5 Redskins Players Mike Shanahan is Grossly Misusing

This is just so depressing. I thought for sure that Fred Davis would have his breakout year and before a household name throughout the NFL.

I promise I’ve been saying the same thing all year! The coach we should’ve hired is doing the sunday pre-game show (Cowher) and our QB of the future almost led a comeback last week. Jeez our front office sucks. So much for “Boldly Hoping”…smh Here’s 2 mini-Shanny being groomed for our HC position in 2013….

As far as the 4-3 goes – if it’s not broken why eff wit it? Weren’t we like top 5 D last year (I’m almost certain we were top 10)?

Anyway, Kev your a G. I agree with everything you said….and +1 for the use of a table on a football blog post. hahaha

Sounds like he’s in a marketing meeting….

So, looking at this table below

I’ve seen a lot of bootlegs this year and I think its more of a thing with the offensive line than the play calling. Both have been suspect at times though.

We’re 3-4 now. They aren’t going back. The time for debating the merrits of the change is over. Looking forward, get some dlineman, they’ll be fine.

Fred Davis, I was pretty much ready to call him a bust. I’ll agree it’s been frustrating that he hasn’t seen the field more.

Brian Orakpo is not being misused. He’s rushing the qb, a lot. I just think that there’s 0 other pass rushing threats so he’s getting taken out now. In short, offenses are focused on him. He has gotten sacks both standing and in stance.

Andre carter. No doubt he’d be better in a 4-3. But I don’t think he would recreate last year. He’s old, and I think last year would of been his last hurrah anyway. He would of been better than he is in our current system though. But there are going to be some casualties like this anytime you switch systems.

Albert? Who can say with this fruit. He’s either blowing up double teams and destroying plays. Or he’s lying on the ground taking naps in the middle of a play. I don’t blame the staff for not trusting him more. I used to stick up for him, not anymore. He never shows up when we need him most. I don’t think the coaches are using him incorrectly, they just aren’t coddling their entire defense to his personnal wants.

Mcnabb. Nope, not being misused. The word you’re looking for is ABUSED, behind our shitty offensive line. 99% of our offensive woes are because of that line. Don’t fool yourself. You think that the shanahans all of the sudden can’t figure out the nfl? Kyle was tearing it up last year. Talent, especially at the o line, is the root cause of our teams woes.

So in conclusion I agree that carter and davis aren’t being utilized like they should.

I’d rather have the shanahans and haslet than zorn and blache. Haslet has shown the ability to change and adapt his defense. He’ll get things figured out. Shanahans just need some offensive lineman.

And I think that all of your suggestions would improve this team. A defensive line of Carter-Kemo-Hayneswort-Orakpo would be a lot of fun to watch. Bring in Phillip Daniels off the bench and you have a great rotation at end, still allowing Orakpo to play LB in certain situations in order to stack the line with pass rushers.

With Cooley and Davis on the field at the same time, you always have 2 tough receiving threats while also allowing for multiple looks. The other team bringing pressure? Keep a TE or 2 in to block. The other team blitzing uncontrollably? Run some TE screens or motion one out to the slot for a quick slant. I guarantee the running game would improve if this were our base package. We could still effectively, if not more effectively run play action, allowing for bootlegs which would still open up the deep pass. Teams would be more concerned with covering the middle of the field that it would open things up more down the sidelines.

The 3-4 is a great defense, but only if you have the pieces. We aren’t even close. I like the idea of slowly integrating it as you build your team to fit the scheme, but trying to fit these players into this scheme is just a mess. I thought that maybe they can do it, but it is so obvious that it is a huge fail. The players aren’t going to talk against it. The coaches are too proud to admit they are wrong. Somewhere in the mix of all this, communication has not been happening. Whether Haslett or Shanahan is too afraid to bring it to the forefront, I’m not sure, but someone needs to step up and say listen, we can be a much better defense if we start doing things differently.

This isn’t a bash on the players either. They are playing their tails off. They are just out of position.

…and they’re gonna stay with that system till the day they give up the game. They may tweek the system, but it’s theirs’ and they’ll stick with it.

At first, when they inherit a team, they try to put the players they have into the most useful places in their system. All the pieces may not fit perfectly, but the system is what they believe in, and they believe they will find the perfect pieces as they go through their tenure. They then go out and find those pieces and rebuild (there’s that word) the team to fit their system.

Successful coaches don’t change their system to suit the players. They change the players to suit their system. This process, when the system is sound, normally takes 3-4 years to become successful. It usually takes that long to find all the right pieces.

Seriously though, we’re ALMOST saying the same thing. Yes, the Glory Day ‘Skins did rack up the passing yards, which gave birth to the Smurfs and the Posse. (and the Fun Bunch, really) But it all started with the Hogs roadgrading whoever was in front of them for Riggo and his succesors. No, they didn’t inherit the Hogs, but they did get most of them in that draft. And it was only after Riggo and the Hogs went to Gibbs and said to out it in their back that he started playing smash-mouth. Even Gibbs admitted this at Russ Grimm’s HOF induction last year.
Truthfully, Gibbs doesn’t get enough credit for the “Air Coryell” system. He may not have invented it, but he was a huge part of it, applying some of the same stuff he used at San Diego State. Both of those were offenses HE ran. Offenses he lorded over and knew inside and out. Which is what got him the job in Washington. Beathard always said.he thought they were bringing Air Coryell to the East coast.

Anyway, to me the history is pretty clear. “Redskins football” in now way resembles “Air Coryell.” And if Gibbs had stuck to his original system, we never would have gotten “Redskins football.”

"For Brian to have 8.5 is kind of amazing because people are sliding to him, chipping him – they know where he’s at. You always need 2-3 [pass rushers] to have a good defense."

 that quote is from Jim Haslett, talking about his defense. I’m interested in how he expects to get 2 to 3 pass rushers between now and next season.
Had we stayed with a four man defensive line, here’s who I think we could have counted on as pass rushers-
Orakpo
Carter
Albert Haynesworth
Lorenzo Alexander
Chris Wilson
Jarmon
Phillip Daniels

Orakpo Has 8 .5 quarterback sacks and Haynesworth is second on the team with 2.5, this is almost laughable. I’m interested to see how they fix this in the off-season.