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Redskins Draft Prospect: Fordham QB John Skelton

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John Skelton
Height: 6'5" | Weight: 243 lbs.
Arm Length: 32 in.
Hand Size: 9 3/4 in.
College: Fordham
Conference: Patriot League (I-AA)
Top 10 performer for QBs in: 40-yard dash | Vertical jump | Broad jump | 20-yard shuttle
View his full combine workout (Video)

Back in August of 2009, Fordham QB John Slekton was already drawing some eyes, including Redskins' then Head Coach Jim Zorn, who were one 1 of several teams that sent representatives to scout the kid last summer. With his size and arm strength, he is getting comparisons to Joe Flacco, but it ends pretty much right there. Flacco left the combine creating a HUGE buzz drawing praise as the combine's best passer, but Skelton wasn't able to accomplish that. 

Michael Schottey of DraftTek.com attended his combine:

The second intrigue about Skelton is his arm. In the words of Danny Vermin, the ball "goes through armor. And through the victim, through the wall, through a tree outside..."

No doubt Skelton can sling it. Where the ball ends up is a bit of a question mark.

During his NFL Combine workout, I was privileged to attend the session live as a (brand new) member of the Pro Football Writers of America. It was hard not to watch the train wreck.

Skelton messed up almost every wide receiver during the "gauntlet" drill with throws wildly off the mark. Golden Tate was, arguably, his biggest victim when Skelton's buck shot altered Tate's timing on both run throws. During route running, things went mostly downhill.

In route running, the crowd learned that Skelton can make every throw, but almost certainly won't with any consistency. Try grading a receiver when the QB throwing to him is doing his best Jamarcus Russell impersonation. It isn't easy.

What is worse for the small school prospect, is the utter lack of tape on many of his games. Scouts and personnel people won't have much to go on other than the throws his displayed at the combine.

The easy out is calling Skelton a project-albeit one of epic proportions. The problem is that no QB coach has ever figured out how to teach accuracy.

More scouts' analysis and game footage after the jump:

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Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2006 74 167 960 44.3 5.75 0 6 8 0 94.88
2007 216 383 2650 56.4 6.92 44 22 11 15 127.73
2008 228 372 2605 61.3 7.00 66 15 7 13 129.66
2009 284 441 3713 64.4 8.42 98 26 10 29 150.05

Scout.com's Adam Caplan calls Fordham QB John Skelton "clearly" the strongest-armed quarterback at the Combine.

"Skelton can make any throw, and he can make it look easy," Caplan wrote after observing Skelton in Indianapolis and at a pre-draft all-star event. Skelton's downfalls are his sense of timing -- typical for D-IAA QBs -- and accuracy. Skelton is a project, but with upside to someday start in the NFL.

NFL.com analysis:

Skelton is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. He will need a ton of work when it comes to reading NFL coverages and going through his progressions as he looks for the best target. Teams may get too enamored with his arm strength and overlook how much development it will take before he is ready to play.

Tom Robinson of Virgina Pilot:

"One quarterback who is all too happy to throw for scouts at the NFL combine is John Skelton. I humbly submit I'm one of the very few media members in Indianapolis who have actually seen this 6-foot-5, 243 pound (!) righthander chuck it around the yard. Skelton played for Fordham and practically beat Old Dominion in the Bronx on Oct. 3, 34-29, by himself. Skelton threw for 402 yards that day; the first of four 400-yard efforts the native Texan turned in last season. "We tried to keep it balanced, run-pass, but we found ourselves behind in a lot of games and found out we couldn't establish the run so we ended up throwing a little more than we would have liked," Skelton recalled. "In that game we ended up having to throw, and our passing game kept their offense off the field and allowed us to win that game."

Skelton, whose name keeps turning up as another Joe Flacco-type - the small-school quarterback who started for the Baltimore Ravens as a rookie - said he doesn't get why quarterbacks like Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy aren't going to throw here. But hey, that's not his problem. The combine "is a great opportunity; you've got coaches and GMs, owners - why you wouldn't want to throw, I can't understand. It's a great opportunity to show what you've got. They're here to watch someone, so it might as well be me, I guess." 

On what it takes to be a leader:  

Skelton: It is just being on the same page with everyone.  Right now guys aren't too excited to come to practice because we are losing.  It is my job to motivate them and make them work harder.  

He could be a good QB to gamble on in the late round while the Redskins build up the OLine this year.

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man he can really sling it

he’s kinda sloppy but i didn’t even see some of those throws (could be cause the 1985 camcorder) but some of those throws on the move without have his feet set really showed his arm strength.

by skinsfan28 on Mar 10, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

With only 5 picks, it isn't a good idea to use one on such a project.

If he goes undrafted, unlikely, it would be ok to sign him. He is a 3 year project, and like the scout says; “you can’t teach accuracy.” There are other no-name(small school) QBs available who will go undrafted that have similar upside.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 10, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not saying Skins should take him...

But all picks in the late rounds are projects….save the rare cases (Chris Horton, etc)

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that the 4-5th round picks this year should be productive.

It is such a deep draft of linemen, DBs, LBs, and even receivers. I expect the brass to nail that 5th pick and be a quality player here, if only on special teams and added depth for now.
The 7th round pick is a project pick, and I hope they can address the return game with a speedy player.
For the sake of openness and honesty, I am in the camp of:- “If you’ve made your mind up to get a QB, get the best one you can with the highest pick available.”
Mid to late round QBs have the highest bust rate of any position. Better off to go 1st, possibly 2nd or undrafted.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 10, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice research, Kevin

He looks good in his ability to make decisions, albeit against I-AA team defenses. Grab him undrafted. Send an email to Shanny. I think we could work with someone of this type, as opposed to someone who is ‘high profile’, a 2-3rd rounder, who costs us much more in deneros.

by landuin on Mar 10, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

let’s not waste a draft pick here!

by aFan4Life on Mar 10, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously? This is a joke right?

Tim Tebow, absolutely blows this guy away… in the 40-yard dash, Vertical jump, Broad jump, 20-yard shuttle AND had far higher completion % AND a higher YPA. In fact, Tebow had better completion % and YPA than Bradford and Clausen… AND ran circles around their combine numbers.

Why would you look at someone like this except for maybe a backup… late rounds at best?

Seriously, some folks out there are steering attention away from Tim Tebow as a top pick… all it takes is a few media talking heads to start doubting a guy and people blindly follow. Then you have to step back and wonder who is steering the media talking heads? Maybe a team or 2 that hopes Tebow is there in later selections of the first or even second round?

Really, does no one remember Steve Young? And in many ways coming out of College Tim Tebow is better than Young (but there are a shitload of similarities). So because he doesn’t fit the “Manning” mold you attempt to make him inferior? Tim Tebow is a true leader. a Leader with a huge heart. A guy that wants to win. Something the Redskins desperately NEED.

Redskins need to start looking at the best QB coing out in the 2010 draft… Tim Tebow!

by Ed Taylor on Mar 10, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

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by Rekka on Mar 10, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Tebow is a 3rd round pick at WORST...

Skelton is b/w 6 and UFA.

"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato

by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If his only good quality is size and arm strength

We have a Jason Campbell for that. At least we know Campbell can run (but not slide) and take a hit (very well).

by mdm1185 on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the reality check.

And Jason played in the SEC. A level or two of talent higher than Skelton faced at Fordham, if I had to guess.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 11, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree we already have someone like him in JC

However he is kind of intriguing as a project. Remember, JC has seen the likes of how many offenses and it won’t suprise me to see JC remain the starter all season and do much bettter with someone like Shanny as his coach. Most likely would be a waste to take a guy like Skelton this year.

by skinsymets on Mar 11, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I could see him on the practice squad

but don’t use a draft pick on him.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Mar 11, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Not too impressed

But i see potential…I like it that once he takes his drop steps he either throws it or run with it even if there’s not defender in his face yet. He doesn’t wait for the defense to make him throw it or run it, he reacts fast. Doesn’t sit in the pocket for too long…those type of qb’s are hard to maintain because they dictate the game and don’t let the defense dictate it. I like him for this reason and this reason only but this skill is a highly regarded one and the most important aspect of a qb’s game and thats I think teams are seeing in him.

Where’s Tiller: He should be good at this

by mr.snyderhireme on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

If a team can patiently develope him over a period of years, he could be a starter.

He has all the physical attributes to be highly successful. He needs much more developement at a higher level of football. Almost like a HS or junior college kid going pro. His football acuity is low because of his coaching and competition. The Flacco comparisons are not that accurate as he was way more advanced in football skills than Skelton. The kid would benefit from going to the UFL or another minor league for a year or two. A team will probably grab him in the 5th or so because of his physical tools. Unfortunately most teams won’t let a kid develope longer than 2 years now because every roster spot is crucial.

by johnnydee83 on Mar 10, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

not accurate= dont bother
an undrafted invite only

by les boulez bomber on Mar 11, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

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