Looks Like Someone Has a Sixpack of the Mondays
1. Well, it finally happened. The tailgate was going so good that we decided to to keep it going. I can't recall how many times over the years I sat in the stadium wishing I was back in the parking lot still enjoying the tailgate. Over the years, my reason for going at all has fluctuated between seeing live football and tailgating with friends that I pretty much only get to see 8-9 times per year (counting our preseason tailgate). Our decision to keep the tailgate going instead of picking it up and going inside was immediately affirmed by the updates we received (we switched between music and the broadcast). It should be noted that technically, your parking pass states that you are supposed to go inside the stadium and catch the game. So I thought that maybe at some point we would be asked to break things down and go inside. But the parking lot folks and the police who patrolled the lots were cool. Nobody hassled us. I guess they figured that we were in enough pain.
2. The lots were VERY empty yesterday.The stadium was VERY empty yesterday. While I contributed to one of those situations, and therefore bear some responsibility, I think it should be mentioned (again, since I can't be the first one who thought this) that indifference is at an all-time high in DC. I have been going to the parking lot for more than 10 years now. I have tailgated through weather TEN TIMES WORSE than yesterday in a lot FILLED with fans ready to get it on. Between the cold rain and the colder play of the team, people have drawn what looks to me to be an unmistakable line in the sand. I am not suggesting that fans won't come back if the product improves, but at this point, it is going to have improve FIRST. I don't see people shelling out the big pesos to come to FedEx much longer with the thought that "this could be the game they break out of it." Unless you're me and you find something spiritual about the tailgating experience, or if you happen to love paying double digit dollar figures for beer, I am not sure what there is for you anymore.
3. My first thought after the missed extra point (which I heard on the radio): "We should get one hell of a good second-round pick." Our first-round slot inched higher as well, but those high 2nd rounders are the true gems of the draft. They are a fraction of the cost of a 1st rounder and they should be starters on Day One. Your move Bruce Allen.
4. God I hope we don't trade that pick away.
5. Is Josh Freeman's hair awful or amazing? I can't decide.
6. I know it is all gloom and doom everywhere after yet another loss in heart-wrenching fashion. And I stand by my policy of not rooting for higher draft picks. I always root for the Redskins to win. Always. That will continue in 2010. But the fact is that these losses do net a positive effect on our 2011 roster. When we missed that game-tying try (or failed to even get the attempt off) the impact on our draft next season was undeniable. I have been screaming for Bruce Allen to draft two offensive linemen at the top of next year's draft. We should have no problem finding a stud O-lineman in the 1st round now. But I am excited about the prospect of having a high 2nd round pick to bring in that second lineman. I think back to last year when the Rams brought in their current starting Left Tackle, Rodger Saffold at the top of the 2nd round. I think back to last year when the 49ers used two mid-1st round picks to get Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati, both of whom are starting on their offensive line. The 49ers and Rams are teams that have had to re-tool their roster a good deal over the last few years, and their commitment to their offensive line at the top of the 1st and 2nd rounds in the last couple drafts is already paying dividends. I struggle to think of a better way to reinvigorate this fanbase than by bringing in TWO starting rookie offensive linemen in 2011.
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good decision
on the tailgate. I wonder if mentally this team is at the same place.
It pains me to disagree at all with the two OL thing...
But is there anything this team needs more than speed/skill on offense? How can we pass up a fast, big play-WR? The OL actually played reasonably well yesterday (helped when McCoy went out) but a lot of times this season they are giving up coverage sacks because none of our WR’s can run a goddamn route. I love Moss, but his game-changing speed has gone by the wayside. He’s a great receiver still, but we’d love him to be a 2…
I definitely believe in picking a lineman with one of those picks… but the draft is the best way to groom offensive talent at the skill positions (ask the Eagles, Pats, Saints, or yesterday’s Bucs), and going into next season, we might not have one viable starter at either RB or WR… especially if Moss leaves (which seems likely based on his post-game rant yesterday about how much he hates losing).
If we rely on 5th round receivers, Armstrong and Malcolm Kelly to be McNabb’s only targets, along with Torain and some alleged diamond-in-the-rough RB … we could have the old Hogs but the offense will still bite ass.
Not to mention...
how badly we need a nose tackle. Maybe the most important position on the 3-4 defense… yet we were unprepared. If we can get a monster guy early in the draft… man that would help stop the run. Okay, I’m done.
I would love it if we went for 2 OL
but I saw where someone at MTD had mocked us Stephen Paea in the 1st round (6’1 311# DT from Oregon St.) and it just seemed perfect. Him in the first and a center in the 2nd, and I’d call the draft a huge success.
Let's be honest...we have many, many holes to fill
I vote for two O-linemen mostly because I think we can get better faster once the O-line has been properly addressed. if we get a stud DT that works out, I will not complain.
by Ken Meringolo on Dec 13, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed but...
At what point do we draft a qb? I like McNabb, but dam I’m tired of seeing him skip the ball to Cooley….
My give a damn broke.
by davesomethin on Dec 13, 2010 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the offensive line has one good game against a pretty bad defense and now we're talking skill position again
and yes, you can have a good offense with mediocre WRs & RBs, as long as the OL is good
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
See...
Patriots, New England – 2001-08/11.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 13, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bad idea
I don’t think we can afford to draft a position player high. If I was the one doing the picking I’d probably use our round 1 on an NT and assuming a high round 2 on OL. Though I hear the argument for using them both on OL and you certainly wouldn’t hear me complain if that happened. Good lines improve the play of mediocre position players but good position players don’t do much to help shoddy lines.
Really it just shows you how idiotic Cerrato was. We completely whiffed on pretty much all of our draft picks. A team that recently drafted 3 2nd round pass catchers shouldn’t have a dearth of talent at receiver.
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 13, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
From Don Banks:
Suisham is 9 for 9 on FG and 9 for 9 on XP with the Steelers this year….
May the way of the hero lead to the Triforce
Just wait until the playoffs Steelers fans
I have no doubt at all that the true Suisham will show up.
by Ken Meringolo on Dec 13, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
praise jeebus
Our first-round slot inched higher as well, but those high 2nd rounders are the true gems of the draft. They are a fraction of the cost of a 1st rounder and they should be starters on Day One. Your move Bruce Allen.
ding ding ding
4. God I hope we don’t trade that pick away.
this was me, crying last year when we traded one away for McNabb
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Is there really a true stud lineman available?
There are guys who should be good, but worth a top 10-15? There are maybe four tackles worth even a first rounder, and maybe 1 interior lineman. Unfortunately, not a strong draft for oline players
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 13, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions
I want to thank Vinny Cerrato for sitting out the 2006-2009 drafts
which were perhaps the best for OL in decades
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
What they should do is never what they will do
They should draft either two O-linemen or a DT and a O-lineman with the first two picks. What they will end up doing is probably drafting a QB and then a lineman. But there are way too many holes to be filled. Sure the Skins need a receiver but they have flaws along both lines that need to be filled first. It can’t be fixed in one year. The fans realize this and that is why there is the feeling you were describing. That is how I feel. I wrote out Xmas cards during the game. I can’t get into the games anymore.
I have no problem with them drafting 2 OLinemen first
this year. We can augment our skills positions relatively easily with free agency. Larry Fitz it available and you cannot very often draft a WR out of college and expect them to produce (unless you are an Eagle). Can go either way with the NT spot in terms of draft vs FA.
The Egrets-Girls game last night showed me what speed and youth can accomplished if properly coached and drafted. The egrets look scary for the next 10 years.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
And the thing about the Eagles is that Reid bombed on WR draft picks for YEARS
it took him 10 years of drafting WRs to finally hit on some.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Dec 13, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I read over on mocking the draft
that the Eagles have spent 9 of their last 10 1st round picks on linemen.
no they haven't
it’s not even close: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/draft.htm
But they haven’t avoided drafting OL like the plague as VC did.
yeah, Fat Andy actually has a policy to make sure to draft a couple linemen every year
he’s gotten away from that lately and their OL has suffered b/c of it
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I would love O-line all day,
but in watching other teams’ skill positions all year I have been finding myself asking “Why can’t anybody on our team do that EVER?”
It seems like every game you watch, you’ll see a WR make a one-handed grab or just plain blow by a defender. Never a Redskin. Never. It’s getting sad watching this team chip away with dink-and-dunk plays (and yes I still remember the first half of the season with the huge bombs), and not ever seeing a really good play made on the ball. Just sayin’.
Brandon Lloyd made many one-handed catches...
that did not help the team win. This team is a block in the back and a couple of botched FGs away from being in the playoff discussion. Let’s get the fundamental shit right before we start talking about the rims on the ride.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 13, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
no offense
but this isn’t exactly a scientific way of evaluating things
It seems like every game you watch, you’ll see a WR make a one-handed grab or just plain blow by a defender. Never a Redskin
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Which you would expect given the clear declaration of my PhD status in applied research.
I was just observing that I can’t remember the last time I saw a play that awed me.
This is because one of 3 things happen
If the wide receiver makes a 1 handed grab, holding will be called. if the receiver blows by the defender the pass will be either overthrown or dropped. These are the redskins.
If this play were to happen then the skins will turn over the ball right after that. If they don’t turn the ball over, they will miss the field goal. If they make the field goal, the other team will immediately respond with points of their own, irregardless of the fact that they haven’t moved the ball all game, thus negating the field goal. so the Skins are better off not doing anything at all. and this why you never see them make these plays because that is how they lose games.
by hystericalmaniac on Dec 13, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
you seemed to be making a conclusion based on that obsevation
if I was wrong, I apologize
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Watch
We draft a QB with our number 1 pick. Then in preseason he gets smacked so hard on a play because of the OL and his career is done. That would be our luck.
or he is the holder and he Gano kicks him across the arm
ending his throwing days forever
by Ken Meringolo on Dec 13, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
I seem to remember that happening to Cincinnati
With their first rounders for like five years in a row, it was really weird.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Dec 13, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
About the empty stadium and parking lot
I heard on the telecast that the Redskins were claiming 67,000 in attendance and that the game was a sellout.
Every time I saw a shot of all three levels, the upper tier was completely vacant, the club seats were 60% vacant (as always), and the lower bowl only had a few empty seats here and there-question-
how in the hell does that add up to 67,000? The BS continues to roll out of the front office like water over a spillway
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
Every game is sold out.
That doesn’t always = attendance.
I can tell you that large portions of the Green lot (Section A) were wide open for parking. I got there 30 minutes before kickoff (after dropping my wife and her family off and then being directed all the way back out to 214 before making a U turn and coming back) and found a spot that butted right up against the purple lot (or whatever color is between green and platinum).
The rain was a big factor (as the wind made it really cold) and the concourse was full of people the entire game.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 13, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

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