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Redskins 2010 NFL Free Agency & Draft Tracker - Updated

The Redskins traded Jason Campbell to the Raiders for 2 draft picks.

 

2010 Draft Picks - Washington Redskins
Round (Pick)
Action
Player
Description
1
DRAFT
Trent Williams
  LT - Oklahoma
2
TRADE
April 4, 2010 - Trade withEagles for 2nd rd pick and conditional 2011 3rd/4th
3
SUPPL DRAFT
 July 16, 2009 - Drafted DE Jeremy Jarmon in the supplemental draft 3rd round. 
4
DRAFT
Perry Riley
 LB - LSU
5
TRADE
(traded pick to MIA for 6 and 7)

 Redskins acquire DE Adam Carriker (STL)
6
TRADE
(original pick)
July 20, 2008 - Pick traded to MIA in exchange forJason Taylor.
6
DRAFT
Terrence Austin
 WR - UCLA
7
DRAFT
Erik Cook
 C - New Mexico
7
DRAFT
Dennis Morris
 TE - LSU
7
DRAFT
Selvish Capers (6'4" - 304 lbs)
 OL - West Virginia
-
UFA
 FS - Ohio State
-
UFA
 TE - UCLA
-
UFA
 QB - Penn State
-
UFA
 RB - LSU
-
UFA
 DT - E. Arizona
-
UFA
 RB - Troy

 

Free agent additions after the jump...

Star-divide

Cuts:  Antwaan Randle El, Ladell Betts, Fred Smoot, Cornelius Griffin, Rock Cartwright, Randy Thomas, Todd Collins, Eddie Williams, JD Skolnitsky,  and Marcus Mason

2010 Free Agents Brought In
Player
Postion
Result
Artis Hicks
T/G
 3 years - $9mil
Larry Johnson
                  RB  3 years, $13 mil ($3.5 guar.)
Ma'ake Kemoeatu    
                  NT  2 years, $6.975mil
Rex Grossman    
                  QB  1-year deal
Josh Bidwell    
                  P  Unknown...
   Phillip Buchanon
                  CB 1-year, $1.5 mil ($750K guar.) 
   Donovan McNabb
                  QB Trade - 2nd round pick & cond. 2011 pick
   



2010 Redskins UFAs and RFAs
Player
Tender
Result
1st Round Pick; $3.1M
 Traded to Raiders for 2012 4th round pick.
1st Round Pick
 
2nd Round
 
                2nd Round
 
Kedric Golston
           2nd Round
 
2nd Round
Signed.
              None
 Now an UFA
            DEAL
 Signed.
Anthony Montgomery
5th round
Signed.
Will Montgomery
DEAL
 Signed offer sheet
Lorenzo Alexander
DEAL
 3-year deal (3/5/2010)

 
 
DEAL
 3-year deal for approx $3.3mil (3/4/10)
Levi Jones (UFA)
 
Hunter Smith (UFA)
 
Phillip Daniels (UFA)
DEAL
 Details not known yet (3/4/10)
Mike Williams (UFA)
DEAL
Multi-year deal 
Renaldo Wynn (UFA)
 
Todd Yoder (UFA)
 
Ethan Albright (UFA)
 


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As for my pick...

I’m sticking w/ my guns and acquiring Donte Whitner….JC to BUF.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Chan Gailey likes running QB’s, I’m still thinking they’re going to draft Tebow.
Buffalo’s secondary is they’re only strength I don’t know why they would break that up. I definitely don’t think they’d give us they’re first rounder, are you implying a straight up trade?

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait do you know something we don’t?

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sproles

5yrs $34M
16M guaranteed

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

But I really wanted the Miata, Kev

w/8-track!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Sproles was just tendered.

Gonna be in SD another year.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 4, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes sir, for the low price of a first and third (which we don’t have) we can have an expensive and occasionally deadly 3rd down back and return specialist.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But

also an 8-track. It can do everything!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Pitts, Chester

OG – Houston
3 years, 10M
2.5m guaranteed

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 4, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

YES

and Pashos, and Gandy, and any other under 30 offensive linemen are out there. Let’s load up there so that we have some flexibility in the draft.
Lets say Okung is gone by 4, so we pick someone else. Then lets say someone like Brandon Graham (just an example. He’s fresh on my mind off another post) is available in round 2. We’re screwed whether we pick him or not. Either we get him, and pass on the O-lineman, or we get the O-linemen and pass on a steal.

Regardless, I think we should draft at least 2 O-linemen. But I think we need AT LEAST 5 new bodies along the line going into next year. So forget Peppers, forget Sproles, forget Rolle, maybe grab Dansby. But stockpile as many under 30 O-linemen with half a pulse as possible. Then we can dump the deadweight we have.

by CJHutch on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with most of what you said.

1)Although, there is a 0% chance Okung will be gone. TB and Detroit themselves believe they dont need tackles.

2) Why forget Rolle? He is a good FS, which is a position we are desperate for. The only reason we shouldn’t sign him is if we are going to draft either Eric Berry or Nate Allen.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 4, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t like the move. I still have faith that Landry can pull through for us at FS

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What I mean is I don’t want Rolle, Allen, or Berry (Berry because that would mean taking him with our fourth overall).

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

well my reasoning was

1) Kyle is already familiar with him
2) then we have someone on the O-line to help break down responsibilities to the other OL players
3) he’s under 30
4) no one seems to be talking about him
5) this is Allen and Shanahan, not Vincenzo (the enabled of The Dan)

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 4, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

ACL repair and the 2010 season

It often takes 2 years to get performance up to pace. Pitts is already 30. Can the Skins wait?

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 4, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that may be true for RB's

not sure if it’s appliccable for OL’s, simply because it’s not as if lineman have to cut and change direction like backs and receivers and DB’s do. He also went down early in the season, so he should be farther along in his rehab.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 4, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Dansby

4yrs $29M

Surprised that no one has picked Peppers…maybe that is just wishful thinking on our parts….

by Hustler of Culture on Mar 4, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

My parts want no part of Peppers.

Yet, suspect the trend will continue.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Anquan Boldin

Was tendered for a third rounder, too bad we don’t have one. I would love to see him in a Redskins uniform but he wants money and has injury problems. He would also hurt the development of our young receivers too but I dont know.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

Oh and I know he’s a restricted free agent, thats not my guess ha I was just throwing that out there.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

3 years too late

he’s a talent, no doubt. But I say we stick with guys under 30. Besides, I’m still hoping anything he can do Devin can do better. Oh, except pout.

by CJHutch on Mar 4, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Best pic to start Free Agency.

I’ve gotta go Dansby. $35 mil guaranteed.

by SSBlitz on Mar 4, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

You guys see this?

http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/3/4/1356309/carlos-rogers-is-an-a

Sorry, to pimp my Fanshot, but I never get enough play with them. Also, wanna make sure i get cred for saying it first.

by CJHutch on Mar 4, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

ha Yeah I saw that earlier and was thinking about doing a fanshot too but my efforts to share articles with people go unseen as well…

It’s a depressing world in the fanshot area.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Any ideas/rumors on Yoder's fate?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

havent heard anyhing but id trade cooley and keep yoder- esp if they are going to spend the fourth pick on a qb. you just cant afford two all pro tight ends when you have no left or right tackle. those positions really need to come out of the first two rounds.

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

I could live with Yoder and Sleepy, or Yoder, Sleepy and Cooley, but I’m not happy with just Cooley and Sleepy.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He can do everything!

Surprised he wasn’t tendered for a 1st and 3rd!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yes decent hands and the best blocker of the bunch for sure

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He and Hunter the Punter were

our most consistent offensive threats.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

why trade Cooley?

there’s no cap after all.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Mar 5, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Give me Sproles

30M guaranteed

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Rekka

All in on the Sproles wagon? Hmmmm…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all

I just want that T-Shirt :)

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade you a T for the Miata...

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

no way dude

get your own!

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

But I already have the 8-track!!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Quinn Ojinnaka (RFA), G/OT, Falcons. Age: 26.
Tendered by Falcons (5th round)

Quinn Ojinnaka is available for a fifth-round pick. He has starting experience and can play multiple positions. Teams in search of quality depth up front should consider giving up their fifth-round pick for the versatile Ojinnaka.

He sucks so we will sign him for 1.8mm per season, draft a tackle in the second round and say the line is fixed

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

Aren't Falcons rebuilding their OLine?

Looks like they are trying to get something for nothing.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Even the jaded cynic ScottE
He sucks so we will sign him for 1.8mm per season, draft a tackle in the second round and say the line is fixed

does not think Shanny & Co will pass up any opportunity to make major OLine strides – at least 5 new linemen in camp via UFA, FA, and draft. Maybe a few off the street, too.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

hope to god

it’s more draft than anything else

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

but at times one needs to throw as many bodies at the problem as possible and let god the Shannys sort it out later. Either way, it is at least a 2 draft problem to kill and, hopefully, an every year occurrence thereafter – not a problem, but a focus of attention.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well, i def hope you are right. i have yet to see it but will happliy give props. but i dont think u can get a real franchise left or right tackle after the second round. i am sure it is possible, but why should i give the benefit of the doubt after all i have been through- lol

i will say this- how they tendered people leads me to believe they want at least another first or second round pick. so i am thinking they want to get the qb#4 and two tackles with the other first/second rounders. after qb and O linemen, i think the only other possible consideration would be a NT.

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see that scenario playing out.

Not particularly thrilled with it, but then again, I won’t lose my job if it doesn’t pan out.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate to see ticket prices in a couple years. i think people kid themself when they say its dannys money. ultimately, it is always the fans money. maybe he can dome off the stadium and put seats on a glass floor overlooking play. otherwise, start saving boyz…these constant mistakes are gonna cost us :(

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Bring on the $18 cheap domestics!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Not the first time

we’ve heard Big Brother-speak out of this organization.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ojinnaka

has been improving in pass protection blocking, but still has not rated that well in run blocking and penalties. http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&surn=O&playerid=3084&group=1. What else can the Skins get with a 5th round pick?
Probably someone better than Quinn.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 4, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Casey Wiegmann for $2M guaranteed, about 15 minutes after Casey Rabach gets big bucks to move somewhere else

by Tromni on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

god i hope not- hes 37 already

by les boulez bomber on Mar 4, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Julius Peppers 32 Million G

Ok I know i don’t get a second pick so I’ll just throw this out their because I think Sproles maybe here instead. 15 Million G.

by skinsymets on Mar 4, 2010 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Thomas Jones

7 mil guaranteed.
Long shot.

by DoWork on Mar 4, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone else get the feeling that tomorrow is Christmas!?

I don’t know how I’m going to sleep tonight I’m so giddy…:)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Christmas?

That’s one way to think about it….

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

for the past 3-4 seasons FA has brought me dread, hoping Dan Snyder the GM/president doesn’t sign a bunch of $30M players.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 4, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m right there with you..

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

free agency is less important with every passing year

Dan Snyder’s going to have to come up with a new mgmt plan.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

But he's like 6' 5" and 320 lbs

Seems big for a Shanny type Oline guy. Also, wasn’t the Green Bay line almost as sucky as ours last year?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

they were bad because Clifton was hurt....They picked back up when he returned

He’s kinda old and injury prone though. Might have good value as backup or stop gap though.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Stereo type of the Shanny o-line.

It may be past tense. Snyder is more willing to spend than the Denver owner. The signing of Mike Williams does not support the smaller o-line notion. Shanahan gave his reasons for signing M. Williams and it seemed to be based on MW motivation last season.
It may be too soon to tell what the blocking scheme will be.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 6, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Per RI

“… In fact, Clifton’s agent was at Redskins Park on Thursday. Jimmy Sexton also represents Samuels and attended his long-time client’s retirement news conference. Clifton is an unrestricted free agent, but reportedly already has an offer of $5 million to return to Green Bay next season. According to the Yahoo Sports report, Clifton, a 10-year veteran, is seeking a deal that would pay him $7 million a year.”

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian Westbrook is my vote

If he even counts, since he will be cut, and won’t actually be a FA.

by Spitman on Mar 4, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Well

he owes us a few wins over Philly, having killed us over the years.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely

you see a lot of guys get shifted from team to team within the NFC East a lot. Could wind up that Antonio Pierce is the first one coming to the Redskins, then.

by Spitman on Mar 4, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No his neck is worse then we think he was a staple in that giants D

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

CB Leigh Bodden $9.725 signing bonus, $27 million for 4 years.

by Knighthawk on Mar 4, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Nice pick

Sure he’s not too under the radar for Danny? A little long in the tooth, but a hometown guy, so it might work – especially if we get a number 1 for Carlos…well, that’s not going to happen.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Rex Grossman

about 5 mil guaranteed over 2 years maybe.

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

I had him as a given

so no rush to get him signed.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to pick someone...

I technically have this locked up with Kory Lichtensteiger since he was the first free agent we actually signed, but I have the feeling that its not going to count.

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No Miata for you!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Like chicken!

Congrats! Can I borrow the Miata? I have an Allman Bros 8-track tape I haven’t heard in a while.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll let you take it out on a date sometime

but it has to be in by 10:30 or you’re grounded!

by CarverM on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back to you by the end of October?

No problem!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 19, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patrick Ramsey... $12.00

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

A nickel a sack?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he have a sack left

after all of his years in Washington?

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sproles

29 mil, 15 guaranteed over 5 years

by SkinsCapsHoyasCocks on Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Ah, you undercut me, you fiend!

LOL

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolle

4 years, $26 million, $8 guaranteed.

by tmarine17 on Mar 4, 2010 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

PRIME TIME

Deion Sanders..1 year, 15M… ALL guarenteed

Gimmie my T-Shirt!

by B A on Mar 4, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Peppers

4 yrs / $60M
$30M guaranteed

by CoolProJerseys.com on Mar 4, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Peppers

4 yrs/$60 million
$22M guaranteed
Yurp, CPJ…

by wildinout on Mar 4, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

PS

That was painful to type :(

by wildinout on Mar 4, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

here we go again

why not pick up that craptastic cowboy again?

Deion Sanders $35M

by FL skins fan on Mar 4, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Dumervil

5 years, $58 million, $20 million guaranteed.

by tmarine17 on Mar 4, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

no way

I wouldn’t give up the #4 pick for Dumervil

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Karlos dansby

5 years 42 million.

17 million guaranteed

by vrt2 on Mar 4, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Whoever had Sproles is out....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/04/sproles-ready-free-agency/

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

And Dansby

Shite. Anyone have a used Miata that needs an 8-track. I can get you one on the cheapo. :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This means it's Montario Hardesty!

I’m just sayin.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you notice the picture in that article is a Redskin on the ground…

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn the bad luck

Now we have to trade them a rodgers and a mcintosh for sproles and merryman.

by RPMontana on Mar 4, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a consolation T-shirt

 for picking the first guy to be taken out of the FA pool?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Pacman

Pacman Jones
uh..what is the vet min to “make it rain”?

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 4, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

The package deal...

I think Shanny is smart enough to spread the wealth around – instead of one or two ‘major’ guys, he’ll load up with some over-valued contracts on mostly younger, but solid guys.

This will include:
- Rex Hadnot, G (28) – 1 year, $1.7M – more a stop-gap / depth
- Chad Clifton, LT (34) – 2 years, $7.3M OR his RT counterpart in Green Bay – Chad Clifton (33), 2 years, $5.2M
- Mike Brisiel, G (27) – with Shanny Jr. in Houston, on IR most of the year – 4 years, $3.2M (unless he’s an exclusive rights FA, as I’m sure Houston will give him a contract)
- Jeremy Bridges, take 2 – 2 years, $4.2M

by KenPat on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Chad Clifton

is a good pass protection blocker, but had a lot of penalties (half in one game against Detroit). He would be good for transition with a rookie at left tackle. He is visiting the Redskins on 4/5/10. He shared an agent with Samuels.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Chad used us

to get leverage with GB and that was soon finallized.

The thing is, I think Allen and Shanhan will accept interest from anyone that wants to visit, but we now have a savvy FO that means that not every move or every visit is an indication of an impending contract. They can use some moves by players against agents just as they themselves are being used. It’s no longer the requirement to be first in line with a buckt of money. Olders vets at the right price, younger vets preferred.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 6, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Artis Hicks was signed by the Skins.

He is one of the older vets, age 32, 6’4", 335 lbs. He is versatile, having played LT, RT, LG, and RG. At this point in his career, he is a backup OL. His 2009 performance while not great was better than what we had at these positions most of the season, except LG. In 2009, He played in 16 games and started 3. He has not been a regular starter since 2006 when he started 14 games.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 6, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta believe

that his versatility in being a capable “plug and play guy” all along the line was the key here. Especially considering the sieve that was the ’Skins O-Line last year.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 7, 2010 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Randle El era officially is over

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

ScottE

always said there’s a silver lining :)

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow!

Growing up we always got to open one present on Christmas Eve. The tradition continues!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you think we're gonna see with Rock and Thomas gone?

FA guard with another in the draft to see who’s gonna start?

Think Alridge may have a shot?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Alridge is 100% on this roster now and will be...already announced

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I know they signed him to as futures contract

I was just wondering if you thought he had a legitimate shot at making the 53.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

J PEP

Peppers for a cool billion… all guaranteed…. for one year

by snydersabutthole on Mar 4, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Via Rich Campbell
2010 savings on base salaries for Cartwright, Randle El, RThomas, Smoot and Betts = $10.52 million

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

One would hope that

Rocky M and Carlos will settle down and realize they don’t have it so bad.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LT anyone?

I wonder if dumping Betts means we are making a run at LT or C. Taylor. I guess Shanny could also work his late round magic. Honestly I wouldn’t mind seeing (a rejuvenated) Portis, LT, and Aldrige on 3rd down.

by ILMskin on Mar 4, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I say absolutely not regarding LT.

Why do we want two run down running backs?

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Rejuvenated

I mean’t for that to apply to Portis and LT

by ILMskin on Mar 4, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what you mean, but I still have my doubts that Portis can be rejuvenated. Don’t get me wrong I think Protis and LT have a little left in the tank but it’s too much of a risk having them as our backs.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

And for the cost

We could get 4 RBs in the draft and have a frickin relay team in the backfield.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Portis

spends his offseasons in Brazil ‘passing the baton’ as well.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

zing

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Le grande baton rouge

would not surprise me.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Really? kinda woulda expected more.

lotta guaranteed money there.

$10.52 million

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll miss Rock

Awesome Special teamer totally underrated Running Back

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

they're REALLY cleaning house this year.

I’m gonna miss smoot aka The Mouth of the South

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll miss Rock for his heart and Smoot for his pure comedy. Maybe he can get a commentator job somehwere here in DC.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Him and Randle El having they’re own show…

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE could never do a radio show

since all he does is wave his arm in the air…

by Sugar on Mar 4, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He could yell into the mike that

he’s diving under his desk in the studio, but came up a yard short. I’d believe it…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Smootism

“75% of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Smoot.”
Take care Smoot.

by RPMontana on Mar 4, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah

My favorite quote….

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Fred Smoot

Man, that’s a surprise. I’ll miss him – he’s a warrior.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 4, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

smoot was a true redskin

I know theyre going another direction but this guy played his heart out. Usually the smallest guy on the field, usually playing through some kind of injury he was on the field a lot more than he wasnt and you could tell he loved football. Peace Freddy!

by samthemantis on Mar 5, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Cornelius Griffin cut too

Randy THomas was at Redskins Park for Chris Samuels…then he got a phone call at home a few hours later. Rough.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

Those were some pretty well known names in DC area for awhile now

We can’t forget Shanny has no allegiance to these guys and no one is safe. I don’t think we can rule out a trade of Cooley or anyone.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Good News!

Glad to see this. I liked some of these guys, but it is time to rebuild.
Keep up the good work FO, stay away from pacman seriously.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 4, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

if this FO needs to be told that

then all this cleaning house mean nothing

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of these guys

I’ve really liked as Redskins, but they are truly past prime and not exactly premier players, ever. Bring in the yute.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 4, 2010 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

yep

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

All players cut are over the age of 30...

The quotes of the cut players are pretty raw…more on those soon.

Randle El: “Never saw this coming.”
Griff said he had a great 10 years and might retire.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Where are you getting all of this?

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Betts was just on 106.7 and

Cartwright is supposed to come on in a little

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He actually played it cool....

Said he was disappointed but expected it. Carlos was on earlier talking about his 1st roung tender…..he wants out of town….bad!

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna recap all these quotes tonite for a post...lot of stuff.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ARE: Never saw this coming

LOL – he never saw the punt team coming either. Just automatic fair catch signal. That will get you longevity in this league…not. What did he have a .6 yd/catch average, too. Pahleeze.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Jamal Williams just got cut

I think we make a strong play for him, no idea how much we’re gonna throw out for another DT though

by Nobetterthenbob on Mar 4, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

He was horrid last year and then hurt

I wouldn’t take him for more than the minimium

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Pashos.....

12 million guaranteed over 5

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

I may have missed it.....

been on the go quite a bit lately…..I am falling behind!

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i could be wrong myself

I’m double checking now

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be mistaken, but I think the 49ers used the tag on their NT

by ILMskin on Mar 4, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds right.....

if I ever finish my damn work….I can research some myself….haha!

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

teams do have an add'l tag this year....

I think it’s a transition tag they can also apply to one player…..don’t know the details of it though

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They franchised NT Aubrayo Franklin

there is a transition tag this year also though……but I don’t see anything showing me they used it

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody firgure out....

how much cap space has been cleared with the 6 cuts so far?

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Good....still not enough for Peppers....

he supposedly turned down 14 mil a year from Carolina already!

by shvd98z24 on Mar 4, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It's over $12 mil now

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Cap space matters alot

if you expect there to be football in 2011.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Right on Carver....

teams still need to be wise….just bc this year is uncapped….doesn’t mean next year won’t. You have to make plans as if nothing has changed unless you sign everyone to one year deals!

by shvd98z24 on Mar 6, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Snyder still has a box of Happy Gilmore checks

I know it’s a new regime but I’m guessing that Dan still has a few Happy checks laying in a corner waiting to be endorsed.

by RPMontana on Mar 4, 2010 5:41 PM EST reply actions  

we all know nothing has changed

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Dansby

17 million guarenteed.

I'm not booing Stephon Heyer, he's trying hard. I'm booing the fact that Stephon Heyer plays for us.

by Area 51 Forever on Mar 4, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Add Marcus Mason to the list of cuts

sorry CJHutch

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

aww man

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Bruce Allen speaking LIVE at 7pm....

http://redskins.com/

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

when does free agency start 12:01? does that mean peppers will be signed at 12:20

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yea, in 6 hours.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

FA start

Is it 3/5/10, 12:01 AM or 11:59 PM?

by Donnio1234 on Mar 4, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

12:01. when they can start signing players.so peppers or anyone else can be signed before 12:30 thats my prediction anyway

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

danny hasmt learned at all! high priced guys wont win a championship. if they sign peppers i think it will be a huge mistake

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

Id be shocked if they get Peppers

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

dansby, maybe. i would like to see them not sign peppers and sign dunta robinson or antrell rolle

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Dansby's plane just landed in MIA...thats a bad sign for signing w/ WAS

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

do we see maybe collins or colt gone next?

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

im surprised Todd wasnt cut

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

is there a deadline for when you have to stop cutting players before the free agency period starts

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

 If a player is cut, his salary for the remainder of his contract is neither paid nor counted against the salary cap for that team.

But after free agency, they count against the cap and thats when roster bonuses and any other incentives are due.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Just covering his tracks

The real question is where is Redskin 1?

by RPMontana on Mar 4, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to be able to track it via http://flightaware.com/

But he caught on and blocked it.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

then why didnt he do that for when the plane went to denver. i mean come on danny, you block it for free agency but not when courting your next coach

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

someone noticed the tail in Denver and then it hit twitter world

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s hilarious…

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I must say

I don’t understand Griffin and Cartwright. Other than age, these two are at a very good price in 2010 and bring good value. Both of these guys are humble and still bring alot on the field. They would have made great role models for younger guys coming in also. I’m not talking about being loyal, I’m just saying from a purely value point of view.

Everyone else I understand, their salaries exploded and may have been cut anyway.

They must be planning on brining in many more free agents that I thought. We certaintly don’t have the draft picks and not many guys if any from practice sqaud are capable IMO.

Interesting though.

by skinsymets on Mar 4, 2010 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

its all bout the age, plus danny want peppers

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the fact Griff is gonna retire speaks volumes

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well then it makes sense now they would release him due with the injury bug and all that. would he retire as a giant or a skin?

by Lancers25 on Mar 4, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Skin in my opinion

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Peppers/Orakpo/Haynesworth is unstoppable pass-rush.

I don’t care what anyone says about Peppers, he’s a beauty and a beast.

by SSBlitz on Mar 4, 2010 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

We were top 5 in sacks this past year I think.

So its not like pass rush is a priority. we should spend that money on a DB.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 4, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

this team should not be down

with paying Rolle 8M a year.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

No sir,

I cannot agree. Who’s going to be doing the covering? OLB’s don’t just rush the ball, if we put Orakpo and Peppers out there at the same time it would be bad news with quick dumpoffs.

and why does Hogs Haven tell me I’m spelling Orakpo’s name wrong?

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

nope
a beast.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

3 more cuts added to the list up top...no one major....Todd Collins the most notable.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

‘tis a shame to see Griffin Cut. Always liked him. Smoot’s mouth will hopefully stay with the team in some capacity.

by lynxtheone on Mar 4, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

i was hopin we would keep eddie williams

seemed like a viable pass catching full back, all he would need to do is get his blocking up to snuff

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

ehhh

we already got Yoder and Sellers

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Sellers cant catch or block

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He can catch

so long as Hunter is throwing

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That play defined the Redskins last season, desperate.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Sellers

It’s Sellers that should be cut. He let the team down many times, and is a divisive personality.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 4, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

mmh

I don’t see him as divisive, he’s a jokester. but I would have rather seen him cut than eddie williams. at the least we should bring in another person ina UDFA

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sellers is great.

He showed some lack of effort at times last year, but he’s still a great FB.

by SSBlitz on Mar 4, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

lack of effort is not something a football team needs

that’s how dropped balls, and tackles in the backfield happen

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think with the right motivation

Sellers should show up in much better shape and focus. You cannot replace his incredible size/speed combo easily. With motivation and focus he deserves a spot on the team.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

don't have a choice now

williams is gone

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I always wanted him to

hurdle the LB and land squarely on some poor hapless CB. Just one of those things you want to see every so often.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Todd, Colt

I hope this means Colt will get a chance to show what he can do. I was a little dismayed to hear that Shanahan had never seen him play (on tape, anyway). Todd was a good man, too, but definitely not the QB of the future.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 4, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt they keep Colt

WaPo has been reporting for weeks that if Colt hadn’t gotten injured they were gonna cut him and that the current regime respects Zorn’s decidedly negative opinion on Colt.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 4, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Colt

I missed that in the Post. But I had a strong feeling that Zorn didn’t like him (repeated condescening and negative language, which I figured was partly to justify his selection of JC as the QB before even one workout). He got rid of him (to IR) as soon as possible, too. On Sellers: replays (and pointed out by Cris Collingsworth) showed that Sellers inexcusably missed – didn’t even try – on crucial blocks for both Portis and Betts in goal line situations. Just plain wiffed. Clinton was 100% justified to complain, and Sellers laughed it off, didn’t admit it, and managed to get the press to blame CP. A shoddy performance, and he ought to be cut before he does more damage.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 4, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not 100 percentage positive but I’m pretty sure that’s not how it went down…

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Todd was no surprise

and I wish him well. Part of an era where at one time there were like 6 U-M QBs in the league. Unheard of. Especially from a school not known for its QBs traditionally.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for taking it easy on me, Carver

Do you have morning rugby practice, too? :) Seriously, no one feels my pain re: U-M football more than I.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I go to UVa

I KNOW about bad football teams.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Respectability is cyclical, generally

Fortunately or unfortunately we are not used to that. Not bragging, just the way it is.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I can understand that.

I played at a small college, and its very cyclical on the DIII level, to the tune of every 4-6 years.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait do you play rugby at UVA?

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe he is a member of a club team in Charlottesville

if I recall correctly.

Hey, Carver. Did you play rugby in all that snow? Must have been awesome!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Virginia Rugby Club actually. Nah, we couldn’t play in that crap. We’ve had to practice in a gym because our field is saturated. It sucks.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you know of Dick Voris?

He was one of my high school coaches before he coached Hartnell JC to the junior college Rose Bowl. Unfortunately his teams a UVa set the NCAA losing record during his tenure. The academic standards at UVa in those days did not help recruiting much.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah,

I’m only 24, and there have been enough recent bad teams that he isn’t talked about much. Looking him up on Wikipedia, I now understand why, 1-29 is pretty bad. Hell, that’s actually my varsity record from high school, coincidentally.

by CarverM on Mar 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

peppers

52 mil signing bonus front loaded no cap problems next year

by beef g on Mar 4, 2010 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

Dansby. $20M guaranteed.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 4, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Robinson

10 Million Guaranteed.

4 year/35 million

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 4, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

what do you think we’d give them for it? I don’t see that being possible without giving the Raiders alot. You’re talking about Nnamdi Asomugha. I have absolutely no idea how to pronounce his name

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

TIME TO BLOW YOUR MIND

Aaron Kampman, 15mil guaranteed

I think the Skins are gonna throw truck loads of money at Peppers, lose, then turn some of that money back around at Kampman, and we snag him in the end.

I actually think throwing money blindly at people will not work so quickly this year like it did with Haynesworth.

by BigOLinemen on Mar 4, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Kampman isn't good in a 3-4

thats why he wont be a packer next year

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 4, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

wasn't kampman

having problems this year in green bay with the switch to the 3-4?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I won't saying I wanted him

But he was having issues, but he should move back to DE if he does come here.

Remember, this is who we think will get signed, not who we want. I don’t really want Peppers or Kampman, especially not Kampman in a 3-4, but I see him as our first prize.

by BigOLinemen on Mar 4, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes no sense if we are transitioning to a 3-4

That’s his big issue in GB. He wants 4-3.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Ben Hamilton

$2M guaranteed

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

WHERE'S PORTIS' NAME??

I just woke up, saw this mine field. I almost blew my load when I saw Randle El, but I gritted my teeth to wait for Portis, which woulda given me ultimate release. Talk about a let down. UGH.

by CJHutch on Mar 4, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Portis is a favorite of shanahan.But let him come to camp out if shape again we will send his ass packing…

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

too much guaranteed money.

it’s not worth cutting him.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

i think you are right. in the end, i think they can trade him and throw in cash to make it palatable

by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Rabach inked to 3-year deal

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

3 years?!?

He better be riding pine after this season

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Whole deal is for $3.1...not a big deal

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

very affordable.

he’ll make a nice back up when we bring in 5 new linemen this year

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I look forward to the day when guys will take a pay cut

to stay here or come here because they want to play on a championship team.

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

I hope you're in your 20's or younger then

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

had the same thought

I’ll be sure to remember this convo for when I’m in my 50s

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got time

Rekka and I will take over here when you and Sugar are too arthritic to use your computers.

by CarverM on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Tomlinson

Tomlinson will be signed by 12:01

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

Shanahan

He loves that guy why else would you get rid of betts/cartwright

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

because he's going to get the majority of his guaranteed money anyway

so you keep him so it’s one less thing to worry about

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely i agree i think Portis will be fine. I can honestly see us gettin LT.

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

that wasn't an endorsement of CP

I was just rationalizing why he would still be here. Shanahan was the one that shipped him out in the first place after back to back 1000 yard seasons.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 4, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

who cares how "Portis will be"

the Redskins are better off dumping him while they can. He’ll be a mediocre back AT best this year, and even worse the next two or 3 years when the team is STILL on the hook for paying him. Why not cut him now, while there is no cap hit.
I say this, of course, knowing full well that they may be doing that anyway, just down the road a little. Hell, who knows, maybe they wanna make him suffer a little bit. Allen mentioned wanting to give the rest of these guys time in the market. Maybe they wanna give CP as little time as possible, since they’ll be paying him anyway.

by CJHutch on Mar 5, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Trade

So does anyone think we trade Cooley

by Skiidmarkz on Mar 4, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Peppers – $44 Million Guaranteed

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

close to a deal

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 4, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahh the legacy of the Long Red Snapper lives on, that guy is quite the character. I suggest getting an interview with him and make sure he reads his letter to Madden.

by travisjh86 on Mar 4, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bears

may save us from being the dumbest team in FA:
http://twitter.com/LanceZierlein
LZ says the bears are going hard after Peppers hard

by Draco on Mar 5, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

they may have

everybody pray to whatever you believe in

by Draco on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

good news...

Peter King is saying that the Skins and Allen aren’t looking at the overpriced big names.

Too bad for Peppers that the Skins won’t be driving up the price.

by superjuan on Mar 5, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s reassuring…

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Eagles have an offer on peppers I heard..

yea, skins dont want him

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a good day

What team is this? All I see are words like Restraint, and Patience, and Needs, and 2nd Tier, and I’m thoroughly confused.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I nearly passed out

when I saw that tweet about Allen saying don’t worry about the big name FAs last night, go after the secondary guys.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

I guess Danny’s really not in control anymore. 45 minutes and into FA and nothing

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

THIS JUST IN!!!!

The Washington Redskins just signed veteran wide receiver Ray Carruth to a long term deal. Specifics of the contract are unknown but believed to be in the $4.25 Million/year for 18 to 24 years. He will have until October 22, 2018 to prove his worth.

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

Phillip Daniels signed his offer

Longest tenured Redskin currently…Sellers is in 2nd place…Cooley is in 3rd place.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Am I the only one

that thinks it’s hilarious that the whole NFL world is wondering where the Redskins are with Danny checkbook?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

I think I’m having a harder time grasping the situation than them

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bruce Allen just commented Skins have no interest in Peppers

Never even called him.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

you shoulda gave out a warning before that one Kev

I just damn near had a heart attack,

Never even called??!?! It’s enough to make a man cry…

On the other hand, we all know that when Peppers said he was talking to us as well he was just trying to drive up the price.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan Snyder

The sportswriters gave Dan so much grief over “high priced free agents” that he may have just decided that, since he cannot buy a winner, he will just budget some amount, let his management team do the thinking, and hope for the best. After all the devastating losses, he’s just not going to go running around, obsessing about some big name player. So this may be a very quiet FA period, no big names. That’s what the wise guy critics wanted, so give it to them. We can probably eke out 4 wins with what we have and can get in the draft. Good for him!

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone check Fed Ex Field for Dan

I’m guessing Bruce gave Dan a lighter and a pile of cash and sent him to Fed Ex Field. Just light your money up in peace and let us run the football team and FA. This way everybody wins.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

lotta conjecture in there.

Snyder’s got a loooooong way to go before he gets ANY benefit of the doubt.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Gibril Wilson, FS

“… the Miami Dolphins will release FS Gibril Wilson Friday, March 5, according to his agent.”
Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0hKJ3BNZ7

Wilson’s stats for the Dophins (2009) and Giants (2007) were decent (positive) whereas they were not that good with the Raiders (2008) – http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=4&surn=W&playerid=1857

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Dan Snyder

Don’t get me wrong, he’s the boss, and nobody – but nobody – sends him anywhere. But he very possibly just found out that it is too difficult and heartbreaking to get too involved. Just stand back, let Bruce and Mike handle things, keep them if we win, bounce them if we lose. Supervise, but don’t interfere on details. On Peppers, it’s not surprising – they are concentrating on offense. I hope that means they are not planning to switch to the 3-4 anytime soon (which would demand some new players).

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Williams just signed a deal...

Good value for RG…if gets healthy can compete to start and def a capable backup.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions  

Big Mike

That is good news. I always wondered how good he was, but began hearing good things about him at RG. He could be why they let Randy T. go. If we’re decent at C and G, it leaves the two tackle slots to fill (I can’t see Heyer as anything more than a backup, and don’t know about Levi Jones at RT, except that he’s not great at LT). Grossman could be good at QB, and could possibly even beat out JC. Or maybe Colt could beat out both of them.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't think he played well at guard.

He’s very immobile, which means he can’t pull, and he’s not great in pass blocking situations.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

With thoughts like this
Or maybe Colt could beat out both of them.

I’m surprised no one has called 911. Hope everything turns out alright and you get back to reality soon. (just kidding, but…really. I hope Colt learned something at school, or he gets a break in the CFL, because I don’t see it happening here.)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Praise Vishnu

Some sense has been spoken.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats not good news, signing Mike Williams to a multi year deal is a project and means we’re desperate on the line.

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you thought we weren't desperate?

I have no problem with working him out at backup money. It’s not like we are gonna put together 8 great linemen in one year.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

he was replying to

travisj

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm confused

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Don’t mind me it’s Friday and almost happy hour.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Davis' Pub in Eastport, Annapolis

Check it out next time you are in town.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I drank in Annapolis after a rugby match once

some little Irish pub… the name of it escapes me

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If i drank in Annapolis

I’d have no way to make it back to DC

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

On tends to lose ones sense of direction

when crawling.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it in the main part of town?

Then Castle Bay or Gallway Bay.

Davis’ is across the bridge and into Eastport. A total locals hangout with good food and better prices than in the main part of town. In fact, I’m headed there now. I shall down a pint in your honor, Sir!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely not across the bridge.

It was on that main drag that runs down to the harbor. towards the land-end of it, if that makes sense. Right next to a little parking garage.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No we all know we’re desperate on the line, but I was hoping we had enough of a plan not to bring Mike Williams back. I know some people are cheering for him and I hope he proves me wrong, but he didn’t suck for no reason.

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple of things

he was always supposed to be a multi-year project who got called into action sooner than planned.

Also, you just don’t find guys his size sitting under every other tree in the forrest.

And finally, I think he’s basically a good guy who has been working really hard to be the player he was projected to be – and he was hampered by an ankle or groin injury which hurt his performance. So I think he still has upside to be a solid starter or at least solid, inexpensive backup.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Most guys his size are sitting under bridges
you just don’t find guys his size sitting under every other tree in the forest.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

PFT is reporting Skins interested in Rex Grossman

Kyle Shanahan was his coordinator last year…

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

cue ScottE

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I would hate Rex Grossman coming here, it would be hilarious to see LJP’s reaction if he did AND beat out JC for the starting spot

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

not saying thats going to happen

by travisjh86 on Mar 5, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he's definitely willing to throw the ball downfield

no matter how many people are covering the receiver.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I pretty much had this as a given

Question is: will it be a fair competition between Rexxy and JC?

Not the first time a coach leaned hard on a favorite over the more talented player. Just sayin.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i think someone scoops up jason campbell for a 2nd round pick. that is a decent deal. he doesnt throw many interceptions! coaches like that!

by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

if that happened, i could live with both second rounders being tackles for the future and them signing one of the QB at #4. though i really would like to have okung anchor us for a decade.

by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Rexxy has led a team in the Playoffs

and won a playoff game or two :)

JC has……..chirp, chirp, chirp
Got hurt and the backup led the team to the playoffs…hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

by dr WNC on Mar 5, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

if that's the criteria

why the hell isn’t mike vick in B&G?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

fine

call up Dilfer, he actually won a super bowl

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Sexy Rexy wouldn't come here.

If Kyle Shanahan wasn’t impressed with his progression in the offese he wants to implement.

by SSBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure there are worse backups in the league than Grossman

Plus having a guy who knows the system can ease the transistion for other guys on the Offense.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I've said

it’s a given. I hope it is a tough, fair competition and Rexxy becomes an excellent and never used back up because our OLine is great again and JC never gets his uni dirty.

OK – it will be good to have a competent backup either way.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I would question the wording there
Rexxy has taken a team to the Super Bowl

I’m sure they were all on the same flight, but I’d say the Defense was flying the plane, if you catch my drift. Rexxy was more the game manager than the put ’em on my shoulders type QB, IMO.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that's true!

A totally aggressive D with high sack, TOvr, and 3n-outs. Hold other teams to <17 pts/game.

A moderately lights up offense with running for good ball control and solid passing attack using 2TE and the 3Xs a game punch deep to keep opposing D honest. Avg. 27pts/game.

STs get and prevent good field position. Don’t give up HR, and occasionally spring one with our new game changer (whomever that may be)

Ta dah!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Signing Grossman would be a traveshamockery…..

by TheOverLordMarshl on Mar 5, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take Rexxy over Delhomme

speaking of recently unemployed QBs.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

defintely- delhomme is AWFUL!

by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

eh. there are worse choices for BACK UP qb

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Peppers and Chester (the Molester) Taylor are Bears

Six years, $72M, half guaranteed for Peppers accd’g to Sun-Times http://bit.ly/dnnJzv

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 5, 2010 1:43 PM EST reply actions  

holy cr-p, $35M guaranteed? Bears GM is a moron

for this and other reasons.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Vinny is in Chicago!!!

Seriously that’s ridiculous

by redskinsfan14 on Mar 5, 2010 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i would say

we need to see if they go for a malcontent CB, but they don’t have a 1st round pick.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn't we cut them some slack

and slide Carlos out to them for a 2nd and a 5th rounder?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bears

do not a 2nd round pick either. The Cutler deal put them in a bad way.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 5, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

they are fighting for their jobs

by les boulez bomber on Mar 5, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I now totally believe there are zombies

At least one named Vinnie who currently is staggering around Soldier Field writing unauthorized checks. Make my day, Vinnie!

Also cool Peppers didn’t go with Iggles. He might show up and play hard once or twice a year against us.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you guys think about making a trade for Gaither from the Ravens

he only got a first round tender and they might not wanna pay big bucks for 2 left tackles. Ravens seem open to moving him. Maybe this year’s 2nd and next years 4th? If we feel like we can put a decent team together this year maybe offer our 2011 first rounder? What do you guys think?

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Total Crap. Get off the crack and meth. We do not want to lose ANY picks.

by TheOverLordMarshl on Mar 5, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

?

He’s a really good LT. I think a second and a 4th is pretty good value for a proven top flight LT who is only 23.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

They would never take that deal

Because he’s a 23 yr old with huge upside.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

well they put only a first round tender not the first and a third

Which would indicate they are cool with him leaving for a 1st rounder. They might not want to pay him and Oher when they can take another pick and get a RT and move Oher over. On the Football today podcast they were talking about how some teams with a late first might sign him and give up the pick.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams, Brennan

Of course, Big Mike will have to compete for the job, and could easily end up a backup or gone. Did he sign for the veterans minimum? On Colt, I was kidding a little, but the fact is, Zorn did not like him and never gave him a chance, and tried to change his throwing motion. Colt showed flashes of talent in his rookie year and hardly played last year. We don’t know how good he is (as with the draft possibles). Shanahan said he had not seen Colt on tape. So I consider him an unknown quantity, and he’s still on the roster. Shanahan is supposedly not totally sold on JC, so there could be a competition. Colt would be a long shot.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

I grew up in Hawaii

so I actually have a soft spot for Colt. Agree he probably didn’t get a fair chance between Zorn and injury. Maybe we keep him as a 3rd stringer, he gets to play and shines. Long shot, but..

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the fact that he got worse from year 1 to Year 2

is pretty telling. I think he got as fair a shot as he deserved.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't just Zorn

A lot of the coaching staff was puzzled/irritated with how cocky he was considering he had done less than nothing. I think the Cult of Colt got to his head a little.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go

big medium meanie

all fixed up nice n tiddy.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Colt - cocky?

Interesting, but a little hard to believe (and one of many hit-jobs coming out of the Redskin organization). He didn’t sound cocky when I heard him. It has to be hard on him, trying to stay positive, knowing he was on the black list. As to the other coaches, remember, in most organizations, if the boss is really down on somebody, everybody else falls into line. Nobody is going to contradict the boss. Just like no government scientist is going to say he doesn’t believe in man-made global warming (the ludicrous nonsense being foisted on the American people). Bureaucrats (and I was one) will not tell the King he has no clothes. Zorn is not mean, just incompetent. He quickly decided that Colt was not a good QB, and named him as third string before the preseason started. He could be right, but Colt never had a chance – less than 4 preseason quarters, working behind our terrible third string line, and throwing to the same group of underperforming receivers JC struggled with all year. I don’t say that Colt is the best QB on the team, just that he should have a chance, or be cut (so he can possibly hook up with a team that wants him). He was very successful in college, on a par with many of the top rated QBs in this draft.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

donnio you need some help

I'm not booing Stephon Heyer, he's trying hard. I'm booing the fact that Stephon Heyer plays for us.

by Area 51 Forever on Mar 7, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

If a team wanted him that bad, they would give up a pick for him. I’m sure shannahan would take a 5th or 6th rounder for him.

by Nobetterthenbob on Mar 8, 2010 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Da Bears

They’re going to be tough this year. Cutler, Urlacher, Peppers…

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

You have a knack for making me laugh

Seriously. :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

dude either you are completely clueless or you have the best sarcasm ever

I'm not booing Stephon Heyer, he's trying hard. I'm booing the fact that Stephon Heyer plays for us.

by Area 51 Forever on Mar 7, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Da Bears

I’m from Chicago, and still have a soft spot for them. They play with fire and passion, and can be great (clobbered Minnesota when the Vikes needed the win). The defense used to be awesome. I think Lovie knows Defense but not Offense. Very dangerous team.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

It will be interesting to see what they do to

get their offense organized and in synch. It was rather interesting to see Cutler’s progress with that team – or lack thereof.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He's pretty good at that

how do these guys stay employed? Yeah, I know a Super Bowl, but still. All else is recent failure.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He kills quarterbacks too

They’re never the same after a season or 2 with him becuase of all the hits they take. There was even talk of them trading Olsen because Martz doesn’t use TE’s.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

that made me laugh out loud

seriously

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the Spurrier of the Pros

When he has a mega line and a great trio of receivers and one of the best RBs in the game, he can have success (I’m serious, that’s all he needs). Otherwise he should be locked up for assault. He gets QBs killed.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody notice we only have one running back left?

Ok – two with Alridge. What does that mean for FA and the draft? On the Bears – Johnny Knox is a comer.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 5, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

lol your the second person to say that

somebody on the practice squad that’s supposed to be good.

Donnio, I don’t think Shanny’s gonna leave this draft without a RB. I’d almost be willing to put money on it.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm not saying we count on this guy

but now that I look at it, those are our only 3 running backs. Portis, Alridge, Hill.

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Still an outside shot at Sproles

This would be more believable if today hadn’t played out like it has. I would’ve guaranteed this in years past.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we'll get Sproles.

Anthony Alridge is poor-man’s Sproles.

by SSBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He also comes with

half the hands or twice the fumbles (depending if you’re a glass half full or half empty type).

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe LJP

will sign him up for his Psych 102 – how not to fumble course. Then….
he could do it all!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hell yea!

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm likin it.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Cry-los

We gotta dump Carlos somehow. I completely see him being a whiny little B-yatch all season.

by ILMskin on Mar 5, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

Dunta Robinson to sign with the Falcons.

It might be up there somewhere else in the thread, but I don’t see it. Steve Wyche reporting that Dunta will sign with the Falcons by the end of the weekend (he’s from Georgia too).
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/05/robinson-expected-to-sign-with-falcons-by-sunday/

by SSBlitz on Mar 5, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

A remarkably calm day

in Redskins FA history considering about 400 hysterical posts to this one topic (me including). :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

I LOVE this new FO so far

who are these people and where did they bury the old front office?!?!

by CarverM on Mar 5, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think Vincenzo's

locked in Danny’s closet with a ball gag in his mouth….

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

At this time I'm going to say

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

So guys

you seem really happy that you have made the headlines for not signing anyone!

Maybe not in 2010 but in 2011 I can see the NFC East being a four horse race again.

by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

If they play

like they did at the end of the season they will be in the cellar.

Every Giants fan wants to know if the defence was bad last year because of injury, Sheridan or both.

by G Fan in England on Mar 5, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Next year (2011) will be insane

Assuming that there is a CBA signed, next year there will be 2 and a half years worth of free agents hitting the market (the half coming from all the PO’ed RFAs that got insultingly low tenders). It will be a Free Agent Bonanza. That will be scary times indeed.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Snorefest

Wow what a boring day in free agency for the washington redskins huh? I llllllooooovvvvvveeeeee iiiiitttttttt!~!!!!

I had a few benchmarks for measuring the change at redskin park after they got a real gm/coach.
1. No snyder at combine being beguiled by bradford or taken by teebo.
check
2. Trim the fat especially randle el.
check
3. Don’t make a huge splash in FA with someone like peppers.
check
Now it’ll be interesting to see who they end up picking up between now and the draft. We have a lot of holes to fill.
The draft though, that’s the real offseason test. So far so good.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 5, 2010 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Nice and I can sleep well tonight.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 5, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Blackout Drunk

does not a good night sleep make.

by RPMontana on Mar 5, 2010 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

J D Skolninsky

got cut yesterday , funny thing is i seen him in Wal – Mart the other day in Harrisonburg and almost got him to autograph my Redskins jacket , good damn thing i didnt

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Mar 5, 2010 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

rick maese tweeted something earlier from

chris russell that said the only reason he even came here was to drive up the price on GB. They were only offering 5M a year at first.

I didn’t wanna post rumors but I guess that one had some merit.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Quote
RT @Russellmania09 Source feels strongly Chad Clifton is solely visiting the #Redskins to drive up the #Packers price, no real interest.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 5, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

take this with a pinch of salt obviously

But a guy I know out here grew up with Clifton and is friends with him. He said Clifton had been talking all year about how he doesn’t think he has anything left and he might retire. We are most likely better off without him.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 5, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

St. Louis Rams restricted free-agent FS Oshiomogho Atogwe.

The Giants were considering Atogwe before they signed A. Rolle. I don’t know the tender for Atogwe. His stats did not look that bad on Pro Football Focus. On the other hand, Rolle’s stats sucked but he was a pro-bowl player and had a lot of interceptions.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 6, 2010 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Artis Hick = Good signing/solid starting RG

i only wish we had signed someone a little younger but with the stupid last year CBA rules this signing is good. Now we need to sign a starting RT and then draft Okung and find some depth and our OL should be fixed.

I'm not booing Stephon Heyer, he's trying hard. I'm booing the fact that Stephon Heyer plays for us.

by Area 51 Forever on Mar 7, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

stephen heyer for a 2nd round tender is hysterical. clearly, they do not want to lose their only backup tackle- lol

by les boulez bomber on Mar 14, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

WOO-HOO

We have Will Montgomery back. This will ensure our O-line dominance going forward.

by CJHutch on Mar 14, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed you did...shoot me an email w/ your address and I'll mail you the t-shirt

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No need to be at a loss for words.

None of these guys are big ticket players. And I trust Shanny to pick his own spots with guys with out spoken personalities. Something tells me Shanny won’t let any kind of soap opera get started in Asburn.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, it's what ended his run in Denver

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is?

Shanny’s run ended in Denver because he wasn’t a good GM in terms of putting a whole roster together.

But in this particular case, I trust him not to sign loud players that might disrupt things.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was widely reported that he lost his locker room leaders to injury and the cancers took over from within.

by les boulez bomber on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that's why he was fired?

I disagree. I think it was his sub-par performance as GM, especially with regards to the defense.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not what Karl Mecklenberg told me...

That part is true, but when 3 of his captains went down and Cutler’s ego was in full force, he lost the locker room.

I plan on touching base with him again soon.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....

I feel like we are intentionally signing mediocre players. I understand we are shying away from a “Buy the big ones!” attitude, but LJ and Grossman?

If we wanted a 30 year old back-up who hasn’t done much lately, why not keep Betts who looked good last year in his limited play time instead of getting LJ?

Maybe Grossman is the best guy out there…. Are these guys really going to make us better in the future though?? Isn’t that what rebuilding is about?

by RobtheRedskin on Mar 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of the players available in free agency would be significant in a rebuild

Rebuilding is about drafting.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rex has a year in the system

He’ll be what Collins was when he came in, a mentor, a teacher, and semi capable backup. No one you hire to be your chauffeur, but someone you allow to park the car.

by RPMontana on Mar 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like when giving Rex Grossman a deal, they were saying F you skins fans. I’ll do what I want.
Whatever though, as long as this scrub doesn’t see the field I don’t care.

by travisjh86 on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

damn forgot about him

nope i moved from occoquan forest in middle school

by skinsfan28 on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you a large Norwegian?

by travisjh86 on Mar 17, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw your rugby comment about stebbins

and I was like i know two stebbins that went to UVA then I asked krista what your middle initial was

by skinsfan28 on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha whats up man, how long have you been on here for?

by travisjh86 on Mar 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

about a year

needed something to pass the boring offseason last year

by skinsfan28 on Mar 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am just glad we finally got that first round qb everyone has been clamoring for. now hopefully, we can draft some linemen and field a football team

by les boulez bomber on Mar 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I would equate Rex Grossman to Trent Dilfer, except he lost. he’s a decent QB, but I think Campbell’s better.

Suspend Colin Campbell!

by snowburnt on Mar 18, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has flashes

I would never have him start a season, but I trust him to handle the plays that Jason is being resuscitated on the sideline, or having a lung reinflated.

by RPMontana on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

much like the situation in chicago when they made the SB, sharing time with Kyle Orton

Suspend Colin Campbell!

by snowburnt on Mar 19, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm officially starting

The We Need Vasher fan club. I’ve always liked this guy. Stand-up character player with some tread left (only 28). Could come in and be our nickel guy.

by RPMontana on Mar 17, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Joey Porter

Sure I’ll sign him as a LB’s coach or as a hotdog vendor, but his days of playing in the NFL are over!! Pass on Joey Porter!

by Kurtstack on Mar 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

this is fuckin ridiculous

are we trying to sign every cancer that hits the market?

Semin = King of Dangle Sauce

by Area 51 Forever on Mar 17, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

i am not too worried about it. none of the people they have signed to date are expected to be more than backups that provide depth. i am sure they will be thrilled if LJ competes or even beats out portis. put it this way, if these signings, incl hicks, are expected to start, then we are in for another long season!

by les boulez bomber on Mar 17, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fully expect Hicks to be a major part of our offensive line this year and starting. He’s better than anything we have right now.

by travisjh86 on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ganther

signed by Seattle. Also 4 of the cuts have been signed.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be nice info to have on the stat sheet up top, Kev

Not that I want to make you work or anything.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 19, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you click on Ganther name (red link)

you get his current status with Seattle. It just does not appear in the adjoining column.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he showed next to nothing last year.

Especially a couple really nice screen passes or two that he just didn’t turn into TDs, or close to it.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 19, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it's the fact

that I saw him break a couple of tackles. I wasn’t used to seeing that from a B&G RB in a long while.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 19, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barry Sims

San Francisco 49ers veteran free agent offensive tackle Barry Sims completed his visit with the Washington Redskins and is headed back to the Bay Area, according to a league source.
Per our source, the visit went very well and contract discussions were held.
Sims, 35, is going to weigh his options this weekend and talk it over with his wife.
A decision is expected within the next few days.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Barry-Sims-visits-Redskins-contract-discussed.html

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 19, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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