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Camping Out: Coaching Differences Are Noticeable at Redskins Park; And That's a Good Thing

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John Keim has covered the Washington Redskins since 1994. Follow his work at WashingtonExaminer.com and WarpathConfidential.com.

After some great insight last week, John opens the door on how camp is being run in contrast to that of the Ringling Brothers circus Jim Zorn's camp. After attending parts of minicamp last year, it's so true it's impossible to evaluate talent without the pads on, so this week we're going to focus mainly on the coaching structure, Kevin Barnes, and if the Kickers got any action. It's a Albert Haynesworth-free week here at Hogs Haven. I don't even want to hear his name....nor does Cooley.

Hogs Haven: What are some noticeable differences from how Shanahan runs his camp versus Zorn (and how they handled players). From my time at OTAs lat year I remember a lot the veteran players on one knee (Portis and Sellers) while others did stretches.

Mike is more of a CEO type and deals with his players much more directly than Zorn. That's pretty big. It's a more professional atmosphere. I liked Zorn personally, but there is a change. I did not see guys on knees while others stretched. The tempo of the practice was crisper, especially compared to Zorn's early minicamps. But I also remember guys telling me early in Zorn's tenure how much a breath of fresh air he was. I think what's more noticeable is the confidence in the players, stemming from Shanahan and Donovan McNabb.

Can you spend a few minutes talking about a new coach and what kind of difference he is making?

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The coach who I  noticed more was Keenan McCardell. He throws a tight spiral for starters. But he seems to be much more intense working with this group than Stan Hixon. I'm anxious to see what impact he can have on a Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly. Hard to say what kind of difference he's making now. Some of these guys should look good at this point. But I think having someone who did what Keenan did now working with the young guys should be a huge benefit. Strength coach Ray Wright is another one. At this time of the year he's easy to notice. But ask the guys who couldn't practice how much fun they had working with him. Andre Carter is one of the most well-conditioned athletes you'll find and he was struggling after Wright worked with him on the side. 

How does Kevin Barnes look?

Honestly, he's not a guy I paid much attention to in the day we could watch. He did intercept one pass down the middle of the field. But I was not too high on him last year. Did not hear a lot of good things from coaches and kept watching him get sizzled on moves in practice. However, he did seem to improve. Still, entering camp, I don't see him as anything more than the fifth corner. We'll get a much better gauge of where he's at once the pads come on. The guy who jumped out at me was Fred Davis. He's always done that in these sort of situations, but coming off what he did last season it makes him look even better.

Can you name one returning vet not currently slated to start that has a chance to do just that?

Hard to say because most spots don't have a strong veteran in a backup role. Maybe Kedric Golston, but depending on what happens with Albert Haynesworth he could start anyway. If nothing else he'll play a big role. I don't see Justin Tryon becoming a No. 2 corner. I guess the one spot it will be interesting to see is the safety spot opposite LaRon Landry. I would give Chris Horton and Kareem Moore an edge simply because they would do a better job of enabling Landry to play more in the box, especially Moore. At OLB, I need to see Andre Carter there before I would speculate on who might beat him out. Until they get in pads, the OLB position will be difficult to gauge. Seems like half the DL is now working there (Rob Jackson was there this weekend, too). And offensively, as long as Trent Williams is in camp on time he'll start at LT and Artis Hicks will start at RT. I don't see Stephon Heyer beating either one out. 

Did Josh Bidwell and Graham Gano boot any balls?

No. And I'm thankful for that. Too early to start watching punters and kickers! But obviously I would like to see how Gano does. He made me nervous last year. I'm also curious to see how the new long snapper does and if he makes them want to call Ethan Albright this summer.    

It's never too late to start talking kickers. Would you rather talk kickers or Haynesworth or Offensive Line?!!?  Ha. Thanks again to John Keim. If you're not already, follow him on twitter.

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Anybody else excited

to see how bad Baron (the cowgirls newly traded for tackle, AKA “Only guy with nearly as many penalties as Flozell Adams”) has a case of Orakpophobia?

by mdm1185 on May 11, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

If Dallas is smart Doug Free will be their LT

and not Alex Barron. While Free only started at RT in 2009, he played at LT and might have done better than Adams. Free did have a few bad games pass protecting at RT (Giants and Raiders), but he only gave up 1 sack in 349 pass plays at either RT or LT.

by Jefferson1935 on May 11, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Training Camps reports are tough

Has anyone ever heard a bad report coming from camp?

by Hustler of Culture on May 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

All of these camps are what

drown us in the Kool Aid every year. And this year is no different, keep the positives coming!

by CarverM on May 11, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

keep my kool aid

on ice until training camp.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on May 11, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take over..

I’m not liking Josh Bidwell…I like Graham Gano though. I have no hesitations with him as our K.

Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 11, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm encouraged

by the apparent improvement at WR coach. that could be an underrated key to the season for McNabb and the team.

by TLF18 on May 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed......

this is the year to see what we have at that position……with the overall change in every other part of the passing game, this is their shot to make it big time and I would hope they realize that. Not to mention the trickle down effect would be enormous. If the young guys step up I see good numbers for Moss, and obviously a respectable passing game will open up the run and so forth.

by MagicHat on May 11, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering how much of a mess Xorn was top-to-bottom

it is hard not to look good and different than him this season

Zorn was never HC material

by Alious on May 11, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Galloway

NBC4 had a clip highlighting Galloway. Sounded as if he was a serious candidate for #4 receiver. He himself seemed very modest and unassuming, almost suggesting that he wasn’t getting his hopes up, and knew he was a long shot.

by Donnio1234 on May 11, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather have Wade as the #4

He’s a natural slot guy who can help on teams and can return punts. Here is his stats the last 3 seasons.

54 catches 3 TD
53 catches 2 TD
36 catches 2 TD

As opposed to Galloway

57 catches 6 TD
13 catches 0 TD
7 catches 0 TD

by BayAreaBullet on May 12, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

good news

“as long as Trent Williams is in camp on time he’ll start at LT and Artis Hicks will start at RT. I don’t see Stephon Heyer beating either one out.”

If in fact they are beating Heyer out (which I would expect) then our OL is going to be much improved from last year. Heyer looked outmatched last year.

by aFan4Life on May 12, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

The other offensive line backups

are likely to be improved as well. It is a make it or break it year for Will Montgomery, Edwin Williams, Chad Rinehart, Clint Oldenburg, and William Robinson. Heyer might be viewed as less desirable for zone blocking schemes than some of the aforementioned linemen..

by Jefferson1935 on May 12, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

How are our back ups improved?

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

A little study on OL draft picks and UDFAs

will show that quite a few 4th through 7th round O-linemen’s play improves in games played and starts. It is also true that many of them no longer make 53 man rosters or practice squads. Rinehart did start to look better before he broke his leg. Capers and Erik Cook (at least on paper) look like better backups than any of the 2009 season backups. Paul Fanaika and Kory Lichtensteiger are somewhat unknown. Experience alone should make Fanaika a better player and he really came in too late to be tested last season. Licht was a 4th round draft pick plus he played in 16 games as a rookie. It is more a probability than a fact, but since 2006 most 4th rounders get playing time after 2 or 3 years, I expect as much from Licht. If Heyer is on the team he is better as a backup than as a starter. Clint Oldenburg was a 5th round draft pick and apparently very strong – can his athletic ability be translated to play in the NFL? William Robinson did play some left tackle in 2009, but had little practice at the position and was swamped – is he a lost cause? Some of these are generalized expectations, but not too far fetched. It won’t known until at least the preseason games whether any of it pans out.

by Jefferson1935 on May 13, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

then I’d say it’s possible we have better back ups this year, but at this point it’s a large group of inexperienced unknowns.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 14, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

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