A question for the Portis people......
by shvd98z24 on Mar 16, 2010 5:05 PM EDT
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So I was listening to some sports talk radio this afternoon.....and they brought up some things about Larry Johnson in KC. The thing that peaked my interest was the fact that Chiefs fans started a petition for the Chiefs to drop him so he did not break Priest Holmes all-time Chiefs record. Now.....I am not comparing any of CP's shenanigans with what Larry Johnson has been arrested/charged/accused of, but is CP the name we want at the top of our all-time rushing list? John Riggins is at 7472.......Portis is at 6597........876 yards and he is our all-time leader (per Pro-Football-Reference.com ). I am not suggesting a position on this necessarily....but want to hear some other opinions. If I had to go one way or the other.....I guess I don't really mind. In our situation....Riggins does embody what it is to be a Redskin and he is a fan favorite....but he didn't live the "cleanest" of lives. In the Chiefs situation....Holmes was never anything but a true pro....on and off the field. Because of that....I don't know that the same resentment would apply to CP here! I just know if he gets it.....it would still be hard to not think of Riggins as the better of the 2. Maybe I am alone on that.....so what do you say?
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Doesn't really matter to me
It’s just a record and the old guys are naturally gonna get passed when they played less games per season.
That's understandable....
my question isn’t really whether it gets broke….it will inevitably…..but is CP the guy we want to do it. I know your position….just adding to the thread so people see what I am getting at!
you make a good point
It just doesn’t bother me I guess.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 16, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
shvd, Riggins better then Portis ? LOL this is laughable. A healthy Riggins versus a healthy Portis this is not even a debate.
Riggins played in a great era for the redskins while CP can not say the same . I am not a fan of CP but he is when healthy, better then Riggins ever was.
by LETJASONPASS on Mar 16, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a better Redskin
Portis is clearly the better back…..I will make no bones about it. He is a complete back and that is rare. As far as being a Skins fan….Riggins gets the nod from me as the better Redskin! It is not a fair comparison however…..bc Riggins was actually here before my time. In that way……I could prolly back-off my statement…..but in my heart….>Riggins was the better Skin. I feel like I will be talking about Riggins more in 20 years than Portis!
No, Riggins
He is not a better back, but Riggins is the better winner with helping his team win a Superbowl.
It was the greatest of times with Riggins and the Redskins.
Portis is a special running back, but not a special leader to lead his team
Two things
One, it’s like excellent QBs, but one has a ring or two. Riggo was money. CP all stats and flash (good blocker and good hands, granted). If you need 3 yds for a TD, Riggo all day every day.
Two, Riggo was the better team mate/Redskin. Did not make Honorable Hog for no reason. It’s presumable that Riggo has no affinity for man sausage. CP….less than a certainty?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
who cares...really?
isn’t it slightly more important to fix the running game than some stupid record that doesn’t really mean anything. That being said, Portis never got us to the Super Bowl but Riggins had a better team around him.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I'm alright with it
when compared to LJ, I compare CPs mouth running to immature shenanigans.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
CP is CP and Riggo is Riggo
You can’t really compare them in any way except by their stats – and then they played at a different time. Makes great salon reading, but otherwise means nothing in the scheme of things. I’m waiting to see the next great Redskin back.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I would have loved to seen Davis at the top of the record book.....
another player sent out of here with piss-poor timing
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
What the hell did we need with a good running back??? We had the Fun ’n Gun!!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
You are lucky.....
I have a sense of humor….and short memory. What the hell are we talking about? lol
This just made me laugh my ass off
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
It's even sadder when you get to the bottom....
and realize we were relying on Ramsey! Nice link Rekka…..I needed a smile!
I actually wanted to cry
but was laughing still the same.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Records were made to be broken.
If Portis is dedicated enough to stay on the team, I hope he breaks it.
Let him break it.
At the end of the day, the measurements of a player can be skewd. Record for yards, record for TD’s, record for carries…
It’s all a matter of opinion of who’s deserving. Emmitt Smith has the All-Time Rushing Record, but if you ask me, Barry Sanders is the greatest back to ever lace em up. And as easy as it is for me to say Barry, someone can argue that Payton was.
So at the end of the day, if he does break the record yet he continues to be a “cancer”, then we’ll just have to root harder for the next back to break the new record.
I am all for Doak Walker
He was my grandfather’s favorite player of all-time……..I did some research on him and even though stats don’t tell the story completely…..what a tremendous threat he was on the field. I have 6 of his 1948 Leaf RC cards!
Factor in the modern era....
I think you have to go Payton…….but I have a huge soft spot for Earl Campbell.
yeah all those are great
Watching those old NFL films things on Jim Brown gives me goosebumps.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
See? All a matter of opinion.
And if Portis crushed your favorite back’s record, that wouldn’t mean anything.
all things being equal
I’d take Bo Jackson over anyone else. I loved Payton, Dickerson, Sanders, etc. But, in my opinion, if Bo didn’t know baseball, he would’ve gone down as the greatest back ever. THat dude was ridiculous. And who DIDN’T use the Raiders on Tecmo bowl and just run Bo all day? I think the 2 sport-life burned his body out.
My understanding is that his hip injury was a basic running injury
He probably would not have saved much use of it as he was a workaholic in the off-season.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Probably
but don’t you think playing 2 professional sports does a little extra wear and tear on the body? Regardless of the hip injury, he still beat himself up pretty bad.
Reply fail
I will admit that him playing Baseball probably did not help him out any. And there was always a risk of collision with a wall/fence or another player. But I’m pretty sure I recall Bo keeping in max shape no matter what he was doing sportswise.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
he definitely
kept in top shape. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m just saying that playing sports, professionally, takes something away from the body. That’s why they have offseason’s. I’m not saying that’s why he got hurt, I’m just saying that, had he concentrated on one sport, he would’ve been a lot better at it than he was.
not to quibble with you their shvd
but the phrase is not “peaked your interest” it is “piqued your interest” bloody Americans!!! :)
As fro your main point, I get where you are coming from, nut no one will be complaining if Portis gets a 1000 yards this year, I certainly wont thats for sure, cos it means he has come back committed and ready to play, and remember, 1st half of Zorn Season One he was amazing, if he gets back to that level, the last 18 months will be forgotten I would imagine.
And dont forget, for all his many many faults, the dude when on the field was always happy to do the dirty work, initiate contact, place downfield blocks, chip on the way through all that stuff, so I think we should be rooting for him to succeed, I dont have much faith, but it will be good for the team if he does well so I hope he does do well
Pommylee
Not to quibble....
but the radio show “piqued my interest” while the fact that KC had a petition to not let LJ break the record…peaked my interest!!!!!! :) haha
not bad
coming to America to watch a game or too, either this September or (the more sensible option due to some money that is coming my way at that time) 2011
but should hopefully see you all then
Pommylee
I'm the bald guy wearing the Redskins cap.
Can’t miss me.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I was waiting for that...
I will have a poster of me without my hat on – now that they are legal!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
everyone should earn their starting spot
and no position should be just handed to a player. That applies to every position and in every year. There’s no other way to win in such a competitive league. If LJ or a rookie RB out performs CP then they should get the carries and not CP. personally I definitely prefer Riggins to CP but winning trumps any concerns about who holds the record.
I personally dont think they are even really comparable...
Now a days more games are play per season. Our healing technology is far better so there is more play vs. rest. I dont care who holds the records. I dont think anyone but Riggins really cares if his records are broken. Portis has put many yards on the books for us. I hope and prey that he will get us more.
" IF YoU Are aRgUinG WiTh ME, YOU ArE WRonG!!!! "
Records are made to be broken
And, what, John Riggins is the height of non-controversy?
I don't care about the record
but I’d take Riggo in his prime over CP in his prime any day. Just my preference, but I prefer the Diesel’s running style. And for those talking about Portis’ ability to catch it out of the backfield, Riggo could catch it too. Sure, Portis in his heyday may have given you more breakaway’s, but when you NEED the yards, you’d give it to Riggo every time.
Anyway, it’s hard to compare guys from different eras who have completely different running styles. I just go with favorites, and seeing the Diesel trucking people has always given me fond memories.
As a young guy (23)
I didn’t get to experience Riggins in his glory. CP was our generation’s Riggins per say. It’s just a changing of times, and I’m not sure they should be pitted against each other.
The Chiefs fans wanted LJ out because he was a serious detriment to their perceived image of themselves and they also believed he was just about to limp into the record books. CP has brought a lot of positives to Washington and shouldn’t be labeled in the same way LJ was in KC
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