3 Players That The Redskins Should Consider Moving Into Round Two For
by Tiller56 on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 AM EDT
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PrintIt may be tough for the Redskins to move back into the Second Round of the 2010 NFL Draft, after sending their origional second round pick to the Eagles for Donavan McNabb, but there are 3 players I have identified, that are still avaliable after the first round, that might be of some consideration to the Redskins.
Charles Brown OT 6-5 303 USC
The run on offensive tackles within the top 10 that many had predicted failed to materialize, with teams like the Bills and Raiders ignoring the offensive line in favor of questionable choices. These teams, as well as the Detroit Lions, may be looking into the second round to select an offensive tackle. Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell and Roger Saffold all remain on the board, but all are likely to go pretty early in the second. I really like Brown, and believe he can be a franchise type offensive tackle. He can play on either the left or right side, and his athleticism fits well into a zone blocking scheme, something he is familiar with from his time at USC. Brown and Trent Williams would be a good pair of bookend tackles for the Redskins to build around.
Sergio Kindle OLB/DE 6-3 250 Texas
Could you imagine Kindle paired opposite Orakpo in the 3-4 defense? I'm sure NFC East offensive coordinators don't want to have to game plan for this. For me, Kindle was the biggest surprise not to be selected in the first round. He is an extreme talent at rushing the passer, and fits perfectly into the OLB roll in the 3-4 defense. He and Rak could make for one of the most feared linebacker tandems in the NFL for years to come.
Taylor Mays FS 6-3 203 USC
Had Taylor Mays entered the draft in 2009, he likely would have been a top 10 pick. His decision to remain at USC for his senior season likely cost him millions in NFL dollars. Scouts have questioned his play-making ability, and his propensity to always go for the knock-out hit, instead of just making plays. All this aside, Mays is still first round talent, and could be paired opposite LaRon Landry to make for a much improved Redskins secondary. He also may come in with a chip on his shoulder, and something to prove, since he was bypassed in the first round.
If a trades involving players such as Haynesworth, Campbell and McIntosh can be worked out, and we can stock pile some extra picks in the draft, we may have enough ammo to get back into the second round to select one of these players.
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Good go no.
He’s Landry 2.0
All this aside, Mays is still first round talent, and could be paired opposite LaRon Landry to make for a much improved Redskins secondary.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Agreed.
Say no to Mays. I would agree on trying to get Charlie Brown, though.
by killianskid34 on Apr 23, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Absoloutly
Charlie Bron is perfect for our scheme and is a first round talent. We could go from the third worst O-line to one of the best.
The Shanahan era is going to bring the Redskins back to Glory! Great QB and an actual O-line.
by Horcasitas4 on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You forgot about Ben Tate
RB 5’11" 218 Clemson
If Tate falls to the late 2nd round, the Redskins have got to find a way. He’s such a perfect fit and such a good value.
we shouldn't give up multiple picks to get a RB
not this year anyway
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Yeah
RB should be the last piece of the puzzle drafted. I’d rather wait for next year.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 23, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Tate a lot
but I see him as more of a 3rd/4th rd guy. Definitly not a guy I would move into the 2nd for.
I agree with Kindle or Brown.
Not Mays.
I’d be okay with Clausen too, to study under McNabb for two years.
I'd love
to get Charlie Brown, but I don’t think it’s feasible. Nobody is gonna give us a high 2nd rounder, unless we start trading next years picks. And I’m tired of having the least amount of picks in every draft. Just once I’d like to go into a draft with 13 or 14 picks. OK, maybe more than once.
Yeah we're pretty much going to have to sit on our hands tonight
and watch other teams have all the fun. Its like we’re in time-out for having Vinny as a GM for all this time.
Totally down for Brown
Or one of the other tackles mentioned, or Kindle. What about Terrence Cody? We could snag the possible long term answer for that all-important NT spot.
I’m just wondering how exactly we’re planning on getting into the 2nd. JC’s not doing it. Rocky’s not. Andre’s not. Haynesworth is pretty much the only way in, and I’m still not sure we’d be getting enough value in that scenario.
It’s hard to say, since there are a lot of attractive prospects still available, but I don’t think we’re gonna be in round two.
I just really hope we don't trade any (more) of next year's picks
this is what I find myself wishing for every year.
JC: cost two picks
Cooley: cost two picks
Rocky: cost two picks
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Actually just looked it up
JC cost three picks: a 1st, 3rd and 4th
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I think the Cooley trade was worth it.
The others were pretty bad. I feel like the old regime had a habit of zeroing in on one guy and then selling the farm to get him. I think the new front office will be much smarter about keeping their options open and waiting to see what comes to them.
That's the problem with trading up
It works sometimes, but when it doesn’t, you’ve burned twice the draft picks.
It’s a bad way to do things on such a regular basis.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Part of the reason we gave multiple picks for those guys
Was we were trading picks for vets depriving us of the picks we needed to draft the guys we zeroed in on. If we had a third that year we could have just taken Cooley instead of trading a second for him. Those trades for vets snowballed.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 23, 2010 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Definitely snowballed
Same for the extra picks we gave up to get Rocky
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
i agree with the talent/names mentioned as perfect fits or the skins… and I think we all agree on what we have to offer (AH, JC, Rocky)… but the problem is, can we find a dance partner? The trend seems to be, if a team trades down they want more picks ‘cause this years draft is so deep. We don’t have picks to offer and the teams that do don’t have holes where we’re offering, so who wants to talk to us?
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Good suggestions
anyone have any idea on who we can offload for picks at this point? Other than Haynesworth I’m trying to think of who else we could get a 2nd rounder for. And despite the drama I think dealing Haynesworth for a 2nd rounder might be giving him up for too little.
we have no one, Vinny has drained all of our resources,
we’re just going to have to suck it up and try to make good FA decisions for another year or two.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Only one of whom has decent trade value.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Plus I kinda hope Landry moves to OLB
But I wouldn’t mind getting rid of Doughty for a late rounder. No way Landry should play FS again.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 23, 2010 12:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's an interesting idea.
He’d be a crazy matchup as a pass rusher, but I think he’d get way too caught up in the wash in run support.
I still think he can be a really good SS. He’s always been very good at being around the ball when he uses his instincts to roam. At SS, he can do more of that without blowing so many coverage assignments, as he was apt to do at FS. He just strikes me as a guy who’s really good when he’s attacking, but who sucks when he’s forced to sit back, read, and react.
Apparently Landry bulked up
I think he can handle the run support and would be good in coverage and at blitzing as a OLB IMO.
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 23, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought about Landry,
but Taylor Mays is still on the board, I don’t see how we get a 2nd pick without mortgaging the franchise ….again
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 23, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Browns and Bills are both trying to move up to land a quarterback. If one of them misses out JC’s value will be at an all time high.
by oklahomaskins on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There's just not much of a market for JC
He hasn’t achieved much. He’s inconsistent. And teams know we want to move him.
He will never fetch more than a 4th.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Recent high maybe...
JC’s value will be at an all time high.
Of course JC’s all time high was when we drafted him and it’s been going down ever since. That said his recent value will be at a high for whoever misses on drafting an NFL-ready QB (or who won’t be content with ‘rebuilding’). Unfortunately, that likely won’t be known until after tonight, so there’s no chance of getting a 2nd rounder for him alone. (The Raiders pick 7th, tonight, but it’s not likely they’re crying that a ‘moral’ guy like Tebow was picked already….)
What about Colt McCoy
Why not consider Colt McCoy in the second? I wouldn’t mind C.Brown though. I think Kindle would be a luxury at this point even though i like him
None of these guys are worth giving up two (or more) picks
We need to keep the picks we still have in 2011.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
No to trading our picks, but what about trading Haynesworth?
I’ve never been good at estimating draft pick values, but if we could get 2 2nd rounders for Albert, would you guys pull the trigger?
Or perhaps package Campbell + Haynesworth to Minnesota for #34 (2nd), #62 (2nd), and #100 (4th)? This would give us at least one of Kindle, Cody, or another high OT (Brown, Campbell), and would give us another 2nd rounder to pick up perhaps a RB or fill the spot we didn’t get at the #34, and would give us the #100 to do as we pleased.
I’d definitely consider it if we could pick up Terrence Cody along with Brown or Kindle. Think the Vikings would bite?
I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I don’t think that is near what Haynesworth is actually worth, but I want him off of this team. He doesn’t want to perform for us so we should accept what we can get for him.
This series is taking years off of my life.
by Knubles and Bits on Apr 23, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd do it
but here’s the issue. It all depends on what Shanahan is trying to do here. If we’re really talking about building for the future then its great. However, the acquisition of McNabb seems to imply that they are looking to win fast. Haynesworth is beat up but still a dominant player. If the goal is to win fast I think it’d be pretty hard to justify parting with him unless they really think he isn’t going to cut it.
by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd do it, but we'll NEVER get offered two 2nds for Haynesworth
never.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
They don't really need a DT, right?
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
One of the Williams is retiring I think.
I highly doubt they would give up the #2 pickin the second round. I think they will get multiple picks from someone who wants those QB’s
by BayAreaBullet on Apr 23, 2010 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Add Colt McCoy to that list
Yeah it would suck to piss McNabb off the way the Eagles did a few years ago with Kolb, but we need the next QB for this team sooner rather than later. McNabb’s injury history kind of dictates that. I would not be mad at all if we traded something of relatively equal value for a chance to draft McCoy.
and dont kid yourself…mcnabb would have been available after the draft for the same 2nd round pick in 2011
by les boulez bomber on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
about brown ..
i agrre he and williams can be both franchise tackles but i like that bruce campbell i think he is just as good and the niners got a steal with anthony davis ..
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