Daily Slop: Redskins News and Notes
by Kevin Ewoldt on Mar 1, 2010 9:22 AM EST
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PrintChris Samuels expected to announce retirement this week [every news outlet]
His departure echoes the absence at LT and how a top 5 pick at that position pays huge dividends
Lorenzo Alexander to play outside LB in 3-4 [Insider]
Redskins trying to keep Phillip Daniels [Examiner]
He will be 37 this year, but his size and leadership is invaluable.
Red Snapper and Skins close to a deal [Insider]
Mike Holmgren does not want a QB competition in CLE [espn]
After getting the chance to Brady Quinn at the Super Bowl for 20 minutes, I'm definitely pulling for him. Nice dude, and well, CLE will never be a threat to the Redskins.
Darrent Williams trial under way; Brandon Marshall ID's shooter [espn]
Tebow's new throwing motion is gaining believers [espn]
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WHY
do we need Daniels back? Seriously, are they gonna let ANYONE go? What I’ve looked forward to the most this offseason is not the guys we would bring in, but the guys we would shove out. Look, Daniels is a good guy, and he has been a warrior for us. But his time is up. Let the young guys get their turn. First Portis, now Daniels. WTF? I was really hoping to see us cut the cord with these guys, along with Griffin, Thomas, Betts, etc.
I think they'd have to keep one of Daniels or Griffin though.
If just for backup and rotational purposes.
why?
remember we kept Wynn last year “just for backup and rotational purposes” and let Antonio Dixon go? Then Dixon gets picked up by a playoff team (and rival), while we end up with a season long cheerleader.
My point is, at this stage in their careers, I don’t think Griffin or Daniels would be any more effective than a hungry young player. Besides, with our impending move to the 3-4, Griffin would be the oldest, slowest, most broken down guy of the bunch competing to be the backup for the ONE tackle position.
Daniels better suited 3-4 end
His size strength and lack of mobility make him the perfect 3-4 end. He’ll hold off 2 guys at the point and allow our pass rush to be effective. Plus he doesn’t have to hold the edge and we don’t have to watch him pursue like Frankenstein’s monster.
I leave for a couple of days
and it’s a mediastorm in here. WTF
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Truer words have never been spoken
guess it’s time to get back to work then.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
would have been
if I didn’t have to read some combination of whitner peppers donte julius
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
that stuff
I’ve come to expect here. Regardless of who’s “running things” I think it will take a lot more than one offseason of change to keep us from being linked to big name free agents.
But I am happy to see them still interested in Albright. I think he is largely under-appreciated. Having a steady hand at long snapper is something many teams relish. Also, I like hearing the news on Alexander. That guy continues to amaze me with his versatility. Next year they’ll be playing him at punt returner and/or cornerback.
Most definitely agreed on Alexander
he’s the definition of an athlete. I’m assuming that he’d be a backup OLB in the 3-4. Any reason why he wouldn’t be used as an ILB?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I posted somewhere else that
I’d like to see this happen. He is a beast of an athlete and would be a huge presence on the inside.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
great minds think alike
or is it two blind men always end up in a ditch?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I'm going with the "great minds"
I mean, in all likelihood…
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Daniels...
He’s the biggest guy on the roster and works for a 3-4. He has been instrumental in helping Jarmon and the young bucks.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
so make him a coach
Like I said, sooner or later you have to move on and let the young guys get some burn.
He’s the biggest guy on the roster
Isn’t he the oldest as well?
Daniels is a player and leader
You do have to get younger but not all at once.
Daniels is a player and a Redskin!
He's Randy Thomas
expect him to play 4 or less games this year.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 1, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
you had me at
He has been instrumental in helping Jarmon and the young bucks.
Another season for Jarmon to ripen behind Daniels? Let me get that, with a side of our CB corps training with Darrell Green please!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
at this point in his career
I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him line up as a strong safety
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
It just seems like they aren't really evaluating the players before making this stupid switch
Moving Jarmon and Alexander to OLB doesn’t really make any sense. Asking them to gain a little weight and play DE might make some sense in a 3-4 but to tell them to drop lots of weight and become an OLB is kindof asinine and it depletes our D-line. I’d like to get on board with this switch but it seems so Snyder-like and is clearly being decided before the coaches even fully evaluated the team.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 1, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't heard anything about Jarmon going OLB in 3-4
DE I’ve heard some mutterings. Believe me, I’m still not sold on this 3-4 thing and have stated this multiple times on this site, but I don’t wanna miss out on some of the speculating (half the fun of being a fan) so I chime in with my two cents as long as I have something halfway intelligent to say.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
it was in RI 2 weeks ago
Jarmon has been meeting with the LB coaches and is trying to drop alot of weight. It just seems like they made all these decisions without looking at the roster. Personally I don’t think either system is better than the other I just feel it’s tough to make that switch overnight as it is increasingly seeming thats the way we are going. It’s like Shanny told Haslett to move to a 3-4 and force everyone on the team into a slot regardless of whether they were a good fit.
I can see us drafting and signing guys with an eye to moving to a 3-4 in the future but to just force a change this year seems really Snyderish. Like if we drafted an OLB like Clay Matthews who could play in either system or drafted another huge DT who could line up next to Haynesworth this year in the 4-3 and later be a NT I’m cool with it. I’m afraid this switch will diminish the contributions of guys like Jarmon, Alexander, Carter, Orakpo, Haynesworth and Fletcher and from the outside looking in it seems like it’s not a very informed decision.
I was def. ranting about the skins not your opinion Rekka.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 1, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I remember this one
I didn’t look too much into him talking to linebackers coaches, as at the time they hadn’t go “a text message” from the coaches saying that they were going 3-4 at that point in time.
I’m sure by the time OTA roll around we see what his weight is we’ll have an idea as to what position he’s playing.
Maybe…
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
yeah it's just worrisome to me as I can't really see Jarmon or Alexander thriving as a 3-4 OLB
and if they lose all that weight and have to move back to 3-4 DE they are gonna struggle at that position as well. Your right though maybe I’m just jumping the gun.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 1, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Just because Alexander is ILB
doesn’t mean he’s not DT, DE, OLB, RG, LG, and probably C too. This guy backsup everywhere.
well they said OLB
Can you seriously make a case for him to be an OLB? it just seems like they made these decisions without knowing anything about the players. Is he going to be a better OLB than Orakpo, Carter, Wilson or Jarmon? Is working on OLB going to help him play DT or DE? I mean he’s fast for a DE or DT but he ran a 4.8 40 so it’s not like he’s gonna be killing dudes off the edge or dropping in coverage. It just seems like they aren’t super knowledgeable about the guys on the roster when it comes to this switch.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 2, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I hope training camp is not an eye-opener for this
coaching staff. Then again, at some point there needs to be an eye-opener, I’m thinking…
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
No, he's not better than Orakpo or Carter.
Alexander has been on the team forever as the third string for most of the line positions (and LB, and probably FB). They’re not switching his position, they’re just adding another third string backup capability. He’s athletic and has the size to do it, and he doesn’t cost much.
I guess my point is it seems like they have no knowledge of the players when they make these decisions
He clearly doesn’t have the ability to play OLB so why have him work on that. I get your point about him backing everyone up but he can’t play OLB so to have him work at OLB indicates a complete lack of familiarity with this roster. Maybe you think he can play OLB I don’t and it’s worrisome they are converting him and Jarmon.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 2, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Bayarea Bullet
. It’s like Shanny told Haslett to move to a 3-4 and force everyone on the team into a slot regardless of whether they were a good fit.
This is why I was personally against the Shanahan Hiring, I just feel that in Denver he was known for having poor defences, now he comes into Washingtont hat has a good Defence, running a 4-3, which really just needed a Ball Hawking Free Safety and a Corner who could catch, and shift the corners up to the line of scrimmage rather than 15 yards back to become elite, and instead he goes full reconstruction mode, and now we could get a good Offence with Kyle doing his thing, but start giving up 30-40 points a game
I really just wish he had bought in an aggressive Defensive Co-Ordinator who left things pretty much as they were and concentrated all his energy on the Offence
Pommylee
I was all for Shanny
as long as he concentrated on Offense and found a guy like Grilliams to run the D. I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. There was so little to fix to make our D elite but it looks like they are just chasing a trend. But when I read that they are trying to move Alexander to OLB I just feel like someone punched me in the stomach. How could he ever be a functional OLB? He’s a DT. It’s like they never watched any tape or had any clue about the guys on the roster. Maybe he had DE next to his name in some internal roster so they just told every potential DE to lose weight and become a LB. Now they are also reporting AH would be the NT. Glad we are paying him 12M a year to do nothing but take up space. I seriously see Orakpo struggling as an OLB and being traded away like what happened to Vilma with the Jets.
by BayAreaBullet on Mar 1, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
here here
if anything they should be asking Jarmon to PUT ON WEIGHT, and couple him with Haynesworth in the middle of a 4-3 (I hope that makes sense) with some rotation to DE when Daniels needs a rest,
Or alternatively, get a true Space Eating NT, who is not elite but can handle double teams, then let Jarmon and Haynesworth cause havoc from DE in the 3-4, but wasting Haynesworth as a Space Eating Nose in a 3 -4 is just insane
Pommylee
It almost makes me think they are going with
Mt. Cody with their #4 pick. He stacks the middle and AH caves the right side. Hope they have a plan for the LT slot on the OLine if that happens.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
stole my thunder SSBlitz
all reports are Cody may even go bottom half of second round, now if we could trade our 2nd rd pick (which remember with the new format 29 teams would have had 20 hours to sit there and covet if there was a guy on the board they desperately wanted) for a mid 2nd round pick and a top 10 of the 3rd rd pick, then traded the 3rd and our 4th for a mid 2nd rd pick also, then we get a quality Guard and Mt Cody, whilst taking Okung at 4
now I know that sentence went everywhere, but if you can understand it I think it is a good idea, put it this way, I know what i mean anyway :)
Pommylee
Cam Thomas in the 4th, Terrell Troup in the 5th,
and Linval Joeseph in the 7th are all Nose Tackles that could occupy space and provide quality depth at a difficult position. Thomas projects to be a full-time NT, but he will be heavily sought and may not last past the 3rd.
its bs we are even talking drafting defensive linemen. our offensive line IS horrible. we have no tackles at all and need a right guard and it would be wise to start looking at center.
heyer is a backup only. we need two tackles in first two rounds
by les boulez bomber on Mar 2, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
classic
great Post Rekka, that is the ultimate definition of why Sporting Blogs exist
Believe me, I’m still not sold on this 3-4 thing and have stated this multiple times on this site, but I don’t wanna miss out on some of the speculating (half the fun of being a fan) so I chime in with my two cents as long as I have something halfway intelligent to say.
Pommylee
Sad to see Samuels go, he's been a great skin.
Too bad he never saw the team success that he deserved.
It looks to me that by keeping most of their defensive personnel, that they are going to push all their resources into the offensive side of the ball.
I am skeptical of Alexander at LB, but hopefully he pans out.
Daniels is a proven, and provides depth. This indicates to me that they will not address D-line this year other than a possible Nose.
Tebow will go top 40, he impressed the big boys in Indy, I think the Patriots may even call his name.
Shanahan does run a tight ship, not hearing anything from the organization without his clearance. I have no idea what to expect in the next two weeks.
Several months ago someone posted a list of Ted leonis do's and donts for running his Capitals team
Does anyone on here know where I can find it.
KICK ASS every day!!!
http://www.hogshaven.com/2009/2/26/772915/ted-leonsis-shares-his-ten
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Thanks for taking the time to do that for me. I think its sound advice.
Thanks again.
KICK ASS every day!!!
i missed this post first time around…but WoW…so spot on
by les boulez bomber on Mar 1, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions
so annoying u can't embed their videos
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
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