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2010 NFL Draft QB Depth - Who Do You Think the Redskins Should Take In the Middle of the Draft?

Here's hoping we don't use our #4 overall on a signal-caller...but we have trampled this topic lately.

I know we have been talking about this ad nauseam, but I thought a good topic to toss out there on this Monday morning is:

Which of the mediocre "best of the rest" quarterbacks do you think the Redskins could bring in this year with a middle-round draft pick and turn into a starter?

Everyone knows who I like: Dan LeFevour. His Pro Day was last week and all accounts seem to point to average arm strength, average footwork and average accuracy. This is good news and bad news in my opinion. On the heels of his performance at the Senior Bowl, LeFevour seemed to be poised to be "the guy" who could make a case to be the 3rd or 4th best quarterback in the draft. It was a risky move to decline to throw the ball at the Combine, and it looks like that decision will ultimately cost him, as his Pro Day failed to blow up many skirts among NFL GM's. The good news for us is that he might slip a round or two to the 4th or 5th where he may very well belong. The bad news is that he might be more of a project than I originally thought. I am going to stay in his camp for the time being, but I am making myself available to be swayed to one of the other guys by the Hogs Haven experts.

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Let's hear your best case for: Tony Pike, Jarrett Brown, John Skelton, Jevan Snead, Zac Robinson, and I guess even Colt McCoy. Feel free to add your own guy into the mix. One thing is clear to me: the order these guys come off the board in this year's draft will have more to do with the personal preferences of coordinators and position coaches around the league than the actual or perceived skill levels of each player.

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One thing is clear to me: the order these guys come off the board in this year’s draft will have more to do with the personal preferences of coordinators and position coaches around the league than the actual or perceived skill levels of each player

Shouldn’t that be every position and every year! Teams which succeed build a system on defense and offense then draft players which best fit the system in the later rounds. Which is still the best player available, what’s not said is it’s the best player avaialble for the system being deployed.
The first round players are the ones which teams should build the systems on, at least in the early part, the teams which obviously don’t have a system in place (See Redskins the last 10 years). Shanahan is establishing the system, which is why the #4 pick is unique in he will be adding a player who fits the system best, not picking a player to build a system around. Too long until the draft, get here!

by dr WNC on Mar 29, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Should is a good word to use there, doc...

I guess I used that statement to underline the lack of a definitive pecking order with these guys.

by Ken Meringolo on Mar 29, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still a LeFevour fan

as far as the QBs go. He has good size, a sturdy frame, great athleticism and good instincts.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm interested in getting on his bandwagon.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leave QB's alone in this draft!

Todd McShay has come out on record and said the only QB worth drafting in the first two rounds is Bradford. Now I’m more of a Mike Mayock guy myself but actions by other teams support his conclusions that this is a weak QB class. I mean Seattle just traded for a guy (AND paid him btw) who’s never thrown a pass in a regular season game.

With only 5 picks in this draft and plenty holes to fill, QB isn’t the most pressing need. How about drafting two OL? Okung and the OT from UMASS perhaps. I forget what year it was but we drafted Mark May and Russ Grimm back to back and that was the start of something great. Just saying.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Way to bring substance to the topic at hand.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This post isn't about drafting QBs in the first two rounds

Carful reading before commenting reveals this important detail.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Careful*

Ironic proof-reading failure

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I’m against drafting any QB in any round in this draft. The way I see it is that we could have Peyton Manning back there and it wouldn’t matter because he’d be getting crushed the whole time.

If we had a full complement of picks then maybe we take a QB in the later rounds but again we need depth across the board on our roster and I see any pick for a QB as a waste.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then you are in the minority,because most people want the Redskins to draft a QB

That is what Shanahan/Allen/Snyder want is a QB in the 2010 NFL DRAFT.J.C. is not that good of a QB yet? and they are running out of patience with him.

by CHAOS-BRINGER on Mar 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't speak for the general populous

but most people on this blog would not agree with that. Also, most people on this blog would say that you’re an idiot.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cosign
Also, most people on this blog would say that you’re an idiot.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...with the responses.

The comments might not match the nickname, but at least the sentence structure and punctuation does.

by KenPat on Mar 29, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has improved each year while the talent around him has declined.

What was he supposed to do last year? Lead that team to the Super Bowl? Not even Peyton Manning can make throws laying on his back.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will see when the Redskins draft in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

Redskins will draft Bradford if he is there at #4.IF he is not there,I"M curious to see if they trade down or select an OT,DT with 1st round selection.There going after either C.McCoy or T.Tebow with 2nd round selection.

by CHAOS-BRINGER on Mar 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

What “Mini Me” Chaos said.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me or the one who brings it?

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You!

You are not the idiot here. :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I didn’t realize basing your arguments on Todd McShay, like he has any credibility, is bringing something of substance to the topic.

by SSBlitz on Mar 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Credibility

I thought my Seattle example of them going after Charlie Whiethurst instead of drafting a QB in this draft backed up my point. Look at Browns, Jake Delhome and Seneca Wallace.

Also coming out and saying McShay is dumb or whatever, without any substance to support your comment doesn’t bring anything to this topic. Bottom line is that OL should trump any other need.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree Oline trumps every other need

but in the 4th and 5th rounds everyone is going to be a project, so I’m willing to let them just go best player available. If that happens to be LeFevour, great. I want our 1st and 2nd round picks to be linemen. You can’t really expect to fill ‘needs’ in the later rounds.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

All we have drafted on the line is

Projects. Most didn’t even make the squad, or even play on our garbage line. But on that note, don’t we already have a project QB with Colt?

by brettpedigo on Mar 29, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Brennan was a project.

I think he was an ‘insurance’ policy for Vinny…since Zorn’s good with QBs, if things didn’t work out with JC, then he could claim to have given Zorn the next big thing to work with.

I’m not saying that makes sense mind you, but not much in Vinny’s world did (I’m glad to put that in past tense).

by KenPat on Mar 29, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

good Point.

But you can’t keep relying on finding the diamond in the rough, like we have with the line.

I can just vividly remember that Sunday night game with the Ravens when they went on a man of a drive on the ground and just manhandled the line liker children in the fourth. One pass. a 30 yard strike when we put 11 in the box. It was a Gibbs like drive and Okung is the start of our own drive like that.

by brettpedigo on Mar 29, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll throw in a thanks for the honesty

pad :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

leave qbs alone!

none of these guys are an obvious upgrade over what we have now, with 2 exceptions…Bradford in the 1st and Clausen in the second. We can discuss 3rd string qb’s when we have all the other holes in the depth chart filled.

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Mar 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll buy half your argument

No Clausen, ever.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since when is Bradford such a sure thing?

Since St. Louis declared him #1 worthy? If Bradford is available at 4 and we take him, it means we passed on Okung, Suh or McCoy. Which to me is stupid. If Clausen is there at any point and we take him, that means we passed on every single player below him, and that makes me mad too.

Serious business.

by ThaRak on Mar 29, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome
that means we passed on every single player below him, and that makes me mad too.

phrase of the week.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clausen

“Passed on every single player below him…” – Yeah, well, that’s the way it works. Clausen is a pretty good prospect, and if we can’t get Bradford (which would mean we got Okung or some other top OT at #4), it would be a no brainer to take him Jimmy at 36.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 29, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are almost all upgrades what with we have now,J.C. is not doing his job or we would not be looking for a new QB

we will end up making a blockbuster trade in the draft just to get 1 of these QBs

by CHAOS-BRINGER on Mar 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF

How the hell is Campbell supposed to make his reads when he’s getting punched in the face on three step drops?

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

b/c Casey Clausen will “do his job” behind Stephen Heyer & Levi Jones

riiiiiight.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clausen and Heyer

If Jimmy finds out that he’ll be working behind Heyer, he might run to Canada to avoid the Skins. You’re right though, Jimmy (and Sam) would make plays, even behind Levi and Heyer. Shanahan is running all over the country scouting QBs – he must not be totally satisfied with what he has. He probably does not accept a shaky O-line as an all purpose excuse.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 29, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

your right last year they could have drafted phil loadholt and did.nt and drafted kevin barnes loadholt sure would have helped us ..

by lohaus#54 on Mar 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loadholt was a second rounder

Barnes a third. You are right we could have drafted Loadholt if we had retained our second rounder last year.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 29, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the idea of going OL OL in rounds 1 and 2

Our rebuilding mode is going to last for more than one off season. I thought I had heard that this was a deep draft for OL. If that is the case, let’s go big and use our first two picks on OL. Unless something crazy happens and someone drops in our lap in round 2.

Let’s not forget that we are missing 2 OT’s. My apologies to Heyer’s mom.

by mamorgan1 on Mar 30, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

hypothetical drafting a QB in the second rd would be ideal. where is Tebow projected? i want Okung in the first and Tebow in the second (for his leadership capabilities). GO REDSKINS!!!!

by beef g on Mar 29, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Then hire Tebow as a coach when he retires.
(for his leadership capabilities).

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 29, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, in a few months? Hire him.

Then hire Tebow as a coach when he retires.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

box quote fail.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

lay it on me man. i still think he’s going to make a good signal caller and maybe some day we will hire him as a coach.

by beef g on Mar 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha pretty much
What, in a few months? Hire him.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got LeFevour.

Поклон перед вашим капитаном!

by Knubles and Bits on Mar 29, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Id say draft offensive line first

The reason im saying this is next year i believe that a QB by the name of steven sheffield is going to be in the draft he plays for texas tech this kid has such a great arm and accuracy it is unbelievable i have seen this kid play and he is way better than bradford and tebow or even clausen or colt mccoy everyone should check this kid out he would fit in perfect for the redskins next year plus give us time to rebuild our offense a little before bring that kid in if we pass on him we would be crazy .

by washingtonwin on Mar 29, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

OK, Mom Sheffield.

But we might make Mrs. “LJP” Campbell mad.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gil Brandt

Says Bradford’s Pro Day today was ‘near flawless’ and the best he’s seen since a private workout for Troy Aikman.

by SSBlitz on Mar 29, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

"Let's hear your best case for: Tony Pike, Jarrett Brown, John Skelton, Jevan Snead, Zac Robinson, and I guess even Colt McCoy."

I dont know why you just slighted McCoy. He is the most acomplished and best QB out of all of those. Brown, Skelton, Robinson and Snead are all far away from even being on a NFL team’s depth chart. McCoy will be taken in the second round and can start this season.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Mar 29, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Because he is a 2nd round pick

and the rest of the guys are later round prospects. Wasn’t a slight, you’re just being a bit sensitive.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was deliberate, but I tend to agree with your beef...

Colt McCoy has done more than just about all these guys…yet he is more and more the forgotten guy as we hit April…That may change, and he could make a lot of teams and their fans look bad for sure.

by Ken Meringolo on Mar 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could be

the true sleeper in this year’s draft.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles fan here.

You have a decent QB and you have nothing going for you in the way of offensive line.

Listen, Jason Campbell isn’t an amazing QB. However, he has done pretty well with the limited weapons at his disposal and a joke of an offensive line. He makes the throws and limits mistakes. Now your WR and TE corps are starting to look decent and you wanna change QBs?

Unless the Rams really are that stupid and let Bradford go to you, I don’t think you should take a QB. Campbell has the tools to be a pretty good (maybe even top 10 QB). Give him some protection and see what he can do. While you’re at it, do something about your RB situation. You’d be sitting pretty if this were 2005, but alas…

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Lemme rephrase it so I’m 100% clear. I don’t think any QB in this draft besides Bradford will be as good as Campbell, so looking at anything more than a career backup is silly.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

Wasn’t that what Rex Grossman was brought in for?

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That was a 1 year deal.

I guess they want to bring in a multi-year backup who’s younger….? :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we have so many draft picks

And so few holes in our roster.

Serious business.

by ThaRak on Mar 30, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most of us agree that Campbell should be our starter in 2010

this post is looking for a late round project, not a guy who is going to come in and contribute this season. You did this with Kolb, you know.

Man, everyone wants to comment without actually reading the post these days.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carver...you get the gold star today

For not only repeatedly reminding folks I am by NO MEANS suggesting we draft a QB in the 1st (or 2nd) round, but for also patiently helping this Eagles fan. You are doing the Lord’s work today.

by Ken Meringolo on Mar 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing devil's advocate here

but I thought he was referring to the overwhelming amount of posts we have so far talking about QBs in general, not just this one.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then this post was the wrong place to bring it up,

because he mentions “changing QBs” which has nothing to do with this post.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

devil's advocate here

that’s all I was sayin

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Godfather

I knew I was goin out on a limb on that one.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you just got an offer

you can’t refuse. LOL

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys have a project sitting on your bench right now.

You’re either trying to improve your QB situation (which you’re not going to do this year) or you’re looking for a backup (like I said). Which is it?

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

you said

career backup
A project is something different

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a career backup you delude yourself into thinking will be better than someone like Jason Campbell.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

a career back-up qb that must be Jason Campbell

that is where he is headed after he gets beat out by Bradford, McCoy,Tebow oreven Leferour depending on who they draft.

by CHAOS-BRINGER on Mar 29, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

please ignore this

this does not represent us at all.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The majority of the site seems to believe

JC is a capable quarterback and we’d much rather draft to bulk up our O-Line.
However, we see the possibility of the the new coach wanting to start his new regime with a new quarterback.
That being said, this post had nothing to do with Bradford of Claussen (the two picks that keep getting thrown to the Redskins in a variety of Mocks) This post was simply the mid to late options the Skins could draft to groom.
I personally believe Colt Brennan is a sufficient project QB, but again the front office could take a shine to one of these mid-round Kevin Colbs if you will.
Now go throw snowballs at Santa.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kolb was taken in the second round and was not taken as a “project”. He was taken with full intention to make him into the franchise QB. You’re not helping your case by comparing any of these players to Kolb.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was drafted with the 36th overall pick, by the way.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, um, that generally doesn’t happen. That’s why those players get drafted higher. I’m not saying it’s impossible to get lucky, but nobody drafts QBs later than the middle of the second round with realistic expectations to make them a franchise QB.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why

we’re looking for a project to groom.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You obviously have no idea what I’m trying to convey. If there’s any way I could make myself easier to understand for you, I’d be happy to do it. I can use smaller words, or I can try drawing pictures. I’m not that great of an artist, but I’m really trying to help you out here.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I admit that I was mistaken where Kolb was drafted

but maintain my point that we aren’t looking for a franchise quarterback here. Beyond that, I’m not sure why you’re so concerned with a bunch of redskins fans discussing their 4th and 5th round draft prospects, other than the fact that you’re probably just an asshole like every other Philadelphia fan.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Is that necessary?

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I can assure you I’m not an asshole though I will agree there are many Eagles fans who are. However, there are many fans from each fanbase who are assholes, as can be determined by this topic.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

You don’t come across as an asshole. at all.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, because I come into this topic wanting to discuss it and I’m greeted with such kind remarks.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

this post is looking for a late round project, not a guy who is going to come in and contribute this season. You did this with Kolb, you know.

Wow, I just saw that you said this. Kolb wasn’t a “late round project”. He was drafted with the FOURTH pick in the SECOND round. He was drafted with the intent of replacing our franchise QB.

So you are admitting you want to replace your franchise QB. Well, I’m going to just repeat what I said earlier, and that is this: You’re not going to improve your QB situation with anyone in this draft other than Bradford or possibly Clausen. You already have a project QB on your roster. Protect Campbell and give him a running game and you’ll forget you ever wanted a “project” QB.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We never said we wanted a project QB dude

We’re just discussing mid to late round options.
While we’re on the subject McNabb is a beast and you Philly fans are dicks for treating him like you do..

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m glad you felt the need to comment on the way Philly fans treat McNabb. I agree with you. I hope you meant that to personally offend me, because it didn’t in the least.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry sport

I hate to disappoint, but I don’t get my jollys hurting people’s feelings over the internet. I’m into other cool things like getting laid.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so we have internet cool guy here. Hooray for internet cool guy!

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yeah, there’s been multiple mentions of wanting a project QB.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

By project QB

we mean a late round pick that can work under the Shanny’s for several years to see if he turns out to be any good. Like a Tom Brady situation. I think you’re confused as to what we mean by project.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so now you’re looking for Tom Brady. Tom Brady wasn’t a project, he was winning the goddamned lottery.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

But we’d sound like idiots if we just went and said we’re tossing cards at a hat here.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s dumber to say you’re hoping to land Tom Brady than it is to say you’re looking for a project. You should go back to that.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well when the Redskins Organization

decides to take cues from the people’s troll we’ll be sure to give you a ring Mr. YomJo.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can’t do much worse with me than they have since Snyder took over.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious.

Dan Snyder comments, you cut us deep man, you cut us deep

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I’m just stating the truth. I’ve got friends who are Redskins fans who would say the same thing.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing with you

In fact you’d have to look pretty hard to find someone on here who would argue that Snyder has held us back for quite a few years now..

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, so once you realize that I wasn’t meaning to insult you, then there was no harm in what I said.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said I was harmed

I was being sarcastic man, you’re talking about outdated stereotypes perpetuated by the national media and you hit us with a Dan Snyder sucks comment? Come on man, bring your A game.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, because it’s a stereotype that the Redskins have what, 2 playoff wins under Snyder? Is it more or less? I really don’t know, I’m guessing here.

The “Eagles fans are assholes” shtick is just lame though. Every city has fans that treat people the same way. I’m not defending them, at all. On the contrary, I hate them. But to say I’m an asshole because I’m an Eagles fan is childish and I’m not going to take you seriously if you can’t even give me the chance to be treated like an individual, and not like the mythical stereotypical asshole fan.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

My roommate in college is from Philly and is an Iggles fan

He’ll be the first to tell you guys are assholes. Embrace it man. I love him and his family to death, but when it comes to football season we call them assholes and they call us deadskins. It is what it is, we’re not on the UN here, we’re talking offseason football. If I saw you at a game I’d buy you a beer. It’s all in sport dude

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. There are assholes that happen to be Eagles fans. There are also assholes that happen to be Redskins fans. However, I don’t say all Redskins fans are assholes, because that would make ME an asshole. So, enjoy your beer, asshole.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

KEEP YOUR DRINK JUST GIVE ME THE MONEY

JUST YOU AND YOUR HAND TONIGHT

Pink quotes are always good for internet slap-fighting.

Don’t ask me how I know those lyrics.

Serious business.

by ThaRak on Mar 30, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Kolb will win you guys a Super Bowl

finally. I mean hey, he has had 2 300 yard games, right?

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on family

can’t we all try to get along?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The offseason is too long

Heckling is much more fun at the stadium

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite is after we beat the Eagles(Sean Taylor fumble recovery) to get into the playoffs

a couple years ago I put up a Craigslist ad for Eagles Playoffs Tickets(they didn’t make it) and inside was a picture of a old hippy giving the finger while smoking a joint and then proceeded to thoroughly lampoon the Eagles and their Jersey fan base. Freakin hillarious. I only wish I had been smart enough to set up a fake email address to get their reply’s before it was taken down. My friends got a kick out of that one.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 29, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should have saved it!

That would make for a good fanpost

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmh

I didn’t see the harm in what the guy was asking, and I didn’t want our blog to get the reputation of jumping down people’s throats from other blogs w/o reason.

but as Carver said, I don’t wanna end up swimmin with the fishes so this is all I’m saying in the matter.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were accomodating for a good while there

he kind of took it that direction, who are we to deny him a good heckling?

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could. I don’t know. I’m still undecided on if I would rather have the Eagles trade McNabb or not. I’m OK with either decision and I’m less than qualified to really give my opinion, but I was definitely originally leaning towards staying with McNabb. However, it’s hard to argue that QBs are hard to find and if the Eagles like Kolb so much then you can’t really stick with McNabb.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you keep McNabb

because I don’t want you to have another high draft pick.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its dumb to

troll a division rival’s blog. You should go back to your own.

by CarverM on Mar 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How am I trolling? I came in here to discuss the topic and you guys say shit like “go throw snowballs at Santa” and “You’re probably an asshole like every other Eagles fan” and I’m the troll? You guys are delusional.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You literally proclaimed yourself

as the people’s troll. We couldn’t make that up.

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, personal insults with no basis whatsoever. Admirable!

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s been my signature for like 2 years. I can change it to say something else if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. I rarely leave the Eagles board because it’s hard to find people willing to have a serious discussion without hearing outdated insults relating to stereotypes perpetuated by the national media, but whatever.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Mar 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth YomJo

I’d like to thank you for speeding up the last 20 minutes of my work day. But I’m past my time, so in the interest of not working for free I’m going to call it a day. Later on

by DoWork on Mar 29, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of who?

good god son the redskin nation is so far from being monolithic on anything…that cracked me u[ more than anything I’ve ever read here

by terpsez11 on Mar 29, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't poll all of Redskin nation

but the majority of the regular commenters on this site share that sentiment.

by CarverM on Mar 30, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not excited about using a mid-round pick on a QB

But if one caught Shanny’s eye I would be cool with it. We could use a guy with some marginal talent to develop as a quality backup or possible starter down the road. I like how Holmgren used to develop young guys(Hassleback, Brunell) behind Favre. Never hurts to have lots of options at QB regardless of how you feel about JC.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Drafting a QB

It’s all speculation at this point. No one and I mean NO ONE knows what Shanny is going to do come draft day. It doesn’t matter who you have at QB (Peyton, Brady, Brees, etc.) if you can’t protect him he can’t make plays! That is good ole common sense. We have to address the most pressing need and that is our SORRY O-line. Shanny might take someone like Pike or Tebow in the 2nd (if available) but I really think he will address the O-line first and foremost. We haven’t acquired much in the way of free agency to help our O-line so, following the laws of common sense, I really think we will draft some Tackles and maybe even a guard to add depth. Our Defense is slightly above average and we have some play makers on offense (on occasion). All this speculation about QB’s is just plain silly. Don’t get me wrong, Campbell is NOT the future of the Redskins, but he is a moderately capable QB who needs an O-line to protect his soft rear end. We can worry about a QB sometime in the future. Now is not the time.

by saw_gunner on Mar 29, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

soft rear end???

Campbell has taken a beating and played through bad ankles, and not missed too many starts. Say what you will, but he is not soft!

The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button

by Skins Fan '77 on Mar 29, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF!?!?
he is a moderately capable QB who needs an O-line to protect his soft rear end.

You didn’t watch a game last year, did you?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

JC's rear...

Say what you will trying to goad people into an argument, I attended several games ( home and away, those I didn’t attend I watched on TV ) and I saw him fold under pressure more times than I could count. He held onto the ball WAY too long and took a sack when he could have thrown the ball into the sidelines. It is easy to sit in the stands or in a recliner and say he should have done this or he should have done that, it is not easy to be on the field and to actually do it. For that I have the upmost respect for him. Now if you guys would get your heads out of your posterior orifices and READ what I origionally posted, you would realize that I am okay with Campbell for THIS COMING YEAR! What the Skins need to address is the O-line. Drafting a QB is NOT a priority. Draft one in the 2nd and make a project out of him. 4 out of our 5 picks need to be O-line to add strength and depth.

by saw_gunner on Mar 30, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

For ANY QB...

Our Schedule seems BRUTAL this year. BUT…… 2011 seems a helluva lot easier.

Line this year. Stud RB next year (and another lineman) along with Mature WR’s and TEs…. It;s going to get better!!!!!!

by brettpedigo on Mar 29, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

To state the obvious
It;s going to get better!!!!!!

Because it is absolutely impossible to get any worse. Think Swinging Gate, if you are not sure about what I said.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 30, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why no love for Jarrett Brown?

I think this guy could be a great late-round project QB, tons of upside. He’s got a fast, fluid throwing motion, is pretty accurate, and can sling it downfield. He’s got solid QB size at 6’4" 223 and can obviously run well (Pat White’s successor, think Pat White if you took 25% of his running ability and added it to his passing ability). His senior season he put up 2144 yards with a 63.2 completion %, another 452 yards on the ground, and lead WVU to a 9-3 record. I call him a project because he only started one season and played in that WVU spread, but like I said—TONS of upside and will probably go pretty late in the draft.

by SkinsTribeVA on Mar 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, not a bad thought.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 30, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like lefvevour but??

we already have a project his name is campbell but i dont think lefvevour will be a project draft okung and see if danny boy is still around ..

by lohaus#54 on Mar 29, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I like him as a prospect

but don’t think we should spend our 2nd on him

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 30, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Draft

Hope for Bradford at #4 (if gone, take Okung or best OT). If Bradford is gone at #4, take Clausen, McCoy, or Tebow at #36 If they’re all gone, take another O-line at 36, and hope for Lefevour or Pike or other promising QB in round 4 or 5. If can’t get any QB, go with JC, Rex and Colt. I don’t see the point of drafting any defensive player in the first five rounds of the draft – we need offense far more than defense, which is strong, and not likely to be materially improved in the draft.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 29, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you are terribly disappointed that

we don’t take any QB this year – thus making me very happy! :)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 30, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just listened to a Dan LeFevour interview

Talk about Moxie!!!! That dudes body is 60% water and 40% moxie!!!! The Moxie was literally oozing out of my headphones!!! I got some stuck in my ear and it got infected, total case of “Moxie Ear”!!! I say use our first 2 picks on him. He’s got that much Moxie!!!

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 30, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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