ESPN's Gene Wojciechowski maligns Redskins release of Hunter Smith
Powerful stuff about the release of the veteran punter. The author points out that Smith has only mishandled 2 snaps in 12 years and that in spite of the Redskins being inept in so many other areas, they cut a high-character veteran who had been doing a decent job punting. Worth a read if you can stomach it.
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Don't like the tone of this article
This wasn’t Smith’s first go-round with the ‘Skins. We might be ranked 8th overall in punting this season, but the yards per punt average has been steadily slipping in the past six games (and it’s not because our offense is moving the ball and punting to nail the other team inside the 10, either). That botched XP wasn’t Smith’s fault any more than it was Gano’s, that goes on the snapper … however, it made it easy to look at a weak position that could be easily adjusted, and Hunter the Punter just wasn’t getting it done there at the end.
Strikes me as another nick on Shanahan's credibility
I thought cutting Hunter was pretty tacky and ruthless given the circumstances, but maybe somewhat defensible, because the misplay could have been due to a lack of concentration, and coming on top of a mediocre performance, enough to say “let’s try somebody else”, more for next year than this year. But then Mike comes out and says (paraphrased, not a quote), “well, the firing had nothing to do with the missed snap, but was because we weren’t happy with his punting, especially the hang time”. I think, aw, come on man, it’s just a coincidence? You gotta be kidding me. It seems to me that you can’t automatically believe a lot of what Shanahan says – he dissembles, is “cute” and deceptive – remember the Haynesworth, Thomas, Dockery, McNabb and other incidents. It’s not lying, more just “playing games”, but still a big difference from Joe Gibbs. You could believe everything Joe actually said. Of course, a coach cannot tell too much, but he can avoid lying in a lot of ways (e.g., Joe talked platitudes and happy talk).
By the way, I could see them giving Rex Grossman some playing time, not because they are down on Donovan, but to see if Rex is a competent backup and maybe even sometime starter next year. That’s going to be important in deciding whether to draft a quarterback next year.
…"well, the firing had nothing to do with the missed snap, but was because we weren’t happy with his punting, especially the hang time" and other comments that appear as white lies…are a big red flag waving high in the air.
how do you trust someone who lies about things he doesnt need to lie about? you cant…which is why he wont build trust
by les boulez bomber on Dec 16, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Redskins Post Game show - CSN
There was no Post Game show Sunday – do they just stop it when the Skins are eliminated from the playoffs, or did something happen? I know Brian Mitchell was very critical of Shanahan on the Haynesworth suspension.
I think it had
More to do with the Maryland game being on.
by CJHutch on Dec 16, 2010 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
this was the take-home message for me
"It’ll get darker without stand-up guy Smith, who deserved the same second chance Gano and Sundberg got. But that’s how it goes in the NFL and in cold, cold Shanahanland."
I really don’t understand why Nick Sundberg gets a free pass on this, he’s been shaky on a lot of the snaps this year.
I also don’t like the WAY that this was handled, who the hell would like to be fired and told your desk was already cleaned out for you? That’s not classy at all.
Could we get a better punter/holder? Absolutely, but probably not until the off-season. So tell me where is the harm in finishing the year with Smith and letting him compete for his job in training Camp next year?
I keep hearing about how everybody’s going to have to compete for their job, but I’ve seen very little of it in training camp and only a slight bit more during the season.
I just wish there was some consistency on this team in how things are handled-check that, there is consistency, it’s just consistently crap.
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I could care less
about Hunter Smith. But I’ve always thought Shanahan is full of sh!t. And I thought the FIRST stupid move he made was not resigning Ethan Albright. If you have a guy who’s been consistent there for YEARS, why not bring him back? They originally said it was an age thing. C’mon. The guy was still gettin’ it done. And you.expected me to believe that you care about age at LING SNAPPED, when you intentionally got older at EVERY SKILL POSITION?
I keep saying this. Shanahan is a gigantic upgrade over Zorn as a coach. But his personnel decisions are gonna hurt us.
by CJHutch on Dec 16, 2010 7:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
A houseplant
is an upgrade over Zorn as head coach. You’re setting the bar pretty low when you say, “well he’s better than Zorn”. Unfortunately, we’ll never have a hot assistant coach come here (with a good GM) because Snyder will always want to “make a splash” to sell tickets, instead of what is best for the future of the team.
by killianskid34 on Dec 16, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You Shanny haters can't see the forest for the trees
I was glad we gave Hunter the Punter another shot this year and he is a class act. But his punt average LAST season was 29th in the NFL. This season his kicking average has declined to 40.5 making him once again one of the worst punters in the league. Combine that with his age – 33, and the fact that we are now officially out of the playoffs all adds up to make releasing Hunter Smith now the right decision for our organization. We now have 3 more games to test out future prospects.
It’s time to move forward.
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dude- seriously…that punting average stat doesnt mean shit. first of all…without pads…we all know these players run 40 yards in 4-5 seconds…without pads. we know this because every player at the combine is tested and that is what they run year in and year out.
so if you can kick it 40 yards with 4-5 seconds hangtime…you are punting to your coverage ability. kick it further or in less than 4 seconds then you are out kicking your coverage- that would be a problem
kick it shorter or having it hang in the air for over 5 seconds…and you are underkicking your coverage- that would be a problem
hunter smith regularly kicks it 40+ yards on a full kick with at least 4 sec hangtime. so shanahan is either lying or doesnt understand a basic concept.
now what can seperate kickers is when you have the opportunity to down it inside the 20 without giving up a touchback. some kickers can make it stop dead in its tracks. hunter seems to stick out in my mind as at least average but not spectacular. ironically, even that does not matter because the skins defense can not stop anyone and is just as likely to give up a 99 yard touchdown drive as they are an 80 yard td drive!
considering our situation…it would have been much better to wait and bring in some competition in the offseason. he did it last year before realizing his eye for talent was worse than the last guy lol
by les boulez bomber on Dec 16, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Distance isn't everything, but neither is hangtime
hunter smith regularly kicks it 40+ yards on a full kick with at least 4 sec hangtime.
The average punter in the NFL averages about 4.6 seconds of hangtime per punt. Hunter is also below average in total number of punts within the 20-yard line and almost last within the 10-yard line. Even his LONGEST punt (56 yards) is almost dead last in the league.
Hunter is a below average punter who’s skills are declining. With the season already lost, it’s time to find his replacement.
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thank you foir consistency
Its wrong
Its wrong
Because for some it can never be right, every decision shanahan makes is wrong.
Smith was not even on the 53 man roster out of camp. He is a stand up guy and a consistent punter but not a superior performer.
by dr WNC on Dec 17, 2010 8:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hunter Smith's age-probably doesn't support your argument
Because Smith replaced Bidwell who is 38
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by Skins Fan '77 on Dec 19, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Specialists/age
You know, there was one thing I was thinking when the season started and we released Ethan Albright and (at the time) Hunter Smith.
Shanahan may be grooming the specialists for the future. I honestly think he realized a long time ago this probably wasn’t a playoff team. He was thinking, I can get young guys involved and get them some experience this year so they can be better in the future (ie, what we want him to do with every position on the team). I think he thought that for Gano — let him be like David Akers, a guy who couldn’t make it on a playoff-contending team (at the time, the late-90’s Redskins) but who could perfect his game on a non-contender (at the time, the late-90’s Eagles) and be ready for the big time when the moment was right.
Of course, that notion was mitigated when we signed ancient Josh Bidwell to punt, but I do think that there is some merit to having a young kicker grow into his role and a young long snapper for years to come. Danny Smith and Shanahan seem to think they have enough talent to gamble on… I think we’re going to be stuck with both Gano and Sunberg as a result, for better or worse.
I would completely agree with you
And I would’ve been totally on board with a youth movement, fully embraced it even, if it was a whole team thing. The problem is, they got younger (and, in the long snappers case, worse) at the "specialist positions, but got significantly older (and probably worse) at the “skill” positions. Doesn’t add up.
If it had been up to me
I would have fired the entire special teams unit.
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
He wasn't doing a decent job punting and thats why he was cut.
The author points out that Smith has only mishandled 2 snaps in 12 years and that in spite of the Redskins being inept in so many other areas, they cut a high-character veteran who had been doing a decent job punting
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Didn't agree with the firing
It was pure scapegoating to fire Hunter at this point. Firing him , in my opinion, is letting the offense off the hook for a lack of points, and letting Gano off the hook for failing miserably at his job. At this point in the season, I want to see the semblance of some continuity in some area of this team. I think they should have left this kicking unit in place to work together and get more comfortable with each other.
And wtf is up with not targeting Cooley until the 4th quarter…























