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Roster Review

Looking over the roster and the players we have at each position, most positions seem somewhat set.   There are a few positions that I feel are a bit shaky and need to be addressed.  Here's the breakdown:

 

Offense:

QB: With McNabb at the helm, QB is set for the win now approach.  Backups? Eh.  Grossman is a capable backup and Brennan should make strides and push Grossman for the backup role.  It'll be interesting to see how the staff plans for the future.  My hope was to get in a young prospect and let him learn under McNabb as soon as possible while he is still here.  I'd look for the front office to put in serious time to scout next year's prospects.

RB:  Portis seems to be the starter in the early stages.  Parker and Larry Johnson will push Portis for time and I think that will be a great motivator.  I know many have expressed that only 2 of these backs will make the opening day roster but I honestly believe all 3 will make it.  Remember these backs were 'feature' backs and generally carried most of the team's load in terms of carries.  They won't have carry load anymore and should be fresh in the late stages of the game.  I envision McNabb and the passing game to flourish this season with Kyle Shanahan on board.  I'll make a bold prediction and say McNabb gets 35+ TDs this season BECAUSE of the running game --- something McNabb didn't have in Philly.  Next to QB, RB needs to be injected with youth.

WR:  Moss and Thomas look to be that starters.  Thomas however needs to elevate his game to avoid being demoted.  There isn't a lot of depth even though we have 8 or so receivers on the roster.  Other than Moss, Thomas, Kelly, and maybe Mitchell and Austin (the 7th round rook), I don't see any impact players.  I've said this before and I'm going to say it again, the Skins should look into 6'5" 215 pound UDFA WR Danario Alexander from Mizzou who is still unsigned.  He led the NCAA with in reception yards with 1700+.  Along with 113 receptions and 14 TDs.  He's fast, hard to take down, and physical.  I see his game similar to Brandon Marshall.

TE:  Probably the most solid position on the team.  Cooley will start but playing team and opportunities should be equal for Cooley and Davis.  We should see a lot of 2 TE sets with the lack of depth at WR.  I guarantee McNabb is thrilled.  Cooley and Davis are big targets and will help Donovan get that 35+ TD season.

OL:  Still needs work but 'Silverback' Williams is our building block.  Rabach is a solid Center and Hicks will battle it out with Heyer at RT.  I think Capers will crack the starting lineup later in the season at RT.  The Tackles should be just fine with 'Silverback' at LT and (hopefully) Capers holding down the fort at RT for years to come.  The interior part of the line needs the most work.  It needs youth but it should hold for now.  I'd look for them to address the interior part of the line next year's draft and possibly going after C/G Mike Pouncey from U Florida who should be the top interior lineman.

Biggest Need(s):  Youth at G/C positions, QB of the future, RBs of the future, depth at WR.

Bottom Line:  Expect more points to be scored this season.

 

Defense:

DL:  It's hard to tell at this point.  Is Haynesworth going or staying? No one knows for sure although Shanahan said he wasn't.  With a (hopefully healthy) Kemoeatu at NT, and Carriker at RE, the DL is somewhat taking shape.  Besides Jarmon and Golston, our DL needs more depth.  First and foremost, the situation with Haynesworth needs to be sorted out.

LBs:  I'm not satisfied with what we have.  It looks like our OLBs will be Carter and Orakpo, and the ILBs will be McIntosh and Fletcher.  Hopefully McIntosh will receive a long term deal.  Carter isn't a fit in this system and Fletcher will be 35 years old this season.  Maybe rookie Perry Riley will surprise us all and be next in line to fill Fletcher's role once he retires.  Maybe not. We'll see.  An OLB opposite Orakpo that can rush the passer is key and needs to be addressed.  Blades and Henson are the backups but LB is another position that needs a lot more depth.

CB:  Rogers and Hall are the starters.  However, Rogers will be 29 when the season starts even though he is only a 5 year pro whereas Hall is 26 and a 6 year pro.  Tryon played well last season and Barnes is improving but I don't envision any of them becoming a starter in the future.  We still need a solid Nickel CB and someone to replace Rogers in a year or 2.

FS:  Until November 27, 2007, this position was set for years to come with Sean Taylor.  But now I honestly don't know who the starter will be at this point.  With Landry moving back to SS, I can only see Horton becoming our FS....for now.  This is probably the BIGGEST need on the team right now.  A possible stop-gap could be bringing in Darren Sharper who still has some in the tank.  RIP #21.

SS:  Landry is finally back to his natural position.  I'm looking forward for him to used properly and make more plays.  Doughty proved he could be a reliable starter in this league and is underrated.  This position is set.

Biggest Need(s):  FS, depth at CB,  OLB, ILB, depth at all LB positions.

Bottom Line:  I think the switch to a 3-4 defense really caused more needs for this team.  If we had stayed a Base 4-3, Haynesworth would not be complaining, our LBs would be fine with the exception to finding a heir to Fletcher.  We would have only needed to move Landry to SS, find a FS, and continue to add depth.

 

Special Teams:

K: Gano is the incumbent with Medlock being the competition.  Kickers come and go recently and it's too early to tell but hopefully Gano can retain the job....for more than 8 weeks.  If he can, we'll have a young kicker for years to come.

P:  I really like Hunter Smith.  In fact, I was excited when we brought him in last offseason.  I know he couldn't stay healthy but I thought he was solid when he was.  In my mind he was the Offensive MVP right behind Fred Davis last year.  I don't understand the philosophy to bring in a Josh Bidwell who is older (by a year) than Smith.  If age determines if a punter gets hurt, what does that say about Bidwell?

KR/PR:  First and foremost, Randle El is gone...HALLELUJAH!  We drafted UCLA's Terrance Austin for a reason.  Hopefully what he did at UCLA, he can continue to do here and maybe contribute as a slot receiver as well.  Devin Thomas and Hall are capable to return kicks so these positions look set.  Cartwright averaged 22.3 yards/return on kickoffs.  He might as well just taken a knee for a touchback.

Biggest Need(s):  Punter.

Bottom Line:  Let's hope Gano can be solid.  Look for the return game to improve.  The kick return game should be better with Cartwright gone.  Punt returns should be able average more than 4.8 yards/return last year.

Poll
What's the ABSOLUTE biggest need right now?
QB of the future
14 votes
RB of the future
20 votes
OL
38 votes
DL
1 votes
LB
20 votes
CB
1 votes
FS
60 votes
WR
9 votes
K/P
3 votes
KR/PR
1 votes
More than one
18 votes

185 votes | Poll has closed

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Phillip Buchanon on the CB depth chart too.

He had a good year or two before disappearing (maybe because of the terrible pass rush).

Also, I haven’t heard Haynesworth complain, only media speculation (Jason La Confora) say that he is unhappy. I’m sure Shanahan would like him at this first voluntary camp, but if he shows up at the mandatory camp in top shape, nobody will remember any of this.

by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Buchanon

is a possible KR/PR guy as well.

by mdm1185 on Apr 26, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're right

i forgot that guy. we still could use more depth however

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pouncey

was drafted by the Steelers this year. How can we go for him next year?

by tblowe10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

they twin brothers

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joe Paterno
I WILL do great things so stand in my way if u want to come across because once the play starts its you and me.....
i always win

by HawaiiEaglesFanatic on Apr 27, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Were do I start, Doughty is to slow to play FS. He knows what to do but does not have the athletic ability to do it.

Laron Landry has all the physical tools but does not know what to do. Chris Horton has a little bit of both that is why he is our best safety. By the way just in case you missed it, Dennis Morris is now our best TE. He blocks better then Cooley is faster, is bigger, has great hands, runs great routes, etc. He is a stud and will play from day one. So if he blows up in the pre-season look for Cooley to be traded. Oh yea, Rabach is a average center at best we need to look for a replacement for him.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

who said Doughty was a FS?

you constantly respond to statements that have never been made..why? I have no idea.
I agree with your assesment of our safetys, just not the argumentative fashion in which you present them.
Your assesment of TEs is typical, “maybe you missed it……” wtf was there to miss? Morris hasn’t played a down in the nfl, how can you compare him to Cooley? you cannot defend the statement “…. is now our best TE”…. better combine #s? sure, for what they’re worth
I think we can all agree that TE is one of the strengths of the roster, along with SS.
lastly, “to” is not the same as “too”, a little nit-picky I know, but it really makes your posts hard to read.

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

it would make your posts a lot easier to read, honestly

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

Dennis Morris is not the best tight end. I’m sorry that he looked real sweet against WAC (Yeah, a pun, get over it) competition. And, Horton is not the best safety either.

That’s all. Not even gonna argue with this today, don’t feel like it.

by BigOLinemen on Apr 26, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LJP

I couldn’t have said it better myself Skins Fan ’77..

LJP – Morris hasn’t proven anything yet in the NFL. So hop off his nuts and don’t start making assumptions that he will be automatically playing from “day one”. Rabach is solid for what options are out there as of right now and I believe I did say that we should look at adding youth to the interior part of the OL anyway. And, please show me where I wrote that Doughty is a FS.

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

burg, Where is doughty going to play? Route running and catching passes does not evaporate when you make it to the NFL.

Dennis Morris has great hands, runs great routes, blocks great, is faster and bigger then Chris Cooley.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask the many WR busts that have come into the NFL
Route running and catching passes does not evaporate when you make it to the NFL.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rekka, they busted because of poor route running, bad hands or slow.

D- Mo runs great routes, has great hands and is fast for a 265lb guy. hey you need to compare apples to apples.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Chad Jackson – 4.32 40yd Dash, Went to U of FLA, big program, tied the school record for receptions (gotta have good hands to do that), also lead the SEC in that category. 900 yds, 9 TDs the year before he came out. All-SEC team 2005.

Need somebody else?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

good luck rekka, we all know how this is going to go

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember the LJP

of old. When you could have an intelligent back and forth and not have it dissolve into pettiness. I’m banking on that right now. I know how to cut it off if it turns into something else.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rekka, the only way that it will become petty is if you take it that way.

Look at any of my threads with the butt slapper posse. They take it that way so that is how the thread goes.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rekka, Did he run good routes? He obviously was lacking in some category.

D- Mo is big, 6’2 265 lbs runs great routes, has great hands and is fast.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was the man in college

didn’t find out until the NFL that he was missing something. Basically what happens to a lot of players transitioning to the NFL.

There’s a 50/50 chance Morris could succeed or fall on his face.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 26, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rekka, Let me know what D- Mo is missing? Good hands? Good routes? Tough? Big? Fast? Great Blocker?

Mark my word he will contribute on our offense as a rookie. He is 6’2 265 lbs and his frame could hold another 10-15lbs.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 27, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Experience against elite level competition.

When everyone else is as big and tough as he is (or more so).

by SSBlitz on Apr 27, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he's missing nfl game tape

and the prob with you throwing Cooley under the bus is:
would you rather have Cooley Davis Morris on the field or Morris Davis Sellars, if he can fill the whole at FB then we an keep him on the roster and he can be used as a TE as well in certain packages, Cooley is a greater asset to this team then Sellers and Morris but for the sake of arguement you gotta get your best players on the field why would you take off one of your best if he is challenged by an up and comer who could play at a different position…

by skinsfan28 on Apr 27, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhh

Where has he been playing for the last couple of years? It looks like I wrote him in at Strong Safety so……yea….strong safety.

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dennis Morris is not our best TE

Thats ridiculous. But I know you probably know that. I do agree that he was a good pickup, but I think he’ll transition to FB because we have one of the best TE tandems in the league.

And I love Chris Horton, but I’m afraid he is a step slow for FS. I hope he proves me wrong. He’s the kind of player that will get to spots on time because he has incredible instinct, but if he’s being expected to cover sideline to sideline and be our last line of defense on a regular basis, we’ll be in trouble.

And I actually agree with you about Rabach. He got blown up at the point of attack all the time and was a big reason that the running game struggled. Still, he’s a veteran center, and that can’t be overrated, you need someone who can read the defense and make the at the line calls. He was decent pass blocking too.

by Boo. on Apr 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give the D-Mo D S-ing a break

You’re going to make it so we don’t want him to succeed so we don’t have to listen to you rant and rave about another one of your longshots coming through.

by DoWork on Apr 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boy

He blocks better then Cooley is faster, is bigger, has great hands, runs great routes, etc. He is a stud and will play from day one. So if he blows up in the pre-season look for Cooley to be traded.

OK LETJASONPASSJAMARCUSONTHEDEPTHCHART, I don’t wanna keep going back and forth with you on this. I don’t know what makes you think Cooley sucks all of a sudden. He is a top 5 TE in this league. Frankly, I’ve always suspected you of having a slight case of A.D.D, mixed in with a little O.C.D, but I never thought of you as stupid. You HAVE to be saying this to ruffle some feathers. That’s the only explanation. You can’t possible believe, right now, that an unproven, 6th round pick with no tape against top tier talent will supplant one of the better tight ends in the league (who is in his prime). Hope? Maybe. (though, again, I don’t get all the distaste for Cooley) But you’re not preaching hope here. You’re selling a car without allowing for a test drive. The guy has yet to wear an NFL uniform. And, what’s worse, you’re making people want to root AGAINST him by pitting him against one of the most popular players on the team. Which is all wrong anyway, since he’s not even gonna play tight end for us.

by CJHutch on Apr 26, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

CJ, I could careless about popularity, maybe you did not notice. LOL Chris Cooley is a great receiver and route runner. That is about it, his blocking is average at best.

How do you know D- Mo will not play TE? Do you think they would have him listed at TE to pizzz off Cooley ? Shanahan has no loyalty to Cooley or any of these guys. He is about one thing winning. Who on HH is a bigger Jason Campbell fan then me? I did not complain about the Mcnabb deal because he is better then JC 17. So if and when D-Mo blows up we will have no need for Chris Cooley. He also will be our best trade bait.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 26, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's usually not a good strategy...

to intentionally “pizzz” off your best receiver when the guy plays hard all the time and is a great locker room influence. Shanahan being new to the team doesn’t erase Cooley’s resume. Cooley wasn’t like Portis, some guy whose production and attitude were declining, but who the old management was blindly loyal to. Cooley is a good player with a good attitude. He’s the only TE on our roster with a proven, consistent record of success.

Shanahan is new, but he’s not retarded. Chris Cooley doesn’t need any allegiance with a coach to be the starter. He’s earned that role through his actions on and off the field.

by Reedskin on Apr 27, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reed, Do what does these numbers mean to you ? 2002 1,508 yd's 15 td's / 2003 1,591 yds 14 Td's

These are C P’s stats at Denver. He was traded to us in 2004. Chris Cooley has and never will be as valuable as CP was to Denver and Shanahan traded him. I know you guys love Cooley. I am a huge JC 17 fan of course. But I am not complaining about Mcnabb. I know Mcnabb gives us a better chance to win now. So if Fred Davis keeps it up, and Dennis Morris steps up Cooley will be trade bait.

by LETJASONPASS on Apr 27, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT, LB

here’s a little quick fact….Okung has more starts at left tackle than our entire roster.
pop quiz-in 2009 when Samuels got hurt, who was the replacement? If Williams gets hurt this season, who is the backup?
I don’t think we did enough to improve the line, in fact, it may be worse.

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Not that that's not a very telling stat...

but does it include college starts made by our guys (since Okung is getting them)? Trent Williams has about 1 season at LT. Mike Williams has at least 1, probably more. Apparently Heyer had 37 college starts at LT at Maryland. So yeah, I’m calling that a busted stat, albeit one which suggests a point that holds true—we are thin at OT (and the rest of the OL).

by Reedskin on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree, busted

but Heyer and Mike Williams have already busted as LTs so do they count? jk
what isn’t a joke is how thin we are at tackle….again!
how does this keep happening?

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LT

It is clear that we lack depth at LT. But TW is young and there is no reason to think he will get hurt, so, if we’re lucky, lack of depth won’t be a problem. But if he did get hurt, they’d probably look at Capers and Hicks. But it would be good if they could get an experienced backup, like Flozell Adams or others mentioned on HH. Can Faneca of the Jets play LT? One problem is that those vets might be expensive.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

this doesn't sound the least bit Vinnyish to you?

“if we’re lucky, lack of depth won’t be a problem”?
That is exactly what the problem has been! (and still is)

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lack of depth

I realized how it could be compared to last year. But the situations are different. Samuels and Thomas were both old and often injured. The team should have realized how tenuous the situation was, and moved hard to be ready – get guys to be both backups and future starters. This year we have a young guy with no career type injuries. I think that most guys like that don’t get hurt for several years, if at all. So, of course Trent could go down in the first game, but it’s very reasonable to expect him to make it through the whole season. So, as Vinny said, you don’t get Pro-bowlers to be backups. I’d say get a very promising rookie (like Capers, who could backup LT while battling for the RT start) or a solid veteran who’s versatile and willing to backup and/or play several positions – like Hicks, or Pete Kendall. Or Levi Jones, who played LT last year, and can also play RT. What is the story on Levi?

by Donnio1234 on Apr 26, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Levi

evidently doesn’t fit the scheme, nor does Flozell.
If T Williams doesn’t start and work out for 16 games, #5 is going to be a cameo role on this team. McNabb will not stand up to the punishment that Campbell took.

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by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adams, Jones

You could be right – they may not fit the system. Guys like me see that we need a tackle, then look at Flozell – who had been a good tackle – and think he’s the answer. So Vinny/Dan would have jumped on him without checking with the coaches. Now, Shanahan is the boss, and he can see that Adams (e.g.) can’t do what he wants him to do – so just does not go after him. Good! I can’t see why they re-signed Heyer, but they must think he can serve as a backup. Mike said (in an article in the Wash Post) that they were not done, they were still looking for trades and free agents to upgrade the team. I hope to heck they can find a tackle to solidify the O-line. Once again, I have to trust Shanahan’s judgement. We can grade his performance in a couple of years.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 26, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt Brennan

I know I’m not breaking any news here, but this years camp is make or break for Colt, maybe even for his career. While I never considered myself part of “the Cult”, I have always liked Brennan.
Personally, I think Shanahan is the best coach for him to hit this crossroads with. I could be alone here, but his style of play and flair for the dramatic seems very similar to that of the QB’s Shanny has had success with in the past (i.e Plummer, Cutler, and Elway) OK, settle down guys – no I’m not putting him on par with any of those guys (especially Elway). I just think his game is similar to these 3. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him flourish under Shanahan.

Now, that said, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him cut before the season. But them not drafting a QB tells me that Shanny at least has some hope for him.

by CJHutch on Apr 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Brennan

Rex is only going to get the role because he’s been in the system b4, but i hope Colt gets a legit shot

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt

I, too, liked him and hoped Mike would give him a chance. And it looks as if he will. Go Colt!

by Donnio1234 on Apr 26, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

NT

I’m still not convinced that we have a legitimate NT to make this 3-4 switch.

by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

it looks like we’re betting on Kemoeatu. we do have Golston, and Montgomery behind him. but yea we can use a “true” NT.

by burgold21 on Apr 26, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemoeatu is a rediculous NT

When he’s healthy. Remember that a lot of our fronts will continue to be 4 man too, though.

by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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