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Redskins Draft 2010: Outrageously less-than-bold predictions

Trent Williams blocking for Sam Bradford -- Photo Courtesy of Reuters: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fgfforaVf1is/610x.jpg

It feels like Christmas Eve a little, doesn't it? The day before draft day; the day before the Redskins have another young, elite player on their team. 

So far, the Redskins pick at #4 overall (my guess for that pick is that large gentleman on the right), again at #5 in round four ( #103 overall), #32 in the fifth round (thanks to the Adam Carriker trade, that one is #163), and #1 in the seventh round (thanks again to St. Louis... that one is #208 overall). 

We all have our ideas about what's going to happen tomorrow, but I thought I'd share mine so that I could look back in a few weeks and see what an idiot I was. 

A few weeks back, I wrote my first estimate of how I thought the Redskins draft would shake up. Much has changed. The Redskins now have 300 more defensive linemen, a legitimate quarterback and have discussed trading at least three key players from last season. 

So, let's make some predictions, shall we? I'll make 5 below.

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1) The first pick for the Redskins will be Trent Williams.

We've all heard the reviews of Russell Okung. I agree that he is a great player, but Trent Williams seems to me to be a better fit for the offense. Williams is probably the best run blocker in the draft, says ESPN Insider (I'd link you to it, but I'm sure few are Insiders.) He's a better athlete than Okung, and apparently Shanahan prefers him because of his fit in the zone blocking scheme the Redskins will likely employ. He's tough as nails and, according to Todd McShay (also on Insider), he has the most skills out of any tackle in the draft. The knock on Williams is his work ethic. Not a great thing to be downgraded on, but I assume that Shanahan will investigate Williams's supposed attitude problem and see if he's the right fit. Okung is apparently safer, and more game-ready right now. But Williams has more upside, and I think Shanahan will make the call to go for the most talented tackle in the draft.

2) The Redskins will trade Jason Campbell on the second day of the draft.

Jason Campbell's value will never be higher than after the first round of the draft tomorrow. Someone will miss out on all the quarterbacks and will say to themselves, "Well, we could draft someone in the later rounds that is likely not game-ready, or we could use a pick on a starter who has had some success in this league." Think about teams that would be happy with Campbell on their roster as of right now: Oakland, Buffalo, Cleveland, St. Louis, San Francisco, Seattle, (Pittsburgh? Jacksonville?). One of those teams (or maybe even someone else) will be more than happy to part with a 3rd or 4th round pick for a starter who has shown competency in the NFL, especially given he only has a one-year contract to deal with. My guess is he is moved to Cleveland, who won't take Clausen and will not want to trade back up in the draft to get Colt McCoy.

3) The Redskins will not trade Albert Haynesworth. 

Why would they at this point? Look, the man is one of the best in the business. He's 28. We paid him $50 million. What would you possibly consider a fair value in trading him? Well, he's a first round talent with a ridiculously small contract at this point (considering we paid him almost all of it in guarantees), but a work ethic and history of "injuries" that will make other squads shy away from giving up anything more than a second- or third-rounder at best. That is not acceptable value. One last point about Haynesworth: sure, he is a malcontent. But so was/is Terrell Owens, Chad Ochocinco, etc. These players perform when the team is WINNING. Last year, we did very little of that. I believe that Albert Haynesworth will not sit out or take plays off when the team is winning. And I think the Redskins will be doing a lot more of that this season. 

4) The Redskins will draft a running back.

Clinton Portis, Willie Parker, Larry Johnson and Ryan Torian be damned. Mike Shanahan has his eyes on some running back in this draft, and my guess it's a guy none of us have heard of. Shanahan's success with running backs has been well-documented for over a decade. He does not need CJ Spiller to have a successful running attack, so I think he will find his guy later in the draft and one of those old vets will not make the cut when all is said and done. My guess is the running back is the pick in round 5. 

5) The Redskins will not take a quarterback in this draft.

The Redskins only have four picks to work with and will likely use two on offensive linemen given the unit's struggles last year-- one at the top and another at the back end of the draft. Another, as I predicted, will be on a running back. Assuming they make those moves, let's look at the rest of the roster. The good news: they are loaded with talent and personnel at defensive line and will soon hopefully be loaded at offensive line. They are unquestionably stacked at TE (Cooley, Davis, Yoder), deep at CB (Rogers, Hall, Buchanon, Barnes, Tryon) decent enough at safety (Horton, Landry, Doughty, Moore), strong at FB (Sellers and presumably Yoder/Cooley if need be). Now the negatives: they have questionable depth at WR (Only four guys, three of whom have never had a full, good season), linebacker (Rak, Carter, McIntosh, Fletcher are the starters, then Blades... then who? Henson?), and possibly at quarterback (McNabb, Grossman and... ????). 

Unless someone with true starter potential is still around later in the draft, Shanahan will want to improve at a position where the player may actually see the field. Even though we drafted a whole mess of WR's a few years ago, I would not mind snagging a WR in the 4th round that will push to be the #4 receiver right from the get-go. Also, if the team does not feel confident with the depth of our LB corps, I would hope that could get addressed in this draft as well. A WR or LB could make a significant impact on special teams, if not on offense or defense, right away, in 2010. The chances a 4th or 5th round quarterback actually makes it to the starting level are so small. And if McNabb doesn't pan out, wouldn't you feel better drafting a QB at the top of the draft in the future than a guy who is likely bound to be a journeyman for his entire career? I sincerely hope the Redskins use this pick for a contributer this season, not for a QB who may never see the field down the line.

These are my not-very-bold predictions. We'll soon see if I was right about any of them. In the meantime, enjoy the draft and let me have it in the comments section!

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I predict they will target a LB somewhere in this draft

If they grab a pick from trading someone, LB and RB should be their 2nd and 3rd picks, not in that order, just based on who’s available.

Also, I wouldn’t be suprised to see him grab a project QB in the 6th or 7th. If not I would look to see him get a QB who went undrafted, this seems very likely given his history with QB’s.

by skinsymets on Apr 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

All 4 Picks

Should Be Offensive Linemen

by worldwidewes on Apr 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree except we need a RB that can run under a 4.7

Trent Williams is faster than LJ and Fast Willie

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring back

Quinton Gainther… at least the guy gave maximum effort. Too bad he signed with Seattle.

by worldwidewes on Apr 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

why use late round picks on 3rd tier O-lineman when you can easily find those kind of players in FA? Thats basically saying lets draft an inexperienced Stephon Heyer or D’Anthony Batiste. If we get a 2nd or 3rd rounded we should get OL, but not otherwise. There are a lot of holes on this team.

by Boo. on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

The late rounds are great places to find G,C,RT. Shanny is known for that. Batiste and heyer were undrafted.

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 22, 2010 12:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

did you really want to use that as an argument?
Batiste and heyer were undrafted.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 22, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

? You talking to me?

My point was that saying drafting a O-linemen late is in no way “basically saying lets draft an inexperienced Stephon Heyer or D’Anthony Batiste”. That was a ridiculous statement. Maybe if we are talking about LT but the other positions that is not the case. Shanny is known for turning up O-linemen in the later rounds.

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 22, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

my bad, reading comprehension fail

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Apr 22, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trent Williams a good Run blocker?

Could you post that link? I’m not arguing just curious cuz I posted a fanshot a couple weeks ago reprinting an Insider article of Williams. That article had some pretty damning numbers on Williams run blocking ability. Not that 2 dudes on ESPN can’t have wildly divergent views but was just kinda curious to read the other article. Thanks.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/4/8/1411453/espn-insider-breakdown-of-trent

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 21, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Insider

Run Blocking 1 (meaning "Exceptional) Angles are a bit inconsistent. Adequate-to-good initial quickness. Shows the foot quickness to establish great positioning as a run blocker as long as his first step and angle are proper. Initial pop is good but not elite. He’s strong enough to drive smaller defenders off the line of scrimmage. Works hard to finish and isn’t satisfied until he has planted his assigned defender in the turf.

by mmford10 on Apr 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shanahan=Zone blocking

Zone blocking = Bryan Baluga

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean Bulaga

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bulaga is the furthest thing from an athlete.

Which is what a zone-blocking scheme needs.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are obviously a professional scout

maybe even a former athlete yourself. You certainly have a keen eye for talent and athleticism.

by CarverM on Apr 21, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Athletic?

Yes, the way he pistol-whipped fellow first-round “athlete” Derrick Morgan should be evidence enough.

You got no fear of the underdog; That's why you will not survive!

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Apr 22, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I would not be pushing Bulaga,

his school, Iowa, uses zone-blocking extensively. Furthermore, Bulaga was recognized as the Big Ten’s best offensive linemen.
That appraisal was after 4 seasons of observation. This doesn’t need further explanation.

by Jefferson1935 on Apr 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

trent Williams

An analysis on Yahoo was generally favorable, but said that he could be beaten on the inside in pass blocking. Very athletic guy.

by Donnio1234 on Apr 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

stacked at TE (Cooley, Davis, Yoder)

The Skins have Ryan and Vickers on the roster at TE. Yoder is a UFA but not on the roster.
Neither of the new TE is as good of a blocker as Yoder. Three other UFA TEs have better records than Ryan and Vickers.
It looks like the Skins have 2 viable TEs.

Todd YoderDOB: 1978-03-18 College: Vanderbilt Height: 6’04" Weight: 255 OVR 101
Darnell Dinkins DOB: 1977-01-20 College: Pittsburgh Height: 6’02" Weight: 255 OVR 99 RB 101
Casey Fitzsimmons DOB: 1980-10-10 College: Carroll (Mont.) Height: 6’03" Weight: 258 OVR 101 RB 102
L.J. Smith DOB: 1980-05-13 College: Rutgers Height: 6’03" Weight: 258 OVR 100 RB 101

Lee Vickers DOB: 1981-03-13 College: North Alabama Height: 6’06" Weight: 270 last games 2007
Sean Ryan DOB: 1980-03-27 College: Boston College Height: 6’04" Weight: 257 OVR 80 RB 93

by Jefferson1935 on Apr 21, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That argument doesn't work

Branden Albert was selected as a guard at the time of his draft, I believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branden_Albert

And that analysis ignores upside, as most analysts argue Williams has more untapped potential.

That said, if we end up with Okung, I’ll stand firmly behind it.

by mmford10 on Apr 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was the idea actually.

More athletic guys usually play the tackle position so people assumed Albert could make the transition. Albert had more “potential” than Clady, just like many people believe Williams has more potential than Okung.

by hibachi on Apr 21, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert was drafted to be a LT.

If they had projected him as a G he wouldn’t have been drafted so high. They immeditely plugged him in at LT.

by BayAreaBullet on Apr 22, 2010 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the point is that Okung is safer. Given that we have only four picks and absolutely have to get the first one right, Okung is safer.

by hsoup on Apr 21, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's also possible..

Shanny is hyping up Trent to make the Lions second guess taking Okung and just go with Suh

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's where I sound like......

A real cool aid drinking homer….I like everything that was mentioned in this post (with some exception to drafting an RB). Fat Albert will have no choice but to perform. Not because he bleeds burgundy and gold, but because he is a friggin athlete who lives to perform at the top level. He can be an asset, not an ass. I also agree with skinsymets on drafting an LB, though it’s not apparent to all that this is a need, but based on the realization that we are switching to a 3-4 means that a different skill set may be necessary for the scheme, and while vets can adapt, a rookie with experience in the scheme can be a real asset. With that being said,

DRAFT A DAMNED OL WITH THE FIRST PICK FOR GOD"S SAKE!!!!! (Okung had better be it bitches!)

by gopens44 on Apr 21, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

My draft picks position-wise...

1) LT
4) LB
5) FS
7) WR

UDFA – RB, RB, WR, LB, LB

In a world where the stars align right for a 3 team trade involving Cleveland, I’d love for us to get decent LT or RT via trade for a combination of JC, Horton/Doughty, Carter, and #4 overall pick, trade that down to their #7 (hopefully to snag Berry) and a high 2nd rounder to pick up an RT. Oh, and a pony.

by KenPat on Apr 21, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

the skins should draft micah johnson in the 7th round

As a kentucky football fan, I can tell you he is better than Wesley Woodyard, another undrafted kentucky linebacker who put in good minutes for shanahan at denver his rookie season and even started a few games because of injuries.

He is one of the most underrated linebackers in the draft, and did great for 4 years in the SEC.

by idigl7220 on Apr 21, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Draft Day for Redskins bores me

because we never have any picks. This year is even worse than usual. I hope we can somehow trade off some weight for a few more.

by SkinsOsTerps on Apr 21, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

and we're already -1 for next year

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 21, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Redskins will NOT pass on Okung. This is all just a pre draft smoke screen I believe. First of all Trent Williams is a RIGHT TACKLE, not a left tackle. When he played left tackle last year he sucked. The pick will be Okung. Period. Also you say we will get a 3-4 th round pick for Campbell?? No way that happens. I see the Redskins only being offered a 5th at best for him (same as Patrick Ramsey). If this is the case, he will NOT be traded because he would be more valuable to the team as a back up than a 6th round pick that most likely wont make the team. Also I believe you are wrong about Albert. I think he is as good as gone.

by ImFROMdc88 on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Really good post.

I agree with it all. Not sure about the Williams over Okung pick, but I’m with whoever Shanahan picks, he knows linemen.

by SSBlitz on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Im going to take a shot of liquor … here is to getting a 3rd for CAMBELL

by eltacoman on Apr 21, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we have some speed in the secondary...

Just wondering with all the beef on the defense if someone gets loose we better have some speed in the secondary. Chasing down opponets RBs might be hell. But back to the draft I hope its Okung it should be an every year thing to draft a top O-LINEMAN till we get a good young crop.

by mybluebone on Apr 22, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

all good points blue

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Apr 22, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

we will be busy on all 3 days of draft with trades, we will pickup several draft picks,and yes 1 will be a QB

Their is a QB in the draft that Shanahan wants,so don’t be surprised if we draft 1.Shanahan needs and wants to groom a QB for the future to take over for McNabb, in case of injury and McNabb will only be here for 2-3 more years.Shanahan knows who he wants at QB in the draft,and they will pull of several trades to get 1,plus we still have several holes to fill on the roster.

by ghost rider on Apr 22, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

unicorns for everyone!

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Apr 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha!

I’ll take mine with a magic lamp, thank you.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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