Washington Redskins All-Decade Team - Honest-To-God Football Talk
by Sugar on Mar 19, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
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Like many of you, I was only barely able to escape yesterday's Hogs Haven discussion with my support and love of Devin Thomas intact. When he is destroying the NFL next season on his way to his first Pro Bowl, we will all forget that Kevin made us read about his love of naked bodies. In the meantime, I thought I would toss out a few topics to get this All-Decade team wrapped up and put to bed. In the comments section below I will frame up a question on each of the remaining positions, with my automatic bid included. I leave it to the Hogs Haven faithful to help make this team complete. I'll publish the final roster next week (I'll sandbag it for the day when the only thing we have to cover is London Fletcher doing a cooking show or DeAngelo Hall appearing on "The View"...)
Washington Redskins All-Decade Team So Far...
Offense
QB: Brad Johnson, Jason Campbell, Mark Brunell
OL: Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen, Tre Johnson, Randy Thomas, Casey Rabach, Derrick Dockery, Ray Brown, Ethan Albright
RB: Stephen Davis, Clinton Portis, Mike Sellers, Ladell Betts, Larry Centers
Defense
CB: Champ Bailey, Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, DeAngelo Hall
Special Teams
P: Hunter Smith
K: John Hall
We are looking for a few good DT's, LB's, WR's and TE's...and of course a safety or two.
Thanks in advance for the spirited discussion. Don't forget, eligibility is as simple as suiting up in the decade (but service time is fair game for debating the merits of an individual's inclusion.)
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21 for safety = world's easiest decision
Sadly Landry hasn’t made the case for the 2nd safety yet… Ryan Clark may have my vote.
The Landry/Taylor combo
was one of the nastiest safety combinations we’ve ever seen. If I could reunite them I’d do it in a heartbeat, why not do it for the all decade team?
Absoloutley
In the 6 games they played together, they both made eachother better. Sean Taylor, who was playing at a HOF level, was able to monitor the receivers and get more INTs, while LaRon only had to defend the run and short pass.
Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!
by Horcasitas4 on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not many options
How about Sam Shade? Landry’s an obvious choice, but he hasn’t really lived up to the hype.
Hail to the Redskins!
Marcus Washington
Only one who jumps out… although I think LaVar will earn a spot back here as well with Fletch
Gotta throw Pierce on there right?
He was a phenom for us and we do play a 3-4 now.
Definitely LaVar
he was my favorite player for several years. Was just damn exciting—not to mention he dominated Madden. 99 overall.
Lavar and Marcus on the outside..
Jessie Armstead or Lemar Marshall on the inside w/ Fletch
Hail to the Redskins!
great pull
I forgot about Jesse. That year we had Lavar and Trotter, it was Armstead who was our most consistent linebacker.
Use the force -- Todd Yoder
Just kidding… or am I?
we need a blocking TE
so why not Yoder.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Robert Royal?!
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 19, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wide Receiver - Santana Moss' two TD's to beat Dallas in that famous Monday Night game against the Cowgirls gives him the nod.
This debate is going to be nasty.
He should go into our Ring of Honor for
just what he has done for us against the Cowboys.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Coles
Went to a Pro Bowl for us. Also, the play-action pass from Brunell to Coles was unstoppable in Madden. Hey, that’s all I’ve got.
I can't say
my memory is fuzzy back then, and I tend to forget negative things when it comes to the Skins. Helps me sleep at night.
I don't remember that.
He toughed through some injuries.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I thought the opposite
He was always going across the middle despite having horrible QBs and his whole tenure was that of Spurrier. I’d still think we could do better.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 19, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, Coles has to go in by default
Since we didn’t really have much at WR at ALL during the decade.
I mean, we did have a few cameos by over the hill all-stars, such as Keenan McCardell (who did quite well, actually, in the short time he was here).
What about David Patten????
How about Justin Skaggs?
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 19, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
James Thrash
He didn’t do much as a WR (2nd leading receiver in 2000), but maybe as a special teamer. Also, Rod Gardner and ARE
Hail to the Redskins!
Defensive Tackle - This position is deceptively deep for us I think.
Not in the over-the-top talent part, but in guys who have done some real good work for us in the trenches. Joe Salave’a, Cornelius Griffin, Big Daddy Wilkinson…I think I’ll go with Griffin for now, but I am very much willing to bend to the will of the people on this position.
How many spots are we alotting for DT?
Are working with a 4-3 or a 3-4. With the 3-4 I’d go Griffin starting with Salave’a backup. Haynesworth needs consistency and couple more years here for me to give it to him.
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
Correction
Are WE working with a 4-3 or a 3-4?
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
I think we kind of settled on a hybrid...
but I think Griffin and Salave’a would make this roster together regardless. Let’s consider them in.
Defensive End - Possibly worse than our Wide Receiver decision...
One of the first things I think about when I think of the Redskins over the last few years (excluding this past season) was our lack of sacks. To me, I like a defensive end that blends personality with a fiery style of play. We have been a little shy in that department but I think we have two strong contenders in Marco Coleman and Brian Orakpo. I feel very strongly about putting Orakpo in here just to kind of stake HH’s claim in him as a defensive end. His amazing rookie campaign justifies his inclusion here too, right?
The People's Choice!
I loved Kenard Lang when he played end for us. His best years as a Redskin were 98-99, but he wasn’t bad in 2000-2001.
Orakpo
He came in a year after the complaint about the lack of sacks and lit it up his rookie year. He should be a lock.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Orakpo and Bruce Smith
Sure he was at tail end of his career and just here to break the all time sacks record. He was also the epitomy of what was wrong with the Snyder plan, high priced, big name, old free agents. Sure his and Deion’s names are used first when mocking Dan Snyder and his fantasy football mentality…. What was I saying?
Phillip Daniels?
He had 6 sacks in a game against Dallas and has been nothing but solid since we signed him in ‘04/’05 or so. He definitely deserves a shot at the roster.
And now I'm a hypocrite
Because Rak gets in but Haynesworth is out. Haha. Second on coleman.
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
A Redskins All-Decade Team for the 2000's?
First off, let me just say I’m a Skins fan, kinda. I grew up listening to my Grandmother yelling at the TV on Sundays. And I’ve owned season tickets before. That being said…
Why in the F would you think that picking and grouping the “best” ‘Skins of the 2000’s would be any kind of fun. Every one gets a 12th place blue ribbon and wears a helmet.
The Skins sucked in the 00’s. They never came in 1st in the East. 4 different coaches. Gibbs came back and averaged under .500 in his 2nd era. They made it to the play-offs only twice and we’re kicked out both times by the Seahawks. The Seahawks! Granted the Hawks made the Super Bowl in 05, but only because Shaun Alexander was a beast that year. Too bad he wasn’t a beast in 2008.
Why do you even wanna bring back and reminisce on the first 10 years of Danny’s rein. I’ll tell you why. Because most “die hard” Skins fans are too busy riding the coat tails of 82, 87 & 91 and aren’t really happy unless they have something to bitch and moan about. So hard headed. Spending money on big names does not make you good. Maybe on paper but not on the field. You can’t look me dead in the face and say 70-90 is a good record. That’s a mild spanking in college basketball.
Since I’m just ranting, let me touch on this… Spitting out stupid facts about how the Cowboys haven’t won a playoff game since 96, ignoring the fact that the Cowgirls made the playoffs 2 more times than the Skins since that time. It’s like listening to fat kids in gym arguing about who didn’t come out dead last. Another fun fact, drunkenly yelling “You’ve never been to effin’ Dallas!” is A) not relevant B) not an intelligent argument point C) not worth listening to a Cowboys fan talk about his last trip to Dallas.
I understand this article is for fun and entertainment purposes only and. I don’t me to bring down the thread but, this is what I starting thinking about about when I read it. I’ve got six hours before I start to slowly forget that I wrote this today.
6 hours left eh?
Hopefully you’re planning on ending your life in front of your boyfriends and your adopted kids.
by TheOverLordMarshl on Mar 19, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I supposed bad grammar is a side effect.
by TheOverLordMarshl on Mar 19, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats my job on this site. No one else does anything to shut people down. I have previously been kicked off this site 6+ times for personal attacks but even the admins admitted what I was saying is funny. I dont have a problem with others opinion, contrary to popular belief, I just hate insolence.
by TheOverLordMarshl on Mar 19, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
Sugar originally wrote this during the new year to commemorate the turning of the decade. Our season was over and there wasn’t too much going on so he decided that we would do this.
It’s been a funny/sobering thing to do, but he’s doing this to keep us involved. How about you?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Wouldn't that be "Boofed"
just sayin’. Either way someone is getting the honey-hole pounded in his bedroom.
First of all, you're a St. Louis Rams fan, according to your profile
Welcome to Hogs Havens by the way…where you’ll find the best Redskins fans on the planet. I can’t speak for everyone, but I rest pretty assured in the knowledge that none of us have ventured over to Turf Show Times (the Rams blog on SB Nation) and told them how they should celebrate being a fan.
Based on this rant, I can see you may have a passing interest in the Skins, and you seem to have a grasp on a few issues we deal with…but I am not sure I would even “kinda” categorize you as a Redskins fan.
Now you got me going…you see, we don’t choose to be a fan when the team is good, and ignore the team altogether when things aren’t going our way. The last ten years happened, and wins and losses don’t change the fact that there were some guys who came through here that we thoroughly enjoyed watching and cheering for, which makes this roster fun to create. Does it dredge up a few painful memories? Sure. But we all went through it together, and I don’t get the sense you include yourself in that “together.” Which explains why you don’t get what this exercise is all about.
by Sugar on Mar 19, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOU TELL HIM SHOOGAH!!!
and his St. Louis Goats!
by SkinsOsTerps on Mar 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I get what you're saying...
My point is that, and ignoring my opinion about Skins fans, is that an 2000’s All-Decade team doesn’t seem like it would be possible. Yes, some Redskins players are better than others but is the 2000’s team a good enough team on paper it even say it would be an good team. All-Decade, to me anyways, refers to an All-Star cast of players. Some are better that other but are that All-Star quality.
Lets say for example the Rams. And lets exclude the teams from 99-02 since those players would be the bulk of the “All-Decade” team. 03-09 was a joke and you can’t really pick and chose to create a good team. That’s the basis of my point.
Thank you for actually have the conversation, rather than low browed “yo momma/you’re gay” comments. Those comments are whatever. Since it being a football site, I thought I’d only rely to those who opinion made sense and were on topic.
Its all relative.
We’re just making a team out of the 00’s players with no predication that it be a world-beater. Its actually more comical than anything if you stop taking it so seriously, because we spend just as much time making fun of how bad our team was over the past decade than bullshitting about how great our All-Decade team would be.
You simply take yourself too seriously to understand the entertainment value of such an excercise. The concept itself of an All-Decade team spanning our franchise’s worst decade is a satire itself. Fuck off.
by CarverM on Mar 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What the??
First off, let me just say I can fly, kinda. I mean, when I go up to my bedroom window and jump out, I am flying. That is until I am lying on the ground, writhing in pain.
What the hell is a KINDA Skins fan? Well, whatever it is, it ain’t you. Cuz any semblance of a Skins fan wouldn’t get on any Skins site and defend the Cowboys.
As far as this post, wake the eff up. This is a Redskins site, and we talk about all things Redskins. Yes, the team has underperformed this decade. So does that mean that we shouldn’t have favorite players? Since we haven’t been winning, should we crawl into a hole and not come out until the team hoists another Lombardi trophy? Maybe that’s what they do in St. Lewey, but it doesn’t happen here. We watch, and root for, our team every year. And during those years, we have certain players that we favor over others. So, when we have no more football to watch, this provides a perfect opportunity to remember the reasons we’ve been watching our team for the past decade.
There, now that I wasted 5 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back explaining this stuff to you, I’ll get to what I really wanna say. GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE!! If you don’t wanna read about the best Redskins of the decade, then don’t. If you don’t wanna hear about what we think if front running Dallas fans, then don’t listen. And, most of all, if you’re looking for something to keep you busy for the next 6 hours, how about holding your breath?
For what it's worth
Joey Porter signed with Arizona. Not to upset he isn’t on our team but the lack of depth especially at LB and OL concerns me alot.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Mar 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
#66
where is joe jacoby? Three super bowl rings , 4 pro bowls and the block that sprung
Riggins in SB 17 to beat the phins.. Jacoby was is the man,,,
All decade team??
Thats laughable……All mediocre team is more like it…..
I cant decide on which great Qb
hmm…so many damn good qbs..Danny Wuerffel…Shane Matthews…Tony Banks…Jeff George…
oh you all forgot to mention Wide Reciever Taylor Jacobs he was awesome so was Trung Candidate.
Considering our only QB to win a playoff game
is Brunell I think he has to be the guy. :)
by SkinsOsTerps on Mar 20, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is the coach of the all decade team?
I would give it to Marty
Semin = King of Dangle Sauce
by Area 51 Forever on Mar 21, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
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