2010 NFL Draft: Redskins Select LSU OLB Perry Riley in 4th round
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
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Newest LB Perry Riley is expected to move into the ILB position. He was a freshman at LSU when Laron Landry was a Senior and has 4 years experience as a Special Teams player. The Redskins have some holes to fill there with the loss of ST Captain Rock Cartwright, and of course moving to a 3-4 they need more LBs. I think we all wanted Bruce Campbell, the OT from Maryland, but Peter King brought up an interesting point, which may have showed up on tape and ultimately been the reason Shanahan passed on him:
Peter King: Biggest knock on Bruce Campbell is he got zero votes for all-ACC first team at tackle. If you're a great player, that doesn't happen.
Via CBSSports.com...
Riley was rarely overshadowed and was highly productive at LSU. In two seasons as a starter (2008-09) he racked up 157 tackles (77 solos), the second most over that time period by an LSU player.
Riley played the weak-side linebacker position for the Tigers but projects to make a switch inside at the next level. Riley can take on blockers and possesses the strength and size to move to middle linebacker in the NFL.
Season by season accolades and stats after the jump...
YEAR PBU QBH INT FF 2006 2007 2008 13-9 37 23 60 7.0-23 1.5-9 3 3 1-17 0 1-0 2009 13-13 40 57 97 4.5-13 0-0 5 2 1-0 1 1-0 Totals
Via CBSSports.com...
| 2009 Season |
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Named to the preseason watch list for the Butkus Award, presented annually to college football's top linebacker ... Ranked second on the team and eighth in the Southeastern Conference with 97 tackles (40 solo), including 4.5 stops for losses of 13 yards ... His average of 7.5 tackles per game ranked 10th in the SEC ... Forced one fumble and recovered another ... Intercepted one pass and deflected five others, including one on a third-down attempt ... |
| 2008 Season |
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A finalist for the 2008 Butkus Award and Defensive MVP of the Chick-fil-A Bowl, Riley added another 10 pounds of muscle to his frame, going on to start nine of the 13 games he played in at strong-side linebacker ... Registered 60 tackles (37 solo) with 1.5 sacks for minus-9 yards, three QB pressures and seven stops for losses of 23 yards ... Recovered a fumble and returned an interception 17 yards ... Riley's performance inside the box helped the Tigers finish 17th in the nation in rush defense, allowing only 110.15 yards per game. |
| 2007 Season |
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Riley added over 10 pounds to his frame since the end of the 2006 season, going on to play in 14 games behind veteran Luke Sanders at the "Buck" (strong-side outside linebacker) ... Recorded 24 tackles (nine solos) with an assisted sack for minus-6 yards and 1.5 stops for losses totaling 10 yards ... Playing for the Tigers' coverage unit, he delivered 14 of his tackles, tops on the squad ... |
| 2006 Season |
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As a true freshman, Riley appeared in seven games, seeing action mostly on special teams ... Understudied behind Ali Highsmith at the "Buck" position ... |
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Considering how bad Henderson was for Oakland(Worst LT in the League last year)
Campbell might be starting for the Raiders this season.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably.
But it would have been really nice for us to shore up our 2 sides with Williams on the left and Campbell on the right.
agreed I would have gone Campbell
Oh well.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just glad there are no more Campbell’s in DC
~~~ R0cK D@ R3D ~~~
by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 26, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
This guy is a great linebacker at this spot, but I don’t see linebacker as a need UNLESS we trade McIntosh/Carter. This is a real shame in my opinion.
Not just Bruce Campbell, but Jonathan Dwyer? LaGarrette Blount? Myron Rolle? Kam Chancellor? Sergio Render? We are leaving starter quality RB, OL, and FS on the board. It hurts, a lot to see us go to linebacker for depth here, as opposed to a spot where we could have someone come in and start. Hurts a lot, my only hope is that maybe by our 5th rounder, we maybe traded Campbell for another 5th, and a guy like Blount is around, Rolle/Chancellor, Wang/Black, guys like that. I am a big VT fan, and there are some guys who could fill some voids in the 5th, but come on…we had a beautiful fit, and I feel like we wasted it (just because we didn’t need this guy)
Gotta agree.
If you look at it from this perspective, it makes more sense to with a LB here; we are THIN at LB, have been for years; we’ve got a few good LBs (more with the switch to 3-4, but now we NEED more), but some of them have Age issues, some have injury issues.
Fixing this team is at least a two year thing… we won’t get all the pieces, not with only 4 picks. Next year, get another OL (or maybe two) who you can groom for more depth, but you’ve got to spread out the reload everywhere or you’ll get really old, and really bad, when one area reaches it’s end.
This is what troubles me...
I agree, if we are going to be running base 3/4, then we need a lot of help at the LB position. But that’s still an ‘if’, it likely will just be a package we run from time to time, because our D-Line is completely unsuited to run that as a base defense.
We know beyond the shadow of a god dammned doubt that O-Line is a need. Like, it was a need two years ago. So why not go for depth at Round 4 (because honestly, is Riley going to be out there for more than 40% of the plays anyways?), especially with a physical talents like Campbell?
by TerroristFistJab on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
draft
campbell would have been a project,but a project worth taking,but i really wanted joe mcnight from usc!
by the fantasy king on Apr 24, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
sounds like
we got us a nice special teams player. Good use of our second pick.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
He'll definitely play ST and ILB
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
then again
We do need an inside linebacker with some more size than we have for the 3-4. Maybe the kid can really play. Didn’t watch too much LSU this past year myself. Positive thinking… (it’s a new concept for me, too!)
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
LFB is 35, how much longer do you expect him to perform?
he is only good for another year or two tops…and Rocky is very unlikely to be on the team when the season starts.
Rocky will be on the team this year.
If they were going to trade him, it would have happened yesterday. So he’s unhappy with his contract? Plenty of guys have been unhappy with their contracts but still played.
by Martin Shatzer on Apr 24, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you're right
I just imagined he’d be the throw in on any deal involving Campbell. Either way, I like having a bona fide LB on the squad, thereby freeing up Orakpo to wreak havoc however the staff sees fit. Plus the guy projects to be able to play on the inside as well. This is a good pick.
by KellRawLive on Apr 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s good that he’s versatile. Even if he just starts out as a backup and teams player, iwe don’t have much depth at LB and he can play on the insider or out.
Plus they don’t just nominate ANYBODY for the Butkus award.
by Martin Shatzer on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Good pick
The guy seems to be a hell of a football player. Some speed, but a good football player. I have hopes for him.
u dont draft a guy to replace an old one down the road
when u have other needs.
im never watching the draft again
On another note...
I would pay a billion dollars and my faulty torn rotator-cuffed left arm for Ozzie Newsome to come south. Man, that guy is GOOD. I like him a LOT better than Belicheat.
I just made this jersey on NFL Shop....who wants one????
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
now what
do we go OL or RB if there are any left worth drafting,maybe blunt from oregon even thought i want a smaller quicker back,i dont know whats left out there!
by the fantasy king on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
DEFINITELY need a RB, and there are some good ones still left.
I’d like to see a FS…but probably pointless this late.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
so many holes
We pretty much have to sign Flozell now don’t we?
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard JJ might sign him back
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
No, but he's probably the best option.
If I were Allen, I’d have one of my guys talking with his agent, NOW.
RB
Unless we are going to cut/trade one of our Old Big 3, how would another RB even make the team, much less play?
I highly doubt all three make the opening day roster
1)It would be defying the odds for all 3 of those guys to stay healthy and be worthy of an roster spot
2)I doubt all 3 would be active on game days as none play ST.
3)There would be no one being developed for the future and we would have a gaping hole the season after this one
I think they are fighting for 1-2 spots. Much like how we are throwing all these people out on our D-line hoping we find a solid player or 2.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree that all 3 staying is doubtful
but, I do think 2 out of the 3 making it is likely. Sellers will be active every game. That means the drafted player will likely be sitting on the practice squad available for other teams to snatch up.
I just think that good-to-great RBs seem to come out in every draft and it’s one of those positions that can make an immediate impact from Day 1, without needing years to develop. We could easily stick with what we’ve got this season and find a blue chip RB anywhere in the 1st-2nd Round next year, especially with Shanny’s skills at spotting RB talent.
If 2 of them make it and we keep Sellers there is PLENTY of room for a RB on the 53 roster
It would not be on the Practice roster. Most teams have 3 RB’s in addition to the FB active every game with one contributing on ST. Think Portis, Betts, Rock. I just think if we count on just those three to get us through the entire 16 game season we will be sorry. Also with Shanny’s skills at spotting RB talent I wouldn’t want him using a high pick on a RB anyways.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That means Torain and Alridge are probably gone
Also with Shanny’s skills at spotting RB talent I wouldn’t want him using a high pick on a RB anyways
Unless the next Chris Johnson or AP is sitting there in the 1st or 2nd…
"Unless the next Chris Johnson or AP is sitting there in the 1st or 2nd…"
Thats a valid point but I’m more worried about finding the next Aaron Rogers, Volmer, Loadholt, Revis, Wilfork, Clay Matthews, Desean Jackson etc…. in the top 2 rounds next year. I wouldn’t mind a RB with our next pick but wouldn’t object to one of our many other postions of need.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes...
Jason Reid just tweeted a JC trade i picking up a lot of steam
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
is* picking up
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I really wanted Campbell there, but I’m happy to see we filled what is IMO our second biggest need.
John Carlson: Slays Canadians and Canadiens.
Yeah we have so many holes it is tough to argue with any pick outside of TE or SS
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Meh, we have so many 3-4 DE’s and I think that taking more WR’s this year would be stupid. I don’t think we need a QB either(but I was happy with JC17). I think we’re also missing a #2 CB, but I think we have the nickel role filled.
RB, FS, LB, any Oline, NT, all would be fine picks. I’d prefer we take another OT, but a C or late round RB for depth would be fantastic.
Hopefully shanny brings in some UDFA NTs and Gs.
John Carlson: Slays Canadians and Canadiens.
Cowboys draft IUP defensive back Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Damn…he’s a good return man too.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
I'm a Penn State fan and IUP alum
Sean Lee and Akwasi to Dallas??
::vomits::
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever happens at this point, we probably need to go ahead and extend Carlos and/or Rocky
One of those two at least needs to be given a longer term contract, based on the results of this draft at this point. I would also say we look heavily at Flozell Adams. Give three year deals to RockyMac and ’Los at this point, with incentives (health for Mac, Ints for ’Los).
Unless they sign for cheap I don't know about that
Until we see Rocky in the 3-4 it would be unwise to extend him. Carlos is very inconsistent. Honestly I’d wait till we got into the season especially since there will be so mnay FA’s available next summer. If they will sign for really cheap though of course I’d do that.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
That's just it... the Devil you Know kind of thing.
Both RockyMac and Carlos have the abilty to be very good, even stars, potentially, but they can also underpform. I think both are realistic enough to realize that they should be in the 1.5-3 range; they just want a signing bonus, (throw 2 mill each) and incentives in. Lower the non-incentive side (so maybe they’re signed on for $2m/year, with a $2m signing bonus, $100K/year workout bonuses, and performance incentives (say, $500K for All-Pro, or such), etc. Could be a very reasonable cost, but big payoff for us if it works out. Contracts short enough that it gives them serious incentive to play each year. And if you aren’t happy, you can continue to target those spots next year for a young fill in.
by BillWard on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I'm more skeptical about them finding a number that is safe enough for us but satisfies them
especially with Rocky never playing 3-4. If they come very cheap and low risk then of course.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Both know that they have no choice, this year.
And next year is going to be so overflooded, they’re not going to have much value there, either.
So, both may be pissed, but that’s the way the NFL is for their particular group; they need to suck it up, and find a way to profit.
The best profit they can get is to sign a three year deal (long enough to avoid the 2011 mess, and short enough that they can have a chance at a payday contract in 2012-2013-2014. It’s the best move they can make.
Did anyone see that Clayton article yesterday saying we were trying to trade DT?
Why would we do that unless it was for a more established reciever. I think he’s gonna have a very solid year as a #2 this year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5130721
Leon Washington was unstoppable last year when I traded for him in Madden
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like something
Cerrato would have used for a trade evaluation
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Would preferred Campbell
but this isn’t irrational. We’re thin at LB and if we’re really going to be converting to 3-4 we may need him. Our 1st round pick made sense so I’m keeping my Vinny era skepticism in check.
"would have preferred"
stupid hangover
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really want an appraisal of the Skins 2010 draft?
There are 2 7th round picks to go. Nothing impressive so far.
by Jefferson1935 on Apr 24, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps I was premature.
Dennis Morris looks like a very good blocking TE – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LARorin9Aos&feature=related
The Skins did end up with 2 OL in the 7th round. There were some OL prospects when they chose the LB that may have been better than the ones selected later. Capers has good speed for a OT and played RT most of last season for West Virginia. Capers may not have shown that well at the Senior Bowl, but as a few have said those short term situations favor the defensive players. Erik Cook, C, is a good size guy, but not particularly fast. Cook is also a guard prospect and with Rabach’s age the Team has enough C to select from. The Colts have used centers at other OL positions so the Skins would not be an exception.
Overall the FO did not do that bad considering their overall draft situation.
by Jefferson1935 on Apr 24, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Great value, great pick.
Top 10 lb in the draft, and frankly, you can never have enough guys that can tackle and cover a lot of space on the field. LB is extremely deep this year. I am very happy with this pick, as much as I would have liked to have seen Bruce Campbell play for the Redskins.
Yep...
Good pick, Riley will show more immediate return, and will soon be a starter on special teams and at LB. Campbell may never start at OL, and if the Skins need a 2nd stringer to start now, then they got plenty of ’em.
by Scorin' Scalps on Apr 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Blount and Dwyer are still on the board!!
Just saying. 2 guys I would have thought would go in the 3rd. Dwyer was nasty. Blount too.
Ciron Black or Myron Rolle
are my preferred choices at the moment
though Rolle may still be there in the 7th by the looks of things
Pommylee
If we can go sign
Alan Faneca, this will be a much more successful “draft” day.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Faneca was not very good last year
Not sure he’s worth bringing in.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's our better option
at RG? Thought he was still fairly solid, compared to what we have. Don’t think Ray Brown is coming back out of retirement.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Just don't know if he was a real improvement over Dockery, Mike Williams or Hicks.
He’s falling off rapidly and is a one year stop gap that I’m not sure would win a starting spot.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
PLEASE
get ciron black or Reshad Jones (i can’t believe reshad is still on the board) I feel like i’m the only one that knows about this guy
JC to Oakland?
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
i think it’s for their 6th and 7th
LEON WASHINGTON to SEAHAWKS for their 7th round pick… WHAT THE F>….I can’t believe that…
For 2 picks
is what they’re reporting right now. Hopefully a higher pick next year and not a 6th and 7th this year. Would love a 3rd next year.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
that’d be a much better deal and get us at least partially back from what we gave up for McNabb
I’ll be sad to see JC go but I wish him well. Too bad he’s going to another retarded franchise. Maybe they’ll at least be more appreciative of him after their QB woes.
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This year's draft is MUCH deeper than next year's is projected to be
as you can see by names still left on the board…..glad we got something for JC
In any case...
like Lenny Dykstra said about the Andy Van Slyke trade: “Great trade. Who’d we get?”. Not that I didn’t like JC, but he clearly had no place here at this point.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
JC trade was a mistake.
He will blow up in Traiders land. Way to do a good guy completely wrong. F the Skins.
At this point
it had to be done. As soon as McNabb came in there was no way we could hold onto him. I’d love to have seen him behind a stronger O-line but the finger has been on the trigger for awhile now.
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So at least we will see Grossman
this year when McNabb gets killed. And watch him not sign long term!!!! I wouldn’t.
JC is better than Grossman.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that is my point. IMO, he is just a step behind old ass McScabb.
Besides, I HATE MCNABB!!!!! We all should! i am so fucking sick of rooting for the enemy. Denver’s HC. Tampa’s Gm. Philly’s QB. Denver/KC/Pitt backs. Tennessee’s trash on our line. PLEASE just draft and develop our guys. JUST LKE THE CAPITALS!!!!!!!!!!!
Colt will be off the roster...
In a matter of months.
by TerroristFistJab on Apr 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than letting him rot here.
And yeah, it sucks to not give him his own choice, but you’ve gotta think about the team first.
by soup du jour on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta be a typo...
surely he means 2011…right?
by soup du jour on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Reid said
6th round this year and a “later” pick.
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
2012?
Why not next year?
This series is taking years off of my life.
by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
All the luck...
to JC. I supported him while he was here, but, he’s not a starter in the NFL. He has the physical ability, but lacks the mentality. No matter what happens now, this will be a new Redskins team, for better or worse.
can someone advise of the exact JC trade
its 3:20am here in AUstralia and here I am sitting up waiting for news
do me a solid people
Pommylee
NFL network
reports that it’s for a future draft consideration.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think so too.
Someone above mentioned a 6th rounder and a ‘future’ pick.
Could it be a 6th this year and a 4th in 2012? Would that even make sense?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
SChefter said 4th in 2012 and they extened JC for 1 extra year
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 24, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
2012 may be better than 2011
with all the juniors that have come out this year and the confusion that will surround next years draft with the lockout looming
Pommylee
J Reid said that earlier
looks like he was incorrect.
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think this is bogus then.
JC for a 4th in 2012 sounds like the guy that was literally traded for a bag of baseball bats.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Most humorous line from J. Reid's post
“In Oakland, Campbell should have a chance to start, as he joins an impressive group of quarterbacks that includes JaMarcus Russell, Charlie Frye, Kyle Boller and Bruce Gradkowski.”
Impressive? JC is the unquestioned started in this group.
Wasn't JC the 15th best QB in the league last year?
That for a team not making the playoffs with an OL held together with spit and ducktape. How is he not worth more?
How is he not considered an instant starter?
How did we not hold on to him as our backup over Grossman?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Cost
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
His new contract only pays him 5 million over the next 2 years.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're wrong about that
$3.14 mill in 2010 and $4.5 mill in 2011
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok 7 million.
We would have only had to pay the 3.1 million for him to back up this year.
7 million is still peanuts for a starting caliber QB in the NFL.
If we traded him to Oakland for a 4th in 2012 on cost concerns, that is bogus. We have paid soooo many overpriced vets at the end of their careers that cost can’t be a concern here. That is my point.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, for what?
Anyone have any idea what Miami has that we need? Are we just trading back for the future? Did we pick up a vet?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And @Kia -
With our 163 they took your man Reshad.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT
i can’t believe it… i almost barfed…. twice
reshad jones… watch his film – i hate to say this… but very sean taylor-esque
Matt Millen
once again showing his briliance (snark) on draft day. Way to keep the streak going, Matt!
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
So....
Tony Pike & Dan LeFevour still on the board? Not bad value for the 6th, and we do still need a 3rd stringer.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
cant believe I am using these words
but
OAKLAND HAS HAD A TERRIFIC DRAFT
RD 1 an LB that everyone agrees is great
then in the 4the
Bruce Campbell and the typical AL Davis 40 time based pick
and now Jason Campbell for a 6th and a future 4th
Oakland doing well what the hell is going on
Pommylee
Agreed
Somebody lied to Al and told him the draft started today.
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Did we get their 6th as well? Still haven’t seen anyone say that
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
this is tragic
basiclaly nothing for Campbell
considering our success rate on 4th round picks in recent years
Pommylee
We didn't get a sixth for Campbell.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF????
Just what we need – a TE
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
How many TEs does a team need again?
Didn’t we have a WTF TE pick last year?
I feel like a Lions fan all of a sudden.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
Right....
I wish I felt like a Lions fan today.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Referring to the many many years of a WR pick in the first round.
Otherwise knows as the Millen era.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Raiders are ecstatic.
Although some of the more delusional are saying that Gadowski should be the starter, with JC being the backup… One evey thinks Jamarcus Russell is still the starter….
Division 1-A
TE of the year, looks like
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
How well can he block?
Maybe he can play RT
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
HE is only 6-2 265
We would need to bulk a lot.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the worst run organization in the NFL.
Here comes2-14 with a TE with our #1 overall pick!!!!!!! F the skins.
Last year
38 rec, 623 yds, 12 tds
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions
Think he may be
a blocking, pass-catching H-Back.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
He won't
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We have to assume we are trading some people, right?
We drafted another LB, another TE, and yet have holes elsewhere.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
finished his career in 2009 as an All-American and tight end trophy recipient of the College Football Performance Awards.
Whatever that is. Would guess he’s taking Seller’s role.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
Must have been
highest rated player left on our board. Way to work it through, fellas. And still with three 7th-rounders to f up.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
My bad...
You are correct sir.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Rich Campbell says
This TE wasn’t even invited to the combine. Why would you waste a pick on a guy like that when chances are you can sign him as an Undrafted FA?
Because it's the Washington Redskins.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That assumes there is logic to this
a very dangerous assumption
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cooley
for a third rounder in 2021.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, isn't that what everyone meant by thinking of the future???
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Al Davis
Probably saw the 2012 movie and figured the world would be over by then anyway.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a strong possibility
That the Raiders are competitive by then and we’ll end up with the 120th pick in the draft for Jason Campbell. That’s absurd.
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the NFP review of LeFevour:
“An overrated quarterback prospect who struggles when asked to make NFL throws. Looks like nothing more than a backup QB. "
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry about that.
Smith just drafted by Houston.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind
Tony Pike in the 7th.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
Or Dwyer / Blount
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
and there goes Dwyer.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
In Shan-allen we trust
How can we trust them after they put forth such a stellar draft like this?
by killianskid34 on Apr 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, they haven't drafted a K or P yet.
Fingers crossed.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
Curious.
Why does everyone here have Ciron Black rated higher?
Maybe I have just not paid that much attention to planning for the 7th round, but why not Selvish Capers or some of the other ‘higher’ ranked OTs on the board? And why does no one seem concerned with drafting OG or C?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking for myself
I had just heard some good things about him
then on this very site I read them magic words that make me love a player
“was rated higher before the combine”
I hate the combine, the guy starts for 4 years at a big program in a good conference, but then he doesnt run a 40 quick enough or bench press enough and he plummets
TRUST HOW HE PLAYS NOT HOW HE WORKS OUT IN AN ARTIFICIAL FORMAT
Pommylee
100% agree
but that TE pick makes no sense
I have talked myself into Perry with the 3-4 but the TE is madness
he will not be in the 53 man roster come opening day
just madness
Pommylee
How about
Myron Rolle? Wasn’t he rated as a 1st rounder before taking a year off to go to Oxford?
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
I have nothing against Rolle.
My question is just whether S is our biggest remaining need (or if one even considers need at this point in the draft).
Are we going to find a diamond in the rough (which I fear at this point means someone who will make the team), or just bodies for camp and the practice squad?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Our late round picks
of late would indicate the latter.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
I am (still) hoping that 'of late' means Cerrato
whose era is supposed to have ended. Right?
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
We all thought so
until we drafted a TE. (Shakes head….)
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
and there goes pike
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Must be for a future
Our only pick left is 219 (from the Dolphins)
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We get 229 and 231.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
NFL.com hadn’t updated it when I was looking
by ReggieBullits on Apr 24, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
we have to wait
we knew Shanahans talent evaluation was his weak spot
lets just hope his clock management and playbook are good enough to comensate for poor picks’’
A fucking TE with all our other needs
unless Cooley is not recovering from his injury as well as we thought it makes no sense
Pommylee
forgive my foreign ignorance Bill
but I kept hearing about this H-Back position with regard to Tebow
What exactly is the difference between a H-Back and a RB
Pommylee
OMG we just took a WR>
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously
Terrence Austin, WR, UCLA.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
forgiveable
if hes big
Shanny has no reason to trust Malcolm Kelly and Santana is on the downside of his career
plus surely in the 7th Round you cant expect too much
just take best player available
I just wish we had used our 7th to move our 5th up into the 4th or 3rd personally
these guys are borderline FA’s now
Pommylee
5'11" 180lbs.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
4.38 40 time
Looks to be a pr/kr type guy.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Maybe we still get him.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
what about my man Ciron Black
gets invited to the Senior Bowl and still sitting their in the 7th Round
please take a punt on him Shanny, Please, I ahve sat up here in Australia from Midnight to now 5:56am at this stage.
give me some joy for staying up, please
Pommylee
I hope he stays there for you.
Maybe we can sign him and Blount as UDFAs. Fingers crossed.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Blount has to be picked up by someone
one punch can not kill a guys career when Pacman Jones is getting 4th and 5th chances
Pommylee
So to recap
we got an OT, OLB, TE and WR, and traded Cambell away for a bag of chips? I hope they know what they are doing.
Tried to tell you guys awhile ago
Shanahan and Allen’s draft records are not stellar. Look them up.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Apr 24, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Allen's draft record is fine...
It’s Shannahans that has sucked. He’s got a 40% BUST ratio, even in the blue chips.
But the man can pick RBs. To bad he didn’t pick one for us in this draft.
Who do you think built that Bucs team that was drafting 3rd today?
Allen (with Gruden’s help of course).
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by bigbluethruandthru on Apr 24, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If we get a good returner and a good H-Back
That’s pretty good, right? I don’t know anything about (Terp) Campbell, but why not throw us a bone and walk away able to say “We addressed our need on the offensive line?” Don’t try to show us you’re a genius by picking guys that make no sense because you think you can turn them into players. That’s what Vinny did.
If they picked up Campbell, I think everyone here would be satisfied that they focused on the line.
Lineman! Center
Eric Cook – New Mexico 6’-6", 318
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But may be
guard in NFL. First team All-Mountain West (power conference) selection 2009.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN has him listed as a Guard
so you could be right
this seems OK
Plus really we cant be expecting miracles from 7th Rounders.
But that position, C or G seems to lend itself to late round gems, Jeff Saturday was UDFA or 6th Rounder if my memory is right
Pommylee
There are still a lot of good prospects that did not get drafted.
Hopefully the Skins will also get some good UDFAs in to camp Sunday. Let those phones ring.
by Jefferson1935 on Apr 24, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And another
Selvish Capers – WVU. If either one of them can play, well done.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
I hope he at least pushes for time with Heyer.
Competition is good.
Having backups is also good.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I was reading
He should be a tackle instead of a guard anyway. Struggles against speed rushers, but a very good athlete.
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by Backhanded Complement on Apr 24, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally, more picks that make sense (after Williams at 4)
So glad there are at least bodies to plug into the line next year.
I hope these guys pan out and all the trading back was because they were falling.
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by matthiasstephan on Apr 24, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
this is good
Capers has been talked up in a few places
now just get Ciron Black as a UDFA
and this has been a good day
well I;ve been up all night for this its 630am
im going to bed, goodnight all
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later.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 24, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
just read the ESPN review
and description of our picks
all the players seem defensible, even the TE/HBAck
The WR sounds like he might be a Wes Welker type, making plays in traffic
,aybe this draft is not so awful after all, I understand the ILB pick with the move to the 3-4 just was initially confused when he was listed as a OLB
Pommylee
you mean ANOTHER SANTANA MOSS
but worse. Great.
yeah cos Santana has been so productive the last couple of years
and of course he miraculously gets younger as time passes.
I love Moss and hope he plays lights out this year, but a Late Round pick on a possible impact reciever who fits the mold of the prototypical new age slot reciever, (Small Tough, Quick good hands) I dont think you can crititcise the pick, remember this is not a second rounder we are talking about here
Pommylee
I don't get it...
Why is everyone so high on players from Maryland? Heyer is not an impact player by any means, I cringe when I think of him starting at tackle. And you say why not Bruce Campbell? Why not some big farm boys from the Big Ten or Big 12? I don’t mean to offend any UMD fans but come on people…No accolades in the ACC? That sucks, I take Riley over him any day.
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