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Washington Redskins 2010 NFL Draft Grades

Obviously, this is not the Redskins report card. (Thanks Vinny)

I've never been one to take stock on draft grades since as media we know 1/100,000th of the college players then that of the GMs making the decisions. Some 'experts' grade teams based on value of the pick, others on how many team needs were addressed, and some on the the overall quality of the players.

Time will tell, but here's a list of all the big hitters grades...

Star-divide

Feel free to add any grades I missed in the comments below and add in your own grades as well too.

Mark Maske - WaPost: B
Going with a left tackle at fourth overall was the right move, although some will debate taking Trent Williams over Russell Okung. The Redskins, as usual, left themselves with too few picks, sitting out Friday's rounds altogether.    

Rick Snider - WaExaminer: C-
The Redskins made two smart moves in drafting offensive tackle Trent Williams fourth overall and not trading defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth for a bag of balls. Washington now has playmakers on both lines...The Redskins get a C-minus in the draft for one starter, one contributor and a lot of this and that. Not a disaster, but not better than expected, either

Dan Kadar - Mocking The Draft
Perception: Offensive tackle Trent Williams being selected over Russell Okung was a strange move. Linebacker Perry Riley may not be a good fit for the 3-4 defense.
Reality: With one pick in the first two days of the draft, Washington was in a tough spot. But Selvish Capers was a solid find in the seventh round. Oh, and getting Donovan McNabb should appease owner Dan Snyder plenty.    

Mel Kiper - ESPN: C-
I projected Washington to take Trent Williams with that No. 4 pick, but while I think Williams is likely the most talented offensive lineman in the draft, and should be able to go back to the left side effectively, I felt Okung was the safer pick. He was the guy most likely to take that left tackle position and solidify it from Day 1. Washington didn't pick again until No. 103 -- thanks to the Donovan McNabb trade, which factors into the grade. What also does, however, is that while they like McNabb, they get just a 2012 fourth-rounder for Jason Campbell, their starter of the past two years. So it comes down to Williams, a quarterback swap, and some linebacking and special teams depth. If Williams isn't really good, and early, this could be an empty draft in terms of added youth.

Mel Kiper has zero credibility with me left. He's a fantastic personality for TV, but he praised the JaMarcus Russell pick and of course pegged the Redskins to select Clausen despite zero tackles to protect him. Did I miss the memo of him changing his pick to Trent Williams?? Kiper is like that one friend you have when you ask if the Colts will cover against the Texans. He'll throw out stats from both sides and when the game ends, he says "I told you they were going to win!!!"

USA Today: C-
Their second-round pick was Donovan McNabb, the veteran quarterback who can drive Mike Shanahan's offense ... if the line is working. Washington took its left tackle of the present and future in Trent Williams, whose athleticism gave him the nod over Okung and fits better with the Redskins' zone-blocking schemes. They went 1-for-2 in dealing disgruntled players, finding a home for Campbell, the former starting quarterback, but not Haynesworth. 

Sporting News: C
Taking left tackle Trent Williams at No. 4 was the right move because new QB Donovan McNabb needs protection. But with no picks in the second or third round, the Redskins could not fill many holes. Now, we'll see if Albert Haynesworth, who was not traded, can be productive and happy playing nose tackle for coach Mike Shanahan.

Dallas News - Rick Gosselin: D
One pick in the first three rounds is the prescription for disaster on draft day. The Redskins got a good one in OT Williams but were left to pick up everyone else's scraps when they returned to the fray in the fourth round.    

CBSSports.com - Pete Prisco: B-
Best pick:
 They landed a franchise tackle in Trent Williams in the first round. He will protect the blind side for a long time.
Questionable move: Passing on taking a quarterback for the future at some point. Donovan McNabb can't play forever.
Third-day gem: Fourth-round pick Perry Riley is a linebacker who could be in the mix inside in the new 3-4 scheme. Riley was an active player at LSU.
Analysis: I like the pick of Williams in the first round and getting McNabb for the second-round pick is stealing. If you factor in the McNabb trade, they had a nice draft.

For what it's worth, my 1 cent...

Hogs Haven: B
I want to strangle Rick Gosselin for his grade. Trading a 2nd round pick for McNabb was a fantastic deal, even if the Redskins don't win a Super Bowl under him. Would you really want to groom a QB under Jason Campbell and Rex Grossman? Next year the Redskins will pick up a QB and it will be a much better situation for him. As for the low grades, Shanahan was hand-cuffed not having a 3rd or 6th round pick. If Vinny had left those for Shanahan, I'm sure things would be different. I don't like how FS or RB was not addressed. That's the real reason for my grade...but then again, there aren't too many options in the 5th+ rounds.

Perry Riley looks to be the successor to London Fletcher, more on that coming, but grooming a ILB under London is a great decision. Even if Trent Williams doesn't turn out to be the next Chris Samuels, he has experience at Center and RT, which are two areas of need anyway.

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A lot of the grades don't take into consideration what we received for the picks.

With McNabb, Carriker, and Jarmon in the evaluation too, they should deserve higher than a C (in my opinion).

by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

fine,

But i heard that jarmon is not a good fit for our new 3-4 def.

by ACo on Apr 26, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, he is going to have to bulk up.

And when you ask a player to bulk up, you can’t expect him to be as good.

The Shanahan era is going to bring the Redskins back to Glory! Great QB and an actual O-line.

by Horcasitas4 on Apr 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused

the last I heard they were telling him to slim down so he could play LB

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all made up speculation.

Haslett hasn’t commented on how Jarmon will be used. Maybe predominantly in the 4-3 fronts of the ‘Redskins defense’. He’s got talent, for sure though.

by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What can you expect from Rick Gosselin?

He works for the Dallas news. The same thing with Matt Mosely on NFC East blog at ESPN.com. They will always bash the Redskins at every attempt they can.

I give the Skins a C+. I see the pick of Selvish Capers in the 7th as a steal.

People who question the pick of ‘Silverback’ over Okung need to look at the supporting cast willing to help him get better. Chris Samuels is an intern at Redskins Park will show him how it’s done in the NFL (he was even there when Williams got drafted!). Orakpo will make Williams hit the weights and make him better on the field.

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I liked what ESPN/Scouts Inc. did...

They had rankings of each draft for their strategies, not necessarily their players. Skins came out well there, tied for 4th overall in the league. This included the McNabb deal, Jarmon, the Carriker deal, and the trade down. It’s still a metric that’s not entirely fleshed out, but I think it made sense, which is an important first step when you develop these sorts of things.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=5132930

by bigredsnapper on Apr 26, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto that!!!! and many thanks from a displaced lifelong Skins fan!!!!

Redskins Draft_ B……..minus, only a minus because I feel we are possibly depending on some serious variables, Ok will ammend that to a B, just because of the situation the new staff walked into they kind of HAVE to count on some variables, some important parts coming off injuries…..and just hoping some don’t get injured along the way, yes this year our organization is being held together with duct tape and guitar strings…..a bit of “the best we can do with what we have to work with”…..if things fall into place and the wind blows the right way we have the talent and coaches to be on e hell of a football team…..afte rall of this and that, hopes and discontent, my biggest fear actually goes back to Shanny……and his experience, and schemes, even in the years that we are not the “best” division in football….we are the most physical, I hope we have a team that can endure and believe in the system and come back hard if we get smacked upside the head once or twice.
HH_A+ see above
Redsins support from HH contributors_C-…….lets get behind our team, we can all make arguments for this or that move…..we have been through some sh*t……..some fans here seem like a beaten dog that automatically shy away when someone comes close, regardless of intentions. We are all guilty of that…..remembering my lady coming in while I was watching games last year 3rd or 4th q….she would say why arent you excited…your winning….my answer..“not by enough”…..lets show our team that we have also have tradition of winning and also loving out team…..we had more than few bad seasons back in the day and were still the best fans in the NFL….period

by MagicHat on Apr 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1
some fans here seem like a beaten dog that automatically shy away when someone comes close, regardless of intentions

by CarverM on Apr 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm behind the franchise 100%

That doesn’t mean I’m behind our moves, our owner, or our philosophy.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

History, the colors

the potential for what we can be, not necessarily who we are now.

Sort of like a parent whose child has become a delinquent. You don’t like what they’re doing, but you stick by them in the hopes that they will get themselves together and become the person you know they can be.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The players. The colors. The song.

Rooting for wins on Sundays. Drinking beer.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Yahoo Sports.

Under Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen, the Redskins have become much more strategic in their personnel operations and have built the team with more precision, securing Donovan McNabb from a division rival for a relatively low price and beginning to build around him. The first piece added in the draft was OT Trent Williams(notes), who fit the Redskins’ zone-blocking scheme perfectly. The Redskins’ second-rounder was shipped to Philadelphia for McNabb, along with a conditional fourth-rounder next year, and the third-rounder was sacrificed in the 2009 supplemental draft for developmental DE Jeremy Jarmon(notes), who could help outside in Jim Haslett’s "30" front. ILB Perry Riley(notes) was a solid addition in the fourth round. TE Dennis Morris(notes) could bring value as a wham blocker. WR Terrence Austin(notes) could help in the return game. Their final two picks – C Erik Cook(notes) and OT Selvish Capers(notes) – are developmental zone blockers. To find the two most important pieces of Shanahan’s offense via the draft – McNabb and Williams – gives the Redskins’ draft more credence than it has had in a long time, and Shanahan did a fine job of matching talent to his scheme.
Grade: B-minus

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd go with a 'B'

I thought that with holes at OL, RB, and FS, we would’ve concentrated more on those positions. Though I do think Capers is a great value in the 7th. And, I don’t care what anyone else says, Donovan McNabb was the best player acquired with a 2nd round pick this year, and Jarmon is pretty damned good for a 3rd. They have to be factored in. Carriker too, as he is probably a better fit as a 3-4 DE than a 4-3 tackle.

by CJHutch on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

While this draft wasn't the best ever

I think people are being way too harsh. It seems like the overriding consideration in the grading was that we had so few picks. While that is not good I think it focuses too much on the outgoing group and not nearly enough on the picks the new front office made given the serious constraints.

Also Mel Kiper is a jackass. He had us going QB everywhere I saw. Someone ought to smack him in da mouf.

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I just hope people aren't getting their hopes up

This team was in total shambles when the new regime took over. It’s not going to get fixed overnight. I know there have been successes with other teams, but I don’t see a dynamic here that says playoffs yet. No way. I’ll be ecstatic if we’re 8-8. Of course, that would be par for the course as far as Snyder goes.

by killianskid34 on Apr 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Although I will say

I would give this draft a C, only because of the lack of picks in the earlier rounds. I know people like to throw Jarmon, McNabb and Carriker by saying we got those people, but good teams usually have those types of players on the roster FIRST before drafting in those positions.

by killianskid34 on Apr 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

… but good teams usually have those types of players on the roster FIRST before drafting in those positions.

What does that mean?

by bigredsnapper on Apr 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The grade needs to be based on the reality posed to the new regime.

Anything else is just wishful thinking. Downgrading the new guys for playing the cards they were dealt isn’t fair to say the least.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 27, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly you're right

I don’t think it’s crazy to hope for some improvement this year. Our draft picks were at least rational and I think it’s fair to believe that the combination of Vinny running the front office and Zorn in over his head made things last season a lot worse than they necessarily had to be.

Nevertheless we can’t expect to all of a sudden be major contenders. It just isn’t realistic. The real test I think is going to be whether or not Snyder gives Shanahan and Allen a chance to build something over several seasons. No one can predict what will happen with that.

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say we weren't too crazy with our picks

like we were in the Snyderatto era. After further review, they were not bad, although the small WR drafted might be a reach when Santana or DeAngelo could return punts or kicks just as well. Capers will be interesting to watch. If he turns out to be decent, that will make this draft something to look back on as a turning point.

by killianskid34 on Apr 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

If we get two OL starters out of this draft it will be a significant step forward.

If not, then our offense will remain mediocre/bad

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to be realistic on the O-line

it still isn’t going to be dominant this season but I’d be real disappointed if additions like Williams and Hicks don’t make it at least better than it was. While we can’t expect it if at least one of the 7th round OL guys is able to make contributions it would be even better. Obviously last season set the bar really low but any step forward right?

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

real simple reality check...

is T Williams going to be better than Samuels this year ?
is Hicks or E Williams going to be better than Randy Thomas?
We have more depth at guard now, maybe a slight upgrade too.
Both tackle spots and their backups are a crap shoot for this season, but Capers will be the deciding factor as to wether or not the line will be better

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might be willing to say

That if you include McNabb making better pre-snap adjustments and quicker decisions than JC17, we will have a better “O-line situation.”

by mdm1185 on Apr 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that Samuels and Thomas were sidelined last year,

then yes, our line got better.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very early on too

we lost Randy Thomas in Week 2 against the Rams and Samuels in Week 5 at Carolina. If we’re talking 2009 the comparison really needs to be against Levi, BMW, Heyer, and Rhineheart since thats who they’ll be competing with for jobs and who primarily played in the O-line spots that will be up for competition. It shouldn’t be against guys who were out before the regular season was even a third over.

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point exactly. Even if Trent Williams is just ok, this is a better O-line than last year.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

but isn't that saying almost nothing?
this is a better O-line than last year.

I mean we had, what, the 5th worst line in the league last year?

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 27, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

5th worst??

find me 4 worse lines

I dont care what the stats say, we and the Bills were equal last

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Apr 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was being generous.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

after what they put us through last year

this team does not deserve your generosity!!

:)

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Apr 30, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last 2 or 3 years

Samuels and Thomas were not that great. Samuels while not necessarily a shell of himself was not the player that went to pro bowls. Thomas was a good pulling guard but not since his leg injury. By the same token, the Team did not have any kind of backups, so active Samuels would have been better that Jones or Heyer at LT.

by Jefferson1935 on Apr 26, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Undrafted QB Darryll Clark

Clark broke several long standing passing records at Penn State last season and had a record of 24-4 as a starter. He is a mobile QB with a great arm. I think you’ll be hearing a lot more about him as time goes by. I think Colt will be looking for a job come september. Clark has a very similar game to McNabb and stands to really benefit from watching McNabb over the coming years. We got a steal with this undrafted free agent.

by Kurtstack on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

His record

Had to double check his record. It was 22-4 at Penn State. He’s got the goods. Surprised he wasn’t drafted.

by Kurtstack on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watched a lot of Big Ten-ish ball and Clark looked athletic and smart. Whether or not he can compete at the pro level is yet to be seen since half the Big Ten-ish was down for most of his career (no prolific Michigan program, mediocre OSU, Wisconsin had some slides) but if he has a chance to grow into a successful program like that which Shanny can help bring, he could be a solid guy in the future. Certainly better than Colt, and if he can catch up to the speed of the game, he’ll certainly be better than the Rex.

by gopens44 on Apr 26, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good to me.
think Colt will be looking for a job come september.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt still here says something

Never a part of the cult of colt but with only the addition of Clark as a UDFA. Colt must be interesting enough shanahan wants to take a look, IMO colt is very similar to Cutler just not as strong an arm

by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no one will work harder than Daryll Clark

as a long time Skins fan and lifelong PSU fan I am always happy when a PSU player goes to the Skins, but was especially happy to see this.

This kid worked his ass off on and off the field (academically). Even if it is holding the clipboard, he will give 110%

With the right coaching in the right environment he can be awesome.

Looking forward to a good/better season.

"There are only three certainties in college football: all players will eventually leave, the ACC will be bad, and Joe Paterno ", Clay Travis, CNNsi Fanhouse

by letsgopsu on Apr 26, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The low grades

are wrong and reflect a lack of knowledge. For one thing, most of the experts did not mention Capers or Morris – possibly great moves – and didn’t seem to realize that we could use help at LB. I wish we had grabbed Lefevour or Pike or some other QB for the future, but maybe Shanahan simply did not think any of the possibles were more promising than Rex or Colt. Incidentally, we got through the draft without trading away any good players, who are thus still available as trade bait. Any true grade should consider the whole offseason – trades, acquisitions, draft – and how we used our resources to strengthen the team. The draft was just one source of players. I’d give the Skins a B+ on the draft itself.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

2011

Pardon my ignorance, but how many picks do we have in the 2011 draft? We lose either round 3 or 4 to Eagles…what’s left (as of now)?

by TimmyG on Apr 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe that’s the only one we’ve traded so far.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least

the new regime showed a willingness to trade for more picks if need be. That says to me they see value in the draft. I don’t think we’re going to see the same tendency to throw picks away everywhere that we have in the past. Or at least I hope not.

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 26, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB Darryl Clark's Passing Records

This is impressive:

By the end of the 2009 regular season, Clark held five Penn State records:

Career touchdown passes (43)
Season touchdown passes (24)
Season passing yardage (3003 yards)
Season touchdowns responsible for (31)
Career touchdowns responsible for (65)

by Kurtstack on Apr 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Clark at PSU

Would you say that their switch to the spread in 2008 had anything to do with his numbers?

by bigredsnapper on Apr 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

But it certainly takes a good QB who can make good reads to run the spread offense.

by Kurtstack on Apr 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, Kiper projected us to pick Clausen

But that was a long time ago. Even before the McNabb trade, he had switched to projecting Okung, and by his last mock draft, he was going with Williams. They guy is allowed to change his mind, isn’t he?

by kseandoyle on Apr 26, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

ADALIUS THOMAS

I’d rather us sign him than Faneca. He’s a true 3-4 LB, why not? While we have other guys, it would be a good idea to get such a good player who’s experienced in the scheme

too bad carter/jarmon are positionless now. why are we moving again…?

by 8vechkin on Apr 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Kiper et. al. 'insiders'

I think Kiper and anyone else who had us taking Bradford / Clausen were all subject to getting the wrong insider information leaked to them. In an ideal situation, it was a rumor worth keeping alive for a potential trade down, but I think the lack of taking a QB even with our few other sparse picks shows how wrong it was in the eyes of Shanahan / Allen.

I think the Morris pick show that – it doesn’t seem to be a top need at all (even considering him in all TE / HB / FB positions), yet they went for him. If Shanny wanted a QB to groom that badly he wouldn’t have waiting to pick up a UDFA or 2.

In his defense, it does seem like in all the post McNabb mock drafts, Kiper had us going with Okung or Williams, but he was still giving plenty of air time to us picking up Clausen or trading up for Bradford.

by KenPat on Apr 26, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Morris/Kiper

Check out the youtube highlight reel on Morris, very convincing that he can give Big Mike a challenge as he’s an exceptional blocker, I found myself yelling in shock as I watched it alone at first at some of the blows he lays.

As for Kiper I believe that he had to stick by his initial word of Claussen despite how his personal thoughts may have shifted. His outcast pick reflected both his personal thoughts but also his general doubts in our organization to make the right pick despite a change of management and his sharing of a general media bias against the free spending Skins.
I hope ESPN is tying him a noose, I can’t stand the pompous bastard

by A-Frankie on Apr 26, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morris was a good pick

I’m not one of the naysayers on him (though I do wish we’d picked up a FS at least for the future, but I’m assuming Shanny/Allen feel good about Horton there at least over a draft pick, or a trade is still in the works).

His highlight reel is nice, but I’d love to see more of how he did against bigger programs. Still, he showed some athleticism nonetheless and even if he might not be a NFL-caliber blocking TE, I think he could definitely get the job done as an FB/HB.

by KenPat on Apr 26, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Morris was a very aggressive blocker

and it helped him to get open by suddenly becoming an athletic reciever. I also think Kiper + Douchebag = 2 Douchebags.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 27, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's right

Trust me, I’m a math teacher and I checked his arithmetic. It satisfies several properties of addition.

by mdm1185 on Apr 27, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 27, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

well for a change, I don't see a sense of madness

with our drafting startegy and no one has yet brought up our moves in free agency yet either.

We signed young vets that fit the schemes that are being implemented and dropped some overpriced older vets. The Hicks signing on the OL cannot be underestimated as it gives a proven “plug and play” person to use along the line. The OL philosophy is changing, with the new coaching staff, the OL will have to be more athletic, more fluid to handle the ZBS duties that are being implemented. Pretty sure that is why Cory L was signed to the team. Plus, we got tall athletic lineman in the draft, Williams, Hall and Capers all fit that category/type. Heyer might even rebound under the new staff, given how he was adequate under Gibbs and woeful under Zorn.

The pick used on Austin was to improve the return game, nothing more, nothing less. Say Buchanon turns out to be too important to the secondary, Austin was picked up to improve upon those woeful return numbers.

Riley fits as ILB depth, Fletcher can’t play forever and with Orakpo, MacIntosh, and Wilson as our holdovers appear to be OLB types with the exception of Blades.

Morris is most likely to be converted to HB/FB, to give Mr. Sellers some much needed competition to his sense of complacency.

the UDFA group has some possibilities, that RB out of LSU is intrigueing and the remainder of the emphasis being made on Safety, OL and DL. I’m not saying that we’re a complete team, but its a lot farther along than we usually are and we’re younger to boot.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Apr 26, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Drafts

Hmm I’m trying to figure this out. How is trading for a player in the league or with other team consider a draft. Now if you want to say we got a B+ for picking up good player then I would go for that. Now if you say what our grades would be for Drafting Talent then I would say it a C- if Silverback don’t become the next robert galley who we had high on the boards back in the day. You was right we won’t know for a couple of years if this draft works out or if this was a same repeat of the last 18 years.

by Niteoftheskins on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for putting all these in one place

It makes it pretty convient.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 26, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Quote from Mike Shanahan's fan address after the draft:

“Next guy, our third-round pick, obviously we didn’t have it in the draft, but Jeremy Jarmon — obviously, he’s comin’ off an ACL, but — we really feel that he could help us at the defensive end position next year

by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

THANKYOU KEVIN
Mel Kiper has zero credibility with me left. He’s a fantastic personality for TV, but he praised the JaMarcus Russell pick and of course pegged the Redskins to select Clausen despite zero tackles to protect him.

2 Resons I Hate Mel Kiper

1. I hate any person (and I am sad to say it seems to be a uniquely American Trait) who end a lot of the sentences with the works “OK” in this really arrogant tone,

2. His Hair

Bonus 3rd reason I hate Mel Kiper.

He is wrong so often, Bill Simmons did a joke Mock where he deliberately said that he just chucked it together and was more accurate than Kiper, I hate that dude.

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Apr 27, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Comedy Central

Comedy Central should do a NFL Draft show consisting of a Round table of Mel Kiper, Cerrato, and Matt Millen. How awesome would that be (for at least a couple minutes)?

Steinberg would love it more than me.

Hogs Haven. On Twitter. And Facebook.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 27, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt Chuck Casserly partly lose is job in Houston

due to the Kipers and the like lambasting his decision to pass on Reggie Bush and VY for that Mario Williams.

2 years later it looked like the right decision, and although VY is doing well now, I am sure they are happy with Schaub in Houston.

Moronic draftniks with no accountability causing a firing, ridiculous

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Apr 27, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

These draft guys

are like weathermen. They’re the only people in the world who can be completely wrong 80% of the time and still keep their jobs.

by CarverM on Apr 27, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Casserly was leaving Houston anyways

He knew that draft was his last draft there if I remember correctly.

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

amazingly I just read Perloffs mock draft for 2010 from last year

he got Bradford to St Louis and McCoy to Tampa 12 MONTHS AGO.

Yet Mel Kiper is the biggest name in draftnikness, just ridiculous

Clausen at 4, what an idiot

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Apr 27, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

My grade is a B+

and I include the trades in that (Carriker, Jarmon, McNabb & Campbell). I’m disappointed with the Campbell trade (a 4th was too low IMO) but I like the other moves. 3 OL was needed and getting Capers in the 7th was a huge steal. But we won’t really know the grade until the end of next season (or a year or 2 down the road).

by aFan4Life on Apr 27, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

A

Landing a top-10 QB for a 2nd Round draft pick was enough to make me ecstatic. Following that up with Williams and Capers was just icing on the cake. I honestly don’t know enough about the other players to change my grade one way or the other. Time will tell. I hated the Campbell trade, but from what I’ve read it was more about appeasing JC and separating on relatively good terms.

by VA_Skin on Apr 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does it bother people that the 4th is in 2012?

It will probably be a better spot than a 4th next year and a pick is a pick.

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

imagine if we trade down in next years draft and get another 2012 pick or two…we could have like 10 picks. my head would explode out of sheer joy. is it actually possible we might start building the most important way…? youth and depth on both lines

by Stillberry on Apr 28, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been saying this every year for 5 years

Yet every draft rolls around and we find ourselves sending out a couple of our first three picks for this or that veteran.

is it actually possible we might start building the most important way…?

Shanahan hasn’t yet shown he’s dedicated to actual rebuilding. In fact the McNabb trade says exactly the opposite.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with that logic concerning the McNabb trade

Yes we upgraded, and did it with an aging veteran, but this is not the same old song and dance. If it was, the left side of our line would read Faneca, Adams. (not to mention Peppers and Dansby on the other side) When rebuilding, I believe, that the QB should be about the last piece of the puzzle so he can come in behind a solid team and have a chance to perform. I am very pleased that we have a QB with a tradition of winning (even if he is/was an Eagle) to build our offense around. This gives the newbies to start from the beginning with an expectation of winning, and a QB who will command the authority to lead them….Donovan will have their attention. Who better available to grow a team around?…..This is no longer a place for diva all-pro’s to come to take a (well paid) vacation….that for now is a huge step in the right direction for the future….I think we are going to be a tough out this year. and we are moving in the right direction.

by MagicHat on Apr 28, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMHO we overpaid for the benefits you mention

over-paid by a long shot.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 3, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

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