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Adversity Makes Great NFL QBs

 

For all of you that want to draft Bradford at 4 or Tebow at all I will pose one question to you. How many top level or even starting NFL QBs came from national championship contending teams? Not very many. Think about it. Farve, Warner, Roethlisberger, Romo, Flacco, Gerrard, Josh Johnson and Delhomme all came from small schools who couldn't have won anything even with an undefeated record. Brees, both Mannings, Rivers, Brady, Rodgers, Cutler, Orton, Schuab, McNabb, Alex Smih, Matt Ryan, Hasselbeck, and even Stafford came from teams in power conferences that didn't have enough talent to put around the best college qbs at the time to compete with the top teams in their own league.Cassel was on USC but never saw the field.

 So what quarterbacks did play for elite college teams? By my calculations this list includes our own Mr. Campbell, Jamarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, Mark Sanchez and Carson Palmer. Campbell, Russell and Quinn have all been disapointments since being taken in the first round. Vince Young looked to be going in the same direction until turning it around a bit with his role in the Titans second half run. Sanchez played great in the playoffs but was one of the worst QBs in the league statistically as a rookie during the regular season as the Jets rode a dominant defense and run game, plus a weak end of season schedule (including the Colts backups in a game they needed) to the playoffs. Palmer may be the one exception to my rule as he was an elite QB before his injury though he has never looked the same since. Vick could be put in this category as well, but thats a whole other discussion.

My point is that I believe that the college years are vital to the development of young QBs. The top tier schools still get the best QB prospects, but if your team is more talented than the competition's at every single position, a young quarterback will never learn how to put the team on his back and carry them when the need arises. QBs have to know how to respond to a loss. There are no easy wins in the NFL. There are no UL-Lafayettes or Florida Centrals on the schedule. Young QBs have to learn to learn from their mistakes when things go wrong and then shake them off. When you blow out your opponents every week but then lose it at the end of the only game that really matters at the end of the season you can't learn this in the same way. The QBs from smaller or less competitive schools had to battle every Saturday of the season, which I argue, prepared them better for Sundays.

I'll end my rant with this. In the NFL things don't always go your team's way. The starting quarterback is looked to as the leader, the best player on the team or at least the highest paid player, the guy who makes plays and puts the team on his back when need be. If have five other future first round picks on your team, how can you ever learn this? How can you ever believe that you are truly the leader of such a team, especailly with the huge personalities of the big time college coaches to consider as well. I think we can see a common thread here with Campbell, Russell, Vince Young, Sanchez and Brady Quinn. Off the chart physical attributes, no doubt the best talent in the country coming out, seems to have it all, fine if they have a great team around them, but will any one of them ever be considered a truly elite QB?

This is why I'd prefer Lefevour or maybe Jevean Snead around the 3rd (assuming we get a pick through trading) or 4th over reaching for Bradford or Tebow. But what do I know, I live in China right now, which puts my Intelligence in Relationship to Proximity of Landover Quotient (the undoubtable logic of the IRPLQ) far in the negative. Its been 6 long months typing this one word a day but I can proudly hit publish now. What do you guys think about drafting QBs on dominant college teams? I think its looks like a big no-no when looking around the NFL today.

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well written

If English is not your native language then you did a great job.

I do think adversity is neccessary to make a good player but I think it can come in many forms – on the field, family struggles, money problems, health issues. Of all those I think playing on a less than great team is the least painful. Also note that the struggles can come after a player gets to the NFL – look at Steve Youngs career where he took a very unusual path to becoming Joe Montana’s successor.

by aFan4Life on Feb 9, 2010 8:02 AM EST reply actions  

wo shi mei guo ren

Thats chinese for Im an American. Im just teaching English here for a while. English was my major in school, so Im glad you approve.

by samthemantis on Feb 9, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

why did it take 6 months to write the post?

To they work you 16 hours a day or something?

I was trying to figure out exactly what you meant by
""But what do I know, I live in China right now, which puts my Intelligence in Relationship to Proximity of Landover Quotient (the undoubtable logic of the IRPLQ) far in the negative. Its been 6 long months typing this one word a day but I can proudly hit publish now. "

I’m not an expert on writing by any stretch of the imagination though so don’t take any offense!

by aFan4Life on Feb 9, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It was basically

I’m from PG county, which somehow made him an expert. Still not sure why Mantis took so long to write the post. Good job/point though.

I think there are exceptions all over – Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, etc. but I think coaches and their systems are as much to blame. I agree when you have the best line, the best RBs, the best receivers, you have a definite advantage. Other than quashing an upset, there doesn’t seem to be much that they have to do for their team but dish out the ball.

However, if you look at the competitiveness of say the SEC, Big 12 and even the Big Ten coming on, there is a lot of pressure for these guys to perform. Every major program is expected to compete for the BCS Championship – every year – not to mention their own conference crowns. So its’ a mixed bag in my opinion. I think that the NCAA game has so diverged from being a preparatory league for the NFL that entire means of play and skillsets are required at the NFL level that were never really required before. Many people, big program or small, just cannot adapt to that.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 9, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry

It was an old joke on here from last month where mr snyderslapdog or whatever his name is made a comment about knowing more about the skins because he could see fed ex from out his window or something

by samthemantis on Feb 9, 2010 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

This reads like an argument to draft Claussen.

I know it wasn’t your intention, but he fits the mold too.

by SSBlitz on Feb 9, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

An argument to

AVOID drafting Clausen. All for that!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 9, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Kerry Collins, Vinny T, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Montana, Tom Brady,

just to name a few off the top of my head all came from Championship contending programs.

by Tiller56 on Feb 9, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

ok

so I definitely underrated Peyton’s team in college. They were right there three years in a row. Brady was 20-5 in his two years starting at Michigan, but he stilled had his own form of adversity, being 7th I believe the depth chart when he arrived. I read that he actually hired a sports psycologist to help him deal with these issues. Rodgers transferred in as a JUCO and led Cal to an 8-6 record his first year then they lost only one regular season game his last year there. Still I see that year there as Rodgers carrying that team and beating up on a down PAC 10 and losing to USC, their only real threat in the conference at the time. Plus Cal isnt really a perennial power house. I think that was more how good Rodgers was that year. Anyway, I dont know, if the best recruits go to the schools with the biggest football programs why isnt that translating into more of these guys being succesful in the NFL? Theres something to it I believe.

by samthemantis on Feb 9, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Adversity.

Well written post, by adversity in college isn’t the only thing that matters. How about hitting the dirt every other play like Campbell this year did. You HAVE to give this guy real credit for being the toughest quarterback in the NFL. PERIOD. There was no one tougher, no one who improved more, and you definitely can not crack on Campbell. You made some great points, assuming we will draft a QB, but I’d much rather not…

by BigOLinemen on Feb 9, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

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