Daily Slop: Redskins Are Going to 3-4 Defense
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 8:30 AM EST
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3-4 defense is coming to DC [CBS Sports]
Players have been told privately that it's coming. "I think the 3-4 is a good fit," Haslett told reporters in a January teleconference. "Guys like (strong side linebacker Brian) Orakpo, he could really do it. (Defensive tackle Albert) Haynesworth could do it. (Middle linebacker) London (Fletcher) has done it before. (Weak side linebacker) Rocky (McIntosh) could do it. (Right end Andre) Carter could be a good rush linebacker, but he's a good defensive end, too."
DeAngelo Hall to work out with Darrell Green [Skins Blog]
My first thought: Can the whole secondary go too?
Jason Campbell talks with Matt Mosley [espn]
About not throwing the ball down field enough: "I don't know how anyone can say something like that," said Campbell on Thursday. "Don't you think I wanted to throw the ball downfield? By the time I looked up, I was getting hit. I'm certainly hoping we have an opportunity to make some big plays next season."
Titans C Kevin Mawae to hit open market [nfl.com]At 29 years old he could be an upgrade from Rabach, though Casey is a locker room leader and the scheme caller for the Skins offense. Dude is 39...not 29. Math Fail.
Meet new Redskins DL coach Jacob Burney (Video) [Skins Blog]
RG Brad Butler, 26 yo, shocks Bills and retires [espn]
Would rather work with Congressman Jack Kemp
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While it's obvious she was pulled aside before going through the metal detectors, to say she was embarrassed because she was patted down in the glass area in front of everyone is LUDICROUS. Who hasn't gone through this. At least she's not the typical American these days to sue for millions of dollars.
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Not thrilled about this.
How many years will it take for guys like Orakpo to adjust to covering a TE. Burnt city. How many games will it take for every other coach in the league to figure out that all our LB’s are terrible in coverage.
Could it work?…..sure, give the current LB’s a year or two to adjust and become better at it and also give the team a few drafts to get some players that fit it better. The real question is will Haslett be around in a few years when it finally looks like he wants it to?….see where this going.
This is what I’ve really feared, the Offense will get better over time and the defense is almost undoubtetly going to take a hit. Why doesn’t he just take an already good defense and tweak it to where it can get even better?
I agree
It’s sort of like the whole random switch to the west coast offense. These schemes should be chosen based on the strengths of the team not just to make some sort of statement or do whats trendy. Switching to a 3-4 is fine but its one of those things where there has to be a commitment to it over several seasons. Like you said we can’t even be confident yet that the new regime will be around that long.
by SkinsOsTerps on Feb 19, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna trust the coaches here until I see it fail...
I don’t think its exactly like the west coast offense switch… mainly because I have more faith in the current coaching staff to bend the scheme to player’s strengths.
Also, in a 3-4 Orakpo will probably cover TEs less than he would as a 4-3 LB. How often do you see Demarcus Ware in coverage? Sometimes, sure, but he’s a pass rusher first and foremost. And I have to say that both Rocky and London are decent cover backers. Rocky especially.
+1
Orakpo = Ware in our 3-4 scheme.
McIntosh would cover a TE more, and I am more comfortable with his coverage. Dansby would look pretty good on the strong side at OLB.
Not sure where Jeremy Jarmon would fit though. Get heavier and play DE maybe?
someone said
that when he was drafted he was already a good fit for DE in a 3-4
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
He would definitely need to add some weight
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
The beauty of the NFL
These players have the best trainers and dietitians in the world and can lose or gain the necessary weight over the weekend.
Especially after what they did for Mike WIlliams
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Redskins Insider interview with Jarmon:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jarmons-ready-for-any-defense.html
Jarmon is trying to drop his weight down from 277 to 266 or so. Jarmon as a rush linebacker? Is he fast enough?
by Jefferson1935 on Feb 20, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
i am going to trust 15 years of misery with a sprinkle of mediocrity until i see them succeed. willing to bet i end up with more cash saved and fewer ulcers.
dan snyder sells hope and delivers NOTHING
by les boulez bomber on Feb 19, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
+1 million
Or should I say, trillion…? :)
by Dixie's Football Pride on Feb 20, 2010 1:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well
I railed about this for several weeks, but folks like JeanBaptiste were adamant that we were a nose tackle away from the next Steel Curtain Defense. My only positive spin on this is that it might be more pre-draft posturing to deflect our true intentions. Then again, if they draft Brandon Graham, we will be well on our way to a solid 3-4. ….maybe.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Looking at it from my perspective
When I started to look at it, I believe that we have a defense that could run the 3-4. Brian Orakpo was already playing as a rush linebacker. Rocky McIntosh may be more suited for the 3-4. Albert can play any D-line position he wants to and be successful. I still think London Fletcher can play in the 3-4 and he will have a chance to prove it this season. I will admit that the 3-4 is more suited for our younger defensive players. However this allows us to build towards the future. As long as the defensive coaching holds up, we should see another Redskin’s defense in the top 10.
by JeanBaptiste on Feb 19, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
At least they don't seem to be going at this
in a half-assed way. And they still have the option to flex back and forth from 3-4/4-3 looks.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Mawae
was born in 1971, started his career in 1994. He’s 39 years old, not 29.
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
Although
we could use him to mentor all the young blood on the O-line over the next few years…
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
Then hire him as a coach
don’t have space on the roster for 39 year old linemen.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Bullocks...
thanks..will fix.
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Usually you switch to 3-4 when LB is a strength.
I’m not a fan of this development.
Antonio Pierce
Sign him for 1-2 years while developing inside backers to replace London Fletcher and AP, who hold the fort.
Haha
Nothing like old white men talking about needing pills for their manhood and awkwardly dancing… And I could be wrong, but does Phillips even know YMCA? He never actually does it, but just points around the room. Maybe he’ll come out and dance as we celebrate the skins’ 4th super bowl.
Also, I really like the fact that Campbell is talking like he doesn’t doubt he’ll be back next season. Stability, even mediocre stability, at that position is needed right now.
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
Made my morning
Call now and you can win a dinner with Jimmy and free weeks supply of Extenz!
They must go hand in hand… so to speak.
Good for Brad Butler
Pretty sure he read this article.
line play lends itself to lots of little hits. The HITS data suggest that, in an average football season, a lineman could get struck in the head a thousand times, which means that a ten-year N.F.L. veteran, when you bring in his college and high-school playing days, could well have been hit in the head eighteen thousand times.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Must Read
OTL’s (ESPN) story on Myron Rolle is a must read. Impressive young man that any team is going to be lucky to draft.
I'm reading it now...will likely fan shot it
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Is it on the homepage?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Front page
Top Stories Bar. OTL: Myron Rolle Rhode to Success.
gave me shivers
I’ll be looking at him during the combine
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Link
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=100218/myronrolle
"I am excited about starting 2009. We are looking forward to an outstanding year. We're on our way. We have a lot of healthy players this year." - Vinny Cerrato
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 19, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
DG28 and Dhall
Finally!!
Justin Tryon worked with Darrell Green last summer and now people (like me) are calling for him to be the full time starter.
D.Hall’s game can’t get much worse so this has to be a good thing.
I like that DHall is showing initiative
to better himself during the offseason. He’s a fiery guy who could step up and be a leader for this defense.
hopefully Tryon's going back
and trying to convince Barnes to come along. This could be a good group if they work hard at it. With DHall at the helm
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
If they all work together during the offseason
it could be a huge step forward for that unit. Send ’em all to Green!
It's keeping my spirits up.
I think Shanny & Co. are having some very frank and direct and, hopefully, meaningful talks with the players in terms of what is expected going forward and what will get you a one way plane ticket to unemployment-ville.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Remember what DHall got brought in for
the guy has never been a serious cover corner. He got brought in for the turnovers. Not saying it’s good just saying why I wasn’t that shocked when he got stiff armed by Jake Delhomme.
by SkinsOsTerps on Feb 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
REALLY?!?!
You had to bring up the tackle!?!?!?! Great, now my rage has superseded my determination to actually do work today. I guess all I can do now is read posts here.
Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!
Hall and Landry
Are both opportunistic on turnovers, but their aggressive demeanor shines brighter when the QB has pressure and only a second or two to decide. The 3-4 should bring this masked pressure and allow Hall and Landry to jump on routes instead of getting burned on a pump.
this is another big red flag. once again!
a perfect example of an arrogant coach forcing his system onto a team despite the players on staff. it will take a couple seasons for this all to transition. and the head coach will be 60 by opening day. this ignores the fact the defense is pretty good.
eff em again
by les boulez bomber on Feb 19, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions
i like the AH comment…conveniently ignoring the fact that he doesnt want to play in that defense alignment. 100mm tied up on a man who played all last season out of shape and no reason to show up
by les boulez bomber on Feb 19, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions
You are over-reacting
It’s not about the name of the position Haynesworth plays, its about what Haynesworth is allowed to do.
It's not that he doesn't like the 3-4
It’s that he doesn’t want to play a space-filling nose tackle in a 3-4.
Its' just possible
that he could redefine NT position to an all out collapse of the pocket from up the middle. Not quite sure what that means for others on the line and LBs. Just a hazy thought at the moment.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Surprised that nobody has picked up on...
…the fact that Brad Butler will not be working for Jack Kemp, per se…because Kemp passed away last year.
Come on, people – current events!
by Dixie's Football Pride on Feb 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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