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My ideal Redskins 3-4 defense for 2010.....

Soooo with the FA period really lax for the Washington Redskins it has left alot of  the fans curious,impatient, and imaginative as to what this new team will look like. As for myself i haven't been satisfied with a Redskins season since i lived down the street from RFK. But anyways in my bordem and curiosity i've read countless, blogs listened to every expert and fan opinion as to which direction the Skins should and should not go in on both sides of the ball. And for one i figured hey why not put in my two cents as a fan eff it.

 

From what i can see and read about it is pretty imminent or apparent that we as Skins fans are gearing up for a season as a 3-4 defense or some high speed form of it. Now in saying that i approve of the decisions so far on the defensive side of the ball and i think i'll add one or two. The Skins i believe have a pretty solid base at defense that despite the 10 player cuts we made have stayed intact...so i think that means after evaluation and plenty of film watching its pretty safe to say they are either waiting for camp to make more cuts or they like what we have and just want to add to fit in with there new scheme. Now we all speculated and wondered about Peppers and Rolle and Dansby but i for one didnt really think we needed any of them to be honest even though one of the three is an exceptional talent i shouldnt have to say who....i think that after we re-signed Daniels and added Ma`ake there are at least two more players i believe should be looked at.

 

 

I say O.J. Atogwe and also Andra Davis who just got released from the Denver Broncos.

 

 

I'll explain Andra first. Well for one i think he is a damn solid LB on the inside. He isn't flashy money hungry and it would seem as though he would fit into the caliber of player we want here for the skins. Now i thought about this and i said to myself what about Rocky McIntosh and i read that he is willing to be flexible and play at another LB spot. Now here are some stats that stand out to me for Andra....

 

A.Davis

Over his eight seasons played he has averaged 64.5 tackles a season.

In the seasons he has played all 16 games in (6/8) he has averaged 63.8 tackles a season.

He has 12 sacks in his career and 3.5 sacks in 09'

And in the last two seasons he has been in on 90 tackles in both.

 

In saying that i think that those are numbers well worthy of lining up next to Fletch in the middle. I think in signing Andra we we get a very consistent,DURABLE,bargained since that seems to be our direction this off season, and solid cover LB and solid tackler and run stopper to compliment London. I think as a Skins fan we need all those things in our defense. We all know that Fletch in his seasons with the skins has made a 100,96 and 95 tackle efforts after watching us not be able to tackle last year thats exactly what we need in the middle two proven veteran TACKLERS, guys who will swarm to the ball and make sure they get there man. Since the 2007 season London Fletcher is accounted for 403 tackles Andra Davis...247...im just sayin put these guys in the middle to stop rushing attacks and you can not be let down because of arm tackling, and those missed hit stick tackles Landry is famous for nowadays. Redskins fans imagine a defense with those two stopping the run game to a halt and putting our versatile guys a-la Orakpo and Rocky at our OLB's with the acquisition of one person who doesn't require us to pay Dansby money!! how effective could it be to leave the outside to two guys who can either play DE/OLB truly and let Fletch and Davis control the coverages while they terrorize offensive line blocking schemes. And here is the good part.

 

Ma`ake is a 6-5 345 lb legitimate NT and to his right will be all 6-6 350 lbs of the athletic Haynesworth. These to alone will command double teams and leave gaping holes in O-Lines for our guys to make pro-bowl stat sheets with. My point is our front seven could be deadly with what i believe one player and the right schemes and execution. Andre Carter would get freed up alot more because of it which makes it even better. Pressure on the QB is probably the key on defense for any team we can have it to.

 

Now to discuss this safety issue...

 

Horton is the man...after watching him and seeing fan responses he was one of the most favorable guys to follow last year on a forgettable season. Now i know everyone is sick of Laron after last year and want our last line of defense to actually be able to make those INT's and those game saving tackles...now just like JC i believe this is his last chance to prove he desereves to be a starter on this team...so what i am proposing is a slight shakeup....so im going to make it short and sweet fans...again Horton is the man...but there is just a wee bit more in experience i think he needs no big deal at all just some more playing time....you make that move for O.J. ..... Atogwe that is and seeing as how Landry has struggled at FS we move him back to his (air quotations"natural position")...now just like a job interview he has his chance to make his case for the job back there with a proven player like O.J.....its simple we see the same things from last year he sits.....Horton takes that spot at FS or SS whatever they feel necessary to work best...and we can't lose.....Atogwe & Horton ...Laron sits....everybody is happy in Redskin Land with two signings!!

 

 

Andra Davis & O.J.  Atogwe!!!!!

the end.

 

hail....

 

p.s. defense wins championships.

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Interesting....

Im all for Davis as well, i advocated for him yesterday. I would love him and Fletch in the middle and Rakpo and Rocky on the outside is a pretty formidable lb corp. Atogwe??…..not sold on that move if we cant unload Landry first because i think we all believe Horton needs to be our starting strong. Also, im all for the Carriker trade, i think he would be a very good d.e for us in the 3-4 scheme that would give us some run stoppin monsters with him and big Albert……

by JONAH 31 on Mar 12, 2010 7:52 AM EST reply actions  

????

carriker is a tall lean DE….i thought we need tall and bulky DE…he is 6’6 and only 280

by back_to_the_future on Mar 12, 2010 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

This is where it gets tricky, and will lead to argument.

I was for signing Dansby and/or Rolle. 2 positions the defense have to address. Oshio will get Rolle money; both similar players, rolle is younger; and Davis is not near the player Dansby is. I like Davis and think he would help the team, but he is a 2 down-2 yr player. And now with the Carter conundrum, the team will have to scramble from scratch. Dansby and Rolle would have stabilized their positions for 5+ years.
We are where we are, so let’s look forward.
I support signing Davis and Oshio, they will help the team. McIntosh, IMO cannot play OLB in a 3-4 effectively due to speed. Having Horton or Landry on the bench just doesn’t make sense. Landry makes too much money, and Horton has too much value to be part-time players. I think one of them should go for a pick or another player. The team has too many holes to have a solid bencher, same as TE. The team has too many SSs and TEs, and not enough of anything else.
I am disappointed because we could have attacked the FA market and eliminated several needs. Now it looks like the needs will be met with stop-gap players and through the draft, which will take years and years.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 12, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

yeah...

i kind of agree about Dansby and Rolle but i still believe they’re expensive quick fixes to a team and fan base that knows all to well about that….the idea of signing solid players like davis who could defintely do the job without the money grubbing and then drafting younger talent is a much better route than again sigining more guys for these ridiculous contracts we’ve had enough of that…we can build a successful team without a blank check others in the NFL have….

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!

by Tony J. on Mar 12, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Carriker....

he only has two sacks and 53 tackles in 31 games of his career not to surre he makes us a better D-Line…

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!

by Tony J. on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

If only stats meant everything.

He’s a big DT/DE. He’s not suppose to get sacks, he’s suppose to fill B and C gaps and stop guards from blocking LBs.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

People seem to think he is better suited as a 3-4 DE

Rams fans seemed less than impressed with him yesterday.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 12, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Carriker

is more a DT in the 4-3 than a DE, so I agree with your assessment that he is prob better suited as a 3-4 DE.

by Tiller56 on Mar 12, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well...

seeing as how he’s not that big at 280 lbs kind of poses a problem…and agreed stats aren’t everything but being on the field healthy and contributing are, and in his short career he hasn’t been able to do those things

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!

by Tony J. on Mar 12, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed on that
agreed stats aren’t everything but being on the field healthy and contributing are

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 12, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

280 might be a little light.

I’ve heard he’s more around the 300-310 range. At 6’6, that’s a Monstar of a man.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean Daniels is listed as 305

You would think 3-4 DE would be his best option IMO. He’s a little light for 4-3DT and doesn’t have the athleticism to play 4-3 end. If he can get up to 300 or so he would have a good shot.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 12, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm...

how do you miss 20 or 30 pounds??? either way even if he is heavier than listed
he is a bum. we gain nothing by getting this guy on our roster.

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!

by Tony J. on Mar 12, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s young and fills the 5-technique DE position better than anyone on our roster (outside of Haynesworth, obv.). And Haslett seems keen on him, which can’t be without reason.
A front 3 of Haynesworth (6’6 350lbs), Kemoeatu (6’5 345lbs), and Carriker (6’6 305lbs) is pretty hard to push around, run through, see over, or pass over.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed...

but we will see what happens if he puts on a skins uniform i’ll search for some good in his game…a big ? mark until or if it happens

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!

by Tony J. on Mar 12, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Greg Trippiedi has an article on aspects of a Skins 3-4 defense.

He looks into some personnel issues. He throws in some jargon that some of the former defensive linemen like to hear. Evaluation the Redskins 3-4 defense, a first look – http://redskinshogheaven.com/2010-article/march/evaluation-the-redskins-3-4-defense-a-first-look.html

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 12, 2010 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

The link isn’t working

by travisjh86 on Mar 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It just

worked for me off of this post

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 12, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

A 404 pops up

but it almost immediately switches to Hogs Heaven and the article.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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