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Pour Some Sugar On Me - Cautious Optimism Without the Caution

I really want to get excited about the incredible participation in Coach Shanahan's offseason program, but I am going to temper that excitement today. One thing I promised myself at the end of last year is that I was not going to get carried away by the various little things this offseason that don't change our win/loss record, which will remain 4-12 until September. I am easily spun up and in recent years I have talked myself into loving such absurd moves as hiring Steve Spurrier, trotting out Shane Matthews as our starter, and bringing in Adam Archuleta to bolster our secondary (to be fair, Archuleta was a standout safety on my Madden franchise, and his wife is ludicrously hot.) By the time we got to the regular season, I would be thinking we could maybe win 10, 11...12 games based on our offseason prowess. I figured:

  • Watching JC, Todd Collins, and Colt Brennan dodge giant rubber balls in practice was worth a win or two.
  • Hearing all about how strong Ladell Betts looked in practice (in July) translated into a win.
  • Seeing our starting offensive line playing together (in August) surely would net us at least a few W's.
  • Hiring new strength and conditioning coaches to lessen hamstring injuries was going to put over the top in the division.
  • Three young, fast, strong rookie receivers (one a tight end) would give us an edge in a pass-happy league.
  • T.J. Duckett is just the kind of back that will get important first downs.
  • Patrick Ramsey doesn't need more than 4 blockers on any given pass play anyway.
  • Trung Canidate is just looking for an opportunity.

Star-divide

No more. SERENITY NOW!

As Chris Wallace said, "Show me, homey."

That is where I need to be right now and that is where this team needs to be right now. After going 4-12, there is a lot to prove, and the only place you can prove anything in the NFL is on Sundays in the fall.

If it were only that easy for me...I really wish it was. Unless I tattoo the above thoughts on my leg, Memento-style, I wake up each morning completely forgetting all of it. Instead, my brain dwells on the following list-in-progress, which succeeds in making me blindly optimistic yet again. In today's Ten Yard Fight, I give you some of the reasons why I will be beating the drum of 10-6 (at worst) come this August...despite the preponderance of evidence that suggests otherwise.

Ten Yard Fight - 10 Chances To Make One Good Point

1)      The defense is in good hands with Jim Haslett. One thing this franchise has done well over the years is transition to new Defensive Coordinators. Granted, there have been rocky days, but the Redskins defense has been a strength for this club for a long time, spanning several changes to the DC in D.C. Marvin Lewis, Gregg Williams, Greg Blache and even Mike Nolan are all solid coaches that have come and gone, but our defense has (for the most part) kept chugging along. Jim Haslett has his detractors, but when I look at what he wants to do with our personnel, I don't become despondent about our chances to continue playing at an extremely high level on defense.

2)      Clinton Portis is playing for a coach he knows and respects. Now, we can all debate the latter part of this statement. Nobody really knows who Portis respects and who he doesn't (wait...we do know one coach he does not respect.) His attendance at the offseason workout programs could just as easily be driven by dollars and not respect. But my softer, more optimistic side is going to give CP the benefit of the doubt on this one. Sure, he pulled plenty of antics as a Bronco under Shanahan-the WWE-style championship belt he and Shannon Sharpe made up for him to wear and his brash personality chief among them. But Portis knows better than most anyone in the current locker room what Shanahan is all about and he probably knows where the line is that he needs to stay behind (unlike our actual offensive line, which has seemed nonexistent at times and suicidal to stand behind.) The chance for him to recreate some of that early success will be there and CP is no dummy-if he is capable of getting it done, he will.

3)      Devin Thomas and/or Malcolm Kelly will break out in a big way this year.  The magical 3rd year for wide receivers comes for both of these guys in 2010. My money is on Thomas to blow up for us this year, but the truth is Kelly has the potential to have a big year as well. Kyle Shanahan is going to need somebody to step into the Andre Johnson role on this offense, and I don't think Santana Moss is that guy. To be fair, nobody on our roster is anywhere near Andre Johnson, but the point is Kyle will be looking to Thomas and/or Kelly to play big and strong like AJ is so good at doing.

4)      Bruce Allen looks and sounds like a GM.  If any of you out there are like me, your ears are still ringing from the sound of Vinny Cerrato talking. It was like scratching nails on a chalkboard combined with taking a dump on a unicorn...in word form (looking forward to your comments on that one Scott and Carver...and Rekka.) Conversely, Bruce Allen sounds like an honest to goodness football guy capable of communicating to the outside world. Sure, he gets caught up in GM/coach-speak sometimes (where answers and statements reveal nothing at all) but even in those moments, he gives you what you would expect (and perhaps want) out of a GM.

5)      Jason Campbell is getting another offensive system to try on. This is typically portrayed as a bad thing...except when the previous system was woefully inadequate. Imagine going to a restaurant thinking you are going to order steak and potatoes...because that is what you like. But then the waiter decides you should have the vegan platter and so that is what you end up eating. In this analogy, the waiter is Zorn, and the vegan platter is an offense based on quick decisions made behind a crumbling line with receivers who are either unproven or too short to locate. I feel like Kyle Shanahan is going to figure out a way to play to JC's strengths and perhaps his comfort level in the new system will counterbalance his lack of experience in it. (OK...this one was a stretch.)

6)      Dan Snyder seems to have ceded power to football people. This is what we wanted, right? Even when he wasn't meddling, his reputation as a meddler led us to believe he never really stopped meddling. I do believe that at various points over the last decade, Snyder has left the team very much alone to do whatever it was going to do. But in the absence of truly strong-minded and established football guys, he has stepped back in with both guns blazing. We have both established and strong-minded individuals at the highest positions of our franchise. It is clear over the past month that these people are calling the shots. This bodes well for the franchise entering the season.

7)      The kinds of players we are adding/retaining this offseason are the building blocks around which winning franchises are built. How many Artis Hicks jerseys are going to fly off the shelves this summer? Lorenzo Alexander? Kedric Golston? Hell, I would not expect to see too many Larry Johnson jerseys sold either (though I DO expect to see a healthy dose of Grandmama references.) Yet these are the guys that we need to play well in their roles this season if we have any hopes to be successful. And these are the kinds of players you can draft young bucks to come in and complement. As long as you have guys like this who work hard day in and day out, you are one step closer to being a team that is maybe a player or two away from being very special. We are not there yet...but that is the direction we are possibly heading.

8)      Fred Davis and Chris Cooley could be a very special combination in the red zone. So this will be the third year I trot this one out. My rationale this offseason is that Cooley's injury last season gave Davis the playing time he needed to gain confidence and the game film the Redskins needed the rest of the league to see. Davis certainly showed teams what he is capable of and in the red zone, opposing defenses will likely have to make some hard choices about who to cover with a linebacker and who to cover with a safety. It would be nice to see us take advantage of that decision on a weekly basis, since neither Davis nor Cooley should be able to be covered by a linebacker.

9)      Every year, a team comes back from a down year to make a playoff run. Yet another retread of thoughts from previous seasons. Doesn't make it any less true though. First-year/newly acquired head coaches at the helm of rejuvenated teams make noise every year. Why can't that be us? (Don't answer that...but seriously, we can't be bad forever, right?) (Don't answer that either.)

10)   Things feel a lot different than they did at this point in previous years. I readily acknowledge that Bruce and Mike might be perfectly happy to rebuild this year and attack the Super Bowl in 2011 and beyond. Assuming we think there is a chance for us to compete this coming year, the way we are going about getting to September feels a lot more like the way good teams do it. By not chasing big name free agents, not trading away draft picks to bring in older veterans, or resting the hopes of an entire season on offensive linemen who either have never played in the league or have not played in the league for over a year, Allen and Shanahan seem to be employing a very sound process in the shaping of this team (assuming more offensive line help is on the way via the draft.) The legitimacy of this process adds legitimacy to our hopes as fans.

Hopefully, this list grows faster than the one that is filled with the (obvious) reasons why we are still behind the 8-ball.

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A couple months worth of (optimistic) posts and comments

nicely condensed into a single article, complete with a unicorn scat reference!

by CarverM on Mar 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm waiting for

the Alexander jersey to be released. Frankly, I don’t quite understand what’s taking so long. But, now that My Man Mason is gone, I need a new Rudy to back. Speaking of, who IS wearing #24 this year? I need to start stitching a new name on that jersey.

As for the training program, is there any evidence of D Hall actually LIFTING weights, or is he just busy kissing Shanny’s ass praising Shanny the whole time. I wanna know if he’s gonna be able to tackle decrepit old QB’s with the game on the line this year.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

#24 Jersey

Hopefully CJ Spiller or Jahvid Best Or Toby Gerhart

by Elaw6 on Mar 16, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pulling for Gerhart

I don’t see the Shanaman taking a first round RB, and I’m holding out hope that we land O tackles with our first two picks. Which means, of the group you listed, Gerhart would be our best bet to drop to us.

OK,OK. You got me. NONE of that plays into my reasoning. I want Gerhart because he is the Great White Hope at runningback.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we have Allen

and his legacy ties to the organization. Why not get nostalgic and draft Riggo V2.0 to go along with round 1 and 2 line picks?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

And, did I mention that Toby is white. How cool is that?

Of course, some jackass could point out the fact that taking Claussen could equate to “getting nostalgic” as well, only this time in deference to Joey T.

Nope, I want the GWH.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

CJ

I’d be careful with the acronyms if I were you….

GWH=TLW

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear

if ONE more of you a-holes lumps me in with LJPP, I am going postal on this site. I don’t even remember what the hell he used TLW short for. All I know is that Great White Hope is an age old term, originated by the likes of Peter Berg, Damon Wayans, Jamie Foxx, and Samuel Jackson.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said anything about LJP CJ. Why would you think that?

I was just saying acronyms can be confusing, and people could think you meant something else when you said GHW. Like “God, How Weird” or something.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, woops

guess you caught me jumpy. I just figured that since LJPP came up with TLW, you were comparing me to him (shudder).

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't know what you mean, Rekka

by TLW – used by LJP or anyone else. Guess I’m old fart school.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLW

CRIBBS BABY!!!! The Lethal WEAPON!!!

Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!

by Rabid on Mar 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can do everything!

And GWH goes back to the early 19th century when boxing fans were looking for the GWH who would regain the heavyweight crown. Just saying it predates the Wayans Bros. et al.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be a stickler....

Early 20th Century…. we’re in the 21st

Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!

by Rabid on Mar 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I "dohed" as I posted. :)

I’m also on meds that are making me crazy – more so than normal.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep forgetting

that you guys just aren’t as smart as me. The Wayans movie was the Great White HYPE. Was waiting for someone to point that out. Of course I realize that the term predates that movie. Though I think it gained the most popularity when everyone thought Tommy Morrison could beat up someone other than Sylvester Stallone.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

good one. I served that one up nice, didn’t I?

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than a non-sanctioned fight

against an MMA fighter on an Indian Reserve.

by CarverM on Mar 16, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great White Hope

Can’t remember the details, but I think there was a very old (40s or 50s?) movie called the Great White Hope.

by Donnio1234 on Mar 16, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

True,

but since I missed naming the entire century, I’ll pass on the attempted decade selection.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Decrepit old QB’s like Jake Delhomme? D Hall would lay down the law against a decrepit old QB, wait….

by travisjh86 on Mar 16, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

they'll probably just put on an acronym like

PSTBR – Player, soon to be released….

Probably would save them some money that way….

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 16, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeaah, Buddy!

(though I DO expect to see a healthy dose of Grandmama references.) <<Excellent line.

Point #8 struck a cord with me. I was ready to ship Cooley out of town but a dual-TE threat within the 20yard line….that would be venomous for ANY defense to try and defend.

by Elaw6 on Mar 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus

they provide insurance for each other. Davis for Cooley, should he not be fully recovered from the injury, and Cooley for Davis should he not be able to sustain last years limited success.

But, my biggest argument for keeping Cooley, is Mike Wise’s line.

Chris Cooley is .. a beer truck with a broken parking brake …

That is the best analogy I have ever heard.

by CJHutch on Mar 16, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's true
(to be fair, Archuleta was a standout safety on my Madden franchise, and his wife is ludicrously hot.)

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 16, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Marko Mitchell

I’m interested in what he’s capable of doing on the NFL level. I wonder if little shanny has anything planned for him?

by travisjh86 on Mar 16, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

In terms of raw and under/mis-used talent

Haslett and the Shanny’s must have thought they had woken up in Toyland when they saw the potential of our players.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a nod to Cerratto?

by travisjh86 on Mar 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

To a certain degree

Yes. But then you have to factor in “At What Cost?” Money and draft picks flew out the window. We had young talent that was not allowed to play much. And we completely neglected OLine. Finally, book is still out on some of these talents. That we are in as good a shape as we are is quite amazing. We are also fortunate to have the cap go away.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very fortunate indeed to have the cap go away, or else we would be stuck with all that “dead weight”

by travisjh86 on Mar 16, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can believe ARE is playing again for the Steelers

as a back-up and for about 1/10th what we were paying him. Hmmm…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it's more of a sentiment like

the law of avergares finally taking place… you know, like the saying “even a blind squirrel finds a nut in the forest sometimes”.

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would

heavily weigh that factor into our current situation. I would also say that as poorly a job he did in so many other areas, either he and/or other staff members/coaches etc. at times did seem to be able to discern talent. What they neglected, often, and especially in FAs was cost in dollars and draft picks and, probably the most important factor, character.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was like scratching nails on a chalkboard combined with taking a dump on a unicorn…in word form

Well played sir….well played

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes,

I always felt we were getting the shaft whenever Vinnie talked.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does that mean that Shanahan and Allen

are the rough equivalent of a bidet and 2-ply quilted TP?

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Mar 16, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-ply actually

Shanny didn’t come cheap

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would agree...

4-ply plus a warm-water fountain of knowledge, if you catch my drift.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haslett unleashing the defense

Should be on the list. Watching the soft, softer, and softest style Blache defense was… um, trying. Perhaps letting AH do what he does and freelance while Rak and Carter do what they do, will be a nice change.

by RPMontana on Mar 16, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey it's #1

That’s what I get for taking so long to read this. Damn work

by RPMontana on Mar 16, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Sugar

please don’t forget our schedule this year. I think with our D amped up, this is mitigated, but besides our nemeses in the NFC East, we play the Colts and a lot of really strong teams. Then again, we almost beat the SB champs.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

With you on that one, Scott,

I’m still going 5-7 wins. The trick to achieving a long-term, playoff-caliber team is to look at it in that exact fashion—the long term. I think the DC fans, in general, are quite hesitant to accept losing seasons, and so they often call out the headsman when something ‘appears’ to be going badly in terms of wins and losses. I hope we can all get on the ‘this may take several seasons’ bus, but we shall see next year, when we have, say, 1-3 wins in the first half of the season. (insert some funny quote here from the Cowardly Lion __________).

by landuin on Mar 16, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to root and cheer and then accept reality.

Fortunately, I think the reality is we will get better sooner rather than later.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 17, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sugar - Can I add "an ours goes to 11" comment

I have to feel that there are at least 2 wins out of having a decent 2 minute drill replete with clock/timeout management minus “Swing-gate.”

I think we break thru the “No 4th Qtr Comeback” curse simply because we will have a running game, a decent Oline, and we will play harder and smarter on offense. IMHO>>>>

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

"No 4th Qtr Comeback"

Hands down, that’s an issue the quarterback has to live with. Someone headstrong, confidant, and poised playing under center is the only way to increase the chances for that.Jason hasn’t/doesn’t/isn’t capable enough to bring us back from a 4th qtr deficit and he has proven it every time his squad is down in the 4th.

I prayed, wished, hoped for comebacks against TB in 07, Dallas in 09, Det in 09 etc, etc.

That’s one of my few knocks against JC17. He has 0 clutch in his system

by Elaw6 on Mar 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

JC is both confident and poised.

Some of the 4th quarter failures are his fault. Some aren’t. Sometimes he got us a lead and the defense gave it away.

“not being clutch” is a loaded idea by itself, let alone taking into account the dysfunctional environment JC has had to try to QB in.

JC is not an all pro who can win games by himself, but the the idea that the Skins would have won all these games in the 4th Q if it wasn’t for him is relying on a nebulous, completely subjective observation, and ignoring the bigger picture.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 16, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could add a couple of 4th Qtr wins had we

not Suished them a way. Also bend but don’t break D was on the field all day. O might get a penultimate score only to have tired D give up last second score for the loss.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh definitely

Swissham screwed us out of a couple games.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 16, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th and td

Didn’t JC throw a td bomb to santana moss in the final seconds of a saints game 2 years ago for the win? I think he shrugged off a sack, stepped up in the face of pressure, and delivered a td.

Dudes got something left to prove I think/hope.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 16, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

He also iced the game with a 4th down pass completion to lead to kneel downs

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008091407/2008/REG2/saints@redskins#recap-channels:cat-post-recap-full-story/tab:analyze/analyze-channels:cat-post-playbyplay

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 16, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go.

Game ball
Campbell was steady throughout the game and stepped up to an even higher level in the fourth quarter. With the Redskins trailing by nine entering the final stanza, Campbell led the team on two touchdown drives and finished 7-of-7 in for 157 yards and a touchdown in the final 11 minutes.

So people can stop saying he can’t win in the 4th quarter.

The Beat Box aka skins secondary.

by Al_CaPWNED on Mar 16, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

DoWork and I were at that game

it was awesome. It was reminiscent of the Dallas miracle capped off with an afternoon of chanting “who dat” to a bunch of stunned Saints fans.

by CarverM on Mar 16, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Carolina game should have been won

as well. In his interview with Reid, Alexander said the Panthers got away with holding on the one kick return. The hold opened up a return lane.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 17, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with #s 4, 6, and 10 as being positives.

      I like that Allen and Shanahan are in charge, and Snyder is out of it. I am optimistic for those reasons. I have serious doubts about #s 1-3, 5, 7-9 as being true this year. I sense a de-leveraging with the roster and player’s salaries that will continue into next year before the true foundation will be established. 6-7 wins seems very realistic to me.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 16, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

easily and by a lot.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 16, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't know

why thomas jones wasn’t given a look see.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 16, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They may have talked to his agent

and the start negotiation price was too high. Don’t know what he’s getting now. Don’t forget, the start price for an agent is going to be real high when talking to us vs someone else just because we historically pay. A lot of what they’ve done is re-establish a true market value for the players we would accept in the future. Going forward, we will not look like just a pile of money or a means to leverage against current team.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Doc said this week, Rekka,

because he’s old, and came with a tremendous price tag. Always loved the guy, though, ever since he starred at VA.

by landuin on Mar 16, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Thomas Jones just came off one of his best years. The Jets really committed to the run, but when they gave the ball to Jones, he ran hard and he almost always took a yard or two MORE than the defense was willing to give him. It was a real shame the Jets did not keep him…I think Jones is going to make Matt Cassel’s year in 2010.

by Sugar on Mar 16, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

TJ is better

I would rather count on a guy to come reasonably close to what they did last year than hope some dude becomes a stud again. How much of TJ’s contract was guaranteed? It certainly seems we could have had TJ for pretty much the same amount of money

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 16, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have trouble faulting Shanahan's judgement

In regards to RBs. Sure he drafted Maurice but he was smart enough to let him go. He was also the genius that got everything out of RBs like Tatum Bell, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns. I don’t think he sees this as a gamble. I believe that TJ is nearing the proverbial RB cliff.
At the same time I would have rather had TJ too.

by RPMontana on Mar 16, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid!!!

Oh, yeah! I wish I were there with you. I’d love a 10-6, playoff-caliber team. But THIS AIN’T IT! We’ve been sold a bill of goods for years, man! So our perception of what is “good” is whacked! How many of the 10 cut do you think were actually “good”? And those were some of our “leaders”! Inside our own division we are no better than third. Look at the sched, too. Brutal. There are 3 gimmes (Bucs, Rams, Lions), the rest were deep in the playoff hunt. And, oh yeah, WE LOST TO ONE OF THOSE GIMMES LAST YEAR! (You’re welcome Detroit.) If Shanah-Allen can get us to 7-9 it will prove football genius and good things to come. Otherwise, I’m seeing another Top 10 draft pick next year. This year is a suckfest just waiting to happen. And I’ll be at every game again.

by 44ever on Mar 16, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

We actually came close to beating the Super Bowl Champs

So I’m going forward with the attitude that with improvements we will be competitive every Sunday/Monday/Thursday.

I don’t think there are any gimmees in the NFL any more. Sure, one team will be favored over another, but it won’t mean much.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean we were competitive in most games to a degree

with one of the worst OLines in history and one of the worst game managing HCs ever (sorry Z, not really fair, but damn close to the truth).

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zorn threw around time-outs

like Michael Jackson in an antique store

by CarverM on Mar 16, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like

Vanna White peddling vowels.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 16, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The things I've liked best this off-season so far

are

A. Willingness to accept that this team needs addition by subtraction at the moment

and

B. Our loss of the off-season Super Bowl- we haven’t done anything Danny-ish in FA and we even added someone who isn’t going to sell jerseys but might actually help our offense

I’m not quite there with the kool-aid yet but if we have a smart draft, particularly in terms of help on the o-line it will be hard for me not to start getting optimistic. I will be happy with a return to some basic level of respectability this season. Anything more will be gravy (not that I don’t secretly hope for more).

by SkinsOsTerps on Mar 16, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I’ll be optimistic for 2011 if we draft offensive linemen this year. I don’t expect a bunch of new young offensive linemen to immediately come in and gell and put us over the top. However if we draft them this year it will get them the experience they need to perhaps dominate in 2011, and we could probably draft some key skill position guys in 2011, particularly a RB that can come in behind a young established o-line. I like the chemistry for 2011. I’ll be happy with 8-8 in 2010.

by Kurtstack on Mar 16, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with both of you.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Mar 17, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll jump on the bandwagon if/when

The Redskins draft offensive linemen early and often. It’s a deep o-line draft, that is to say there are a lot of legitimate NFL linemen, but not many stars. That means it’s a perfect draft for the redskins to solidify the o-line. Shanahan is good at spotting O-linemen, so this gives me more confidence. HOWEVER, if we do not go with the BOLA plan (Best offensive linemen available) this year (i.e., they draft the big name again in the first round Jimmy Clausen), then I will be convinced that nothing has really changed. Right now, I’m in wait and see mode. No optimism here yet.

BTW – campbell put up “average” qb numbers last year. That means about 16 teams in the league could upgrade their team with Jason Campbell, and he put up those stats without an offensive line. I’m not so pessimistic about Campbell but we have to get him help in the form of an offensive line. He proved a lot to me standing in there last season even with no confidence in his front line. I can’t think of a QB with a worse offensive line who had a better year than Campbell. I one of a few that believes in Campbell if we can get him the protection he deserves.

by Kurtstack on Mar 16, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Bandwagon:

If the team was just concentrating on the offense in the draft with 2 OL and a RB, I would feel optimistic also. It would not be that hard getting back to an 8-8 season. Changes in offensive and defensive (4-3) schemes would be enough to improve their record. It is not to late for some good free agency moves without spending moola bucks.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 17, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

It's too early for cool aid

I’m holding off until after the draft, then I’ll be as foolishly optimistic as ever.

by aFan4Life on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

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