Possible Redskins Draft Philosophy 2010 -- Warning: may include logic
There are zillions of rumors floating around about what the Redskins are going to do in the remainder of free agency and the 2010 draft in a few weeks.
But there are some irrefutable absolutes that the team *must* address before the start of the season. Here they are:
1) The Redskins currently have no starting-level left tackle on the roster. Mike Williams or Steph Heyer simply do not count for this position. This is arguably the most important position on the field besides quarterback. This must be addressed high in the draft. If you disagree, you're wrong. Sorry.
2) The Redskins only have two running backs on our roster, one of whom was hurt last year, another of whom is 30 years old and got cut in the middle of the season last year by the freaking Chiefs. Do you feel good about that? I don't.
3) The Redskins have exactly one player on the roster that any of us would feel comfortable suiting up at nose tackle in the new 3-4 defense (Ma'ake Kemoeatu), who was injured all last season. Albert Haynesworth probably could play this position, but he probably won't. If the Redskins run a hybrid 4-3/3-4, maybe he or Anthony Montgomery could get some looks. But I would think the Redskins will need a player here, at least for insurance's sake. Everything you hear or read about a 3-4 defense says the NT is one of the most important positions on the field, and we don't have one of those I feel great about on the roster.
4) The Redskins will want another contender for a starting right guard or right tackle. Clearly, they can't be that happy with Mike Williams and Stephon Heyer given the play of the line last year under Joe Bugel, no slouch. They also may be in the market for backups.
These needs are the most pressing, and believe me, they will be addressed in this draft.
There are some positions where we have a want but not as much of a need:
1) Legit #2 wide receiver (or Brandon Marshall)
2) Another quarterback. Although, the Redskins have two quarterbacks who have started in the NFL, including one who played in a Super Bowl (although he is pretty bad, last anyone knew). They may have a 3rd if the current leadership is happy with Colt Brennan (they probably aren't, given that most things Zorn and Cerrato did would not fly with this organization). They will likely add another veteran or hang on to one of the guys at the bottom of the depth chart.
3) Another LB who fits better for either inside or outside in the 3-4
4) Other -- kicker, cornerback, kick returner, etc.
I'm a lowly sports blogger -- clearly the organization knows about these needs at the top and will fight to fill them as best they can.
That's why all this talk about drafting a quarterback seems so ridiculous to me. When you have a team with enormous needs across the board, why would you invest so much in a player who may not ever be better than the guy(s) you currently have on the roster?
The Redskins should -- and, save for the use of a strategy that employs no use of logic, will -- address their pressing needs in this draft, forsaking the sexy picks that will obviously remain on the board at #4.
It doesn't take a genius to pick out the team's biggest need. It is clearly left tackle. We lost one of our best players when Chris Samuels retired, and there was no young player in the wings ready to jump on that position for the foreseeable future. If Russell Okung is available at 4 overall -- and given that neither the Buccaneers or Lions are likely to take him because Suh and McCoy will be available at 2 and 3, this seems likely -- the Redskins will take him. Yes, you can get a good LT later in the draft. But why risk it? You can't pass up on a need that is so pressing when there is a clear-cut player available for you there. Okung is the best OT in the class, and that's our biggest need. This is a clear choice.
Yes, the Redskins are interviewing Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen and many other players as well. That's what you have to do. The Redskins have had about 5 months and have looked at hundreds of players that they are considering dropping $40 million or so on. They are going to interview all the good players in this class, as they should. Todd McShay et al will tell you this means something. Don't buy it. In fact, I hope the media continues to link the Redskins to a player like Clausen, because it may tempt a team like Cleveland or Buffalo to try and trade up to snag him so we don't take him. We will not take Clausen in this draft, unless, like I argued many moons ago, the organization has him pegged as the next truly can't-miss franchise quarterback. Did he ever look like that to you in college? He sure didn't to me, so I can't imagine that any team will make this assessment, especially one that needs other positions so badly.
So, I don't really see the Redskins having any reason to draft a QB in the first round. Many of our writers have speculated about Colt McCoy or another quarterback at the top of the 2nd. My argument against this is similar to the argument for not taking a QB at #4 overall. The Redskins have a gigantic list of needs and a 2nd round quarterback is even less of a sure thing than a clear-cut first rounder. And our pick in the 2nd round, #37 overall, is essentially as valuable as a first round pick. Most of those players at the top of the 2nd round are just as talented as the players who went just before them.
At the 2nd round spot, I would take either another running back (another one of the pressing needs I had listed before the jump) or a nose tackle. Both of these areas are legitimate positions of need. Sure, we have a coming-back-from-injury-was-once-a-beast player in Kemoeatu (and maybe/doubtfully Haynesworth) for nose tackle, but for a position on the defense that is so enormously important to the 3-4, the Redskins will clearly want to add another player here. This may not be a 2nd-round pick, but believe it -- the Redskins will definitely take a big boy to play NT at some point in this draft. Most of those guys tend to be later-round picks anyway (Kemoeatu, incidentally, was undrafted out of Utah), but if we took an absolute machine to play NT at this pick, none of us fans should be disappointed. It would be a great investment.
But it's my opinion that the 'Skins move to take a high-quality running back at this point in the second round. Maybe it's Jonathon Dwyer, maybe it's Jahvid Best, or maybe it's someone else. Either way, the Redskins are going to want to add youth, and speed, to their stable of running backs before the draft is over. You know they're going to add at least one player at this position before the season starts -- it's not like they're going to play this season with 2 running backs that haven't been good in a long time. Not only is that poor planning, but most teams carry at least 3 runners. It's simple logic that they will take a running back either in round two or later in the draft. Given the role that rookie RB may end up playing for the team right off the bat, I hope he's a second rounder. But, if we know anything about Mike Shanahan, it's that he knows how to pick runners!
So, we have 5 picks in the draft. We legitimately have to take a left tackle, so we will take one of those. We need a running back, we will take one of those somewhere down the line. It's likely we take a nose tackle, unless the organization sees someone on the roster capable of playing the spot (doubtful). We will likely take one more lineman, unless the organization feels comfortable with the backups on the roster (also doubtful). So, where does that leave us?
Rd. 1 -- #4 -- Okung
Rd. 2 -- #37 -- Best/Dwyer or nose tackle
At this point, the 'Skins will have three picks left -- #103 in round 4, #135 in the 5th round and #211 in the 7th. At least one of those will be an OL, right? You want about 8-11 linemen on the roster. And come on, this is Hogs Haven. I'm taking another!
We would have Okung (hopefully), Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Chad Reinhart, Heyer, Big Mike, Edwin Williams, Artis Hicks and one or two other guys that could sneak on the roster. So that leaves one pick left for a lineman, I would think. Given the injuries we suffered there last year, Shanahan will likely want to draft a good player who can step in for us. Maybe a backup center or right guard.
The Redskins may be in the market for a 3-4 style linebacker, likely a bigger guy for the inside. We don't have a lot of depth at linebacker, honestly. I would be really happy if they took a LB at some point in their last 3 picks.
Say they take a linebacker, do the Redskins invest our last remaining pick on a quarterback? I don't really see the point. A QB in the 4th, 5th or 7th rounds will not compete for playing time anytime soon, while a kick return specialist (a RB, WR or CB) certainly will.
Also, consider the possibility of the Redskins selecting a kicker at some point in this draft. I doubt the organization really trusts Graham Gano, don't you? Or the Redskins could find a diamond in the rough at WR who could step in and catch some balls. Given the success of the highest-powered offenses in the league, I think it's painfully obvious that having 5 receivers who can all make plays is a huge advantage (see Saints, Colts, Vikings, Patriots, Eagles, etc).
The value of drafting a quarterback at any point seems questionable to me, especially in the later rounds. Unless one of the qb class really knocks off the socks of the management, they won't take one considering how much they need players in other spots, and because he likely won't compete for playing time for several years.
But, maybe I'm all wrong. What say you, blogosphere?
My guess?
1 -- Okung
2 -- RB (Dwyer, maybe)
4 -- LB or NT
5 -- OL
7 -- LB or NT (whichever is missing from before)
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LT is Definitly our biggest need
Question is, will it be addresed in the first or in the second. If Okung is taken at #4, it will be a great pick by the Skins. If Bradford is selected(or God for bid Clausen), we have to use the 2nd on a LT; no doubts.
As for RB, you forgot about Aldridge and PJ Hill. Aldridge could also double as a kick returner. I would love to see an explosive RB drafted to eventually take over for Portis.
I don’t view G as big of a need as you do. Between Mike Williams, Reinhardt, Hicks, Fanaika, Williams, and Montgomery, I’m sure the staff can find a starter to play opposite Dock.
I believe a RT can be obtained in the 4th or 5th round. Guys like Sam Young, Jason Fox, Washington, Calloway and Black may all be avaliable. Also, I wouldn’t be so fast as to rule out Heyer. I know he didn’t play well last year, but don’t forget he was bounced around a lot. He is better suited to play on the right than on the left, and with proper coaching, and some talent around him, he could be good. I also wouldn’t rule out Reinhardt being given the opportunity to fight for the RT spot in the off-season.
I do believe that Maake and Monty will share the NT duties. I don’t think the staff would have signed Maake if they didn’t feel he could still play at a high level. Fat Al and Daniels should be the DE’s with Golston, Alaxander(I know he’s listed as a LB) and Jarmon backing them up. Jarmon may also factor in at OLB.
We could use some help at OLB, and could go there later in the draft with guys like O’Brian Schoefield, and also add some bodies with un-drafted FA’s. I could see Wilson starting opposite Rak in the 3-4.
by Tiller56 on Mar 31, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Personally, if it were me
I’d use the 1st and 2nd on OL, get 2 tackles. However I would not be upset if it went the way you predict. No one could accuse it of being a frivolous (cough Vinny-esque cough) draft if it went that way. Every pick would address needs.
I hope you’re right about all this QB stuff being smoke. I’m going to be extremely disappointed if we waste a single pick on QB this year and if we do I will only accept that I was wrong if the guy turns out to be a total superstar.
Even if he turns out to be a total superstar
I won’t be disappointed about not drafting him. I really think a team’s ability to develop a quarterback (by giving him time to learn behind a veteran, and then putting him into play with all the other pieces in place) is more important than who they actually draft in terms of QB success. The Skins aren’t at the stage in development where that’s realistic.
Of course there are exceptions to this (Manning Sr.), but trying to win the lottery is not a good way to build a contender.
Serious business.
Totally agree
OL with the first 2 picks…I could live with the RB/NT in round 2, but I think there is a decent chance that a solid OT drops into our laps at 37…suddenly the OL wouldn’t be such a disaster and this is going to take more than one draft to fix.
i agree- lets go LT and RT first two rounds and solidify that line…without that, all is a mute point. i dont care if you have manning and peterson. and you can not run effectively if the center and right side of your line is pretty soft
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
mute point isnt a thing. its moot. I dont really care just a heads up. and yes at least 2 OL would be amazing.
is it moot? lol thanks for the heads up. mute always seem to fit too- as in a point so minor its quiet! i am a stickler for that stuff too.. reminds me of the time i read a paper from my sister and she wrote…you took it for granite. chuckled on that one too!
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
actually just looked it up in the dictionary. mute is an adjective meaning among other things silent. so it gramatically fits but i appreciate you letting me know the common usage (of moot point). and after seeing moot point means debatable. i kinda like my version bec i dont think it is debatable whether we will win if we dont fix that line- lol
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I edited a girlfriend's paper in college
she referred to a “hierarchy” as a “higher archery.” At least she was aiming whilst trying to make her point.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
can't say much
I was probably 17 before I realized that The Who were not telling me that “We won’t get food again”
Or that Daniel Boone
was not “King of the Water Fountain?”
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Check out YouTube song parodies
especially Eddie Vedder ones. It seems NOBODY really knows what he’s singing half the time. haha.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I'll never leave your pizza burnin'
“I’ll never be your beast of burden”
great post, btw. this took a lot of thought and effort and is well done
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
I hate how ignorant you are while writing this.
But I love that you are absolutely right. At least you aren’t this way say that we should take Clausen. I might cry if that happens.
Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!
I think new regime = new QB
whether or not Skins fans think it is wise. We aren’t going to be good next year either way so why not bring in a QB who can possibly take us to the next level? I think we could get a 2nd or a 3rd for Jason if we do take a QB at #4 and use Rex as the backup.
1 – Bradford/Claussen
2 – LT
3 – RB/DT/LB/OL
4 – RB/DT/LB/OL
5 – RB/LB/DT/OL
7 – BPA
well let’s put it this way, shanahan will have seen tebow, clausen and bradford throw before he sees campbell. i believe that is true. he has not seen him throw yet, to my knowledge and reported as of a couple weeks ago.
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
still not the same as being there. especially when he is right outside the office on the field throwing- versus flying around the country to see the college kids. not making a big deal about it. i dont know what he is thinking. but it is obvious he has not already earned his trust.
by les boulez bomber on Apr 1, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
well..
to be honest i agree but as a GM in my first offseason with a new team and in city with fans with high expectations…instead of draft the All-American stud QB with my first pick for the team it sends a message of you want to win right away…i think the redskins should build a foundation for a winning team before drafting a Sam/Colt/Clausen or any one else…look at the ravens and their situation for years they had a great team buit everywhere else at all positions and dealt with Kyle Boller/Troy Smith and when the right guy for them came around for their team and system they drafted him now they threw a young man in a great situation and he is succeeding…i would be disappointed to see us put all our eggs in one basket and see that QB just fail…there is no rush to draft a QB its not like we just missed the playoffs or anything or the reason we lost the superbowl bcuz of rexy…there will be more QB’s just be patient for the guy
abra-cadabra homes!
agree completely
a lot of trowing around ideas here because (speaking for myself) because I am excited about the new changes….not just the coach (who I am in big favor of)…..it is all about a solid foundation first and always……..and the key solid players are not always the ones who get all the attention………midrange dependable solid players…….the players that can turn stars into superstars.
So we should really be trying out kickers
as we lost a few games because of them last year.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
only one way to try out the kicker...
hire one and hope…… How many times have you heard the announcer talk about knockin out 60 yard field goals with room to spare before the game only to see him whiff one from 36 with the game on the line? I dunno, lock him in a room with Riggo for 2 hours and he hasn’t hung himself with his shoelaces and still has the confidence to be a kicker give him the job?….I hear Jason Elam is available….sorry, been a long crazy day.
Funny
one could say similar things about college QB prospects. Ya never know. Elam just signed with the Broncos, btw, so they could retire him in style. Something I wish had happened with Jansen and a few others. Maybe Samuels will get to wave bye bye to the crowd and be inducted into the Ring.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I think they will trade the 4th pick.
a La Cleveland last year. I think they acquired a ton of picks. That is what we need to do!!!
They traded their 1st twice and ended up picking at 21.
And ended up with three second round picks. That is the route we NEED to take.
agreed…and it could easily happen if one of the two DT are available
by les boulez bomber on Mar 31, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
mmford I tip my hat to you
major rec for the time, effort, and logic you put into this post. Also major props for being against drafting a QB in the first round. There are too many disillusioned people in this fan base that believe we should draft a QB in the first round. Shame on you people. Okung at 4. Period.
Semin = King of Dangle Sauce
by Area 51 Forever on Mar 31, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Excellent Post
I hope we do go LT in the 1st & I hope that it is Okung. The LTs that will be available after the 1st rd. will be mediocre at best. We can get a good guard in the 4th & the 2nd, 5th & 7th rd. picks we fill in BPA for our needs. I hope that we get a ball hawking FS at some point as well but I don’t disagree with any of the needs that you listed. If Mike Shannahan & Bruce Allen go QB in the 1st tho, that will be fine with me, I am happy to have professionals running our team again
Ens, good point
I think you summed up nicely how most Redskins fan feel; in Shanny and Allen we trust.
I agree with the draft position
of taking OTs with the 4th and 37th picks. I also see the need for an additional DT whether the defense is 3-4 or 4-3 since the team cut Griffin. Haynesworth has very seldom played 16 regular season games and while he is one of the best DT in the league, the double teaming by opponents limits his energy and snaps, i.e., the Skins had 1070 defensive snaps in 2009, Fletcher played in 1055 of those and Haynesworth played in 573 (72% or 795 defensive snaps in games in which Haynesworth played). Goldston was the main DT substitute (608 snaps) and Alexander played 245 in a mix of RDT, LDT, and DE. Alexander is now down to 275 pounds and is listed as an OLB. A. Montgomery played 100 snaps in 2009 and has been suggested by some in a NT role. A combination of need and BPA in the 4th, 5th, and 7th rounds would be good for those picks. The projections for round 5 or so DTs that could play 3-4 DE are sufficient for the Skins to get one there. Perhaps a 4th round RB would be enough to get the Skins past the 2010 season but there are more likely in the 5th and 7th rounds. Maybe the Skins could pickup a FS or LB in the 4th round (Kam Chancellor,FS, 4th rd. or Jamar Chaney, ILB, 4th rd. (good combine) are alternatively, Myron Lewis, FS, 5th rd. or ILBs Phillip Dillard and Pat Angerer; or OLBs A.J. Edds, O’Brien Schofield, Arthur Moats, Kavell Conner.
No QBs are suggested for any of the Skins’ picks.
Once again
nice research, Jefferson. Liked the snap counts.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Just a thought....
What if we did get Suh or McCoy? and a LT in the second? good O is a monster D!
Suh bwould be the more ideal of the two
as he could play the 5 tech much better than McCoy who is a prototypical 3 tech DT.
IDK brett, I’ve argued against taking a DT at #4, but if Suh somehow fell to us, which I don’t see happening with Tampa Bay picking in front of us, I guess I could live with it.
Not for us.
good O is a monster D!
No it’s not. We’ve had an elite D for years, and our offense mostly sucked.
Granted our D wasn’t Baltimore/Pittsburgh level, but drafting a rookie DT is no guarantee of that.
We need to take the (drafting) risk on improving the O, not the D.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
If Suh falls, you gotta take him
I don’t care if he doesn’t fill a need. Haynesworth and Suh on the same line could literally change the way offense is played in the NFC East.
I don’t know how much use McCoy is in a 3-4. Most people seem to think he’s a pure 4-3 penetrating DT (Under Tackle), but he did actually play some 3-4 DE and nose in college.
If Okung and Suh are both available at 4 then you have a tough decision to make, but the odds of that happening are pretty much 0 since Detroit is going to take one or the other.
Serious business.
I agree 100%
Haynesworth and Suh on the same line could literally change the way offense is played in the NFC East.
And in the playoffs. This move would set us up to be an ELITE team in the next couple of years.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Disagree.
We simply have to build a good offense too. We can’t devote yet another high first rounder to the defense.
It’s no mystery why our offense has been so bad/mediocre.
Every high 1st rnd pick outside of Samuels since 2000 has been defense.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
D wins championships
has often been highly touted as a team strategy. Depth at OLinemen in the draft necessitates taking Suh if we are lucky enough to get him.
Very tempting to trade down for beaucoup picks if he falls to us, though. That would make this draft a total Christmas Story.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I think that's an old mantra that's not necessarily true.
In order to have the best shot you have to be good at everything, or at least try to be. Both the Colts and the Saints spent a majority of their money/picks on offense, and then tried to build a defense out of cheaper parts. And it worked. Just sayin, it’s possible to win that way.
We can’t spend an entire decade using our top-10 picks on defense, and then wonder why our offense isn’t good enough.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
You make some good points
but I like it when my team has an overwhelming, killer D. Just what I likee.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I don't think it's true as a rule
but there is a reason the saying persists. I think good defenses are (generally) more consistently good than good offenses. QBs, RBs and pass catchers are more prone to off-days than pass rushers and run stuffers in the front 7.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we should neglect the offense. Between OL and RB, we probably need to spend 3 or 4 of our 5 picks on it this year. But I don’t think we should underestimate how much better a truly dominant D-line could make this team overall.
Serious business.
great defense can win chamionships
we have above average talent on defense…..I take Okung over Suh, but I don’t see both being there for us to make that choice….Okung is gone, take Suh…..even over Bradford, maybe, I think……bad offense not affects defense physically but mentally as well….we need to at least be able to stay on the field…..who can blame out defense for getting tired out by the end of the game
Statistically, year to year, this isn't true
Team defensive rankings vary far more than offensive ones do.
I think good defenses are (generally) more consistently good than good offenses
Statistically this isn’t correct.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Magic is saying week-to-week, I believe
Could you elaborate? Where do you get this idea – overall team standings yearly or variation in stats, e.g. total turnovers over several seasons.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Pro Football Prospectus, 2008's I believe
One of the feature articles argued statistically that defensive team rankings vary far more year to year than offensive ones. IE the top offenses are more consistently good than top defenses.
Point being, in today’s NFL, “defense wins championships” simply isn’t universally true. Sometimes it’s defense, sometimes it’s offense. But really, you need to at least be decent at both. And for the past decade, our offense at best has been decent, and more commonly is below average or bad.
Not coincidentally, our offense followed the fortunes of the offensive line. In 2004-06 we had a good veteran OL. But since then, age (aka injuries) have been our downfall.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Thanks for the info
I can see all your points, but something about Suh and the fact that everyone says its a deep OLine draft makes me want to see it happen. Of course, in the unlikely event we must choose between Okung and another top player – Okung all the way.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
we need a lot more turnovers and pick 6s then! lol i think campbell would miss some games this year from injury and we’d be forced to draft a rookie qb next year. which should not be a problem bec we would not win more than 3 games!
by les boulez bomber on Apr 1, 2010 7:29 AM EDT reply actions
Possible Redskins Draft
I agree with Russell Okung at 4. He looks like a great prospect and it is a position we need filled immediately. I would have to look at the best available player at the positions you mentioned RT, NT, RB, and LB, but assumming all things are equal, I would go for a RT with the 2nd pick. This years draft is deep with offensive linemen so Iwould also look for a right tackle in the later rounds. We have to assume that it will take more than 1 year to fix all our team’s issues so I say address the most glaring weakness which is our offensive line. It will take a year for a new line to gel so you want to infuse it with Healthy young players now so by the time we get our franchise QB and/or RB they will be most productive. The defense was decent last year. I say stick with a 4-3 scheme but experiment throughout the year with a 3-4 and find out where you need help. Then address personnel the following year for a 3-4 scheme along with a QB and RB. Who knows, maybe Campbell will flourish with a better Offensive line and more experienced receivers.
by A Connecticut Redskin on Apr 1, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions
We definitely need
a starting tackle, and I think we need 2. I hope we get at least 3 O-linemen in this draft. I also agree that RB is one of our top 2 or 3 needs. Youth at that position is a necessity. What I like best about this post is that it does not list safety as a “pressing” need. I just simply do not agree with the notion that we NEED a safety. Sure, we could use an upgrade there, but with 4 players on the roster that have started it is not a “necessity.”
What I don’t agree with is the “#2 receiver” need. What I would like to see happen is Thomas take over #1, with Moss being #2. I believe Thomas has showed enough that he should be penciled in as a starter. I am also happy with Kelly and Mitchell rounding out our WR corps. Just like with safety, we have enough players at that spot that we don’t need to spend time messing with it.
agreed
I don’t see a pressing need at WR, while not elite at this point I am interested to see what happens under Kyle, especially with with Cooley and/or Davis out there. The offense last year was so simplistic, and well that train of thought runs right back to the OL…..Jerry Rice would have been frustrated on this team last year. A stud safety would be nice, but he would almost have to fall into our lap….I would like Berry, but a lot of things would have to happen to get there, maybe a second pick if we end up making trades and he slides a bit and we can get Gaither (pipe dreams I know)…outside of the draft maybe something is out there….I like Sharper if the deal is right….even .Lito to one year deals…doesn’t hurt and doesn’t effect the draft……just throwing it out there.
+1
The safety play will improve with coaching. WR, we should be set for the next 2 years. I expect big things out of Devin Thomas. And for some reason I feel like I’ve gotten to know him a little too well over the last few weeks here at HH.
Serious business.
Great post - Only I'd say go OL with the 2nd round pick
Serviceable running backs are easy enough to find, especially for Shannahan.
A high 2nd round pick is a huge asset for a team rebuilding.
We can’t add another skill position player until we accumulate multiple good prospects at offensive line.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
+1
wait on the RB until later rounds or until next year. Rbs have such short careers (they are in decline around 28yo and done by 30) that they should be the last piece added from a rebuilding perspective. The Skins are at least two years (or maybe two drafts) away from fixing this mess so waiting on the RB is the better path.
I want OL in 1st and 2nd rounds
but I will agree that you have a decision to make if Mt. Cody is still around at #37. If Charles Brown is available though, I think you have to take him. We could pull a Vinny and draft all WRs with our last three picks, but it would be a successful draft if we came out with 2 OTs in the first two rounds, in my opinion.
Long term?
Shanny’s here to stay (or at least for 3-5+ years) – the Skins don’t need to be good next year for him to stick around. My bet is that with the dysfunctional mess Cerrato left us, the true goal Snyder had to agree to, is for us to be back to a perennial playoff team about 3 years out.
This article is excellent if considering only how to be the best team we can be next year. It’s assuming that we’re good enough to be a strong playoff team in other areas, most notably QB. Now, while I agree with most of those wants/needs listed, none of us have the football mind of Shanahan. I’m sure he has a good idea in his mind of what it takes to make an elite team, and I’m assuming several of those pieces are harder to come by. if he has a chance to get one of those pieces even if not a huge present need, I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes it for a more long-term approach.
Also, if Shanny feels those elite players are better fits if developed vs. proven veterans, it make sense to want some high picks in drafts, so if we suck again this year, it means a better chance of getting another 1 or 2 of those elite slots filled.
If he’s not able to assemble the roster he wants via the draft and some smart FA pick-ups in the next 2 years, then we might see the wallet opening up again.
And yes...
I hope I’m totally wrong about the above, it’s just little things that’ll help us kick @$$, and this coming year Shanahan will lead us to the promised land with 3 wins under the Cowgirls screen (as much as I’d love home field advantage, it would be just that much more enjoyable to beat the ’Girls in the regular season, then the playoffs on their own turf, and of course win the Super Bowl).
Some feel the only acceptable draft position
is #32.
As much as I like that, it’s more likely to be #10 (due to hard schedule, time it takes the OLine to gel, and we miss on a few close games) or around #22 if we get some lucky breaks and win some close ones.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Maybe the stars allign...
and we get it right, we are picking at the 4th position for a reason. Well several reasons since the score board does not lie. One big reason is we don`t have the smash you in mouth O-Line and giving up huge amounts of yardage thru the air. Punt return yardage was invisable and getting first downs seemed like the other teams knew how to set up defense against us. Getting some of the needs thru the draft is vital since it will be a way to get younger at certain positions. Just hope we don`t get hit with a bust and take someone who can`t contribute. Really don`t think high priced free agents are the answer since they rarley are the ones we need to get over the top.
I've heard a rumor that Ryan Leaf is available
confirmed by his Parole Officer.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Here's a good tossup...
Ryan Leaf or Jeff George?
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
Jeff says he can bring it
was trying to get a tryout recently from what I heard. Two of the strongest arms, ever. And hardest heads.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
What was it Tiller said yesterday
about retard strength being pretty damn near incalculable. Ha!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

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