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I have enjoyed the last couple of days reading some of you guys posts. What seems to amaze me is how my words are often twisted and turned. I have posted a fair amount of Fan Posts, and have posted on numerous threads since I have been on HH. The problem that alot of you have is that you do not take all of my posts into consideration when you are forming a opinion about  LJP's comments. I understand some of you just don't like LJP, that is fine with me. I did not join this site to win friends or make enemies just state my opinions / facts (LOL) and listen to other peoples opinions / lies (LOL). 


Ok, now lets look at what I really want, instead of what my fans / haters on HH say that I want for the skins. 

To the couple of people that keep telling me that the offensive line is sorry, and that we need offensive linemen please stop. Where have you guys been all season? Have you not read my many threads about how sorry our Offensive line is? I was called every name in the book for bashing our O-line. How many of you same people posted crap about our Offense failing because of Jason Campbell, not because of our O-Line being sorry.  Now the same people are talking about drafting mostly O-linemen, (LOL)   In my opinion several of the O-linemen available are similar in skill level. So can any one really see taking Okung at #4 since he is not  heads above the others. I say trade down if possible if not get the best available player.

What about our coaching? Did I not thourougly bash Jim Zorn this year for being incompetent, bad play caller, soft, not allowing the best players to play and not getting respect from certain players.(allowing certain players to run the locker room).  etc, etc. How many of you made up excuses for him? How often did I read the poor player execution  excuse on HH for Jim Zorn ? (too many)  Now for the other coaches Greg Blache was to predictable and did not blitz he handicapped our defensive players. He kept us from winning a couple of games by playing soft not blitzing ( ex.Tony Romo first Cowboys game). Our special teams coach sucked as well. I am curious do they teach blocking on our special teams because I saw very little of it this year. How or why would you keep Randle el or Rock retuning kicks. I am sure if Devin would have had the whole season to return kicks he would have ran one back. He is by the way the closest thing to a play maker that we have. Maybe Alridge could have been but who knows. Maybe this is his year?     

The  using inexperience as a excuse for a WR is only partially true. How many operations did Kelly have on his knee within the past year or so? Malcolm Kelly will be a good receiver for us when his knee is 100%. Devin is already a stud in waiting. By the way Devin did not come on because of Moss getting double coverage. He performed because we finally started targeting him. At the start of the season Moss was the first read on WR routes for Jason. Since we all know that Jason had very little time to throw the ball. We also should know that the person that was the primary on that play would more then likely get the ball thrown their way. But this changed and we started looking at Devin as the primary WR. Prior to Sherm " The Bingo Caller" Lewis we would have still been forcing the ball into Moss. Why did we force the ball to Santana? Because Jim Zorn was chicken shick and allowed a few veteran spoiled brats to run the team. (ex. Moss) Can anyone not say that Randle el was just taking up space most of the season? How about Rock Cartwright or ARE on returns.  By the way I Call Sherm "The Bingo Caller' as a term of endearment. I do this because when we hired him, I praised the hire as alot of people on HH bashed Sherm Lewis, LJP and took up for Zorn. How many of you guys talked about how badly Zorn was treated. In the meanwhile the same people were calling a man (JC 17) that was getting beat to death every game garbage. ( LOL)

Let me set this play maker thing straight. We need 1 fast WR/ , 1 fast RB, 1 fast / tackle breaking KR/PR,  with a couple of new starting O-linemen we will have a good offensive. I have never said we need to spend our whole draft on play makers.

By the way when I say you guys, those people know who I am talking about. I am not talking about everyone on HH. But if the shoe fits please wear it.     Your friendly neighborhood ..... spider man  LJP .... 

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Why did you write this???

LJP, you seem like you’re defending yourself against the entire blog site, and you don’t have to. People are going to disagree with you just for the sake of doing it. I admit, you’ve had some good points on a few things. I haven’t agreed with you on all of them, but I still respect your passion.

People are hating you because it’s fun. Nothing more. Nothing less. You speak a lot, and when you do, you make yourself a target. I’ve gone back and forth over the smallest things on here that generated from “word play”. What can I say? People are assholes.

But if you feel what you feel, speak on it, stand by your convictions, debate it with valid points, and let them think what they want.

by J.Cash on Feb 18, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

J.Cash, Hey I get a rise out of getting under some of these guys skin. I just wanted to point out how some of these people have flip- flopped on several issues.

The key word is some people not all. I decided against cut and pasting old statements of some of these guys.. It is just amazing how often the same people that bash me have been wrong in the past. LOL By the way I was not defending myself, I was just throwing this back up in their faces.

by LETJASONPASS on Feb 19, 2010 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d like you to cut and paste old statements

by travisjh86 on Feb 19, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

LJP,

We already have Thomas and Mitchell who are both sub 4.4 guys. We have Aldrige as a RB/KR. We could use an every down back though with break-away speed.

by Tiller56 on Feb 18, 2010 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

The Truth is you hear nothing but yourself

and do not take into consideration other opinions

Campbell has not shown to be a leading QB, through leadership demonstrated by a 4th qtr drive to win the game or by taking the Redskins to the playoffs. Campbell remains the best option in 2010 at QB unless the Redskins can get 2 picks for him in the draft. Will he be successful somewhere else, most likely but the extra picks are more important than Campbell.

The offensive line we agree on

The Redskins have all the play makers they need to be successful, yes they could add some but for the last 10 years all they tried to do through the Draft and FA was sign play makers it’s time to concentrate on the “core” the Offensive line

Coaching you are wrong, Zorn was in over his head which was not his fault but Vinny and Danny for hiring him. The players played for the Owner, Zorn never got control because he is not a head coach.
Blache played conservative it was his game, and I bet 22 other teams defenses would like to play that bad.
Lewis was a good addition, but he did not do all you attribute to him such as no longer passing to the #1 receiver, Moss

by dr WNC on Feb 18, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

+1000

and I’ll get a shoe too because it’s a badge of reason coming from you LJP.

Where’s my shoe!?

by aFan4Life on Feb 19, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Quarterback at the #4 pick:

IMO, if the Skins take a QB in the first round they need to trade Jason for at least a second round pick. I agree with many others that “Campbell remains the best option in 2010 at QB unless the Redskins can get 2 picks for him in the draft.” The Skins would still need to get an experience NFL QB in this case (I and others have mentioned Rex Grossman and his experience with young Shanny as an advantage). The Skins would then need to go with the best two OL picks available in the 2nd round. There will be some, but not the prime LT prospects that could be had a the 1st rd. 4th pick. Together with at least 2 free agent O-linemen, the rebound from the 2009 season would be well on it’s way on the offensive side. Allen has already beefed up the roster in a lot of other positions of need since he has been on board.

With a 3rd round pick, the Skins could get a decent free safety. I’m not sure whether that could be done in the 4th round or later.

by Jefferson1935 on Feb 20, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

My only problem with LJP is...

you are not open-minded at all. This is a discussion board….not a “my word is god” forum. I think a lot of us…..get a feeling when we comment on your topics or posts…..we get attacked instead of being able to have a discussion. I have given up on you and just gone to full time dick! I have noticed a few others have joined in recently. You talk about people flip-flopping on how they feel about things…..you are right…..because of the intelligent discussions that go on, on HH. That is the whole purpose of the site. I know you will come back with something…..but you will just be showing your colors. All I ask….is be more constructive….fully read and understand someone’s thoughts and reply thoughtfully whether you disagree or not. Not everyone is an idiot because of their opinions…..maybe they don’t have all the views that someone else does. When they get more info….their opinion will naturally change. It’s not your place to submit people! I enjoy reading a lot of the regulars on here…..and I don’t agree with all of them…..not even close with some….but you can have a discussion with them. Can’t do that with you. This isn’t an attack on you….I mean only to enlighten you……this post appears to be a defense of yourself….which means you feel like you are being misread. I am just trying to tell you why!

by shvd98z24 on Feb 19, 2010 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

+1000

“you are not open-minded at all”.

Maybe I’ll get another shoe!

by aFan4Life on Feb 19, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

oh thank you.... Oracle of Truth

holder of the opinion divine and martyr to the cause of the all knowing, though you walk amongst the unfaithful because they do not understand the words of the prophet. I would praise thee, though I am unworthy to be in thine prescence, much less thine hearing.

If only thou wouldst create thine own site, where thou shalt reign supreme above all others, knowing that they have forsaken the true path and have not seen the light, even as thou hast shown the way by the prophesy of thine posts. Lead us, O’ Oracle, take us to that place of higher calling and understanding so that we may bask in thy wisdom and be nourished from your thoughts…..

oops, be right back, nachos are done…..

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Feb 19, 2010 4:25 AM EST reply actions  

how about if I give you a different body part

lets say a finger, care to guess which one?

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Feb 19, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't fault you for

bashing the OLine. I faulted you for bashing Buges based on ridiculous notions of him sucking up to Dan’s pucker hole. Just wanted to set the record straight.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 19, 2010 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Here here!!

I don’t know where LJP got the idea that people didn’t realize our line was in trouble. Before the season started I was hoping everything would be okay and people would stay healthy despite the odds, but then Mike Williams made the team and I knew we were in for it.

by travisjh86 on Feb 19, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I always looked at Big Mike as

a two year project, minimum. First year he loses the weight and remembers how to put his helmut and pads on correctly (shoulder pads first). Playing as he did will either accelerate his ability to get back into NFL shape/skills or quicken the coaches’ decision as to whether he deserves a slot on the roster. I’ve not made up my mind as to whether he will make it or not; but will leave it up to the coaches. You are correct, though. It was a desperate move to play him as much as they did.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 19, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Big Mike

probably won’t be re-signed by the new regime on principle.

by CarverM on Feb 20, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Scott, Mike is a good drive blocker when he is healthy. He was having problems with his lateral movement especially after the injury.

I think he has a good chance if he keeps working hard, he is extremely strong. I will agree with Zorn, Mike Williams is a mauler.

by LETJASONPASS on Feb 20, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is safe to assume that you were partially if not fully refering

to Scott E and I for defending Zorn when you were bashing him? if so i’d love you to copy and paste some of those arguements because it will only highlight the fact that you don’t read other peoples comments.
You would say he’s a terrible coach and we would say we should keep him if we’re able to win out or almost win out and stay competitive in all games (this of course was after it looked like we maybe turning things around when we beat denver almost beat atlanta and the saints)

Anyways the reason you claim to be at the for front of everything that the team does is you make every single claim there is to make ie we have 5 draft picks and you want 1 fast rb 1 fast wr 1 dynamic PR/KR and you want to address the offensive line. When was the last time a team picked starters with all of their draft picks?

It’s like if I claimed that all this team needs is an awesome O-line a Great QB WR’s and RB’s that can break tackles and have the opportunity to take it to the house a solid defense and a top 3 PR/KR, thats all we need to win and some of you will disagree with me but all we need is all these things and we’ll be a great team!! FIST PUMP!!

Your posts never include a way to do everything you claim we need to do and if they do they don’t address your previous claims of what we need to do.

by skinsfan28 on Feb 19, 2010 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

+1000

LJP doesn’t get it that there’s only so many draft picks and fixing the OL isn’t going to happen with 1 or 2 picks.

(another shoe maybe?)

by aFan4Life on Feb 19, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Choices

Yes, it’s a matter of priorities and choices. We cannot do everything we want. We only have a few high draft choices, and I have read that there are very few free agent O-linemen (or QBs) available, and almost all good ones would require us giving up draft picks – very undesirable. I think we should ignore (keep) the defense (adding a linebacker in free agency), which is good and ought to be better with better coaching, and concentrate on the offense. The O-line is the biggest need, then QB. Ideally we could get a high pick for JC and use it to draft a QB (Bradford, Claussen or McCoy?), leaving the #4 pick and some lower round picks for Okung and some other O-lineman. If we can’t get a good enough pick for JC, keep him (as much as that pains me).

by Donnio1234 on Feb 19, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Please explain this to me again...

How does a starting QB in this league, who is so bad he must be traded at any cost, merit receiving a high draft pick? The logic in play here just boggles me. Oh wait…did I say logic?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 19, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I know; hence the "again"

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 19, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

System

Campbell is a Joe Gibbs QB
Joe Gibbs is not coaching, and while adjusting the system to the player is great I believe QB is one of those where the player has to be made for the system being run.
Can Campbell be successful in Shanahan’s offense assuming it looks like the old Denver offense yes, but is that the best option if the Redskins can get extra picks

by dr WNC on Feb 20, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the way

I remember it. I was giving Zorn the benefit of the doubt because the team did not tank on him. They ended up not playing well in many respects, but they were trying and trying to overcome injuries and very strange defensive and offensive game strategies at the time.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 19, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

skins, Can you tell me, we can not find a fast RB, fast PR/KR/WR ? Between FA and the draft anybody can find 2 or 3 players. By the way we do not need a awesome O-line.

We will have a good team, with a average O-line and the additions I have talked about. By the way their is a reason that I don’t include a way to do what I claim on every post. Most of the time I have already posted it in a thead or on a preveious post. The body of my work speaks for itself, I am not going to repeat mself but so many times.

by LETJASONPASS on Feb 20, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right

Now if I could find the damn kitchen sink the Redskins would have J Cribbs….

by dr WNC on Feb 21, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny

when my Mom use to say that when my brother and I were growing up it was said with a note of finality and imminent doom. When LJP says it, it has the ring of an infinite loop.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Feb 22, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes I agree with you LJP because you do make a lot of valid points at times

But from what I have seen you do tend to kind of take others opinions the wrong way. I don’t know how things were going before I got here so I cant make a comment on that.

by BrandonO on Feb 19, 2010 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Dude, for real?

Did you really refer to yourself in third person in that post? I dont know how many people you were talking about in that post but im sure you were refering to me partly. I dont really care. If you are tired of people “attacking” you, stop putting yourself out there like you do. You argue with anyone that contradicts your statements. Its just silly how bad it gets sometimes.

We could be standing outside on a clear day and you would argue that the sky is brown when all you have to do is look up and see that it is blue. You bash anyone that holds facts in your face.

Thomas was possibly the #1 choice WR for one game, just one. He only did well cause it was a package that the oncoming Defense had not seen. When the next game came he didnt do squat. That game was nothing but a trickery in offensive strategy. Again the better corner was against Moss because he was the WR that until then had shown the most trouble for other teams. The Saints D was not prepared, when they made the switch to to Thomas Moss because the first look for deep burners… On top of that he only made 2 more catches than Moss.. No clear pull away in responcibility… But you wont except that. May not even respond to this post… Who cares really? You have all the answers right. I mean he only caught a ball in 9 games. Thats someone we need to depend on..

The Defense… How can you even bash the D? Those guys for the most part played they asses off. The strategy for the D was Bend not break. SOme guys played spots they could not handle.. I agree with that. Some overly paid guys were not in shape to play. Just about every game they were on the field more than our offense. I dont know about you but pushing athletes around and sprinting down field for 35-40 min a game is a bit tiring.. We didnt blitz because taking line backers out of the middle was too dangerous with the crappiness of our safeties… i say again If you know nothing about how to design plays or reasons to call or not call blitzes you probably should not talk about it… We did pretty well when both our DEs got 11 sacks a piece… Again you know better dont you…

I agree with you on many things you have to say but most of the time I think you say things just to start a large argument on here. I think you are one of those people that just like to have yourself at the center of attention.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 20, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

***correction***
The Saints D was not prepared, when they made the switch to to Thomas Moss because the first look for deep burners…

The Saints D was not prepared, when they did finally make the switch to Thomas, Moss then became the target on the deep burners.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 20, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

milc, Who is really attacking who? Who is really the straw in the glass? (LJP) LOL

Milc, Not Blitzing Tony Romo cost us the first Cowboy game, maybe you missed it. By the way allowing our crappy safeties to stay in coverage for a long period of time is stupid. If you don’t put pressure on the QB he will pick you apart. The majority of QB’s in the NFL will pick you apart if you never blitz that was our problem. That was also a reason for us not getting as many turnovers on defense. But this is football 101 i thought you knew this. That is the reason Jim Haslet is saying that we will play a more aggresive style of D. Why would we have Haynesworth playing base gap assignment footabll, versus running stunts mosts of the game. Why do you think Haynesworth was pissed and called Blache out? How often do you recall seeing any of our D -linemen running stunts?

by LETJASONPASS on Feb 20, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop saying maybe I missed it!

I didnt miss a thing this season. Yes I would have loved to see this team blitz more. Blache’s game plan was to play conservative. When you blitz, you leave people open down field. BEND BUT DONT BREAK!!! The Saints play with the same exact idea. How far did they get? The blitz does not stop a QB from picking you apart. Blitzing causes the QB to dump off under coverage. Heavy blitzing teams fall victim to play action and screens. If we blitzed our line backers it would have left our junk safties alone in the middle of the field. We know how well they tackle in the flat. If you blitz yes you will cause pressure and yes you my cause the QB to make mistakes, occationally. More times than not you will get bitten if you have a crappy back field. FOOTBALL 101.

Why have Haynesworth play doing base line blocking assignments? Why so Orakpo can have a great season (#2 defensiveplayer of the year, probowl). So Carter can have a great season, So Fletcher can have a great season (Probowl). Haynesworth is double teamed most plays in a game. Him being blocked the way he is causes someone else to get through.

Tell me this… Could you really see Haynesworth, a guy who couldnt go one series without oxygen pulling stunts? Could you see him athletically line switch left before the ball is snapped? Before you start blasted on how you would like to see things go, think about why Blache chose to play his team the way he did… He chose to play conservative because our team could not handle it it would have killed us.,…

Another reason why you dont blitz with last years team… BEcause our offense sucked… If you have a heavy blitzing team and they end up playing for 40 min in a game they would not have any gas in the take in the fouth quarter. Blache knew that the offense was a failure which means the D will be on the field more. Now asking me again why we didnt blitz. I would love to see us demoralize a team like the Ravens have done in the past. I just understand that between the Offensive team sucking and our backfield being suckasses you have to play it safe.

Thanks abd have a blessed day..

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 21, 2010 7:27 AM EST up reply actions  

**correction***
Why so Orakpo can have a great season (#2 defensiveplayer of the year, probowl).
  1. ROOKIE defensive player of the year

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 21, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Just a few points
would you see him athletically line switch left before the ball is snapped

He actually did a lot of moving around the line on the Titans so I wouldn’t be surprised. Also The whole point on the oxygen mask is silly. The whole reason why they even have an oxygen mask is for people to get back in the game quicker and have more energy, so the whole oxygen mask thing is taken out of context a lot.

The blitz does not stop a QB from picking you apart

Can’t say I agree with that. Tell that to the 08 patriots. I will say that obvious blitzes are easy to pick apart.

If you have a heavy blitzing team and they end up playing for 40 min in a game they would not have any gas in the take in the fouth quarter

While I somewhat agree it’s no excuse not to blitz. The ravens have always been a heavy blitz team and until recently have not had an offense to support it. And I doubt that Blatche didn’t blitz because of the offensive issues.

by Nobetterthenbob on Feb 21, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I was not

Talking about Haynesworth from the Titans. I was talking Haynesworth from this year. He is not the same man that he was there. He got his paycheck now and he will get it without playing hard and working out hard.

ABout the blitzing statement you made… Think you proved my point. The 08 Patriots are prime examples of how the blitz can do more damage than good. Brady was always quick on the dump off.

Blanche obviously did Blitz for Fletcher to have the numbers he had…. The obviously blitzed when Orakpo and Carter had the numbers they had. What do you mean you doubt it that Blanche game planned around the offensive issues? He would be a moron if he didn’t. Your telling me that he planned on the offense giving his D decent breaks. He knew what kind of team he was coaching. He knew a lot more about the calibur of players he had than any of us do….

Now on the Oxygen issue.. Your right it does help the players catch they’re breath easier. but on the 3rd poay of nthe game is a little rediculous.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 22, 2010 6:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Against the Giants

Haynesworth played 2 plays and then when was on the sideline having an asthma attack. I realize it was cold, I was there, but I’m not gettting paid tens of millions of dollars with a professional nutrionist and strength and condtioning coach…THAT was ridiculous…

by wildinout on Feb 22, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Um no...
The 08 Patriots are prime examples of how the blitz can do more damage than good.

Yeah maybe until the superbowl…where the giants destroyed the pats with the blitz. Ever since that game, teams heavily blitz the pats and with good results.

He got his paycheck now and he will get it without playing hard and working out hard

Can’t say I agree with that either. We’ve completely changed his style of play since his stint with the Titans. He’s still a very hard worker. His production is debatable but he still works his ass off.

The whole issue with the defense is that blitzing won’t help when the corners play 15 yards off the receivers. The int in the superbowl is a perfect example. Manning is blitzs. Makes a one on one read but the CB is in position because he’s playing up close, makes the pick, takes it to the house. You change this aspect of our D and I guarantee we score a few TDs on defense. This is where Blatche failed and why we weren’t a top defense this year.

by Nobetterthenbob on Feb 22, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The 08 Patriots are prime examples of how the blitz can do more damage than good.

Yeah maybe until the superbowl…where the giants destroyed the pats with the blitz. Ever since that game, teams heavily blitz the pats and with good results.

How can you pick one game? It was not even a great defensive game. Yes I agree they got in Brady’s face and caused him to force alot of miss placed balls… The Giants got lucky and everyone here knows that.

The int in the superbowl is a perfect example. Manning is blitzs

I dont think that it was the blitz that killed Peyton Manning in that play. I think it was the pressure of making a play that caused the INT. He threw across his body and didnt see the CB coming back to make a play.

Now with our D. We are gonna see many extreme changes this year. There were a million chances this past year to make some INTs. Many chances to even run a few back. However, out safties and CBs have bad hands. How many INTS bounced out of they’re hands. Dont even get me started on the Saints day INT < fumble < Saints 40 yard Saints TD.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 25, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

How can you pick one game?

I didn’t pick one game. I’m saying that ever since that game, brady has not been the same. His numbers are way down, no where close to being at the godly level he was at and the superbowl year. And to say the giants got lucky is beyond insulting. I hate the giants just like every redskins fan, but I’m not gonna ignore the fact that they shut down the greatest passing offense that has ever been put on a football field. They played a hell of a game and they made plays where it counted. The only play that I consider to be lucky in that game is “the catch” or whatever they are calling it. That’s about it. Everything else was game plan and execution.

I think it was the pressure of making a play that caused the INT

Even if that is true, which IMO is not, the Saints dialed up pressure all game and gave Peyton different looks. Do you honestly think the blitz had no effect on Peyton’s game or even that play? How many times has peyton made a 4th quarter comeback? He’s got 31. We all know that he’s pretty much the king of the 4th. So you are telling me that the best 4th quarter QB is in the game and he messed up because of the pressure of the play? Come on now, that doesn’t make sense. Truth is, he had to hurry to make a throw because of the blitz and the CB sat on the route, he didn’t make a comeback he was literally sitting there. The pressure of the blitz made him make a poor decision.

Moving along to our team (I think we’re getting a little too caught up in the SB) I’m going to agree with your CB statement.

There were a million chances this past year to make some INTs. Many chances to even run a few back

However, we did not put our corners in a place to succeed and have more chances at this. They do poorly at catching the football, so why limit their chances at it? Playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage on almost every play is not really smart. When throwing against the blitz you need to make quick decisions and quick throws, you don’t have much time to go through all the progressions, so most throws are pretty short. but if we are playing well off the ball, there’s no point in blitzing other than to sack. There is so much room for a WR to make a play and the blitzing is useless. So we took our CBs out of the play that is suppose to cause a QB to make mistakes in the passing game. That makes no sense.

by Nobetterthenbob on Feb 25, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You know why they play 10 yards off the line?

Our Corners and safties suck. They bite on double moves too easily. Thats why they play that far. I dont like it at all. I think you need to be able to bump that WR on the line to disrupt timing. I totally agree with that. I am talking about all the times that the ball hit out DBs or Safties in the hands and they drop the ball almost everytime.

Our team was totally unprepared and horribly coached all season.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 26, 2010 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright we agree

Yeah I was frustrated with the defensive secondary all season. I think we all were.

by Nobetterthenbob on Feb 26, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

milc, A well planned blitz and defensive strategy, stops the majority of QB's in the NFL from picking you apart. As far as I know their is only one Peyton Manning. Maybe you missed the Cowboys vs Saints game.How bad were the Saints looking

because of Dallas blitzing ??

By the way it takes alot less energy to run a stunt then to bull rush every play. But hey this is common knowledge. So Haynesworth would have his momentum going before he made contact with a player. Firing off the ball and making immeditae contact and driving against that player is alot more energy consuming.

by LETJASONPASS on Feb 22, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I didnt miss shit

Even if you pull a “stunt” you are still bull rushing. You are just bull rushing from a different spot. Plus Haynesworth was too out of shape for continuous blitzing games. The skins did blitz and they did do stunts. MAYBE YOU MISSED IT!!!!

The Saints got handled because they thought that Ware was gonna be out. They fell for the oldest trick in the book. the whole week the Cowgirls faked that Ware was injured. They got complacent at blocking for him to be in. The Cowgirls winning might have had something to do with the 440 yards on offense. Miles Austin getting 139 of em… MAYBE YOU MISSED IT!!!

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Feb 25, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhh.... Thanks

I was confused there for a min. Glad you corrected me… Cause I thought a stunt was where you TRY to get better angles on the O linemen. However, If you are an out-of-shape 300lb D-lineman (Haynesworth), pulling a stunt is kinda like watching an aircraft carrier do a doughnut in a pond. Like I said, its just changing line possition and usinging pure size to off balance the O-lineman (aka.. bullrushing).

Dude seriously, why are you aguing with me? Haynesworth was seriously out of shape. Pulling stunts with him repeatedly was out of the question. The D strategy was simple, streight forward, watch your lane and dont make any mistakes. Other than our secondary it worked well.

You can sit on this board and try and boast about how great of a football mind that you really think you are. Half of your points are self defeating and rediculous.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Mar 3, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

milc, What does whole man mean ? What does half a man mean? By the way I agree A.H was out of shape. But it takes more energy to push against two men, then it does to push against one man, that is off balanced.

I never knew that talking football is wast boasting. By the way I am a football mind when it comes to D-line play. I am not saying all aspects of the game, but I know D-line play and technique better then most. (thanks to a great coach)

by LETJASONPASS on Mar 4, 2010 6:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I am not saying that it doesn't take more energy...

Im just saying that it was not the plan for the D. They did stunts and they did blitz but they did not do it often.

You have to make do what you have to play with. If the cornerstone of your D line has no gas in his tank then you cannot over load the rest of your line because of it.

You may think you are smart with the Defense but your not thinking about the talent that our team had at the time. Not saying that they arent talented just saying that they were who they were last year. The coaches knew what we had to play with better than you or I did.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Mar 5, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

milc, I understand we had some secondary issues (coverage). Lets take Orakpo for example. He is a good/great pass rusher. He is not as good right not against drive blocks are man on man blocking.

Why would we handicap him by forcing him to attack his man before he can make a move towards the QB. It is hard to keep the O-linemen that is blocking you off balance like this. He always has the advantage in this scenario. You are reacting to what he is doing to you, versus him reacting to what you are doing. Look at Freeney he attacks the blocker from so many different angles. By doing this the blocker is always off balance. He can not use his size adavantage against Freeney because if he trys Freeney can catch him off balance. But if Freeney had to use the same hand placement on the blocker on every play he would be easy to block beause he is undersized. The blocker could just drive into him and blow him off the ball because he would know Freeney would be comming at him the same way every time.

by LETJASONPASS on Mar 5, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

What im saying is and what I have been saying is that heavy blitzing for last years team was not gonna happen. The coaches knew that the Defense would be on the field longer than than the offense. To have them blitzing heavy for 40 min was not gonna happen. AH was a prime example as to why. He only had enough gas in the tank to hardly hold off his own role on the line.

Our offense was so bad our D had to plan aound playing long games on their side of the ball….

Nuff said

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Except JC17

Even without stunts the Redskins offensive line did not give JC time to pick a team apart or was that JC taking too long..

by dr WNC on Feb 21, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

JC's value

I don’t see any contradiction. On the one hand, I think Jason is, in terms of basic ability, average at best, not the QB of the future, and I would like better. But he is a big, tough, young, but experienced QB who many think can get better, and definitely not ‘bad’ or ‘lowly’. We could live with him for another year. On the other hand, he’s worth what somebody will pay for him. And this year the FA QB field is pretty weak, and JC looks pretty good in that group – somewhere in with Orton, Pennington and a few others. One writer rated him behind the first two, another seemed to put him first or second. Given that, and past practice, he must be worth a second round pick to somebody, and possibly more. One writer said the Redskins were going to tender him for a first and a third round pick. Probably optimistic, but possibly a starting point for a trade, and suggesting we intend to keep him. But somebody could bite – who knows? Remember, there are a lot of different opinions out there. Some could think JC was a real franchise QB. Stranger things happen all the time. Why did we pay Jason Taylor $8 million even though Miami wanted to get rid of him? And remember also, how you rate a player could depend on how well you think you can him – system, etc. There could be a team just drooling at the prospect of getting JC (like Oakland – I just read that they are going with Russell at QB – the worst QB I ever saw in the NFL).

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