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Redskins Draft Prospect: Running Back At the Top of the 2nd Round?

I am not alone in my suspicion that the Redskins Brain Trust will look to bring in a running back at the top of the second round. The lack of what would be our high 3rd round choice (used in last year's supplemental draft to take Jeremy Jarmon, which I loved) means if we want a starting caliber (stud) back out of this draft, our best opportunity is going to be at the top of the 2nd round. Here are three guys who many suspect are bottom of the first round or top of the second round picks. Which one would you rather have?

Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech

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Dwyer finished his 2009 collegiate campaign with 1,395 yards and 14 touchdowns on 295 carries. Those of you who are native Marylanders know and appreciate Paul Johnson's spread option offense. Navy ran it effectively while amassing huge rushing totals against their opponents. When Coach Johnson went to Georgia Tech, he installed this attack and Dwyer became a force in the ACC. His yards per carry trailed off a little (especially from his freshman year when he and Tashard Choice teamed up prior to Coach Johnson's arrival), but the ACC also caught up a little to what Yellow Jackets were doing. (more Dwyer after the jump)

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Ed Thompson from Foxsports.com recently interviewed Dwyer and asked him about the physical nature of his play. Dwyer's repsonse:

"Instead of you taking hits, you've got to be able to put a hit on them as well, make sure they know you can hit them, and not just take it."

Dwyer came into his junior season on the heels of being named the ACC Player of the Year and the number one leading rusher in the conference. By all accounts, he is considered one of the top three or four backs in the upcoming draft, but due to a quieter junior season and not exactly mind-blowing performances so far this offseason, he has slipped to bottom of the first round/top of the second round range.

 

Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford

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 What is not to like about this guy? He put Stanford on his back most weeks this past year and ran over his opponents en route to building a very Sportscenter-worthy senior season. While many look at him as a pure power back, his combine time in the 40 was 4.53 - not in C.J. Spiller or Jahvid Best territory, but he really helped himself out. It is worth noting that Spiller and Best can neither deliver nor withstand the kind of pounding Gerhart can.

The 40 time was huge for Gerhart. He knew that if he couldn't break 4.6 he would most likely be slotted as a fullback, which would lower his draft status as well as his potential paycheck. Beanie Wells ran a 4.59 in the 40 and was taken in the bottom of the first round last year. Add his speed to his impressive performances in the bench press and vertical leap, and NFL teams probably won't let this athlete get much past where the Redskins pick in the 2nd round. (cough, cough, Riggins....cough)

Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State

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 This guy exploded last year onto the scene with an 1,808 yard, 19 touchdown junior season. He was injured during his sophomore year, or I suspect we would all know way more about him. At just under 6' feet tall, he brings 220 lbs of bulk to bear on his would-be tacklers. He has pretty decent hands and above average speed (he has posted a 4.49 40 before, but at the NFL Combine he ran a 4.53.) Mathews is the kind of play-making athlete NFL teams like to feature out of the backfield. He has his share of detractors though...I have read in a number of places that he is not a great pass blocker and lacks aggressiveness running inside. My guess is that his athletic ability will cause him to go in the 2nd or 3rd round, putting him squarely in Mike Shanahan's radar.

 

LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon

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 I might find myself rather alone on this one, but I kind of like this player and think he would be a good pickup at some point in the draft. (I realize that the top of the 2nd round would be a big stretch for this guy.) Think back to the opening of the college football season and that Boise State vs. Oregon game. LeGarrette Blount was considered one of the top players in all of college football, and a surefire top draft pick. When he allowed his emotions to get the better of him (on national TV), he was rightfully downgraded. I imagine it was an extremely hard year to live through if your name was Legarrette Blount. I imagine almost nobody felt a ton of sympathy for the guy. Fast forward to the here and now. The guy has done everything people have asked of him. Rehabbing the kind of image problem that stems from punching an opponent in the face is not easy. His 82 yards and 2 touchdowns in his senior year make it hard for NFL GM's to judge him. But he ran hard at the Senior Bowl, and he is a big, bruising back with a ton of upside. If we wait until later in the draft to get a bruiser, Blount would be a guy I would be happy to get.

Poll
If you had to choose from among these guys at the top of the 2nd round, who would you take?
Jonathan Dwyer
193 votes
Toby Gerhart
514 votes
Ryan Mathews
184 votes
LeGarrette Blount
155 votes

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Definitely handled everything since the KO with maturity

I can’t totally fault him for the shot. Huge game, getting talked smack to afterwards, he just let one slip. It’s totally not like he did it during the game. The Boise State kid asked for it and got it. We’d have someone to watch over DeAngelo.

by RPMontana on Mar 11, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The ol'

halfback-enforcer hybrid. Kinda likee that.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 11, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I really dont get this outrage at a punch

its a physical game and its not like he is a High School Kid bashing people 5 years younger than him. I take he hit someone approx his own size.

I know its a different sporting culture but in the AFL (Aussie Rules) and NRL (Rugby League) there is glorified history of the big king hits thrown over the years, and even though now they have come down hard with suspensions on any punches in the AFL and cleaned it up, there is still a couple of ppl every year who cant help themselves and throw a few haymakers.

In the NRL, its actually in the rules, that if you just stand there toe to toe with a bloke and fight one on one, then no action will be taken against you, but if you are the “third man in” and throw punches then you will be suspended.

As for the point of the original post, There is no point getting a RB without getting the ppl to create holes for him to run through, rightly or wrongly, I beleive Gerhardt will fall to the 4th and we should wait there for him

1st OT
2nd OG

then I dont care, let them go skill positions

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Mar 12, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d love to see Gerhart fall to the point where we are ready to take him, but I think Blount is the more realistic option (which is a-ok with me). I also think that Gerhart’s 40 time isn’t a very good indicator for the tempo of his game- we’re talking about a guy who cut weight and trained hard with track coaches to target his 40-yard dash for the combine. We’re not talking about a guy who has been outracing DBs or even OLBs to the edge in college.

That said, the back that is best suited 2nd-tier RB for our Shanahan offense is Ben Tate. There’s at least a chance that he’s an option for us in the 4th round. It would be a slam dunk for us if that came true.

by sofutomygaha on Mar 12, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Tate did well in the bench press in the combine

That indicates that he has a lot of upper body strength as well as the muscle mass to absorb hits that an NFL RB takes. His draft prospect ranking improved through out the 2009 college season.

by Jefferson1935 on Mar 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

And his run style is a little ‘stronger’ than Gerhart’s. I’m worried how Toby will take hits in the NFL.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Most mocks I've seen

have Mathews gone in the first 30 picks, but I’d go Mathews or Dwyer over the other two. Don’t feel particularly strong about this. I’ve got enough confidence in the Shenanygans Team to go with what they see is best.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 11, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

Yowsa!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 11, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Dwyer

seems like the perfect mix between bruiser and speed out of all these guys.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 11, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

Sure seems like a thin RB class this year. Usually these would be 3rd round guys in my mind, but I still think any of them could be successful.

by Mr. E on Mar 11, 2010 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

My heart is for Gerhart

Love this kid’s attitude, he is a beast and has the brains to go with it. I believe he would be a steal with our 2nd rounder.

by Erock353 on Mar 11, 2010 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

Instead of going with an unsure prospect out of college why not see if Owen Schmitt with the ‘Hawks is available, he could be the type of bruising John Riggins style runner that we’ve been missing since Stephen Davis left. Did I mention he’s a native and a ’Skins/Riggins fan?

by DCEer on Mar 11, 2010 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

More reason to solidify the line of scrimmage```~~~

I like the thought the more I think about it, having a big running back that we can build around and grind out yardage. John Riggins really had some big days when the HOGS were at the top of their game. Toby fits that mold and anyone of these guys would benefit if we can capture a star left tackle and continue to build the line. It may take a few seasons but it would sure be sweet if our draft picks turned out to be game changers. I would be happy to see us winning games against the better clubs in the N.F.L. again our way.

by mybluebone on Mar 11, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

Doesn't that go against the Shanny mold?

Doesn’t Shanahan like the fast elusive one cut and gone type backs?

by RPMontana on Mar 11, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Should fit the Shanny mold!!!

I can see it working everyone likes the type of backs that can out run and manuever. The Skins had Joe Washington back in the day to compliment Riggo. The Panthers have two differant backs that are differant type runners. Just because it is west coast offense does`nt
mean you have to have all sleek footed runners. (Mike Alstodt with Tampa, even the 49ers had two types of runners when they were winning.

by mybluebone on Mar 11, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Toby ran a 4.53

and some report that he was clocked at 4.49 or so. That can be one cut and go until you crush the FS downfield. I likee.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 12, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

I would be VERY happy with the draft if the Redskins pick an OLman in every pick except the 2nd, and take a power rusher in the second.

That being said, I’d prefer Gerhart, then Dwyer, if we have that choice. And of course, Okung. Sign JC to a three year deal, and if you still want a QB, draft the best one available next year.

by BillWard on Mar 11, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Based on team's needs and option's available.

I would not draft a RB with the 37th pick with the exception of Ryan Matthews. Matthews is a 1st rd talent and would be a great value pick if he fell. He is a 3 down feature back with the perfect blend of size, speed, and skill-set to be an instant impact player. The other backs are late 2nd-3rd rd picks. Unless the team picked up an additional late 2nd or 3rd, they should look elsewhere. There will be plenty of 4th round backs to fill their need; Dixon, Tate, Starks, Blount, possibly McKnight should all be available then.
They may also pick-up a complimentary back to Portis, if they stay with him, in the 5th,7th or undrafted; Bell, Johnson, Miller, McNeal. They will at least know how Clinton looks before the draft and adjust accordingly.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 11, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

This ain't good....
RB LeGarrette Blount to no-show before 20 scouts at Oregon’s pro day.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 11, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

better have a helluva good explanation

or he’s losing out on a lot of money

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 11, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid people...

Oregon has 2 pro days…so he may not be scheduled for this one. False Alarm.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 11, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid people as in the espn reporters...

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 11, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll galdly wait for Tate in the 4th rd.

Kid runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield, and recently ran a 4.43 at the combine.

If he is gone by that point I will take Hardesty. I really don’t want to go RB in the 2nd unless Spiller, Best or Matthews are there.

by Tiller56 on Mar 11, 2010 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

aww man

I forgot all about Montario.

Sacrilege!!

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Mar 11, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Best might be available.

He was one of those guys that had to go through extensive testing at the combine. I haven’t read or heard how his testing came out, but I’ve read where multiple teams are nervous about him.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 11, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

BEST

I know he ran one hell of 40 time….4.3 something……

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

3 concussions in a year and a half are kinda scary

especially considering 2 of them were the kinda stuff that makes you cover your eyes after you see it. He’s the ultimate boom/bust player in this draft IMO.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 11, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, I would not take him.

He has already had one major concussion, one more and his career is likely over.
Even so, the thought of it might affect his running style to the point where he loses his effectiveness.
When I saw the injury, I really thought his head popped off………Scary!
Knocked unconscience with temporary paralysis.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 12, 2010 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

3 concussions in like 15 months

From what we are starting to learn about concussions that is pretty scary.

by BayAreaBullet on Mar 12, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Would be FUN to re-unite Best and Barnes again...

Since Barnes was the one who lit him up and made him puke

by Sugar on Mar 12, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

A lil off subject but.....

Trading down our number four pick for a late first rounder and a second or third rounder along with trading Cooley for a second rounder would immediately make drafting two starting lineman ,Colt Mcoy and our running back of the future a reality versus something that we wish or hope could happen…..Im just sayin…

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Please no

I hope to god we don’t take any of the rejects at quarterback this draft

by DCEer on Mar 11, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

QBs

I think a left tackle in the first and if Colt is available in the second is a pretty decent route to go….but if we dont draft a qb im fine with that as well i just want us to add the necessary pieces to become a respectable franchise again….

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Matthews is going to be a very productive back in the league

I could definitely live with Okung in the first and Matthews in the second. I agree with Tate being a steal in the fourth though.

by ILMskin on Mar 11, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Toby Gerhart... He's white, right?

He’s a fullback. That’s the way it goes. Segregation still exists lol!

by kseandoyle on Mar 11, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

*LMAO*

Damn….im wrong as hell for findin that amusing……

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny, but it’s kinda true. I think it was 2008 when the Rams had the first white running back to start a game in some rediculous amount of years. There were approximately 30 white running backs in the NFL last year and, while they were listed as running backs, really only saw time at FB.

Поклон перед вашим капитаном!

by Knubles and Bits on Mar 11, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton Hillis

Denver Broncos. Shanahan will trot out a white guy at RB.

by CarverM on Mar 11, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao

Damn sure will….thats why i dont think hell draft a back until the 4th round….thats just how he operates.

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

PH was a beast though

Man I’d love for him to be a skin

by washfan29 on Mar 11, 2010 10:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gerhart looks to be a beast too

contrary to popular belief, white guys can be good at carrying the football.

by CarverM on Mar 11, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely.....

no preconcieved bullshit notions over here…..if u can run the ball….run the damn ball….period

by JONAH 31 on Mar 11, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

this is why

in my post above I said

“Gerhardt would rightly or wrongly drop to the 4th”

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Mar 12, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Mathews

Mathews would be at the top of this list if he played for a noticable school. This is the Chris Johnson runningback we need

by B2Nasty on Mar 12, 2010 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

Someone watches too much ESPN

he’s ryan matthews, not chris johnson.

by Mr. E on Mar 12, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Montario in the 4th?

Could Hardesty drop to the 4th? I know he was originally projected around the 4th but has improved his stock..

by DoWork on Mar 12, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

I agree.

He’s probably moved himself into the 3rd round now.
That said though, by these mid-rounds we’ll be seeing a lot more movement (maybe with us?) through trades.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

LeGarrette Blount

I’ve posted this a couple times, but it gets me excited.
Mike Mayock (college football and draft sage) describes Blount as a mini Brandon Jacobs with speed. Makes me think of those bullets in the original Mario Bros.

by SSBlitz on Mar 12, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

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