate the Skins and the Giants. But the Cowboys are
the complete arch enemy of the Eagles too!
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by Lombardi and Broad on May 12, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If I didn't know any better...
Reading some of the posts so far might lead me to believe that there is a wealth of young talent the Redskin’s had access to, and they chose instead to go with bad old players and bad young players. I, of course, know this is not true. With limited draft picks, and a bad team to start, I think the “New Office” deverves a little time to get their $#!+ together.
Eagles fan checking in.
I usually stay off of the competitor’s blogs. This is like the locker room for the fan. But I was on the side of the fan base that wanted to dump Andy Reid and keep McNabb. And guess what coach I wanted? SHANAHAN! I knew Mike would design an offense around Don’s strengths. Trust me! Ok, you probably wouldn’t trust the fan of the 10 year dominator of the NFC East, the NFC EAST BEAST of the new millennium and the greatest champions of the last millennium (Check our 3 PRE-Super Bowl championships before you respond. No team has ever won BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS BY SHUT OUT! The 1948 & 1949 Eagles are the most dominant champions ever! Nor did anyone ever beat THE NAME ON THE SUPA BOWL trophy other than the EAGLES! So don’t give me that Super Bowl crap. Yeah we are due but we possess championship EXPLOITS none of the Super Bowl champions ever did! And if you haven’t won since the last millennium? WHO CARES??) But back to the friendly speak. If you want to help McNabb the best that you possibly can? Pray for a healthy Brian Westbrook. This guy is McNabb’s all-time comfort blanket. He is an excellent blocker for his size and he is the ultimate dump-off, mis-direction play back I have ever seen. He enables a team to get by with mediocre wide receivers because the secondary has to play the swing pass and the deep threat. 75% of Westbrook is better than the current cast of Redskin running backs. His absence is completely the reason McNabb could not get into a rhythm against the hated Cowchicks. It would have been much closer if Westbrook was there for the dump off. Without Brian, the Cowchips just played deep to stop Jackson and Maclin. You will do well to do all you can to sign Westbrook if there is anything left like Ken M. said. Hey we got used to Brian Mitchell! We still love him up here in Philly. Given that? We want to beat that skins tail twice this year! But Westbrook is a recommendation if possible.
Waiting for Five Guys Burgers and Fries to open at the Exton Mall! I can't wait!
by Lombardi and Broad on May 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
Bye Dawk :(, your own BGN editor, said Westbrook is done
And I agree. Westbrook doesn’t have the wheels like he used to b/c of his knees..
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by Kevin Ewoldt on May 13, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
the old teachs the new
with the proper coaches/management GOOD old players are kinda like good coaches
who can demonstrae what they teach…
with short term contracts old players are motivated to be positive role models for youngsters and their own legacy
I’m willing to trust this new management and d.McNabb. A better/improved offense helps a defense become better
This will be a better team….how much better ?
sbredskinsnabb
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