Redskins Cut Ten; Status Quo Still Unacceptable
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 9:29 PM EST
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Bruce Allen on January 4th: "The status quo is unacceptable."
Welcome to DC, Bruce Allen and Coach Shanahan. You can't fix a screw up THIS BIG with just 10 cuts, but you're on your way. I wonder if Mike Shanahan has a voodoo Vinny Cerrato doll on his desk yet? I can totally envision the Shanahans screaming Cerrato's name as they watched game film of the OL this year. Actually, they had to be bent over laughing by week 4.
It's clear the status quo is still unacceptable as players continue to broadcast on 106.7 THE FAN everything they feel entitled to. Currently, the Redskins have no backup QB and 2 starting OL (Rabach just signed)...so...good luck with that. Bruce Allen said in his presser that the Redskins do have a plan in place and that no max dollar limit was put on him by Dan Snyder. The ten cuts from today saved over $13 million in salary cap, so it appears this Titanic is finally floating to the top.
We all knew changes were coming and boy, did they. A lot of these guys were "pillars" in the locker room but that's all the more reason they need to go. We need a clean slate across the board in leadership (save London). Obviously, the coaches had no authority and the team captains were unable to enforce anything either.
- Antwaan Randle El
- Ladell Betts,
- Fred Smoot,
- Cornelius Griffin (captain),
- Rock Cartwright (captain),
- Randy Thomas,
- Todd Collins,
- Eddie Williams,
- JD Skolnitsky,
- Marcus Mason
It's really hard for me to argue any of these cuts. Rock is a solid ST player, but the truth is he takes a RB spot and given his age, makes him expendable. Obviously, the Skins will make a run for a RB in free agency, and I think will definitely draft one. Cornelius Griffin has always been a solid player, but the fact he is now considering retirement paints a clearer picture on his health. The rest are past their prime or lucky to be on a NFL roster.
Quotes of Redskins players on being cut after the jump
"I am shocked... I had no indication.....We needed our offensive line to be patched up, and we didn't get that."
Ladell Betts:
"Some of the best fans in the world. These fans are crazy about Redskins football."
(On Portis) "He does some things and said some things that I would not do.
Cornelius Griffin:
"I'm at peace with it. I'm not down or bitter. I played hard. I did what they asked me to do."
Rock Cartwright [loads of quotes at Bog]::
"They never really took care of you. There were days when the only people practicing were Betts & I cause CP didn't want to practice...By him not practicing, that put more load on us....I think that kind of takes a toll on your body
"What people don't realize is the Redskins like to sell jerseys."
Randy Thomas:
"I was a little surprised....just the timing of it" (Randy was at Redskins Park for Chris Samuels retirement, but they called Randy at home afterwards to tell him)
Marcus Mason:
"It's cool though, I am used to it."
Steinberg handled the pain-staking fun job of transcribing all of Carlos Rogers' comments on Lavar Arrington's & Chad Dukes on 106.7:
"If I had to go somewhere...Carolina is close to my home, Atlanta is my home."
"We know our need in the draft. O-line @ D-line. That's our problem every year."
"I want a fresh start. I want to play somewhere else."
Eeesh. I totally envision Shanahan driving home from Redskins Park today listening to the radio and with one hand reaching for his Cerrato voodoo doll.
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I'm still having a hard time figuring out Rock and Griffin
Although I do get understand. IMO Rock has so much value. He serves as an emergency for RB, can still return kicks, although his breakaway speed has slipped and can still be a great all around special teamer. I think his salary was like 1.2 million or something like that.
If you watch Griffin on tape last year you’ll see he served a very important role on the DL rotation. I know we most likely will be switching to a 3-4 base but his salary was very similair to Rocks if I’m not mistaken. He could have definitely taken up that all important NT spot in a nice rotation. When your paying 1 guy on the DL the richest contract in defensive history, you have to find a way to offset it. Keeping Griffin 1 more year would have been a great way to do it. Again, the value these two guys bring will be hard to replace, especially when your releasing 10 guys at once. This makes me think the transition is going to be a little more harsh than I thought.
Not having a LT, RT, RG or RB concerns me more than anything.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Not having a LT, RT, RG or RB concerns scares me more than anything.
Fixed that for ya
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Not having a LT, RT, RG or RB concerns scares me Jason Campbell more than anything.
Fixed that for ya
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
J.Campbell wont have to worry soon,because he will be gone,for a 2nd round pick
wasted 5yrs.on him,and a 1st round pick.O-LINE is going to be taken care of in FREE AGENCY,and in the draft.
yea, this is the most likely scenario imo
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 6, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
if the football gods love us
some sucker will bite on that tender
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
that could work
he could sign all Heyer and his other losers, on one last vain attempt to prove he was right
Unfortunately of course, no NFL owner other than Snyder would give Vinny even a junior Scouting role, never mind GM, so we wont get that Free Pass
Pommylee
I agree
and of the 10 guys cut only 1 was from the O line. Where are these guys coming from? This might be the best FA year we ever saw.
sorry, failed to see you mention it appears we want to dump our QB and completely revamp our defense too
if this is a salary dump, i am surprised portis is still on the roster. maybe they think they can trade him?
by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 4:47 AM EST up reply actions
Carlos Rogers
Why is Carlos so bitter? They’re trying to keep him, and paying him a lot of money. And if he is as hot a property as he thinks, somebody will take him and pay him even more money. And if they don’t, well, he can suffer here for $2 million. Tough! Same with Rocky. I wonder though, will being so unhappy effect their play? If that’s a danger, they should flat trade him.
Wow 2 million for 1 year
What a tough life he must have.
Plus there has been a lot of talk of FA and RFA Corners
after the top 2 Draft prospects at corner ran super slow 40 times at the combine
And in all them articles you never see Carlos’s name mentioned as elite, or even very good, he is just listed as one fo the others potentially available
Pommylee
because he's
a bitch. He’s whining about the way he got treated last year by Zorn and co. Well, guess what dumbass? YOU WON!! You outlasted all of them. You’re still here, and they’re all gone. Shit the eff up and catch a damn ball.
Speaking of, if he COULD catch the ball, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But he played himself into this situation, so he need sto stop crying and deal with it. he thinks he’s “undervalued”? We’ll see. Let’s see how many teams are willing to give up a draft pick to sign his whinin’ ass. Forget a 1st rounder, nobody’s gonna give that up for him. But I’d take a 3rd rounder for him. Let him cry in someone else’s soup. Or maybe he should just be a co-host on The View. What an effin ninny.
me myself
i think if he doesnt want to be here then they should kick his sorry ass outa here
'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White
If Vinny had built depth at CB then we could...
Carlos said he was excited to play under a non-f*cked up system now…so…
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
was this before
or after he began talking out his ass on the radio?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
before...touchee
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah he’s getting out of line now. Kinda making me mad, what does he have to bitch about his contract and where he is coming off the season he just had. The way he played was just disrespectful to have to watch. I hope he can turn things around and get his head on right though.
Rogers made about half as much
as Smoot. It did not make sense.
by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
thats how we do things. we draft, pay market rate first contract around. if you are not all pro, we let you leave and overpay some free agent who is comparable a lot more than we would have paid our own player. that is unless you are an all pro- we do pay our all pros and REALLY overpay for someone elses :-)
its been going on for 10 years…get used to it- lol
by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 4:53 AM EST up reply actions
What did he say?
Sorry guys I live in Chicago, so I’m out of the loop on local DC radio talk. Anything other than his quote at the bottom of the article?
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
I'm assuming everybody's gonna be here for the start of the free agency period?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
College and that effin essay can wait
It’s Redskins season so I’ll be here!
Even though it’s kinda exciting, I think I might be more nervous than anything.
ha ha
It’s Redskins season so I’ll be here!
Yep, the Ides of March are upon us, which means Redskins season is in full swing.
You have to love a winner
and this is one season we always win…sorta.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
The same radio host in Houston that predicted Haynesworth deal was done before FA
Is also stating that Julius Peppers to Redskins is a done deal.
http://twitter.com/LanceZierlein
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
He admitted he guessed on AH
So I’ll take this with a grain of salt. 2 guys on 1 team guaranteed somewhere in the area of 70 or 80 million is hard to believe. Although not impossible.
I just found 2 quotes from Peppers' agent from last year
1.) He wants to play in a 3-4
2.) He wants to stay close to CAR b/c of his family
Looking more and more like it
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Peppers is hot rumored to NYG too....speculating $100/7 years
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think asburn would be razed
if we gave out another 100m
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Man.... if this happens
ain’t sh-t changed in Asburn
Is also stating that Julius Peppers to Redskins is a done deal.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Wow...Cromartie going to the Jets...that D is sick
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
Chargers get a 3rd rd pick that could become a #2
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
power run to Cromartie's side of the field, I doubt he's started tackling
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
He tackles women just fine
7 kids with different women in 5 different states
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
i thought we
were having a problem with OVERpopulation?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
He should wear number 40
or 41 in honor of Sean Kemp.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 5, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
That is just ridiculous
they now have the best Corner tandem in the League, bar none
with one of the best 3-4 middle linebackers
If they can get Gholston to play anywhere near the level he was drafted to achieve, look out Pats, your days dominating the AFC East are over
And with a strong division for once, we will get to see how good BRady and Belichek really are (I think they are both great by the way, particuarly Belicheck, just saying it will be a good test for them getting the Jets and Dolphins twice a year)
Pommylee
That defense is scary, they released Lito though. He wasn’t playing up to par but Darrelle Revis, Antonia Cromartie, and Lito is crazy good depth at CB.
I just dont know where you throw
when you Revis Island on one side and Cromaritie on the other, you have to go to Cromartie I know, but do you really wanna be doing that, I wonder what the over/under on LB interceptions for the Jets is next year, cos I can see a lot of teams throwing in the slot
I’ll be taking the overs for sure
Pommylee
Rock and Betts and Quintin Griff gone -
think Skins will look at an RB in 1st or 2nd round or a FA ?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
apparently we have PJ Hill?
who people say is pretty good. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a mix of Draft and FA Rbs
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I forgot about Hill
Played for Wisconsin? Bruiser and where was he last year when we had to go look for Ganther?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Ganther had an inside track
because his running back coach for the Titans was the 2009 running backs coach for the Skins.
by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Do you see a similar drama
playing out with JC and Rexxy, as Shanny2 was his coach at Texas, correct?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
and the draft continues.......
This concerns me. Most of these cuts were justified with either older players or young PT deprived rookies being cut. Seeing the Ladell cut hurts me deep though, I was really looking forward to seeing him getting a shot at a starting back with the hopeful Portis departure. Now it appears that Shanahan is playing favorites and holding on to Portis (lets see how much longer we can have false hopes with him). Nearly all other cuts I can understand for a variety of reasons-atleast we dont have to worry about ARE returning punts.
-Among other things is an RB going to be a first day draft pick now depending if we keep/ try to deal Portis?
-Corner second day needs?
…….Drunk and upset in Ireland
Lol at Marcus Mason and Cartwrights comments
Betts is pretty replacable, IMO
especially by a guy like Shanahan.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
great quote
S. Jenkins seems totally menopausel to me..
LT Chad Clifton and RT Mark Tauscher will hit open market
I don’t have any desire for these guys figuring Aaron Rodgers was the most sacked QB of the year…oh, and Clifton’s knees are about as solid as Vinny’s reputation.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
Yea boo
To both of these guys. I want to say we could do better than this in FA but I’m not so sure. If we draft two OT’s with our first two picks I’m gonna mess my pants.
by redskinsfan14 on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dang...looks like Dunta Robinson going to ATL
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Reports-linking-Dunta-to-Falcons.html
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
it's before midnight...probably 10% true
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
no need to fear
Rekka’s here
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I'm guessing we'll hear something by 1230
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Heading out for the night
Here’s hoping I see good news when I come back. You guys try not to have any heart attacks. HTTR.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 12:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
don't really see why Rodgers is bitching to be honest
he got beat all the damn time last year.. not to mention when a QB would piratically gift wrap a int he would still drop it,, he should go with hall and train with green and stop bitching and learn how to play his position hell at this point i would have rather them keep smoot and ship this pompas ass out of here…
by confederate_gent on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions
Going to bed...
Dansby’s agent said he’s flying to Miami in the morning and Peppers is going to CHI…no midnight deals today.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
your a skins fan
you should know better than that. synder can’t sleep till he has signed a person
by confederate_gent on Mar 5, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
please let them both sign elsewhere.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
FIRST FREE AGENT DEAL SIGNED...
drum roll please…
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
Chris Redman to the Falcons
2 years for $5mil
Lovie Smith just landed in Charlotte to meet w/ Peppers
Dansby just said on NFL Live his agent is taking him to MIA in the morning
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Sugar just reported Jeff George just landed at Dulles
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
better be careful
this could in up in the twitter world
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
wow
I love how all these “experts” said we would be in the running for all these big name FA, but now just looks like we’re taking it easy…….for now
changing the organizations attitude
Sometimes you have to clear some people out to change the attitude in an organization. While I see some value left in many of the players cut, I can also understand why Allen might think that he needs to break some people out of their old perspectives. Clearly Allan has now put everyone on notice that there will be more accountability with the new regime and that will be a good thing in the long run.
Well.... We wanted change and here it is...
Im not upset at losing any of these guys at all… I see alot of cancer being removed from the team with these cuts.. Bad attitudes being removed will help alot with the teams motivation.
"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"
I don't see Carlos Rogers on this list
so I’m not sure where you see the bad attitudes being cut
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I think he only got a bad attitude
as their plan was unfolding. Not too late to change it, but he does have trade value, so better not to just cut him.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I'm just saying
the only one in that list that remotely came close to having an attitude was Cartwright.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think it really comes down to age, performance and the number of roster spots they will need to bring in a new crew; not to mention the bonus money. All of these guys, as much as we love them, are really on the downside of their careers. Out with the old in with the new.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
i agree
i love Cartwright and thank him for his time here, but with that being said why keep him? i mean he is old for one plus he takes up Rb spot and Thomas showed us that he can do both Kr/pr so we would be keeping some one that really couldn’t do anything for us. when we could use it for someone who could .. after all this is a business isn’t that what the players have been telling us all this time in the Union talks?
by confederate_gent on Mar 5, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Spring Housecleaning
It’s like you bought a “fixer-upper” and started the process of stripping the walls
I miss rooting for my skins!
I have been a Redskins fan since Darrell Green’s first season. I am no longer a Redskins fan because of Dan Snyder. He has ruined my beloved Skins. I am surprise the whole team hasn’t quit. Some how he needs be run out of DC so that the Skins can have a chance to be the once Power house they use to be. It makes me sick that all he cares about is the $$$$$ and I agree with Cartwright all HE cares about is selling crap…He doesnt care about his players or coaches. He changes Coaches and Quarterbacks more often than most people change their underwear……SHAME ON YOU DAN SNYDER FOR TAKING AWAY A GREAT FOOTBALL TEAM. As long as YOU ARE THE Owner you will never see that ring………….
by ExRedskins football lover on Mar 6, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions
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