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Colt Brennan: More than just a Third Stringer


Sure, he played at Hawaii. Sure, he played under the run and shoot guru June Jones. And sure, he was a sixth round pick. He has been criticized by many, including sports analysts and commentators everywhere. Whether it is his unique release or "lack" of arm strength, his career as a football player has been one of intense scrutiny and pressure to overcome preconceived notions of his ability. 

His performance on the field, both collegiate and NFL, has been nothing short of amazing. As I have watched him progress over the years, I have noticed just how accurate his throws are. The way he is able to split the defenders and throw the ball to places only his receivers can get to it is astounding. On deep throws, post routes, out routes, curls, etc., he always finds a way to get the ball from point A to point B; quarterback's hand to receivers grasp.

This leads me to my next point: his release. Critics frequently say that his release leads to a "lack" of arm strength. However, this is far from the truth. He can throw the ball over 60 yards, which is more than enough for 99% of in-game throws. Others often complain that his low release point will lead to battered balls by the D-Line. But, in reality, this is a very minor flaw, as it only occurs once in a blue moon. As far as his release time, it is very quick. One of the quickest in the league. And, as I said before, who cares as long as it gets to the receivers hands?

One thing that most scouts can agree upon is his instincts. His natural ability to read and react to defenses is about as good as it gets. In his first experience in the NFL, the HOF game in 2008, Brennan was able to shred the defense for an almost perfect QB rating. This ability can only go up as he gets playing time.

Brennan's talent can only lead to more and more progression. While he may not be able to become the greatest quarterback of all time this year, he is, without a doubt, better than more than half of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL as of now. Only time will tell if the Skins will give his a chance to prove himself.

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I'd love to drink that coolaid

But the reality is that he hasn’t shown anything in a meaningful game in the NFL.

by SOMD_Skins_Fan on Apr 27, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Only time will tell...

This is why i say that he has not received the proper opportunity to show off his skills. I am basing my opinions on what i have seen. And, from this, i have gathered that he is a quarterback full of potential and ability to be great. When he gets the opportunity to play full time, I’m sure you’ll be gulping down that coolaid.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

SCRONIN: More than just a Crackhead

HAHA…..sorry…..but Brennan is the answer to nothing except the third spot on the depth chart……..if he is lucky. This is a topic that has been hit on a lot…..and I am not repeating anything more than…..you can’t compare 1 good preseason against third stringers….anything close to amazing!

by shvd98z24 on Apr 27, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha, god one.

Sorry, i am not on crack. And i am not simply basing my opinions on one preseason game, but rather all games in which he has played. I think you should do the same, as this is a key aspect of evaluating talent.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many NFL games....

have you watched Colt Brennan in to base this opinion on??? He has never played a single snap of a single NFL game. That’s what I base my opinion on!

by shvd98z24 on Apr 28, 2010 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you happen to catch the bowl game against Georgia Colt's senior year?

That defense was nothing close to what he sees in the NFL, and you saw how aweful he looked. The Georgia defense was not even the best in the SEC that year, and they completely baffeled Colt. I think some fans were overcome with some of the stats he put up during his collegiate career, but keep in mind they were against inferior competition. Remember Andrea Ware? Great college career, totally disappeared in the NFL.

by Tiller56 on Apr 27, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Georgia Bowl Game

Alright, he had a bad game. And, Georgia did have one of the best defenses at the time. Their pass rush, against any team, was unstoppable. During the game, Brennan had VERY little time to throw. Around 2-3 seconds with his below average O-line. Under those circumstances, it would be extremely difficult to play well for any elite quarterback. I mean, cmon, they had a three man rush that was penetrating the line with ease, which left 8 men to cover Brennan’s targets. And, without a run game, the D-Line had no reason to hesitate. They had an early deficit. He had to take risks. This leads to possible interceptions when you’ve got 8 men covering. The fact that he was able to score at all is a tribute to his ability.

About the stats. They are of little importance. I am smart enough to know that any quarterback playing in the collegiate level is playing under some sort of “system,” which leads to inflated stats. I am basing my opinions purely on his actual performance on the field. This involves watching him live, and paying close attention to each and every throw that he makes.

About Andre Ware. I prefer to keep comparisons out of the picture. Every player is different from another. I never had the chance to see the guy play, but from what i can tell, his accuracy was not enough to make it into the NFL. When comparing Brennan to most others, he surpasses them in accuracy whether it be deep throws or middle range throws or anything else.

I hope this clears things up for ya. Try to watch the dude play this season. I think you will be surprised.

by scronin on Apr 27, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to watch him play some this year

problem is, he’ll never see the field being behind McNabb and Grossman. I’ll have to just rely on his preformances against 3rd stringers in the preseason.

by Tiller56 on Apr 28, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that an intentional "Andrea"...

or just an incidental insult?

Either way, it’s biting.

by Reedskin on Apr 28, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i will say

i think if he was presented with the oppurtunity , he could be a pretty good quarterback for us , oh yeah , hope your prepared to be made fun of and being called names ( kinda like in grade school) gl

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Apr 27, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey did you guys hear?

Colt fired his agent yesterday and is now represented by by Sammy C. Ronin, LLC.

His performance on the field, both collegiate and NFL, has been nothing short of amazing.

Wow…

by ReggieBullits on Apr 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, alright...

Here is what i want you to do: watch him play. Try to block out those preconceptions that have been clogging your mind, and allow his actual performance to sway your opinions. I, of course, cannot change your biases and opinions, but giving Colt a chance can.

by scronin on Apr 27, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've watched him play

And so have you, so here’s my homework assignment for you. Watch him play against a first string NFL defense.

Oh…right. Nobody’s seen that yet. Categorizing his performance on the field in the NFL as amazing instantly discredits your argument, hyperbole or not.

I’m not rooting for the guy to fail, just pointing out that you’re reaching a bit here.

by ReggieBullits on Apr 28, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scrodum

nice post , im mean scronin , did I say scrodum ?

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Apr 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Mcnabb can really tutor this guy and teach him the West Coast offense. I think its a good thing he will be working with Mcnabb and Shanahan, but first he has to beat out Daryl Clark… Who knows maybe he could take over after Mcnabb…

by ImFROMdc88 on Apr 27, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

good point

Thanks for the comment. Do you remember last year when the “Great Chase Daniel” was supposed to take over Brennan’s spot? Well, that certainly did not happen… I think the reason the Redskins have been keeping Brennan so long is because they know that he has the potential necessary to become a great quarterback. Daryl Clark is…ok… but not at Brennan’s level. I believe the redskins will see this and release Clark.

by scronin on Apr 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kind of sucked that Colt had hip surgery last season.

With the poor play that was happening amongst the team, maybe Zorn would have given the kid a shot if he was healthy.

by Tiller56 on Apr 28, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daryll Clark

is closer in size to the NFL prototype QB (6’2" & 230 lbs) whereas Daniel may possibly have been 5’11". Daniel was picked up by the Saints and stayed on the 53 man roster, but inactive for games, most of the time after the Skins cut him. There wasn’t anything wrong with his accuracy. Both of the Colts have the system QB knock on them for all their good college stats.

by Jefferson1935 on Apr 29, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Ok. Lemme explain. The point of this article was to bring people’s attention to some of Brennan’s strengths. I may have hyperbolized some of his attributes, but, nonetheless, i do believe in his abilities. For those of us that have actually watched this guy play live, it is easy to see why i believe this. And, yeah, of course the defense was not the best, but if you were to look at the quality of the actual throws, then you would see the potential of this guy.

As Chad Ochocinco once said: “Haters are confused admirers, they cant be or figure you out so negativity comes out their mouth.” Oh yeah.

by scronin on Apr 27, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Colt Brennan

I am with you on Colt. He never had a chance, and never played in a regular season game. The little bit he played in pre-season, I got the same impression you did – he is a gutsy gunslinger type, quick and accurate, and one who “makes plays”. I hope Shanahan gives him a good look, and think he could conceivably beat out Rex for #1 backup. The indication that Shanahan will give him a chance.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 27, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome

Glad to see someone who shares my views. Can’t wait for the season to start.

by scronin on Apr 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ignore fist jab lol lol what a screen name he is a campbell groupie mcnabb will not be around forever so the skins will take a long look at what colt has i can see him being a effective qb in this league but will it be for the skins ?

by lohaus#54 on Apr 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they won't...

The same way they ignored Sam Hollenbach and Lil Palmer. 3rd string QB’s are worthless, and quite a few teams carry only two. Colt has done nothing to warrant a shot, and my bet is Clark beats him out for his right to do nothing.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 29, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

hollenbach lol lol clark lol lol jeez you are nuts what about richard bartel yeah he is better then colt also. shit he is even better then mcnabb christ ..

by lohaus#54 on Apr 30, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohaus#54

what has made you think they plan on Colt as having a future as the starting QB for this team?

Seriously, give me any indication that this team has decided Colt is the future? Or even an option? He’s a third-string quarterback they thought so little of as to inactivate him so we could sign Quinton Ganther. Seriously? Colt is ass.

by TerroristFistJab on May 3, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

scronin

I think all Redskins fans will route for Colt to do well. I think why the boys are getting on you a bit is you seem to be throwing your opinion around as fact, yet there is obviously no facts(ie. meaningful games) to back up these opinions. I applaude you for being passionate about a player. I know, that if Colt is ever given the oppertunity, that I will be pulling for him, I just need to curb my enthusiasm a little until I have seen more from him in a meaninghful game situation. Thats JMO though.

FWIW, I watch tons of college football, but having lived in PA, I didn’t get a chance to see Hawaii play that much. The most I have seen were highlight clips(which are just that, Highlights)and the bowl game against Georgia that I previously mentioned.

by Tiller56 on Apr 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

That is exactly what this article is, opinion. I could never make such bold statement of fact after he only played preseason football. I am simply detailing my opinion on his potential into developing into a great quarterback.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gutsy Gunslinger...

I’ve had it with Redskins fans that want a gunslinger at the QB position. It’s just amazing to me that people could ever want to see that kind of play.

It is said over and over again to the point of being a cliche, but the team with the fewest turnovers (or highest TO +/-) usually wins more games than it loses. Our defense isn’t going to give you many TO’s, so we can’t go thowing the ball away on offense. So knowing this, you want our QB to be a gunslinger. And in the case of Rex and Colt, short and lacking NFL arm-strenght.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 28, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gunslingers

You play to win the game.
if you don’t, you end up like Jason Campbell, a sort of “game manager”. He may have had the chance to be a winning qb if he had taken more risks. Perhaps he did not have the ability to do so, but the point is, his career never panned out. If you look at his yards per attempt, it was the lowest in the league.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

YPA

is a crap number, especially if you consider our receives lack of YAC. What % of attempts were less than 20 yards, and how many downfield routes were called on each of those attempts.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 29, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt

He looked horrible in camp last year and played miserably against top D’s. I’m not saying we should cut him (yet), but the praise for Colt is unfounded at this point.

Those numbers he put up against 4th line D’s his rookie year set a false expectation. He definitely has touch at times, but he’s not close to a starter yet.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 27, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

To play the devils advocate

He was also hurt last year in preseason.

I don’t think you can reasonably say that he should start, and now that we have McNabb hopefully the Cultists will quiet down, but I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on him.

by Boo. on Apr 28, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who comes into camp hurt?

when he never played a snap all season the year before? Even worse sign.

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by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 28, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mentorship

Colt needed a guy like McNabb to develop behind. He’s probably in the best possible position he could be in, with Nabb and Shannys in the cockpit as he’s coming into his third year.

TTB!

by Ach on Apr 27, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Different College

If Brennan was accepted by a bigger school than Hawaii, maybe like Texas for example, I think he wouldve had the same productivity as Colt McCoy had. And what makes Sam Bradford better? He played in a spread O as well but most importantly, he played at Oklahoma. And when you look at that game against Georgia, you can’t compare the SEC and the WAC. What I’m saying is that if Brennan was the QB at Texas or another spread offense ‘big’ school, many would consider him a better QB than he is now. He ended up in Hawaii and was really never coached, just told to sling the ball around, because other ‘big’ schools didn’t give him a shot.

by burgold21 on Apr 28, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Good point

I completely agree. Just look at Tim Tebow. If he went anywhere else, he would be nowhere near a first rounder. His poor accuracy and release would scare scouts from the beginning.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the difference with Tebow

is that he went to a “big school”, but he also “won championships”.

Tebow won ball games against top college teams. Brennan went to a bowl game against a good college team and got owned.

Maybe if Colt had gone to a big school, AND he had still set those records and had great stats, then maybe he would have been drafted higher. If he had torn it up in his senior bowl game, maybe he would have been drafted higher. If he had lit it up last preseason (which he did not), then maybe he could have beaten out Todd Collins and gone in for Campbell when he got injured for a few plays last year.

I don’t think Colt is just a victim of the system. He has had a few chances and has failed to capitalize on them.

If he impresses this year and becomes the second or first string QB (however unliekly), then more power to him! Hail to the Skins!

by RobtheRedskin on Apr 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he lost his scholarship....

at Colorado for burglary and trespassing…..and just barely got off of a charge for unsolicited sexual contact (exposed himself and fondled her…..reportedly). The he HAD tyo walk onto Hawaii!

by shvd98z24 on Apr 28, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had no idea

I just heard he walked on at Hawaii. Good info, thanks man

by DoWork on Apr 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Tim Tebow can be a starter, why can’t Colt Brennan be? It’s all about luck and media hype. If you get drafted in the top 2 rounds of the NFL draft, you are given guaranteed money. This means teams will keep you longer, which means your given more chances to succeed, which means your in the league longer. Brennan got a raw deal (being picked in the 6th round) and Tebow gets lucky with media hype and being picked in the first round.

by ImFROMdc88 on Apr 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Who in the hell

thinks Tebow is going to start?

They already have QB’s on that roster. That was a gross overreach my Denver and they’re going to regret it.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah with you there....

I was pretty ecxited about Colts possibilties right out of the box…..and would be thrilled if something comes out of it (mot makin any wagers) but Tebow was not the way to go to make any points whatsoever…..the days of us picking up players just to sell jerseys are over (let it be true, please)

by MagicHat on Apr 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

TFJ - Ummm...you named 'em!

I don’t think many folks in HH believe that Tebow will be a starter, but clearly Denver does, and clearly Denver believed that others in the league feel the same way (since they traded back up for him). Granted, the 2nd part of that could have been falling for smoke and mirrors, and most of the football world agrees with you that Denver will regret it.

All that said, I think while DC88 has a valid point regarding higher picks getting more chances, (though I would have used JaMarcus Russell to better illustrate that), I think not being able to make it to #2 on the depth chart is meaningful, though so is the fact that he’s here still instead of Chase Daniels, and he’s still here under Shanny.

by KenPat on Apr 28, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

But I would argue 88 is way off in his characterization of Colt’s time here in DC. If you compare Tebow to Brennan, I don’t think Colt even holds TT’s jock. Colt set passing records at Hawaii, TT won Natty’s in the SEC.

That said, I would agree that 1st rounders are sometimes given too much of a chance, but oftentimes have much more in the way of expectations. Even low-first picks like JC had too much expected of them, and he lost favor in his three and a half years(!) as our #1 QB.

Tebow is a joke, but I’ll gladly eat my words if he turns out to be any good.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m some what of a Colt fan. I know he hasn’t done a whole lot in the preseason games he played in , but he has shown flashes. I also agree that with the new regime here that he will have the chance necessary to prove himself. I think that if McNabb could groom and train him for the next few years he could be ready sorta like how Aaron Rodgers was under Favre or Kolb under McNabb. With that being said, Colt should be healthy this year and has all the opportunities to prove himself as the QB of the future.

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by ThaiBoy02 on Apr 28, 2010 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Brennan was able to shred the defense for an almost perfect QB rating. This ability can only go up

I think if you have an almost perfect qb rating, you can actually only go down. Right?

by DoWork on Apr 28, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Rating

His rating cant go up, but his ability can as he gains more experience.

by scronin on Apr 28, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't subscribe to this

How would they update and reflect such a thing on Madden?!

by DoWork on Apr 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck u

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joe Paterno
I WILL do great things so stand in my way if u want to come across because once the play starts its you and me.....
i always win

by HawaiiEaglesFanatic on Apr 28, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This post would have a lot more credibility

if you had simply said, “I like Colt Brennan and wish he’d be given more of a chance because I still believe he has the potential to be a starting NFL QB.”

A nice, not unwarranted opinion. But your analysis of the “facts” described something not entirely of this world, IMO.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 28, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

that was a nice, and to the point

synopsis of this article.

Well played, sir.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 28, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Rekka

BTW – I won’t be able to make the event tomorrow night. It was easy getting into town going against traffic for the draft party, but getting to Rockville from Annapolis for the B&G taping would be a minor miracle.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 28, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking that even when we talked about it last week at the draft

Short of leaving waaaay ahead of schedule, there could have been no way to get up to Rockville. It’s cool though, I’ll be sure to represent for the both of us.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 28, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's an idea...

I’ll leave tonight!! Well, not so much…. :) Later.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt

By “gunslinger”, I meant good arm, quick decision-making and release, can make plays, a winner, not “reckless”. Last pre-season was a disaster for him, but he was playing with 4th stringers, and I remember that he never had any time to throw. But everybody here is right – he is totally unproven, a mystery. He must improve this year, or else. I have hopes for him (because of his first year performance), but don’t really know how good he is. The Shanahans should give him a good look, because he could be a big winner, or a big bust.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

he was playing with 4th string o-line players

that ended up being our starters later in the year.

Just sayin’…

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was following

was going to joke “hell, I didn’t even know we had 2nd stringers last year” but I am also trying to be productive elsewhere and just sent it out (not that funny anyway)

by MagicHat on Apr 28, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that funny...

This post, I mean. It is a joke, right?

by Scorin' Scalps on Apr 28, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th stringers

Just kidding. But they bring in 80+ guys each spring, and the bottom 20 or 30 have little or no chance to make the team. They are just there as scrimmage dummies, competition for the real team. One young guy (a TE) just dropped out because he knew he was being used (although being paid more than a Walmart greeter). They’re gone during the cutdown from 80 to 45. So if you have to play with these soon-to-be-departed players, you are likely to not be very successful. Joe Bugel fell in love with some of these guys and kept them, then had to play them, with catastrophic results.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 28, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Bugel was not the GM

that was Vinny “dumbass” Cerratto

by ENsDad27 on Apr 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

COLT BRENNAN IS THE MAN

colt brennan is gonna b a gud starting QB if u wanna win some games ud play him!

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joe Paterno
I WILL do great things so stand in my way if u want to come across because once the play starts its you and me.....
i always win

by HawaiiEaglesFanatic on Apr 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If Colt can play

we will find out before the season. Shanny will keep him if he thinks he can mold him. If not, he’s gone, end of story. I think if anyone can pull back the layers of that onion, it’s Shanny. Colts game (what I’ve seen of it) reminds me a lot of Jake Plummer, another Shanny reclamation project.

by CJHutch on Apr 29, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

cjhutch you look like you finially agree colt is good if givin the chance

I have been saying since colt was part of this team to give him a chance and he will be good , because all along i have said that colt can thread a needle when throwing the ball and i have to say that he was better than J.C. by far but the difference in j.c. and colt was that j.c. was givin a chance because we drafted him higher and he was playing for auburn thats the reason he got his chance to start over colt, if we end up cutting colt someone will get a real steal at QB because that boy is good passer he will start for a team one day rather its with us or someone else i will bet on that you watch in see.

by washingtonwin on Apr 29, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely agree

Ever since i saw him at hawaii i have loved watching colt. Now i cant wait to see him get his chance in the regular season. Thanks for the comment.

by scronin on Apr 29, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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