Time to Rolle the dice on a new FS
by Tiller56 on Feb 28, 2010 4:23 PM EST
Email
Print
It seems the recent rumors are about to come true. The Cardinals are likely to release veteran safety Antrel Rolle, making the FS a hot commodity on the FA circuit. This news should come as a shock to many Cardinal fans after first having to hear about the retirement of Kurt Warner, and then learning that their all-everything linebacker Carlos Dansby would not be franchised for a 3rd consecutive year, making him an unrestricted free-agent-to-be. Rolle, who was converted from corner to FS last season made the Pro Bowl for the NFC West Champion Cardinals. His departure should leave a huge void in the Cardinals Secondary, but should fill another void for some deserving team. He will however not come on the cheap. He is likely going to want a 3-5 year deal comparing to the top 10 Safities in the league.
With all the talk of moving Landry back to his more natural position of SS, and not having a true FS on the roster, picking up Rolle as a free agent could be well worth the price tag for the 27 year old former Hurricane.
64 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Sean Jones is a Free Safety who could be just what we need at a much lower price tag
Jones is a pure free saftey and wont come as heavily priced as Rolle. Jones would also come in with a chip on his shoulder which is something out a lot of our past free agents haven’t had. I would hate to see us overspend on a player when there is another player who could do just as good.
Didn't Sean Jones flop with the Eagles last season?
by BayAreaBullet on Feb 28, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
He had very respectable numbers
I watched him a lot during the season. He still has the range to be successful, he tackles well, and he has good hands. qualities that could definitely help our secondary.
by JeanBaptiste on Feb 28, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t want Sean Jones, he flopped big time for us.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Mar 1, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Not really Jean - take another look.
http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=3&surn=J&playerid=1780
He did not do good against any of the other NFL East opponents including the Redskins. Look at the game by game breakout in the link above.
by Jefferson1935 on Mar 1, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but Rolle isnt what you think he is
http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=2&surn=R&playerid=2225
Now you take a look. Rolle will have a couple good weeks and then rebound with some horrible performances.
exactly
the mentality of “Yes, we should pay whatever we need to get a young talent like him at ____” has repeatedly been a disaster for the Redskins and it needs to follow VC out of the organization.
Most of the disasters were because
it wasn’t young talent, but severely past prime time talent, if you get the pun.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
y is everyone so worried about money when there isnt going to be a cap this year its not like its your damn money if the damn guy is good and snyder is williing to spend all his damn money who the hell cares let the rich man do what he does best. i say if that will make a winning team let him and the rest of the team go to town spending every last dollar snyder has.
by notta_fan_of_sissies on Feb 28, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions
Because while 2010 will be uncapped
that isn’t going to last forever, and we don’t want to get caught in a bad salary situation when the cap returns in 2011 (I doubt there will be a lockout). Besides, do you really want to be the Yankees of the NFL? Thats pretty douche-y.
In the NFL spendin a lot of money doesnt mean success
You have to draft well to be successful. Its been proven.
by JeanBaptiste on Feb 28, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Just replying to the guy who thinks
we should throw a ton of money at everyone and try to buy a championship while there isn’t a cap.
It won't. That's why.
i say if that will make a winning team
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
If the team only signs 1 big time FA, then let it be Dansby.
If Dansby is gone, then Rolle would be the man. Antrelle would solidify the secondary for the next 5 years.
I would rather in a FS through the draft
but Being as though we only have 5 picks and bigger issues….I can’t be totally against getting Rolle
by mr.snyderhireme on Feb 28, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions
That's the problem, only 5 picks.
Have to use 2 or 3 of them on O-line, need another Rb, Lb. The team might use a pick on a QB, and need secondary help. The more free agents we can get to fill holes, the better the team will be going forward.
Antrel Rolle ≠ "Just another high-priced FA"
Safeties that can adequately handle coverage are excruciatingly hard to come by, and we definitely need one. Who wants to waste mid-round draft picks on guys we think might pan out when our O-line is routed like the maginot line day in & day out. I think rolle would be the inverse of Snyder’s mistakes in the past (hiring guys riding into the sunset who either aren’t hungry to perform for the Redskins or don’t have it in them anymore at that point in their career). Please sign Rolle and let’s draft O-line thru-&-thru
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Mar 1, 2010 2:12 AM EST reply actions
put one of our corners back there. cant some of them tackle ok?
by les boulez bomber on Mar 1, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
LBB made a point
like our secondary tackles. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I don't mind signing FA's when they are young and talented.
I would perfer we stay away from guys whos’ best football is already behind them, and are simply looking for that 1 more big payday before they ride off into the sunset.
I wouldn't mind Rolle
Frankly, I would’ve rather had him than Rogers to begin with. Turns out neither of them are top-10 worthy corners, but Rolle has at least found his niche at FS.
I think my biggest concern would be what number he wears. I know he was great friends with Sean Taylor, but I would really rather not see than number on anyone else.
Addicted to FA
http://www.hogshaven.com/2009/2/26/772915/ted-leonsis-shares-his-ten
Trying to cop the best free agents on the market every year shows a striking lack of awareness about what it takes to build a team that has a chance to succeed over time.
I like Rolle, I like Dansby. They are great players. But the Redskins need to rebuild the culture of the organization as much as they need to rebuild personnel. Draft young guys. Give them a shot to succeed. If they perform, reward them with big deals to demonstrate your loyalty to Redskins football. Add core veterans when you have a competitive young core that who have played for the Redskins and have true loyalty to the Redskins brand.
Stop writing checks to the hottest new guy on the market, stop coveting the stars of other teams, and only then will people stop treating the Redskins like a team to go to when you want a payday.
Excellent point
on rebuilding the culture of the organization. Given the non-Cap year, though, we have the opportunity to pick up some key players – as long as we pay attention to the character issues and the exorbitant contract issues, we should be OK. It’s the draft where we really need to work it, though.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Admittedly, football is a bit different from hockey in that there are more players who play a large role in the game. This necessitates, to some extent, a FA strategy where you “plug the gaps.” You are right that we have the opportunity to pick up key players.
But targets like Julius Peppers and Darren Sproles are, IMHO, just awful.
The trick to FA is to sign role players, guys who won’t be part of the core and who won’t breed resentment and create apathy in the younger, hungrier players we should be drafting and giving opportunities to. Draft the core, reward the young core (why the hell didn’t we sign Pierce and Clark all those seasons ago?), then bring in vet role players to put the team over the top. Basically every consistently successful franchise in the NFL does it this way. Agreed, drafting is what’s important this year and every year.
100% agreed
free agency is always an expensive option and really is best used by the team already deep in the playoffs to put them over the top…ie, vikings and favre last year
by les boulez bomber on Mar 1, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions
ironically, we blow our wad trying to get into the playoffs. basically, broke and loaded with condoms with no date lol
by les boulez bomber on Mar 1, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Seen it a hundred times
next thing you know, your daughter’s knocked up and your money’s missing off the dresser…
new guy's in the corner... puking his guts out
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Yeah I came in here to say this
Landry’s “natural position” is on the bench behind Doughty and Horton.
by Palace of Good Play's Golden Toilet on Mar 2, 2010 4:49 AM EST up reply actions
Rolle on Pass Coverage
stunk up the joint for the Cardinals. Look again – http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=2&surn=R&playerid=2225 Most of his negative was due to pass coverage. He was rated 67th amongst all safeties.
Look at the stats for Ed Reed, Kerry Rhodes, Nick Collins, Brodney Pool, etc. for what the better FS look like. This could be carried further with a little effort, but this is enough to make the point. Gansby on the other hand is worth the bucks.
Rolle has cover skills, but he's not a CB.
That’s why they moved him. Rolle recently started playing free safety, he steadily improved his game, and still made the Pro-Bowl. He should continue to improve as he hasn’t peaked. He has mad skills, and put in a steady defense he should excel for 5-6 years.
I agree Dansby first, but if they go Rolle also……..our defense will be HUGE.
No more MEami players
I’m sticking with Landry and Horton (hopefully he earns his starting spot back).
he had it the week he got hurt
Chris Horton has re-claimed the starting job at strong safety.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I would sign him for 3-4M a year
because he would fill a need that we can fill in FA. I wouldn’t sign him for 5-6M(what the top Safeties get paid and what he will probably get).
the FA difference this year.
In the past our reckless free agent spending has crippled our team. This hasnt come so much to the under performing of the big names though I think, but what we gave up to get them. What has hurt the team the most is giving up draft picks (see Lloyd, Taylor, Duckett, etc.) and not having the cap space to resign our own guys (see Pierce, Clark, even Dockery). This year with the Restricted Free Agent designation being extended from 4 years to 6 of NFL service, and the lack of cap, we could take a chance on some of these big names to push our D over the top while retaining all of our young role players and draft picks. If we can add Dansby, Rolle, and/ or Peppers to fill the holes we need to make our 3-4 truly nasty, then all of our draft picks can be spent on OL and one for a young RB. Or we could add Sproles too and use 5 picks on offensive lineman!
just b/c they don't cost picks doesn't mean expensive FAs don't hurt us
when are we going to stop building a team around veterans who came to DC to get their last big contract?
Peppers is precisely the kind of player we need to stay away from.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
so let me get this straight
we have a roster that contains Landry, Horton, Moore, Holmes and Doughty and we need to bring in another free agent, because we can’t find two starters amongst the five we have been carrying on the roster all year? Are we never going to develop our own players? is it always going to be a win now mentality?
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
Agreed
Let the young guys play! The Skins are not a good team right now, and I’m OK with them being not a good team for a few years if it means they will rebuild the culture of the organization in earnest and develop a young core.
This win now mentality may be an NFL-wide affliction, but I would take 5 down years followed by 5 excellent years over 10 straight mediocre years any time. I’m 21. The Skins have been terrible since I was 3, with the exceptions of 1999, 2005 and 2007 – when they had borderline playoff squads. I know it’s an unpopular sentiment, but let’s REALLY stink for a few years, sell off or drop the old vets and egos and right this sinking ship.
I'm 23
I’ve been a die hard fan since I could remember and I’ve always wondered what it would be like if the skins were dominant.
for us young guys
all we have are old videos and a sniff of respectability’s ass in ’99.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
I believe there are probably a half dozen
players on this team that are bringing the locker room into a real negative state – a lot of which was brought on by the previous coaching staff.
I think the Shanny’s are going to turn a lot of player’s attitudes around and move the ship in the right direction. Everyone else will be jetsam.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
SIGN ROLLE OR DRAFT ERIC BERRY!!!
just do whatever it takes for me to not have to see landry or doughty play FS ever again!
I'm not booing Stephon Heyer, he's trying hard. I'm booing the fact that Stephon Heyer plays for us.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Hogs Haven
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
